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ESG Insider: A podcast from S&P Global

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May 28, 2021 • 26min

Carrot and stick: Why companies like Chipotle are linking executive pay to ESG targets

What do Chipotle, an air conditioning company and one of the world’s largest activist investors have in common? They’re all tackling the challenge of how to incentivize executives to advance corporate sustainability goals. In this episode, we talk with Chipotle Head of Sustainability Caitlin Leibert about the company's plan to tie 10% of annual executive incentive bonuses to sustainability goals. Linking executive compensation to ESG goals is a way for companies to "put your money where your mouth is,” Caitlin says. But European activist investor Cevian Capital believes that many companies could make their ESG-linked incentives more robust and transparent, says Harlan Zimmerman, a senior partner at the firm. We also hear from Marcia Avedon, Trane Technologies’ Chief Human Resources, Marketing and Communications Officer, about how the air conditioner and heating company is looking to incentivize all its employees to act on its sustainability targets. "We are weaving sustainability...into everything we do as a company," Marcia says. Photo credit: Getty Images
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May 21, 2021 • 21min

How companies are calculating financial benefits of intangible ESG programs

As more companies look to adopt ESG-friendly strategies, they sometimes run up against the challenge of finding the financial justification for doing so. Furthermore, opponents of ESG initiatives often question whether such efforts cost companies more money than it brings them. This is the heart of the debate over ESG – are companies sacrificing financial returns as they move to become more socially and environmentally responsible? A number of studies have found that companies with strong ESG practices tend to perform better. But it can be difficult to measure the financial impact of less tangible factors. For example, what’s the payoff of cutting your company’s emissions? What is the financial impact of expanding your paid sick leave? In this episode, we'll explore a methodology developed by the Center for Sustainable Business at the New York University’s Stern School of Business that helps companies put a price on things like employee retention, avoided costs, and improved insurance rates. The methodology is called the Return on Sustainable Investment, or ROSI. From the center's director Tensie Whelan, we'll hear how the methodology has helped companies understand the financial benefits of their ESG programs. And we'll talk with Kate Chisholm, the Chief Sustainability Officer at Capital Power, a publicly-traded independent power producer in Canada, that used the ROSI tool to assess its decarbonization strategy and decided to retire its coal-fired power plant fleet in 2023 as a result. ROSI "helps you put numbers where intuition was the best thing you could do before," Kate said. Photo credit: Getty Images
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May 14, 2021 • 19min

New EU sustainable finance rules a ‘game-changer' for private equity

The European Union’s new Sustainable Finance Disclosure Regulation, or SFDR, is expected to drastically change the scope of sustainable investing by providing greater transparency and increasing disclosure. And this is a particularly big deal for the private equity world, which has historically relied on self-regulation. Broadly speaking, private equity refers to investments in or ownership of private companies, and in this episode, we ask how SFDR is impacting the private equity industry. We hear from Sophie Flak, managing partner in charge of ESG at French investment firm Eurazeo. Sophie was a member of an EU expert group that put in place some recommendations on SFDR. She says that the industry has a long way to go on ESG, and this new regulation will help drive progress and transparency. "But the road is a bumpy one,” she adds. We also talk to Andy Pitts-Tucker, who works closely with private equity firms in his role as managing director of APEX ESG Ratings. He expects that SFDR will require “a significant leap” for a majority of the industry. “ESG is quite new to a lot of people in the private market world,” Andy says. SFDR comes from the EU, but has a reach that extends far beyond Europe. Andy says international regulators are watching closely and learning. “It’s a game-changer,” he tells us. “What we’re certainly going to see is regulators around the globe adopting their own policies.” Photo credit: Getty Images
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May 7, 2021 • 21min

How 4 of the world's biggest companies are turning net zero goals into action

We’ve seen an explosion of companies setting net zero targets in 2021. That prompted us to ask: What comes next? After you set a decarbonization goal, how do you go about meeting it and measuring progress? To answer these questions, we talked to some of the world’s largest companies — Walmart, AT&T, Duke Energy and State Street Global Advisors — in a recent S&P Global webinar. This episode of the podcast highlights some of the key takeaways we heard from those executives. Walmart Chief Sustainability Officer Kathleen McLaughlin tells us how the retail giant is working with thousands of suppliers to achieve zero emissions by 2040. AT&T Chief Sustainability Officer Charlene Lake talks about how the telecommunications giant is working up and down its supply chain to pursue its science-based target of reducing emissions. Duke Energy Chief Sustainability Officer Katherine Neebe explains how the utility, which has most of its emissions occur in the production of electric generation, is seeking the most reliable and affordable path to net zero. And we hear from Carlo Funk, the lead ESG Investment Strategist at State Street Global Advisors covering Europe, the Middle East and Africa regions. Carlo unpacks how the asset manager is engaging with companies to lower its portfolio emissions. Photo credit: Getty Images
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Apr 30, 2021 • 16min

How some companies cut corners to achieve renewable energy targets

Hundreds of companies around the world have made ambitious promises to purchase only wind, solar and other types of clean electricity to power their operations. But many of these corporations aren’t buying actual physical electricity from renewable sources. Instead, they are snapping up incredibly cheap instruments known as unbundled renewable energy certificates, or RECs, which allows them to make “100% renewable power” claims while continuing to emit greenhouse gases as before. The practice is also problematic because it does little to encourage the establishment of new wind or solar farms —not a good outcome in the broader fight against climate change.   In this episode, we talk to Max Scher, head of clean energy and carbon programs at software giant Salesforce, which used to buy RECs but no longer does so.   “My general fear here is that if we are hyper-focused on… purchasing RECs, we’re going to miss the hard work, the important work, on reducing energy consumption, thinking about siting of facilities on cleaner grids” and other real-world steps to lower the carbon footprint of corporations,” Max tells us.  We also hear from an analyst at Lazard Asset Management, and from Matthew Brander, a carbon accounting expert at the University of Edinburgh who cautions that buying RECS instead of actual renewable power can be “a very low-cost easy way of making it appear to have reduced emissions.” Photo credit: Getty images
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Apr 23, 2021 • 25min

Banks turning green in pursuit of net zero

As countries across the world set out plans to bring their emissions to net zero by 2050, financial institutions are increasingly setting their own carbon neutrality goals. Limiting global warming to 2°C by 2050 will require $3 trillion annually in investment, according to an estimate by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, and banks will play an integral part in channeling that financing. To find out what banks are doing to get to their lending portfolios to net zero, we talk to Amit Puri, global head of environmental and social risk management at U.K.-based Standard Chartered, about the bank’s net zero ambitions. “We are really trying to figure out on a sector-by-sector basis, on a geography basis, where are we today, where is the baseline, and therefore what do we need to do to reduce emissions in line with the commitment that we have made?” Amit says. We also hear from executives at Natixis about a tool the French investment bank created to make its lending portfolio more sustainable. That approach “should help us to drive the entire portfolio of the bank toward a net zero balance sheet,” says Karen Degouve, head of sustainable business development at Natixis.   To learn more about our ESG Thought Leadership, visit the new S&P Global Sustainable1 website.   Photo credit: Getty Images
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Apr 20, 2021 • 24min

Big Oil's 'bumpy ride' to net-zero

Major oil and gas companies are beginning to set aggressive decarbonization targets, but the path ahead for them is riddled with challenges. The latest episode of S&P Global's ESG Insider podcast takes a deep dive into what net-zero goals mean for those energy companies.   We'll hear from Ed Daniels, an executive vice president and the head of strategy at Royal Dutch Shell plc, about the company's plan for achieving net zero across its direct and indirect emissions. We also talk with Natasha Landell-Mills, the head of stewardship at Sarasin & Partners, a U.K.-based asset manager with more than £15 billion under management, about why the firm recently divested from Shell after years of engagement. And Simon Redmond, a senior director at S&P Global Ratings, explains the rating agency's decision to bump down the credit ratings of some companies in the oil sector, including Shell.   Photo source: Getty Images
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Apr 9, 2021 • 35min

Shareholder proposals to watch this proxy season: climate, racial equity, stakeholder capitalism

Heading into the 2021 proxy season, investors are increasingly focused on equity issues, climate change, and the broader role of companies in society. Shareholders filed at least 435 ESG-related shareholder proposals for the 2021 proxy season, according to the respected Proxy Preview report.   In this episode, we explore three emerging shareholder proposals.   One asks companies to give investors a “Say on climate,” a variation on “Say on pay” resolutions that gained traction after the 2008 financial crisis. To learn more, we talk with Chris Hohn, a British billionaire hedge fund manager and philanthropist behind the “Say on climate” resolution.   We also hear from Tejal Patel, corporate governance director at CtW Investment Group, which is behind a resolution asking companies to perform racial equity audits.   "Even the most well-meaning board might be missing certain ways that their policies affect communities of color," Tejal says. Financial institutions, in particular, need to look for those blind spots "because they play such a critical role in our economy and in our society."   And we look at a proposal that asks companies to become "public benefit corporations" to further advance stakeholder capitalism. Stakeholder capitalism posits that companies are responsible for their role in society in addition to making money for shareholders, and the idea has gained traction in recent years. To read S&P Global's 2021 proxy report, click here.  Photo credit: Getty Images
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Apr 2, 2021 • 19min

State Street Global Advisors expects a data ‘revolution’

Last week, State Street Global Advisors released its annual asset stewardship report. With nearly $3.5 trillion in assets under management, the firm is one of the world’s largest asset managers. In 2020, it voted in more than 19,000 meetings and engaged with over 2,400 companies. In this episode, we hear from Ben Colton and Rob Walker, co-heads of the firm’s asset stewardship program. They tell us about the themes the firm focused on in shareholder engagements in 2020, like COVID-19 response, supply chain resilience and racial and gender diversity. And they say that last one is poised for rapid change. "I believe that in the next six to 12 months, you're going to see a revolution in the quality and the quantity of data related not only to racial and ethnic diversity, but human capital management more broadly,” Ben says. They also talk about the emerging themes they’re engaging on in 2021 proxy season. The Taskforce on Climate-related Financial Disclosures, or TCFD, has become widely adopted. Now, Ben and Rob say investors are shifting their focus from baseline climate disclosures to the governance of environmental issues. State Street Global Advisors' latest asset stewardship report can be found here: https://www.ssga.com/library-content/pdfs/asset-stewardship/asset-stewardship-report-2020.pdf Photo credit: Getty Images
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Mar 25, 2021 • 25min

Why companies, investors should be worried about water

World Water Day was March 22nd, and we’re marking the occasion by looking at the looming threat of water scarcity and the lack of investor appetite for financing water-related projects. According to the United Nations, 2.2 billion people globally lack safely managed drinking water, and 4.2 billion people do not have safely managed sanitation. The U.N. also warns that water scarcity could displace 700 million people by 2030. Access to clean water has become even more vital with COVID-19, which created a worldwide need for constant hand-washing. Water management is a risk for companies, too. S&P Global Trucost data shows that more than half of companies’ water usage comes from supply chains, so even companies operating in water-abundant regions can be affected by scarcity given the global nature of suppliers.  In this episode, we hear from Will Sarni, founder and CEO of water consultancy Water Foundry. Will says the world struggles to value water, which makes it difficult to secure capital investments in water technologies and solutions. To learn about some of the solutions that do exist, we talk to Emilio Tenuta, Chief Sustainability Officer at Ecolab, a provider of water and hygiene solutions. “We're seeing that disruptions and challenges to our water resources from climate change can have significant operational risk to businesses,” Emilio says. “It really impacts businesses and communities, whether it be operational costs for business, supply chain disruptions, growing constraints related to reputation and brand. Clearly, there's a growing concern for ESG investors who are investing in companies facing these challenges.” Ecolab just released an enhanced version of the Smart Water Navigator, a free, publicly available online tool that helps companies manage water risk using S&P Global Trucost data. Read a white paper co-authored by Ecolab and S&P Global Trucost on the topic of corporate water management here: https://ecolab.widen.net/s/8mlk7dwnsp/smart-water-navigator-working-paper Photo source: Getty Images

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