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Nov 26, 2021 • 21min

Direct Air Capture: A high-tech fix for climate change?

Can a global array of CO2-sucking machines save us from the worst ravages of climate change? This episode is the first in an ESG Insider miniseries about new carbon-removal technology. This week we examine a method called Direct Air Capture, or DAC Right now, DAC is expensive and only at the nascent stages of development. But there’s growing support from entrepreneurs and some large companies to deploy the approach on an industrial scale. In this episode, we interview Steve Oldham, CEO of a Canadian company called Carbon Engineering, which is building a giant carbon-sucking plant in America’s oil-rich Permian Basin. Oldham explains how the technology works; why his company almost shut its doors; and why it now has the backing of Bill Gates and a host of fossil fuel companies, including Occidental, BHP and Chevron. We also talk to Daniel Egger, Chief Commercial Officer of Swiss firm Climeworks. The clean tech company recently switched on the world’s largest DAC plant in Iceland. A smaller DAC plant run by Climeworks in Switzerland already sells the CO2 it extracts to greenhouses and to Coca-Cola, which uses the gas to put the fizz in its namesake drink. Our third guest is Stuart Haszeldine of the University of Edinburgh, which describes him as the world’s first official professor of carbon capture and storage. Haszeldine explains how DAC technology can help remove the large volumes of CO2 that humans have pumped into the air since the Industrial Revolution. He also points out that, despite recent progress on DAC technology, most politicians and policymakers have yet to back the idea because it “seems to promise magic out of thin air.” Photo credit: Getty Images
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Nov 19, 2021 • 32min

At COP26, connecting the climate and nature agendas

Protecting biodiversity and adopting nature-based solutions: Both play a critical role in addressing climate change and therefore cannot be ignored. This is a key theme we heard repeated at COP26, the U.N.’s big climate conference that took place in Glasgow over the first two weeks of November. In this episode of ESG Insider, we explore the emerging dialogue on climate change and nature-based considerations. For example, 92% of country climate pledges, known as Nationally Determined Contributions, or NDCs, submitted for COP26 included nature in their plans, Capitals Coalition CEO Mark Gough tells us. The Capitals Coalition advocates for companies to identify, measure and value their impacts and dependencies on natural capital, social capital and human capital. "Climate change is a driver for nature change," says Mark. "But also, nature can help to drive the changes that we want to see in the climate to make improvements there." In this episode, we also talk with Sarah Bratton Hughes, Global Head of Sustainability Solutions at UK-based asset management firm Schroders. She outlines how the firm is moving to reduce deforestation risks in its portfolios. And we'll hear how hard-to-decarbonize sectors such as steel and chemicals use nature to help meet their climate targets from Anthony Hobley, who is co-executive director of the Mission Possible Platform, a partnership between the World Economic Forum and the Energy Transitions Commission. For further coverage of COP26, listen to the podcast episode on Article 6 here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-cop26-why-article-6-matters-to-companies-and-investors/id1475521006?i=1000539436647 And listen to the podcast episode where we interviewed the co-chair of the Task Force on Nature-related Financial Disclosures, or TNFD, here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-new-task-force-in-town-tnfd-co-chair-talks/id1475521006?i=1000528412510 Photo credit: Getty Images
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Nov 12, 2021 • 33min

Inside COP26: Chaos, optimism, progress

There have been a lot of headlines coming out of COP26, the big United Nations climate conference that took place in Glasgow the first two weeks of November. In this episode of ESG Insider, we bring you inside the event through interviews with COP attendees.  We hear about the mood on the ground: chaotic, but with an overriding sense of optimism that the world can make progress toward the goal of limiting global warming to 1.5 degrees C relative to preindustrial levels.  “For the first time, that target seemed to be in reach,” says Mike Wilkins, Head of Sustainable Finance Research at S&P Global Ratings and a member of the Task Force on Climate-related Financial Disclosures, or TCFD, who has attended many previous iterations of COP. Part of that sense of progress came from the growing presence of the financial sector at COP.  “The finance sector was really clearly present and active, and communicating the need for financial institutions to take account of climate change. And that was a new part of the dynamic this year,” says Divya Mankikar, Global Head of ESG Market Engagement at S&P Global Sustainable1.  We saw many private sector pledges during COP26, including an announcement from the Glasgow Financial Alliance for Net Zero, or GFANZ, that financial institutions representing $130 trillion of assets have committed to Paris Agreement goals. We should celebrate that progress, says James Vaccaro, Executive Director of the Climate Safe Lending Network, a group with the goal of bringing international bank lending in line with the Paris Agreement.  “A few years ago, if anyone was really talking seriously about large global banks making net zero carbon commitments … it would have been seen as quite fringe or radical,” James tells us. But he says there is more work to do. “Once you do have people in the tent … you want to move very quickly from a situation of normalized best practice into raising the bar for everyone.” Photo credit: Getty Images
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Nov 5, 2021 • 30min

COP26 climate commitments send “clear signal” on how banks should finance transition

The 26th U.N. Climate Change Conference, known as COP26, is well underway in Glasgow. A big theme during the first week of the conference was the financial sector’s role in addressing climate change. In this episode of the ESG Insider podcast, we talk to Samu Slotte, global head of sustainable finance at Danske Bank, Denmark’s largest bank by assets. Samu talks about Danske Bank’s recent decision to join the Net-Zero Banking Alliance, a group of banks committed to aligning the greenhouse gas emissions of their lending and investment portfolios with net zero by 2050 or sooner, in line with the Paris Agreement. A challenge being discussed at COP26 is ensuring adequate climate financing makes its way to developing nations. “The overarching picture is that there's plenty of cash around looking for suitable investments,” Samu says. But he warns that the money is just not getting where it is needed. “The cash seems to be stuck in proven technologies in stable jurisdictions.” Photo credit: Getty Images
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Oct 29, 2021 • 17min

2021 proxy season marked “new era” of shareholder support for ESG issues

The 2021 proxy season brought a new level of shareholder support for key ESG-related themes ranging from climate change to diversity disclosures. In this episode of ESG Insider, we talk to Sustainable Investments Institute founding executive director Heidi Welsh. “We've entered a whole new era” of shareholder support for ESG issues, Heidi tells us. “Investors want more information on climate change, on diversity and inclusion, on corporate political influence,” she says. For additional information about the 2021 proxy season, listen to our episode on the implications of shareholders' ouster of several Exxon Mobil board members: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/exxon-board-ouster-over-climate-change-has-big-implications/id1475521006?i=1000524283710 And you can also find all our coverage of COP26 at http://spglobal.com/cop26 Photo credit: Getty Images
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Oct 22, 2021 • 24min

At COP26, why Article 6 matters to companies and investors

At COP26 in Glasgow in the first two weeks of November, government officials from around the world will gather to discuss plans for achieving the Paris agreement on climate change. A key issue on the table is Article 6, which involves international cooperation through carbon markets.   In this episode of ESG Insider, we talk with Kelley Kizzier, who was a lead Article 6 negotiator at previous COP gatherings, including in 2015 when countries reached the Paris agreement on climate change. Kelley, who is currently vice president for global climate at the Environmental Defense Fund, also recently joined the board of directors of the Taskforce on Scaling Voluntary Carbon Markets.  Kelley explains why Article 6 matters to companies and investors. She also outlines how Article 6 could affect voluntary carbon markets, where companies buy carbon credits to help meet their net zero goals.  To learn more about carbon markets and the role of Article 6, listen to the latest episode of the Platts Future Energy podcast from our colleagues at S&P Global Platts. https://www.spglobal.com/platts/en/market-insights/podcasts/platts-future-energy/101221-cop26-paris-agreement-article-6-voluntary-carbon-markets-carbon-footprint-emissions  Photo credit: Getty Images 
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Oct 15, 2021 • 22min

Morgan Stanley exec on net zero: 'We can't just wait 30 years and see what happens’

In this episode of the ESG Insider podcast, we talk to Jessica Alsford, Head of Global Sustainability Research at Morgan Stanley. In the run-up to COP26, the big United Nations climate conference taking place in Glasgow in November 2021, there has been a lot of discussion in the sustainability world about the path to net zero and the role the financial industry will play in reaching the goals of the Paris agreement. In the interview, Jessica talks about what needs to happen at COP26 to move companies beyond their headline net zero commitments into specific and transparent action plans. “We can't just wait 30 years and see what happens,” Jessica says. “So now, what comes next is [companies providing] that granularity, that visibility, about what are the specific actions” they are taking to achieve their end goal. "Investors are looking for annual disclosure and reporting on progress so that you can very clearly see which companies are decarbonizing and at what rate,” she adds. Jessica also says the lack of standardization in sustainability disclosure frameworks poses challenges for the ESG world. Still, she says, the direction of travel is clear: “You need more data in order to be able to make the ESG investment decisions.” Photo credit: Morgan Stanley
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Oct 8, 2021 • 30min

How an EU social taxonomy could bring clarity to "S" in ESG

The coronavirus pandemic and a growing awareness of social risks have thrust the ‘S’ in ESG into sharper focus for many sustainability-minded companies and investors. Issuance of social bonds — debt instruments that raise money for things like affordable housing, health and education — surged nine-fold to $165 billion dollars in 2020 from the previous year, according to data from Environmental Finance, a global sustainable finance news and analysis provider. And as that market expands, investors are seeking clear guidance on social investment definitions. The European Union has already developed a green taxonomy, or a classification system of sustainable businesses and sectors. In this episode of ESG Insider, we look at the potential social taxonomy the EU has proposed to help define the ‘S.’ “We've got a good understanding of the E,” says Victor van Hoorn, executive director at Eurosif, a European forum that promotes sustainable investment. “We're more or less starting with a blank sheet of paper when we're talking about the ‘S.’” Check out our episode on the green taxonomy here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/defining-green-what-investors-need-to-know-about-the/id1475521006?i=1000531954636 Photo credit: Getty Images 
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Oct 1, 2021 • 29min

Goldman Sachs executive on demystifying, measuring the ‘S’ in ESG

Over the past year and a half, we’ve seen companies, investors and regulators put a growing emphasis on the ‘S’ in ESG. But there is still a common refrain in the ESG world that social issues are nebulous or difficult to measure. In this episode of ESG Insider, we hear how one of the largest financial institutions in the U.S. is tackling the ‘S’ and making it measurable. "The 'S' does get less focus,” says Asahi Pompey, Global Head of Corporate Engagement at Goldman Sachs. “People still think it's kind of amorphous. What exactly is the ‘S’? Is it in hiring? Is it in retention? Is it recruiting? Is it investments in communities? Here's the answer: It's all of those." Asahi talks about how Goldman Sachs is adapting its internal policies, its investment approach and its business models with the ‘S’ in mind. For example, earlier this year, the company launched its One Million Black Women initiative, committing more than $10 billion to advance racial equity and economic opportunity by investing in Black women. And in 2020, Goldman Sachs announced that it would stop underwriting IPOs for companies in the U.S. and Europe that don’t have diverse boards. In the interview, Asahi also talks about corporate America’s changing approach to social issues broadly and racial equity in particular. But she cautions that those changes could be short-lived if society does not keep the issue on the front burner. “Corporate America has a long way to go in order to drive sustained progress on the 'S,'” Asahi says. “Now, we've seen commitments across the industry and various sectors. That being said … it can't be episodic, and it has to be sustained, and it has to be measurable. We all know things get done when they're measured.” Photo credit: Goldman Sachs
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Sep 24, 2021 • 20min

How The Big Apple is taking on the carbon footprint from buildings

In this special New York Climate Week episode of the ESG Insider podcast, we explore how the built environment – new building construction plus existing offices, apartment blocks, airports and other structures – is responsible for nearly 40% of all global carbon dioxide emissions, and what it will take to decarbonize this vast sector. In the episode, we interview three experts on the subject: Mark Reynolds, CEO of Mace Group, a large construction company focused on making buildings more sustainable; John Mandyck, CEO of a non-profit in New York City called Urban Green Council; and Dana Schneider, director of energy and sustainability at the Empire State Realty Trust, which owns the Empire State Building in New York, an iconic structure that has made significant headway in lowering its carbon footprint. Lowering the carbon footprint of the built environment is a massive task. Although building emissions reached their highest level in 2019, many cities have not yet embarked on sizable decarbonization plans. Some landlords could have to spend millions to retrofit buildings. Construction companies are under pressure to use less carbon-intensive materials. Homeowners are being prodded to spend money to make homes energy efficient. And investors with face the challenge of assessing the transition risk.  That helps to explain why at least three panel discussions at this week’s NY Climate Week were devoted to carbon emissions from the built environment, and why the big UN COP26 climate conference this fall will similarly dedicate an entire day to the subject. Photo credit: Getty Images

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