
That Hoarder: Overcome Compulsive Hoarding
Hoarding disorder is stigmatised and people who hoard feel vast amounts of shame. This podcast began life as an audio diary, an anonymous outlet for somebody with this weird condition. That Hoarder speaks about her experiences living with compulsive hoarding, she interviews therapists, academics, researchers, children of hoarders, professional organisers and influencers, and she shares insight and tips for others with the problem. Listened to by people who hoard as well as those who love them and those who work with them, Overcome Compulsive Hoarding with That Hoarder aims to shatter the stigma, share the truth and speak openly and honestly to improve lives.
Latest episodes

Mar 1, 2024 • 1h 3min
#129 Is this the hill you want to die on? Psychological flexibility, rigidity and hoarding with Dr Jan Eppingstall
In this conversation, Dr. Jan Eppingstall, an expert in psychological flexibility and Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, dives into the nuances of hoarding behaviors. She explains how psychological rigidity can impact life satisfaction and offers practical insights into the six core processes that promote adaptability. Dr. Eppingstall emphasizes the importance of acceptance and mindfulness, encouraging listeners to challenge their rigid beliefs. By embracing curiosity and openness, individuals can foster personal growth and improve their relationships.

Feb 23, 2024 • 1h 17min
REMIX: Couples and hoarding: An interview with relationship therapist Laura Silverstein
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Feb 16, 2024 • 25min
#128 Time management and hoarding: How living in a hoard impacts your time, stress and productivity
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I take a look at the time-consuming nature of living in a hoard, including the impact of clutter on daily life. I cover the stress, procrastination, and decision fatigue that come with hoarding to shed light on the ways in which hoarding not only affects our living spaces but also consumes valuable time. Tune in for a candid conversation that challenges perceptions and offers a fresh perspective on the journey to overcome compulsive hoarding.
Questioning time for tidying in a cluttered life.
Gradual realisation about time consumption.
Tidying takes time, hoarding takes longer.
Organising the kitchen, decluttering, and categorising food items.
Knowing where things are saves time.
Reducing possessions saves time and effort.
Hoarding makes cleaning harder and time-consuming.
Rethink hoarding, liberate yourself, save future time.
American society invented the concept of human failure.
Organising saves time and reduces clutter.
Having too much stuff makes cleaning difficult and time-consuming.
The burden of hoarding and time wasted
Reframing thoughts to improve decluttering.
The concept of human failure was an American invention due to a capitalist society.
The misconception of tidy people spending all their time cleaning and tidying.
The realisation that living in hoarding is time-consuming due to the difficulties caused by clutter.
The Impact of Hoarding on Daily Life
The stress and time wasted in finding everyday items in a hoarded home.
Decision-making process and procrastination caused by overwhelming clutter.
Cleaning Challenges and Time Management
The additional time required for cleaning and maintenance in a hoarded home.
The difficulty of keeping a hoarded home clean compared to a neat and tidy home.
The liberating aspect of dehoarding by freeing up time for the future.
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Feb 9, 2024 • 1h 16min
#127 Overcoming overspending with Paige Pritchard, Money Coach
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Today, I am joined by the insightful Paige Pritchard, a money coach and the owner of the Overcoming Overspending community. Together, we dig into the complexities of overspending, addressing its emotional roots and psychological impact on individuals' lives. Paige offers invaluable insights into understanding the deeper motivations behind spending habits and emphasises the need to reclaim control and satisfaction in life. We discuss practical strategies, such as the "urge jar" to create distance from impulsive buying and find fulfilment without overspending. Join us as we explore the psychological effects of spending habits and discover empowering approaches to overcome overspending.
Overspending defined
Impact of shopping on time, relationships, confidence.
Men face stigma for impulse spending, too.
Striving for perfection
Products tied to identity and feelings
Resist urge to splurge
Anticipation brings more pleasure than actual events.
Recognise brain's response
Individual approach: abstainer vs moderator.
YNAB for budget transparency.
Budgeting software provides helpful transparency for planning.
Impact of shopping on time, relationships, and financial confidence.
Perfectionism and spending habits
Consumerism links products to identities and emotions
Delay impulse buying
Baseline awareness of brain's response to threats
No spend challenges
Personal spending behaviour
Signs of overspending
Financial implications
Time spent on shopping and acquiring
Impact on relationships
Financial self-confidence
Impact on environment and clutter
Understanding Motivations and Emotional Experiences Behind Spending
Aspirational spending
Consumer culture
Deeper motivations behind spending habits
Impact of spending habits on psychological wellbeing
Deeper reasons behind excessive spending
Regaining a sense of control
Escaping life
Managing Impulse Buying
Scarcity Spending
The "urge jar" as a tool
Form a new habit loop
Dopamine without spending money.
Fear of missing out
Managing Regret
Decision Making
Inevitability of emotions
Implications of extreme approaches.
Budgeting software
Managing annual expenses
Psychological perspective behind impulsive buying
Creating distance before making a purchase.
Impact of social media on contributing to overconsumption
Downplaying shopping addiction.
The seriousness of shopping addiction and its effect on people's lives, especially for women.
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Feb 2, 2024 • 1h 16min
#126 Insight and hoarding with Dr Jan Eppingstall: Unravelling anosognosia, clutter blindness, denial, psychological reactance and overvalued ideation
Dr Jan Eppingstall, an expert in hoarding and personalized treatment approaches, discusses insight in hoarding, levels of insight, factors influencing insight, and comorbidity. They also talk about overcoming clutter blindness, challenging thoughts, anosognosia, and the LEAP technique for support. The podcast explores the psychology behind hoarding, including denial, self-concept preservation, and shame, and emphasizes the importance of empathy, compassion, and personalized treatment approaches for overcoming compulsive hoarding.

Jan 26, 2024 • 41min
#125 Clearing hoarding hurdles: Anticipating and overcoming roadblocks in the dehoarding process
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By acknowledging potential roadblocks ahead, we can prepare emotionally and practically for upcoming challenges and even get more efficient when we’re dehoarding. I talk about the importance of being proactive, realistic, creative and adaptable when facing obstacles, while also seeking professional support when needed. I look at the need for planning, prioritising, and breaking down tasks into smaller chunks to overcome difficulties.
Anticipating obstacles improves efficiency and motivation.
Anticipating challenges leads to proactive decision-making.
Anticipate obstacles, reflect, and evaluate for success.
Stay open to possibilities, prepare for obstacles.
Planning can overcome mental obstacles for success.
Preparing for challenges in dehoarding process.
Anticipate challenges and plan preventive measures.
Allow yourself rest, plan ahead, ask for help.
Anticipating obstacles while working. Subconscious problem-solving.
Anticipating obstacles improves efficiency and reduces discouragement.
Anticipating challenges improves decision-making, reduces panic.
Being proactive is key.
Planning to deal with nostalgic stuff eventually, while focusing on current tasks and building up decluttering skills.
Anticipate and adapt to obstacles, focus on progress rather than completion. Reflection and objective evaluation are key.
Stay open to possibilities, prepare with needed supplies, seek advice on overcoming obstacles from others.
Address decision fatigue, burnout, and overwhelm to avoid stops and starts and make consistent progress.
Prepare for challenges, gain confidence from past experiences.
Anticipate and prevent burnout by pacing work, taking breaks.
Take days off even if it feels wrong. Plan ahead and seek help.
Tip for calming mind
Importance of Anticipating Obstacles
Benefits of problem-solving and emotional preparedness
Improving efficiency and momentum in the decluttering process
Assisting in planning, prioritising, and decision-making
Overcoming Challenges
Difficulty of anticipating obstacles, particularly for novices
Leveraging experience to anticipate and surmount obstacles
Adaptability, creativity, and flexibility in addressing anticipated obstacles
The value of trust, resourcefulness, and forward planning
Nostalgic items as potential distractions and triggers
The importance of realistic goal setting and objective evaluation
Anticipating Logistical Challenges
Ensuring necessary supplies are available
Learning from others' experiences with obstacles and their solutions
Importance of planning, breaking down tasks, and consistent progress
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Jan 19, 2024 • 32min
#124 How the little-known Hummingbird Method can help you to dehoard the areas you’ve been avoiding
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Today I delve into my experiences of overcoming avoidant behaviours when it comes to decluttering. I share how the Hummingbird Method has been instrumental in breaking down the fear and anxiety associated with tackling daunting hoarded areas.
Join me as I explore the power of gentle, gradual progress and the freedom that comes from challenging rigid beliefs and behaviours.
New method for managing tasks: hummingbird method.
Overcoming fears
Use the hummingbird method to beat procrastination.
Versatile method adaptable for different tasks and problems.
Challenging rigid beliefs to overcome hoarding habits.
Experiment, try new things, open new doors.
Gentle approach to tasks.
Change is necessary for progress.
Trying new things, starting small.
Understanding the Difficulties of Letting Go
The fear and difficulty involved in letting go of hoarded items
The sense of freedom and positive change that can result from letting go
Exploring hummingbirding
Overcoming inflexible behavior and thinking through the hummingbird method
The daunting piles were not as intimidating as imagined
Challenging limiting rules and stepping into avoided areas to confront tasks
Embracing a New Approach
Encouragement to experiment and try new ways of approaching difficult tasks
Starting with small steps, such as opening the cellar door
The passive nature of the "Hummingbird method" in breaking down avoidance barriers
Comparison to a kitten gradually expanding boundaries to become more comfortable
Applying the Hummingbird Method
Using the method to tackle fears and avoidance behaviours
Gradually familiarising yourself with daunting tasks or situations
Illustrative examples of avoiding tasks and gradually confronting them
Comparing the method to a child overcoming a fear of balloons at a party
The importance of flexibility and openness in challenging rigid beliefs and behaviours
One tool in a range of strategies
Recognising that there is no one-size-fits-all solution for overcoming hoarding and avoidance behaviours
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Jan 12, 2024 • 40min
#123 The emotional impact of emergency dehoarding: confronting paralysis, shame, terror, panic and exhaustion
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In today's episode, I delve into the emotional impact of emergency dehoarding. Over the last few weeks, I've faced the daunting task of decluttering my home in preparation for an impending electrical testing. I explore the rollercoaster of emotions, from terror and shame to motivation and determination, as I grapple with the challenges of addressing my hoarding situation. Join me as I uncover the journey of navigating through the paralysis and panic to making progress, all while acknowledging the emotional and physical toll of the process.
Stay tuned for practical insights, personal revelations, and a determined commitment to moving forward and not slipping back.
Overcoming fear and making progress step-by-step.
Planned time off and charity donation preparation.
Anticipated shame, ensuring access, fluctuating emotions.
Continual progress and proactive cleanup mindset.
Therapist support pivotal.
Overcoming challenges with tools and focus.
Cannot sustain that intensity, but need to keep moving.
Making rooms accessible.
Overcoming challenges one step at a time, managing panic and making progress amid fear.
Took time off, arranged charity collection.
Struggling with hoarding shame, balancing pragmatism and terror.
Focus on forward movement and addressing small tasks promptly.
Realising the value of decluttering and talking to therapist.
Facing challenges, equipped with tools and deadline.
Unable to sustain pace, seeking balance and progress.
Despite challenges, maintaining progress is beneficial in the long run.
The emotional impact of emergency dehoarding
Paralysis and panic when faced with the task of dehoarding the house
Overcoming initial resistance and taking gradual action to prepare for impending electrical testing
Managing emotions of terror, shame, and exhaustion during the process
Finding motivation in focusing on progress and benefits of a cleaner home
Coping with difficult tasks by reminding myself that it all had to be done
Creating a loose daily plan to guide efforts
Booking a charity collection for excess belongings providing practical assistance and motivation
Acknowledging the imperfect nature of the donation process but recognising its necessity
The role of support from a therapist and knowledge gained from a podcast about hoarding in managing the process
Developing a "toolbox" of knowledge and strategies through podcast, interviews, research, and listener stories
The benefits of having a deadline to stay focused and make progress in the hoarding situation
Reflecting on the improved hoarding situation and the emotional and physical toll of the process
Acknowledging the progress made and the determination to continue moving forward and not slip back
Making a conscious effort to avoid reverting to old habits, aiming to maintain balance and not let up on efforts to overcome compulsive hoarding
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Jan 5, 2024 • 21min
#122 From ’it’ll do’ to ’make do’
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After a year where my subverted phrase of the year was "it'll do", I talk about how I'm hoping to continue shedding perfectionism and learn to be more resourceful and adaptable. Tune in to hear all about it.
2023 phrase "it will do" calms my perfectionist anxiety
Striving for tidiness, resisting hoarding tendencies
Retiring items when its purpose has been fulfilled
Embracing "it'll do" mentality for 2023 led to less stress and overthinking, allowing for more focus on important things.
Hoarders struggle with using what they have, but I'm seeking to become more adaptable and resourceful.
Facing challenges in decluttering, balancing desire for tidiness and fear of letting go.
Desire to reduce waste, finding satisfaction in finishing products.
Examples of how "it'll do" helped me make decisions and reduce stress.
Introduction of the new phrase for 2024, "make do," which emphasises resourcefulness and adaptability.
The influence of financial awareness in choosing the new phrase.
Desire to engage more with possessions.
Exploring the contradiction in hoarders' tendencies to find multiple uses for items to justify keeping them but not being resourceful in other ways.
The impact of perfectionism on the desire for the "perfect" item and the challenge to accept what is adequate.
The potential risk of using "make do" as an excuse to keep everything and the need for balance.
The acknowledgement of challenges in embracing "make do" and the importance of trusting the process.
Finding pleasure in finishing and using up items as a result of a shift in perspective.
Personal examples of feeling a sense of achievement in using items fully.
Comparing the emotional attachment to well-used items versus unused items.
The aim of "make do" to encourage thoughtful use of possessions and sustainable engagement with them.
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Dec 29, 2023 • 32min
Remix: When you need to declutter urgently
Another really popular episode that a lot of you enjoyed. See you in 2024!
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