

Neurodiversity Podcast
Emily Kircher-Morris
The Neurodiversity Podcast talks with leaders in the fields of psychology, education, and beyond, about positively impacting neurodivergent people. Our goal is to reframe differences that were once considered disabilities or disorders, promote awareness of this unique population, and improve the lives of neurodivergent and high-ability people.
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Aug 15, 2025 • 38min
The Self-Regulation Revolution: Mastering Executive Function
Emily Kircher-Morris sits down with Sarah Kesty, an executive function coach and host of the Executive Function podcast, to talk about challenges and strategies for supporting neurodivergent individuals with executive function and emotional regulation. They discuss offloading working memory, and ideas to help create an executive function-friendly environment at home and in the classroom. Sarah shares her three-phase coaching model and they talk about the importance of self-regulation in both academic and home settings. You'll learn how these approaches can transform the learning experience for students, and provide hope for educators and parents alike. TAKEAWAYS Emotional regulation is key for learning. Offload working memory for better focus. Create executive function-friendly environments. Self-regulation benefits all students. Coaching involves exploration and strategy. Normalize experimentation for effective learning. Register and attend TEFOS live, or check out recordings of the event! Join us for our free event, Creating Neurodiversity-Affirming Schools, a learning and continuing education opportunity. The event will feature a presentation by Emily Kircher-Morris and Amanda Morin, and you'll hear from a panel of experts about the future of education. Register now! This episode is brought to you by the Gifted Learning Lab. Check out the signature program by Dr. Danika Maddocks, Support Your Intense Gifted/2e Kid. Sarah Kesty is an executive function, autism, and ADHD coach dedicated to helping neurodivergent individuals develop practical strategies to thrive. She is the host of The Executive Function Podcast and the creator of Brain Tools School, a coaching and learning program that supports high schoolers, college students, adults, and fellow coaches in strengthening executive function skills for everyday life. A four-time Teacher of the Year, Sarah is known for translating research into actionable strategies. She writes and presents for international audiences and outlets such as Psychology Today, KQED, and Edutopia. Her upcoming book for educators, Growing Executive Function, will be published by Solution Tree in August 2025. Based in San Diego, Sarah is also a local trail guide and passionate gardener, committed to building a more brain-friendly and inclusive world. BACKGROUND READING Sarah on Psychology Today, Instagram, YouTube, Facebook, Edutopia, The Executive Function podcast on Spotify & Apple Podcasts The Neurodiversity Podcast is on Facebook, Instagram, BlueSky, and you’re invited to join our Facebook Group.

Aug 7, 2025 • 40min
Surfing Waves of Emotion Through Emotional Regulation
On episode 282, Emily Kircher-Morris welcomes occupational therapist and author Tracey DeMaria, to explore emotional regulation through a metaphor of "surfing the waves." They talk about how the analogy helps both children and adults visualize and manage their emotions, and how that visualization helps the process feel more like a skill to be honed rather than a clinical task. They discuss the importance of language in framing behaviors, the impact of school environments on neurodivergent children, and the integration of sensory and cognitive tools to support emotional well-being. TAKEAWAYS "Surfing the waves" aids emotional regulation. Language shapes perception of behaviors. School environments especially impact neurodivergent children. Blend sensory and cognitive tools for balance. Self-awareness is key to regulation. Mindfulness can be adapted for kids. Special interests can aid emotional control. Join us for our free event, Creating Neurodiversity-Affirming Schools, a learning and continuing education opportunity. The event will feature a presentation by Emily Kircher-Morris and Amanda Morin, and you'll hear from a panel of experts about the future of education. Register now! Tracey DeMaria, OTD, OTR/L, is an experienced occupational therapist specializing in regulation skills, sensory integration, and mental health. With over 20 years in the field, she currently serves as an occupational therapist in the Phillipsburg School District and as an adjunct professor in the occupational therapy master’s program at Moravian University. Tracey holds a clinical doctorate in occupational therapy from Misericordia University and a bachelor’s degree from Colorado State University. Proudly neurodiverse, she is a dedicated advocate for disability rights and mental health, committed to empowering individuals of all ages and neurotypes through the development of regulation skills. BACKGROUND READING Tracey’s website, How To Surf the Waves, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook The Neurodiversity Podcast is on Facebook, Instagram, BlueSky, and you’re invited to join our Facebook Group.

Jul 31, 2025 • 40min
What Behavior is Really Telling Us
In this episode, Emily Kircher-Morris sits down with Joshua Stamper, author of The Language of Behavior, to explore decoding and rethinking behavior. Joshua describes his personal journey from a reluctant student to an inspiring educator, and how early experiences shaped his philosophy on supporting students. The conversation covers key topics such as trauma-informed practices, the importance of building relationships in education, and Joshua's innovative framework for understanding behavior through environment, root causes, and intentional response. They also touch on burnout and the need for self-care, and leave you with practical strategies for creating a supportive learning environment. TAKEAWAYS Behavior is communication. Connection before correction. Adopt trauma-informed practices. Prioritize educator self-care. Empathize with student experience. Join us for our free event, Creating Neurodiversity-Affirming Schools, a learning and continuing education opportunity. The event will feature a presentation by Emily Kircher-Morris and Amanda Morin, and you'll hear from a panel of experts about the future of education. Register now! Joshua Stamper is an educator, speaker, and author with a deep commitment to fostering growth and leadership in education. As the creator of Aspire to Lead and a former middle school administrator with nine years of experience, he draws on both his professional background and personal journey as a struggling student to advocate for supportive, student-centered learning environments. Joshua is the author of The Language of Behavior, a practical guide that equips educators with trauma-responsive strategies and alternative behavior practices to enhance student success. Through his writing, speaking, and leadership work, he empowers education professionals to lead with empathy, embrace innovation, and drive meaningful change in their schools and communities. BACKGROUND READING Josh’s website, Twitter/X, Instagram, LinkedIn, BlueSky, Aspire to Lead, The Language of Behavior The Neurodiversity Podcast is on Facebook, Instagram, BlueSky, and you’re invited to join our Facebook Group.

Jul 24, 2025 • 42min
Playing May Be the Most Important Work We Do
On today's episode, Emily Kircher-Morris talks about the transformative power of play with Georgie Wisen-Vincent, a nationally recognized expert in play therapy. Emily and Georgie explore how play supports emotional resilience, not just in young children, but across all ages. They talk about the importance of adapting play for neurodivergent children, and the role of play in fostering emotional regulation and executive function. They also discuss ways to engage with children through play, and provide suggestions on how to create meaningful connections that nurture their development. TAKEAWAYS Play is essential for emotional resilience. Play therapy has a role in neurodevelopment. Adapt play for neurodivergent children. Play has an impact on emotional regulation and executive function. You should establish a balance between screen time and real-world play. Play should remain present in educational settings. Let the courses in the Neurodiversity University help you be a better educator, parent, and/or clinician. Georgie Wisen-Vincent, LMFT, RPT-S, ECMHS is a nationally recognized play therapy expert and co-author of The Way of Play (Penguin Random House, January 2025) with Dr. Tina Payne Bryson. She is the Founder and Director of The Play Strong Institute, a center focused on the study and practice of play therapy through a neurodevelopmental lens, and also practices as a child, adolescent, and family psychotherapist at The Center for Connection in Southern California. Georgie is a graduate professor at Santa Clara University and an active researcher in childhood play, attachment science, and mental health. She studied play therapy at the University of Roehampton in London and is currently completing her doctoral degree. BACKGROUND READING Instagram, Facebook, Play Strong Institute The Neurodiversity Podcast is on Facebook, Instagram, BlueSky, and you’re invited to join our Facebook Group.

Jul 21, 2025 • 36min
Christopher Willard on Mental Health, Education, and Farts (!?)
Emily Kircher-Morris talks with Dr. Christopher Willard, a clinical psychologist and author, about the complexities of life's major transitions. At this time of year, this is an especially-important conversation, as some students prepare for the shift to college life. They share their own experiences and provide advice on navigating the pressures of newfound independence, the importance of self-care, and the role of systemic support in easing major transitions. Yes, they also talk about farts, so this episode has something for everyone. TAKEAWAYS It's important to understand the mental health challenges that often arise during major life transitions. There's a role for social media in destigmatizing mental health issues, but it also spreads misinformation. Systemic support is essential in educational institutions, in order to better assist students, especially those from marginalized communities. It's important not to over-pathologize normal emotional experiences. There was a creative process behind Dr. Willard's children's book, "Feelings Are Like Farts," which uses humor to engage kids in understanding emotions. Let the courses in the Neurodiversity University help you be a better educator, parent, and/or clinician. Dr. Christopher Willard is a clinical psychologist, author, and consultant based in Massachusetts, with a global presence as a speaker in over 40 countries and two TEDx events. He is the author of 20 books on mental health and mindfulness, including Alphabreaths, Growing Up Mindful, Feelings Are Like Farts, and the upcoming College Mental Health 101 (2025). Dr. Willard's work has been featured in The New York Times, The Washington Post, CNN.com, and mindful.org. In addition to his clinical and writing work, he teaches at Harvard Medical School, where he continues to shape conversations around mindfulness, emotional well-being, and mental health in education and beyond. BACKGROUND READING Chris’s website, Instagram, Facebook, Feelings Are Like Farts The Neurodiversity Podcast is on Facebook, Instagram, BlueSky, and you’re invited to join our Facebook Group.

Jul 11, 2025 • 36min
Revisiting Girls and ADHD
Stephen Hinshaw, a distinguished professor at UC Berkeley, discusses the often-overlooked ways ADHD manifests in girls. He highlights the diagnostic challenges due to societal biases and the tendency for girls to mask their symptoms. The conversation dives into the stigma that complicates identification and support, particularly during and after the pandemic. Hinshaw also emphasizes the rise of non-suicidal self-injury among youth, advocating for comprehensive interventions that focus on emotional well-being and tailored approaches for girls with ADHD.

Jun 26, 2025 • 33min
Why Do We Still Debate Overexcitabilities?
Chris Wells, a writer and researcher devoted to neurodiversity and personal growth, joins the discussion. They delve into Kazimierz Dąbrowski's theory of positive disintegration and its connection to emotional intensity in neurodivergent individuals. The conversation highlights how over-excitability can shape personal experiences in education and mental health. They also emphasize the importance of community support and self-compassion for navigating emotional challenges, advocating for a more nuanced understanding of giftedness and neurodivergence.

Jun 18, 2025 • 33min
Love on the Spectrum's Kaelynn Partlow on Autism, Advocacy, and Acceptance
Kaelynn Partlow, an autism advocate known for her role in Love on the Spectrum, shares her powerful insights on autism acceptance. She challenges the superpower narrative, emphasizing the need for nuanced understanding and genuine inclusion. Kaelynn discusses the evolution of ABA therapy, advocating for precise language and more supportive methods of communication like declarative language. She also encourages parents of newly diagnosed children to seek community and balance the recognition of both strengths and challenges in their journeys.

Jun 12, 2025 • 41min
Understanding Yourself: A Process for Finding the Person Inside
Join Liz Angoff, a licensed educational psychologist and author of the Brain Building Books, as she dives into the world of neurodiversity. She shares insights on fostering self-understanding in neurodivergent children, emphasizing the importance of transparent communication and relatable metaphors. Liz discusses the impact of labels on children's identities, the need for collaborative assessments, and how the right practitioners can empower families. This enlightening conversation shifts the narrative from deficits to strengths, paving the way for acceptance and confidence.

Jun 5, 2025 • 37min
Beyond Buzzwords: Rethinking Our Neurodiversity Discourse
Emily Paige Ballou, an AEA stage manager and autistic advocate, dives deep into the nuances of neurodiversity. She discusses the inadequacies of current public discourse on autism, critiquing the oversimplified 'superpower' narrative. Emily emphasizes the importance of understanding both the strengths and challenges faced by neurodivergent individuals. She also raises concerns about the implications of labels like Pathological Demand Avoidance, calling for a more thoughtful approach to support and identity in the neurodiversity conversation.