

Neurodiversity Podcast
Emily Kircher-Morris
The Neurodiversity Podcast talks with leaders in the fields of psychology, education, and beyond, about positively impacting neurodivergent people. Our goal is to reframe differences that were once considered disabilities or disorders, promote awareness of this unique population, and improve the lives of neurodivergent and high-ability people.
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Jul 21, 2025 • 36min
Christopher Willard on Mental Health, Education, and Farts (!?)
Emily Kircher-Morris talks with Dr. Christopher Willard, a clinical psychologist and author, about the complexities of life's major transitions. At this time of year, this is an especially-important conversation, as some students prepare for the shift to college life. They share their own experiences and provide advice on navigating the pressures of newfound independence, the importance of self-care, and the role of systemic support in easing major transitions. Yes, they also talk about farts, so this episode has something for everyone. TAKEAWAYS It's important to understand the mental health challenges that often arise during major life transitions. There's a role for social media in destigmatizing mental health issues, but it also spreads misinformation. Systemic support is essential in educational institutions, in order to better assist students, especially those from marginalized communities. It's important not to over-pathologize normal emotional experiences. There was a creative process behind Dr. Willard's children's book, "Feelings Are Like Farts," which uses humor to engage kids in understanding emotions. Let the courses in the Neurodiversity University help you be a better educator, parent, and/or clinician. Dr. Christopher Willard is a clinical psychologist, author, and consultant based in Massachusetts, with a global presence as a speaker in over 40 countries and two TEDx events. He is the author of 20 books on mental health and mindfulness, including Alphabreaths, Growing Up Mindful, Feelings Are Like Farts, and the upcoming College Mental Health 101 (2025). Dr. Willard's work has been featured in The New York Times, The Washington Post, CNN.com, and mindful.org. In addition to his clinical and writing work, he teaches at Harvard Medical School, where he continues to shape conversations around mindfulness, emotional well-being, and mental health in education and beyond. BACKGROUND READING Chris’s website, Instagram, Facebook, Feelings Are Like Farts The Neurodiversity Podcast is on Facebook, Instagram, BlueSky, and you’re invited to join our Facebook Group.

Jul 11, 2025 • 36min
Revisiting Girls and ADHD
Stephen Hinshaw, a distinguished professor at UC Berkeley, discusses the often-overlooked ways ADHD manifests in girls. He highlights the diagnostic challenges due to societal biases and the tendency for girls to mask their symptoms. The conversation dives into the stigma that complicates identification and support, particularly during and after the pandemic. Hinshaw also emphasizes the rise of non-suicidal self-injury among youth, advocating for comprehensive interventions that focus on emotional well-being and tailored approaches for girls with ADHD.

Jun 26, 2025 • 33min
Why Do We Still Debate Overexcitabilities?
Chris Wells, a writer and researcher devoted to neurodiversity and personal growth, joins the discussion. They delve into Kazimierz Dąbrowski's theory of positive disintegration and its connection to emotional intensity in neurodivergent individuals. The conversation highlights how over-excitability can shape personal experiences in education and mental health. They also emphasize the importance of community support and self-compassion for navigating emotional challenges, advocating for a more nuanced understanding of giftedness and neurodivergence.

Jun 18, 2025 • 33min
Love on the Spectrum's Kaelynn Partlow on Autism, Advocacy, and Acceptance
Kaelynn Partlow, an autism advocate known for her role in Love on the Spectrum, shares her powerful insights on autism acceptance. She challenges the superpower narrative, emphasizing the need for nuanced understanding and genuine inclusion. Kaelynn discusses the evolution of ABA therapy, advocating for precise language and more supportive methods of communication like declarative language. She also encourages parents of newly diagnosed children to seek community and balance the recognition of both strengths and challenges in their journeys.

Jun 12, 2025 • 41min
Understanding Yourself: A Process for Finding the Person Inside
Join Liz Angoff, a licensed educational psychologist and author of the Brain Building Books, as she dives into the world of neurodiversity. She shares insights on fostering self-understanding in neurodivergent children, emphasizing the importance of transparent communication and relatable metaphors. Liz discusses the impact of labels on children's identities, the need for collaborative assessments, and how the right practitioners can empower families. This enlightening conversation shifts the narrative from deficits to strengths, paving the way for acceptance and confidence.

Jun 5, 2025 • 37min
Beyond Buzzwords: Rethinking Our Neurodiversity Discourse
Emily Paige Ballou, an AEA stage manager and autistic advocate, dives deep into the nuances of neurodiversity. She discusses the inadequacies of current public discourse on autism, critiquing the oversimplified 'superpower' narrative. Emily emphasizes the importance of understanding both the strengths and challenges faced by neurodivergent individuals. She also raises concerns about the implications of labels like Pathological Demand Avoidance, calling for a more thoughtful approach to support and identity in the neurodiversity conversation.

May 29, 2025 • 32min
Dietary Difficulty: Fueling the Neurodivergent Brain
Emily Kircher-Morris welcomes registered dietician Jackie Silver, who specializes in nutrition for neurodivergent people. They discuss the unique challenges faced by the neurodiversity community, including sensory differences, interoception, and executive functioning barriers that complicate meal planning and nutrition. They also talk about practical strategies to support the neurodivergent people in your life with making good dietary choices. They identify and analyze disordered eating patterns, and discuss the significance of self-compassion in the journey towards better nutrition. TAKEAWAYS Many dietitians overlook the unique needs of neurodivergent clients. Meal planning can be overwhelming for those with executive dysfunction. It's important to work within people's "safe foods." Sensory sensitivities can greatly impact food choices and preferences. Interoception plays a crucial role in recognizing hunger and fullness cues. Mechanical eating can help those with suppressed appetites due to medication. Small, manageable changes can lead to significant improvements in nutrition. Disordered eating patterns are common among neurodivergent people, especially with ADHD. The window will open soon to join the Educator Hub! If you're a teacher, administrator, school counselor, or parent of a neurodivergent student, this community is where you can share, ask questions, and find training that will help you along your journey. Please come join us. Jackie Silver is a NYC-based Registered Dietitian and founder of Jackie Silver Nutrition, a virtual private practice specializing in supporting neurodivergent kids, teens, and adults with ADHD, ASD and IDD. Her practice is neurodiversity-affirming, nonjudgmental, and weight-inclusive. he holds a Master of Health Science in Nutrition Communication from Toronto Metropolitan University and has additional training in mindful eating and sensory-based feeding therapy. Jackie works with clients across New York, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Ontario, and beyond, offering support with meal planning, selective eating, digestive health, chronic disease management, and more. In her free time, Jackie enjoys rock climbing, yoga, Pilates, swimming, travel, museums, and spending time with family and friends. BACKGROUND READING Jackie’s website, Instagram, Free Grab & Go Foods list, Jackie’s meal prep course, Jackie’s consultation

May 22, 2025 • 36min
Time Blindness: What To Do When Now Isn't Now
Emily Kircher-Morris welcomes Dr. Ari Tuckman for a conversation about time blindness, the complexities of ADHD, and the stigma surrounding the disorder. They discuss why ADHD is more about the struggle to convert attention into action than a lack of knowledge. They talk about how and why ADHD affects time perception and performance under pressure. If you're prone to procrastination, anxiety, and time management issues, this is an episode you need to hear. TAKEAWAYS ADHD is often misunderstood as a lack of attention rather than a difficulty in converting attention into action. Time perception in ADHD can be distorted, leading to challenges in planning and prioritizing tasks. Individuals with ADHD may perform better under pressure, but this can lead to anxiety and self-doubt. The internalized stigma can cause ADHD individuals to feel like frauds despite their successes. Social dynamics play a significant role in how ADHD behaviors are perceived by others. The pressure to conform to neurotypical standards can hinder the ability to find effective personal strategies. ADHD can contribute to anxiety, not just in the individual but also in those around them. Procrastination can also cause anxiety for others around you. Time management involves multiple components, including attention management. Physical clocks can help with time perception. Alarms are reminders, not motivators. Gamifying tasks can reduce procrastination. The window will open soon to join the Educator Hub! If you're a teacher, administrator, school counselor, or parent of a neurodivergent student, this community is where you can share, ask questions, and find training that will help you along your journey. Please come join us. Ari Tuckman, PsyD, MBA, is a psychologist, author, and recognized expert in adult ADHD with over two decades of experience in the field. He has written five books on ADHD and is a sought-after international speaker, known for his engaging presentations that combine insight, humor, and practical strategies to help individuals better understand and manage ADHD. In addition to his clinical work, Dr. Tuckman has been a strong advocate for increasing awareness and access to effective ADHD treatment. He regularly contributes to professional publications, podcasts, and conferences, providing guidance for both individuals with ADHD and the professionals who support them. As a leading voice in the field, he is dedicated to empowering neurodivergent individuals to thrive in both personal and professional settings. BACKGROUND READING The ADHD Productivity Manual on Amazon, Ari Tuckman’s website and books

May 14, 2025 • 39min
Flashback: Autism + ADHD = AuDHD
A term has been gaining traction over the last few years: AuDHD. Today, Emily Kircher-Morris is talking with Mattia Maurée, a neurodivergent individual who is both ADHD and autistic. They talk about how the two diagnoses blend together, one side desiring routine and sameness, while the other seeks novelty and change. They also discuss the challenges of receiving accurate diagnoses, the impact of stigma on neurodivergent individuals, how career pathways are affected, Mattia’s personal experiences of being misunderstood and judged, and the importance of community. The conversation covers many other subjects as well, and is also part of an earlier episode. TAKEAWAYS ADHD and autism can coexist in individuals, with one part of them desiring routine and sameness while the other seeks novelty and change. Receiving accurate diagnoses for neurodivergent individuals can be challenging, as the symptoms of different conditions can overlap and mask each other. Stigma and misunderstandings surrounding neurodivergent individuals are pervasive and can lead to discrimination and mistreatment. Being twice exceptional, with both ADHD and autism, can result in unique challenges and experiences, including being misunderstood and judged by others. When Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) is a factor, it can lead to difficulties in regulating the nervous system, and can have a significant impact on daily life. Finding a career that aligns with one's interests and strengths is crucial for neurodivergent individuals. Community support and understanding are essential for neurodivergent individuals to thrive and feel deeply understood. Check out the Neurodiversity University, where you'll find a library of courses (many great for CE credits), and communities where like-minded people learn and share ideas. Mattia Maurée is an AuDHD coach and host of the AuDHD Flourishing Podcast. Creative outlets in music and the arts became their refuge through a childhood full of unpredictability. Confronting their trauma sparked an interest in the topic and Mattia led them to their autism diagnosis in their 30’s, as well as finding somatic neurodivergent-friendly methods of working through their depression and anxiety. They now share their experiences to give hope to queer, trans, and neurodivergent youth and young adults through their coaching, and embrace the philosophy of “feel better first.” BACKGROUND READING AuDHD Flourishing website, AuDHD Flourishing podcast, TikTok The Neurodiversity Podcast is on Facebook, Instagram, BlueSky, and you’re invited to join our Facebook Group. For more information go to www.NeurodiversityPodcast.com

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May 8, 2025 • 36min
Is It PDA? Demand Avoidance in the Context of Autism
On episode 270, Emily Kircher-Morris welcomes Dr. Taylor Day, a licensed psychologist who specializes in neuro-affirming care for autistic children and their families. They discuss the complexities of Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) in children, and the importance of understanding neurodiversity and the need for family-centered care. They cover the challenges of identifying PDA, the risks of misdiagnosis, and the necessity of adapting parenting and therapeutic strategies to better support children with this profile. They also validate parents' experiences and intuition, and endorse a holistic approach to autism care that considers the needs of the entire family. TAKEAWAYS PDA is a conceptualization rather than a formal diagnosis. Validating lived experiences is crucial for families. Research on PDA is progressing slowly. Parents often face dismissal in the medical community. PDA behaviors may resemble defiance or oppositionality. Affirming approaches can prevent family burnout. Quality of services is more important than quantity. Parents are the experts on their children. Therapy can take many forms beyond traditional methods. The Neurodiversity University Therapist Hub registration window is closed for now, but will open again soon, and you can get on the list to be notified! If you're a mental health professional we want you in our group of like-minded peers, in a vibrant community where learning and sharing are front and center. Meantime, we'll be opening our Educator Hub to new members in the next couple of weeks! If you're an educator or have a student in your life, we would love for you to be part of it. We can notify you as soon as it opens, so get on the list here! Dr. Taylor Day is a licensed psychologist specializing in neuro-affirming care for autistic children and their families, with a focus on early diagnosis and intervention. She is the CEO and founder of Dr. Tay Concierge Clinical Care, where she developed The Whole Family Approach, an evidence-informed model designed to address gaps in autism care by supporting both children and their families. Dr. Day holds a Ph.D. in clinical psychology and is dedicated to advancing early childhood autism support through personalized, family-centered interventions. Her passion for child psychology and autism advocacy is deeply rooted in her personal experience growing up with a brother diagnosed at 23 months of age. BACKGROUND READING Dr Day’s website, Instagram, EVOLVE with Dr. Tay: The Podcast of Parents of Autistic Kids (Spotify)