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ESG Insider: A podcast from S&P Global

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Feb 11, 2022 • 26min

How one of the world’s largest insurers is tackling climate change

Climate change is driving up insurance-related losses on a global scale even as homeowners, businesses and communities around the world continue to build in hazard-prone areas such as those that experience frequent flooding or storm damage. In this episode of ESG Insider, we examine how one of the world’s largest insurers is tackling rising risks from climate change in an interview with Ernst Rauch, Chief Climate and Geo Scientist and Head of the Climate Solutions Unit at Munich Re. A recent report from the German insurance company found that natural disasters around the world caused about $280 billion in damages in 2021. About $120 billion of those damages involved assets covered by insurance — up from $82 billion in 2020 and $57 billion in 2019. Ernst explains that there is ample data available to help the insurance industry make informed decisions about exposure to different kinds of climate risks. But this information is not always easily accessible to the public. “The issue is how to bring this information to the people, to the citizens and to the businesses,” he says. Listen to our episode on record rainfall in 2021 that caused deadly flooding in Western Europe: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/record-floods-highlight-climate-risks-to-business-in/id1475521006?i=1000530552007 We'd love to hear from you. To give us feedback on this episode or share ideas for future episodes, please contact hosts Lindsey Hall (lindsey.white@spglobal.com) and Esther Whieldon (esther.whieldon@spglobal.com). Photo credit: Getty Images
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Feb 4, 2022 • 15min

Why a siloed approach to ESG won’t fly in 2022

In this episode of the ESG Insider podcast, we explore a key theme emerging at the center of the ESG movement in 2022: That’s the idea that environmental, social and governance factors should not be considered in isolation, but rather should be understood in relation to each other. In the episode we speak to Dr. Richard Mattison, who is President of S&P Global Sustainable1 and a member of the Taskforce on Nature-related Financial Disclosures, or TNFD. Richard talks about the need to tie together the net zero, nature and social agendas. “We can't achieve a transition to a net zero economy without also being a nature-positive transition and a just transition,” he says. Listen to our episode on the International Sustainability Standards Board, or ISSB: https://soundcloud.com/esginsider/standard-setters-work-to-close Listen to our episode on the TNFD: https://soundcloud.com/esginsider/the-new-task-force-in-town Read the full report from S&P Global about the key trends that will drive the ESG agenda in 2022: https://www.spglobal.com/esg/insights/key-esg-trends-in-2022 We'd love to hear from you! To give us feedback on this episode or share ideas for future episodes, please contact hosts Lindsey Hall (lindsey.white@spglobal.com) and Esther Whieldon (esther.whieldon@spglobal.com). Photo credit: Getty Images
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Jan 28, 2022 • 26min

What the gas and nuclear debate around the EU taxonomy means for investors

At the beginning of January 2022, a key element of the EU’s sustainable finance policy came into effect — the green taxonomy, a kind of dictionary of sustainable activities. Investors must now disclose how their funds meet taxonomy climate-related requirements, while large companies need to report on how much of their business is in line with the taxonomy. But an ongoing debate over whether natural gas and nuclear power should be included in the tool is overshadowing the taxonomy’s introduction. The EU announced at the New Year that it had begun consultations on including gas and nuclear after delaying a decision earlier in 2021 following pressure from sustainable investors, activists, and its own expert advisory group. The bloc faces pressure to avoid making countries that are highly dependent on fossil fuels feel they are being left behind in the transition. Meanwhile, critics say the EU risks hurting its reputation as a global leader in sustainable finance regulation. To find out how investors are viewing the debate, we speak to Rachel Ward, policy programme director at the Institutional Investors Group on Climate Change, which represents more than €50 trillion of assets under management and has called on the EU to exclude gas from the taxonomy. “Gas cannot meet the prescribed requirements included in the taxonomy. To do so would be misleading,” she tells us in this episode of ESG Insider. We also speak to Matthias Fawer, a senior analyst for ESG & Impact Assessment at Vontobel Asset Management, who says the proposal to include nuclear and gas in the taxonomy comes during the “difficult and delicate” transition period that is taking place until renewables can replace fossil fuels. And Alexander Lehmann, head of the Sustainable World Academy at Frankfurt School of Finance and Management, tells us that the proposal adds complications and potential risks for investors. To learn more about the EU’s green taxonomy, listen to our earlier episode here: https://soundcloud.com/esginsider/defining-green-what-investors We'd love to hear from you! To give us feedback on this episode or share ideas for future episodes, please contact hosts Lindsey Hall (lindsey.white@spglobal.com) and Esther Whieldon (esther.whieldon@spglobal.com). Photo credit: Getty Images
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Jan 21, 2022 • 19min

US climate-related disasters cost $145 billion in 2021 and more ahead, scientists say

In 2021, the world saw many major climate-related disasters ranging from wildfires, to flooding and hurricanes. The U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, or NOAA, recently released its annual climate trends report, providing an important snapshot of the physical risks from climate change in the U.S. The report also puts a price tag on those risks: U.S. weather and climate-related disasters reached $145 billion in 2021. In this episode of ESG Insider, Climatologist Karin Gleason of NOAA's National Centers for Environmental Information explains how climate change is amplifying extreme weather events by making them happen more often, last longer, and cause more damage. And Karin's colleague, Climatologist Adam Smith, says 2021 further proves that the world must both adapt to the physical risks of climate change and mitigate future impacts by curbing greenhouse gas emissions. As for physical risks, "it's a socioeconomic question about how can we make ourselves more resilient collectively, whether it's the individual level, homeowner level, a town, even at the state and the federal levels." We'd love to hear from you! To give us feedback on this episode or share ideas for future episodes, please contact hosts Lindsey Hall (lindsey.white@spglobal.com) and Esther Whieldon (esther.whieldon@spglobal.com). Photo credit: Getty Images
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Jan 18, 2022 • 29min

What the EU aims to achieve with its carbon border tax proposal

The EU proposed a carbon border adjustment mechanism in 2021 as part of a broad climate package designed to reduce carbon emissions by 55% from 1990 levels by 2030. This mechanism — widely known as ‘CBAM' — would put a tariff on imports of carbon-intensive goods. The proposed regulation aims to prevent EU-based companies from moving production to other jurisdictions with less stringent climate regulation (also known as ‘carbon leakage'). It also aims to avoid imports of carbon-intensive products to the detriment of EU companies. CBAM will be phased in from 2023 if approved by the European Parliament and EU member states, so companies are already putting measures in place to ensure they adhere to the potential new rules, says Yaroslav Alekseyev, a partner at law firm Linklaters, in this episode of the ESG Insider podcast. Some experts believe CBAM will encourage other jurisdictions to set carbon prices. “If a company from a country outside of the EU wants to export products into the European Union market, they will have pay that CBAM at the border if they don't have a domestic carbon price that is high enough," says Sanjay Patnaik, director of the Center on Regulation and Markets at Washington, D.C.-based think tank the Brookings Institution. "That could really set incentives around the world.” But some industrial sectors are not convinced. We hear tom Emanuele Manigrassi, the public affairs manager at trade group European Aluminium, who says the aluminium sector does not believe CBAM will support low-carbon production. His organization is calling for CBAM to be tested before it is introduced. We'd love to hear from you! To give us feedback on this episode or share ideas for future episodes, please contact hosts Lindsey Hall (lindsey.white@spglobal.com) and Esther Whieldon (esther.whieldon@spglobal.com). Photo credit: Getty Images
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Jan 7, 2022 • 29min

ESG experts are watching these sustainability trends in 2022

To welcome the New Year, we hear from experts across the ESG world about what sustainability trends they are watching in 2022. Our guests in this episode of ESG Insider include Curtis Ravenel, who is Secretariat for the Task Force on Climate-related Financial Disclosures and senior adviser to former Bank of England Governor Mark Carney. We also talk with the Head of Global Sustainability Research at Morgan Stanley, and the Head of Energy and Environment Transition at French bank BNP Paribas. And we hear from an activist investment firm in the U.S. that has been pressing companies to perform racial equity audits. Themes we cover include the importance of holding financial institutions accountable for decarbonization pledges, the outlook for sweeping change in biodiversity disclosure and data, and rising investor pressure on companies to address social inequities. Here are links to our most popular episodes from 2021: https://www.spglobal.com/esg/podcasts/at-cop26-why-article-6-matters-to-companies-and-investors https://www.spglobal.com/esg/podcasts/goldman-sachs-executive-on-demystifying-measuring-the-s-in-esg We'd love to hear from you! To give us feedback on this episode or share ideas for future episodes, please contact cohosts Lindsey Hall (lindsey.white@spglobal.com) and Esther Whieldon (esther.whieldon@spglobal.com) Photo credit: Getty Images
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Dec 21, 2021 • 32min

Climate must factor into ‘every financial transaction,’ says Just Climate Chairman

In this year’s final episode of ESG Insider, we talk with David Blood about two big sustainability issues impacting the financial sector as we head into 2022: Plugging the climate financing gap, and aligning investment portfolios with Paris Agreement goals. David is a senior partner at Generation Investment Management, the sustainable investment firm he founded with former U.S. Vice President Al Gore. David tells us about the strategy behind Just Climate, a new venture Generation Investment Management launched in October 2021 to tackle the net zero challenge at scale. "To achieve our goal of limiting global temperature rise to less than 1.5 degrees C, every financial transaction must take climate into consideration," David says in the interview. "I don't believe yet that the asset owner community or the asset manager community fully embrace that, have fully internalized that notion." He also talks about his role leading the Portfolio Alignment Team. This group was created in 2020 by Mark Carney in his capacity as U.N. Special Envoy for Climate in response to rising interest from investors and lenders in measuring how portfolios align with Paris Agreement goals. The Portfolio Alignment Team published its latest report shortly before COP26. In this episode, we also speak with Carter Powis, a consultant with McKinsey who led the firm’s support of the team. "Knowledge of portfolio alignment tools is still in a very nascent state across the financial sector," Carter says. "As a result, there are some pervasive misunderstandings about what these tools are and why they're important." Photo credit: Generation Investment Management
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Dec 17, 2021 • 27min

Defining net zero: How to turn pledges into concrete action

'Net zero’ was a buzzword in the sustainability world in 2021, but big questions remain about what this term really means. In this episode of ESG Insider, we'll hear how the Science Based Targets initiative, or SBTi, is defining net zero in its newly released corporate standard. And to understand the challenges the financial sector faces in defining and achieving net zero targets, we talk to Curtis Ravenel, who is senior adviser to Mark Carney — the former Bank of England Governor who now acts as U.N. special envoy on climate finance.  We'll also hear from Jeanne Martin, senior campaign manager at U.K.-based investor activist group ShareAction, about where European banks stand and why they need to make significant progress toward their net zero goals by 2030.   To learn more about the extent to which big corporations in multiple sectors are setting net zero targets, read an analysis by S&P Global Market Intelligence:  https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/news-insights/latest-news-headlines/path-to-net-zero-stakeholders-demand-action-on-ambitions-as-pledges-swell-67951124 Photo credit: Getty Images
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Dec 10, 2021 • 31min

How 2 new technologies could pave the road to net-zero

In this final episode of our miniseries on emerging technologies that can help companies achieve net zero emissions by mid-century, we're examining two cutting-edge projects for the agricultural, mining and road construction industries.  In this episode of ESG Insider, we explore how scientists in California are using a new technology called enhanced weathering to help the farming and mining industries become part of the climate solution.  We also hear how Spanish energy and infrastructure company Acciona is working with the paper industry to help decarbonize the process for making roads.  Photo credit: Getty Image 
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Dec 3, 2021 • 39min

How whisky, yoga pants and a trash burning plant are helping tackle climate change

What do Glenfiddich whisky, yoga pants and a trash-burning waste-to-heat plant in Europe have in common? They’re all part of efforts to use emerging technologies to tackle climate change.  As companies and countries around the world pursue net zero targets, one big question is: How do you ensure the carbon removal technologies we will need 20 to 30 years down the road are available, affordable and easily scaled? In this episode of ESG Insider, we bring you the second part in our miniseries about emerging climate technologies. We hear how Scotch whisky maker Glenfiddich uses a part of its distillery process to power delivery trucks. We explore how biotech company LanzaTech is using bacteria to recycle gases into ethanol that is used to create everything from yoga pants to shampoo bottles to low-carbon aviation fuels.   And lastly, we learn how Fortum Oslo Varme’s waste-to-energy trash-burning plant in Norway is being converted to capture carbon emissions and send them to be permanently stored deep under the North Sea. This technology is often referred to as bioenergy with carbon capture and storage, or BECCS, and can be used to help tackle climate change when done in a sustainable manner.  Photo credit: William Grant & Sons 

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