
That Hoarder: Overcome Compulsive Hoarding
Hoarding disorder is stigmatised and people who hoard feel vast amounts of shame. This podcast began life as an audio diary, an anonymous outlet for somebody with this weird condition. That Hoarder speaks about her experiences living with compulsive hoarding, she interviews therapists, academics, researchers, children of hoarders, professional organisers and influencers, and she shares insight and tips for others with the problem. Listened to by people who hoard as well as those who love them and those who work with them, Overcome Compulsive Hoarding with That Hoarder aims to shatter the stigma, share the truth and speak openly and honestly to improve lives.
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Oct 13, 2023 • 30min
#113 Batching: the pathway to tangible results and motivation for hoarders
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Today's episode is all about batching and hoarding. Have you ever started a task only to get sidetracked and end up feeling disheartened and unproductive? Well, you're not alone. In this episode, I explore the concept of batching tasks together and how it can help you overcome the distractions and actually get things done. Join me as we delve into the world of productivity strategies, context switching, and the positive benefits of batching tasks. Get ready to declutter your mind and your home and find the encouragement you need to keep going. Stay tuned for some practical tips and insights on how to make batching work for you. Let's get started!
For people who easily get sidetracked and lose focus quickly
Using technique to focus on tasks efficiently
More focus leads to increased productivity and visible results
Batch tasks for efficiency and effectiveness
Batching tasks simplifies decision-making and improves efficiency
Batching tasks helps with transitions and procrastination
Create a schedule for regular batched tasks
Batch based on area, category, or activity
Feeling unaccomplished by distractions when trying to complete tasks
Focus on one task at a time to accomplish more and see noticeable results, providing motivation and encouragement
Allows for a fresh perspective on completed work and saving time and energy
Batching tasks simplifies decision-making, reduces analysis paralysis, and allows for forward planning, increasing productivity
Helps with transitions and initiating task
Beneficial for dehoarding, depending on progress. Establishing a schedule for regular batched tasks may be helpfu
Batch items based on area, category, or activity. Stay focused and redirect distractions by saying "No, I'm working on this for now."
Explanation of context switching and its impact on focus and productivity
More noticeable results at the end of a decluttering session
Boost in motivation and encouragement
Importance of visible progress in overcoming feelings of disheartenment
Comparison between concentrated progress in one area vs. scattered progress throughout the space
Difference between visible and hidden progress
Encouragement to apply batching techniques to stay focused and improve effectiveness in organising efforts
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Oct 6, 2023 • 1h 41min
#112 Executive function, executive dysfunction and hoarding with Dr Jan Eppingstall
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Today, Dr. Jan Eppingstall is here to shed light on the connection between executive function, executive dysfunction, and hoarding behaviour. We explore how executive function impacts our ability to organise and declutter our living spaces and uncover the challenges individuals face when it comes to decision-making, mental flexibility, and working memory. We'll also discuss strategies for improving executive function and overcoming the obstacles that hoarding behaviour presents.
Depression and health conditions can impair focus
Nervous shutdown and self-compassion during stress
Trick yourself into starting
Network atrophies when not engaged
Issue with sticking to tasks due to desire for novelty
Reducing food shops, using what's in cupboards
Procrastination hinders progress, but changing behaviours helps
Mental flexibility essential
Flexible thinking in shopping, problem solving, creativity
Executive dysfunction hinders organisation; hoarding makes it harder
Lack of experience in decision-making, cutting corners
Perspective and help are important when organising
Lack of space hinders planning
Executive functions affects losing things
Fear of loss worsens clutter
See-through boxes and labels
Mindset affects executive function, self-care is crucial
Many conditions cause brain fog and difficulty focusing
Understanding our executive functions helps us manage stress, improve awareness, and leverage strengths
Reflection can inform future behaviour
Nervous system shuts down, could be triggered by dissociation
Engaging in tasks helps people focus and enter a flow state
Perfectionism = rigid thinking, efforts towards being more flexible
Trying to organise a hoard is destined to fail
Can we reassure ourselves when we put things away?
Minimise visual distractions, motivation to improve surroundings
Take care of your mind, believe in yourself, and prioritie self-care for better executive function
Is difficulty organising due to executive function issues or the sheer quantity of items?
Difficulty getting rid of things once they are brought into the home due to the endowment effect
Suggestions for improving working memory through mental maths and storytelling memory games
Identifying triggers and strategies for preventing or dealing with shutdowns
Practicing self-compassion and reducing stress for better action-taking
Introduction of the task positive network (TPN) and flow state during tasks
Downsides of hyperfocus and its impact on cognitive attention
Weakening or atrophy of the TPN due to lack of exercise
How depression, autoimmune diseases, and long COVID can impact executive functioning
Unique perception and organization of belongings for individuals on the autism spectrum
Planning skills and lack of space as potential barriers
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Sep 29, 2023 • 43min
#111 Do you have spares of your spares? Do you have backups of your backups?
Explore the challenges of hoarding spares and backups, the fear of running out, and the art of letting go. Discover how keeping too many backups hinders finding things and wastes time and money. Learn the importance of allocating space, assessing necessity, and evaluating spare items. Understand how fear and risk limit our daily lives and the benefits of letting go. Reflect on the impact of secrets and shame on mental health. Gain insights into hoarding as a mental health issue and finding affordable therapy options.

Sep 22, 2023 • 1h 21min
#110 Do you own your stuff or does it own you? Freeing yourself and your home with Jasmine Sleigh, author of Being Owned
For the transcript for this episode, visit http://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk
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Jasmine Sleigh is a professional declutterer and has spent the past decade helping people to free up space. She focuses not only on physical belongings but also on the emotional and psychological aspects of decluttering. In today's episode, Jasmine likens her role to a dance, where she carefully navigates through uncertainties and potential triggers for her clients and stresses the importance of providing support and encouragement throughout the decluttering process.
We also discuss Jasmine's book, Being Owned: A Decade in Professional Decluttering, where she expands on the concepts discussed in this episode. Let's dive into the world of decluttering with Jasmine Sleigh.
Facilitating crafts and donating unused items.
Professional decluttering: a personal and people-centric approach
Handling belongings requires adaptability and improvisation
Sort out space, prioritise essentials, declutter
Understanding lives through belongings; an intimate job
Stuff has power, can be moved
Keep belongings accessible for ease of use
Helping people achieve their goals is the key
Positive actions in a cost of living crisis
Jasmine wanted to write a book about her experiences as a professional declutterer, focusing on the poignant stories of her clients and celebrating her achievements
She also felt frustrated by people's misconceptions about the job
The importance of using and sharing possessions, especially in the context of crafting and hobbies.
Jasmine can only go as far as clients are willing to let her
Training others has further shaped her understanding
Emotional attachments and recent purchases may require more distance
The power of belongings and the impact they can have
Ensuring easy access and a comfortable living environment for individuals is the main priority
Goal is to make people happier in their homes
Using resources for good and the availability of second-hand items in a crisis
Sorting through belongings and determining their importance in one's life narrative
The Unpredictability of the Job
Need for adaptability in dealing with unexpected situations
Describing the job as a "dance" due to uncertainties and triggers
Being present and flexible in the moment, avoiding over-preparation
Ineffectiveness of threats and negative consequences
The Process of Decluttering
Recognising that there is no quick fix or magic solution
Examples of finding forgotten items
Belongings becoming overwhelming and causing a burden
The ability to move and rearrange belongings to improve the situation
Different levels of difficulty in letting go of different types of items
Sorting out keepsakes at different life stages
Importance of having hobbies and engaging in creative activities
Creating a space to pursue hobbies and finish projects
Passing on unused items for sustainability and resource usage
Power dynamics surrounding objects
Giving individuals agency to make choices about possessions
Stories of reengagement and finding joy in personal belongings
Being attuned to people and focused on their well-being
Maturation and increased understanding after 10 years of working
Importance of the home as a sanctuary for wellbeing
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Sep 15, 2023 • 50min
#109 When you feel like giving up: dehoarding when it’s really hard
In today's episode, we're diving into the topic of when you feel like giving up. We'll be exploring the struggles, frustrations, and moments of doubt that can arise during the journey of overcoming compulsive hoarding. We'll uncover strategies to stay motivated and find the strength to keep going. Join me as we navigate the highs and lows of this challenging process and discover the power of perseverance.
So, grab a cup of tea and press play!
For the transcript for this episode, visit http://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk
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Reminder: Why was change important? Self-examine motivation for new things.
Stay present, take care of yourself, embrace failure.
Challenges and triumphs in a long journey and a big project.
Setting expectations based on order rather than timings is preferable for someone who finds it difficult to predict. Learn from experience and set realistic expectations. Consider the burden of letting others down if you communicate expectations to them.
Setting milestones helps celebrate small wins. Clearing the kitchen table can be a goal, leading to a sense of accomplishment and motivation. Having compassion for oneself is crucial.
A Facebook comment inspired compassion from children of hoarders, encouraging someone to not give up and be a hero for their kids.
Change up your habits, shift timing, remember why you started.
Remember why decluttering was important to you. Reflect on your motivation and discover new reasons, like enjoying extra space, treating yourself, or flexibility while working from home.
Taking breaks and finding inspiration from others helps prevent burnout during long-term projects. Look to successful people for motivation, even outside of your specific field.
Applying mindset to various areas of life, replacing unproductive habits, assessing and making adjustments, and the potential benefits of visualizing success.
Acknowledging slow progress is better than no progress
Feelings of frustration and impatience with the current situation
Be patient and work with circumstances
Mindful Approach to Avoid Feeling Overwhelmed
Being present in the moment instead of rushing to the next thing
Appreciating and being present in small tasks
Practicing mindfulness and avoiding constant engagement with everything
Importance of physical, mental, and emotional self-care
Maintaining motivation through scheduled and unscheduled breaks
Viewing failure as a learning experience, not a reason to give up
Importance of setting specific goals and milestones in decluttering
Celebrating accomplishments as motivation
Breaking tasks into manageable chunks to reduce overwhelm
Replacing rigidity with a more gentle and careful approach
Doing a bit, assessing, and making adjustments
Changing Environment and Finding Motivation
Changing environment or time of day to make decluttering feel new
Reflecting on initial motivation to stay motivated
Various sources of inspiration, including social media, podcasts, and books
Unrelated endeavours like trekking the Appalachian Mountains as a source of inspiration
Flexibility and Adaptability in Pursuit of Goals
Emphasizing the importance of flexibility and adaptability
Overcoming rigidity and perfectionism through adjustment and starting multiple times
Taking breaks and weekends off to prevent burnout
Failure as a Motivator and Opportunity
Understanding failure as a setback in life plans
Validating the feelings of discouragement and wanting to give up
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Sep 8, 2023 • 60min
#108 From indecisiveness to empowered choices: 27 practical tips for overcoming decision-making challenges in hoarding
The podcast explores decision-making challenges in hoarding disorder, discussing neuroscience research, categorization of possessions, and techniques to improve decision-making skills. It covers topics like fear of uncertainty, different decision-making styles, and the correlation between hoarding and impulsive decisions. The episode also provides practical tactics and strategies for overcoming decision-making challenges in hoarding, emphasizing the importance of simplifying choices and setting parameters. Additionally, it highlights the significance of self-compassion and making decisions based on the present moment. Tips for handling unexpected items during decluttering are also discussed.

Sep 1, 2023 • 1h 32min
#107 Things that look like hoarding but aren’t: ADHD, depression, autism, OCD, OCPD and more
Join Dr. Jan Eppingstall, a hoarding disorder specialist, on a podcast exploring the connection between hoarding and other conditions. They delve into OCD, OCPD, depression, autism, and ADHD, discussing overlapping symptoms and challenges. Learn about the causes of hoarding behaviors, the relationship between depression and hoarding, the overlap between autism and hoarding, and executive dysfunction in ADHD. Discover the importance of understanding underlying conditions and the challenges of diagnosing hoarding and co-occurring disorders.

Aug 25, 2023 • 1h 34min
#106 The Art of Letting Go: Navigating emotional clutter blocks with Tracy McCubbin
Tracy McCubbin, an expert in decluttering, talks about emotional attachment to belongings and provides practical advice. She challenges the notion that objects hold inherent meaning and shares anecdotes. The podcast explores clutter blocks, struggles with inherited items, difficulty in letting go, and the changing importance of sentimental objects. It also discusses the reluctance to let go of kitchen gadgets, sentimental items, and gifts. The value of working with a professional organizer, the importance of letting go of unnecessary possessions, and finding support through therapy are also touched upon.

Aug 18, 2023 • 58min
#105 Embracing the path of least resistance: finding ease in the journey when overcoming hoarding
In this podcast, they discuss the importance of setting up systems to make dehoarding easier and less resistant. They explore the concept of choosing realistic timings for successful decluttering. They also highlight how embracing the path of least resistance can be a gift when dealing with hoarding. The podcast covers strategies for overcoming obstacles and resistance, as well as organizing items in a hoarding situation. Overall, it offers insights and tips for making the decluttering process more manageable.

Aug 11, 2023 • 40min
#104 From sticky substances to mouldy messes: tackling the really gross bits when dehoarding
In this episode, we will be tackling the really gross and icky bits of dehoarding. It's not the most glamorous topic, but it's an essential part of the journey to a clutter-free life. We'll be discussing everything from dealing with unpleasant smells to handling sticky or disgusting substances that can accumulate over time. I've got some practical tips and strategies to help you navigate these challenges.
Dealing with gross things is important, but don't beat yourself up about it
Take responsibility, not blame, use it to motivate improvement
Presence of mould or goo in home is harmful physically, mentally, emotionally. Use gloves and a face mask to protect against anything gross or moldy. Use a grabber if needed
Adding essential oil drops to a face mask or using Vick's VapoRub improves smell.
Learn from experience, tackle issues one by one, prevent future problems: avoid bulk buying, store properly
The importance of addressing the "gross and icky" bits of dehoarding
Learning from unpleasant experiences and taking pride in overcoming them
Tackling issues or challenges one by one in a methodical manner
Taking proactive measures to prevent similar situations from arising again
Practical tips for dealing with sticky or gross substances
Addressing them individually until the whole house is clean
Being cautious with bulk food purchases and storing perishable items properly
Using bags for cleaning purposes is a logical use, not a waste
Spraying antibacterial spray after cleaning to ensure cleanliness
The importance of not avoiding unpleasant tasks
Facing the situation head-on because it won't go away on its own
Being realistic about what needs to be addressed
Quick resolution of tasks that have been avoided for a long time
The importance of ventilation to prevent mould and fungus spores from spreading
The need for Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) when dealing with harmful substances
Taking responsibility without blaming oneself
Using experiences as motivation to improve hoarding habits
Promoting a proactive attitude towards personal growth and improvement
Overcoming the fear and worries associated with gross or unpleasant tasks
Using gloves, face masks, and grabber tools to avoid touching or inhaling harmful substances
Prioritising health and wellbeing when removing gross or unidentifiable items
The consequences of failure to clean up grossness, including contamination and more waste
Accepting that some things may not be savable and may need to be discarded
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