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Sep 17, 2021 • 32min

Pulling back the curtain on the promise of low-carbon hydrogen

When we talk about the technologies the world will need to tackle climate change, low-carbon hydrogen is increasingly part of the discussion. Two recent studies raise some big questions about whether some of these hydrogen technologies are as climate-friendly as proponents claim. In this episode of ESG Insider, we look at the research and development of blue hydrogen, which is derived from natural gas and paired with carbon-capturing technology to reduce the resulting emissions. And we also examine what role green hydrogen, which is created using renewable generation to separate water molecules, could play. We talk with the authors of those two recent studies and we hear from a hydrogen expert at a European research institute about the current state of the industry and what role the government is playing in promoting these technologies. Photo credit: Getty Images
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Sep 10, 2021 • 28min

How green banks can accelerate climate finance

There’s a massive gap between the amount of investment needed to make the climate transition happen and what is occurring today. In this episode of ESG Insider, we explore the role that green banks can play in plugging that funding gap. Green banks can differ in scope and approach but are generally created to leverage government funds to mobilize private investment in clean and resilient infrastructure on the local scale. They exist in many parts of the world, including Australia, Japan, Malaysia, Switzerland, the U.S. and the U.K. In the episode, we’ll hear from Reed Hundt, co-founder, chairman and CEO of the Coalition for Green Capital, which has helped organize a number of green banks and is pressing the U.S. Congress to create a federal green bank. And we’ll look at how the first state-level green bank in the U.S. — the Connecticut Green Bank — has evolved since forming in 2011. We talk with Connecticut Green Bank President and CEO Bryan Garcia, who tells us: “Our goal is to demonstrate to the ... capital markets that this is a safe area of investment, and we're willing to put our capital at risk in front of you to do that.” Photo credit: Getty Images
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Sep 3, 2021 • 22min

What Nasdaq’s diversity rule tells us about the direction of disclosure in the US

In early August, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission approved a proposal by Nasdaq to require companies listed on the New York-based exchange to disclose certain board diversity information. In this episode of ESG Insider, we explore what the rule means in practice for companies and investors. We hear from Matt Patsky, the CEO of Trillium Asset Management, about why investors view board diversity as a material factor — and what the SEC approval indicates about the direction of disclosure in the U.S. “The SEC's willingness to approve this Nasdaq board diversity rule sends a strong signal that they believe there's materiality to diversity,” Matt says. “And with that belief, I think it means we're moving closer to the SEC mandating disclosure of diversity information from companies broadly.” For the corporate and regulatory perspective, we talk with Cam Hoang, a corporate securities and SEC compliance lawyer and partner at the law firm Dorsey & Whitney. We also hear the recruiter’s perspective on the new rule from WSS Executive Search CEO & Founder Becky Heidesch, who has been helping companies find candidates with diverse profiles for decades. In the episode, you’ll hear us refer to an S&P Global Market Intelligence analysis of gender diversity on U.S. company boards and executive teams. You can read that research here: https://platform.mi.spglobal.com/web/client?auth=inherit#news/article?id=65743394&cdid=A-65743394-9776 To learn more about human capital management disclosures in the U.S., listen to this earlier episode of ESG Insider: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/esginsider/ESG_Insider_US_Diversity_Regulations_-_v3.mp3 Photo credit: Getty Images
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Aug 27, 2021 • 25min

In fighting climate change, major IPCC report finds every little bit matters

A sobering new report from the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change tells corporations and governments in no uncertain terms: Act with urgency to lower emissions and adapt to the impacts of climate change at a more rapid pace and bigger scale. In this episode of ESG Insider, we look at the implications of the IPCC report for investors and companies, and we talk to two scientists who helped write the nearly 4,000-page document to better understand its key findings. Claudia Tebaldi, a scientist with the Joint Global Change Research Institute at the Pacific Northwest National Laboratory and one of the report’s authors, says incremental changes can make a big difference — for better or for worse. “Every little bit matters,” says Claudia. "This is in the bad sense that every little bit of warming is making the situation worse, but also that every little thing that we can make to slow down and stop [global warming] is going to matter.” We also talk to Kirsten Spalding, senior director for the investor network at Ceres, on how the lPCC’s latest findings will shape future investor engagement with companies on climate change. The report shows that “the need for action is even on a shorter timeline than we knew before,” Kirsten says. Photo credit: Getty Images
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Aug 20, 2021 • 15min

TCFD gains momentum as climate reporting shifts from voluntary to mandatory

Several countries will soon make it mandatory for large companies and asset managers to calculate and publicly report their climate-related risks. It’s a complex accounting challenge and many businesses aren't fully prepared. The governments of the U.K., New Zealand, Hong Kong and Switzerland, as well as the G7 group of nations, are among those backing mandatory reporting under the Taskforce on Climate-related Financial Disclosures, or TCFD, framework. The push towards compulsory TCFD reporting will put pressure on banks, businesses and asset managers that have yet to embrace such disclosure. A big reason why many companies struggle with TCFD implementation is because it's hard to collect, collate and analyze detailed emissions-related data in all areas of their operations. Companies also need to train their employees on technical aspects of reporting under the framework. Above all, TCFD implementation must be roundly embraced and instilled — all the way from the C-suite to product and client-teams — and that takes time. In this episode, we speak to Thora Frost, senior manager of green finance at the Carbon Trust, a London-based consulting firm that works on climate change and sustainability issues. And we interview Matthew Townsend, partner at U.K. law firm Allen & Overy. "You have a blizzard of regulation and policy coming down the line, certainly over the next five years, and I don't see it letting up in many jurisdictions," Townsend says. Photo credit: Getty Images
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Aug 13, 2021 • 20min

Defining green: What investors need to know about the EU taxonomy

If you’ve been following sustainability headlines over the past few years, chances are you’ve heard about the EU’s green taxonomy — essentially, a dictionary that defines how sustainable a business or sector is. It assesses more than 100 economic activities and is designed to steer companies as they adapt their business strategies to climate change, as well as help investment funds judge sectors based on their environmental performance. Investors will also have to disclose what percentage of their investments are in line with the taxonomy. The new regulation is expected to radically change how investors and companies report on their environmental performance. It will be enforced from 2022, which does not leave investors a lot of time to get up to speed. And the taxonomy is not quite finalized, with further regulation expected in 2023 — creating some big challenges for investors trying to navigate the changing sustainability landscape. To talk us through what investors can expect from the taxonomy, we spoke to Helena Viñes Fiestas, commissioner at Spain’s Financial Markets Authority. She’s also rapporteur of the EU Platform on Sustainable Finance, a body of experts from industry, finance and civil society who advise the EU’s executive arm on the future of sustainable finance policy in Europe. “I like to compare it a little bit with food products,” Helena says of the taxonomy. “If you market your product as low fat, it's only fair to ask how much fat it has and whether or not it's too much. This is exactly the same, where the taxonomy becomes the recommended daily intake.” Photo credit: Getty Images
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Aug 6, 2021 • 19min

‘Unfathomable’: Why US investors, regulators are rethinking human capital management disclosures

Wall Street’s top regulator, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, is in the early stages of creating a number of new ESG-related disclosure rules, including on the issue of human capital management.   Human capital management refers to the way that companies manage their workforce. It includes things like a company’s approach to hiring, recruitment, pay and benefits, and the working conditions a company provides. Right now, public corporate disclosures on these topics are voluntary in the U.S. But many investors say that leads to insufficient and inconsistent data.  “I think it’s unfathomable that, in this day and age, the only metric that companies are currently required to disclose is the number of people that they employ — especially when we talk to every company and they tell us that their human capital is their most important asset,” says Aeisha Mastagni, a portfolio manager in the sustainable investment and strategies group at the California State Teachers' Retirement System, one of the largest public pension funds in the U.S. “And yet we as investors have no way to measure that, benchmark that, compare it to other companies in our portfolio.”  In this episode, we explore the changing state of human capital data disclosure in the U.S., why some investors want disclosures to become mandatory, and what to expect from the SEC.   We also talk to securities and governance lawyers at the Philadelphia-based law firm Dechert and with Bryan McGannon, director of policy and programs at US SIF: the forum for responsible and sustainable investment.
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Jul 30, 2021 • 15min

Record floods highlight climate risks to business in Europe's richest nations

In mid-July 2021, the heaviest rainfall in a century triggered intense flash floods and inundated several towns in Germany, the Netherlands and Belgium, causing at least 188 deaths. The floods in Europe are a reminder that although emerging markets are likely to be hit hardest by a temperature rise, richer countries in the northern hemisphere are far from immune from the effects of severe weather.   In this episode, we talk with experts to understand the biggest climate risks facing Europe's biggest economies, analyzing physical risk data from S&P Global Trucost.   Guests on the episode include Irene Lauro, an economist with asset manager Schroders; and Swenja Surminski who leads adaptation research at the Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change and the Environment at the London School of Economics. And we talk to Berenberg Bank analyst Michael Huttner about how the floods could impact insurance companies.
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Jul 23, 2021 • 17min

CSRD: EU's latest proposed addition to alphabet soup of sustainability regulation

The podcast discusses the EU's proposed Corporate Sustainability Reporting Directive (CSRD). It explores the need for consistent ESG data, the expansion of reporting requirements, and the obligatory auditing of sustainability reports. The episode also covers the concept of double materiality, the impact on SMEs, and the potential effects of mandatory reporting standards on disclosure and data usability.
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Jul 16, 2021 • 19min

What EU's proposed green bond standards could mean for market

The EU has proposed a European Green Bond Standard as part of its strategy to drive investment into sustainable finance and achieve net zero carbon emissions by 2050. The new rules will also aim to protect investors from greenwashing, which is when an investment is made to sound greener than it is. Although they represent a tiny fraction of the overall debt market, green bonds — debt that finances environmentally friendly projects such as wind farms or solar power — have grown rapidly over the last eight years, from virtually nothing in 2012 to nearly $300 billion in 2020. The EU is counting on further growth in the market to meet the targets in its European Green Deal, designed to mobilize at least €1 trillion of sustainable investment over the next 10 years. The rules will be tougher than other existing green bond guidelines because issuers will have to prove their green bonds are financing projects in line with the EU's "green taxonomy," a dictionary of sustainable activities. In this episode, we speak to Climate Bonds Initiative CEO Sean Kidney, who was part of an advisory group that helped shape the new rules. Regulation has “been right from the beginning, a feature of the development of the market. Issuers have followed the regulations, and it's grown to be a very large successful market,” he tells us.   Listen to our episode on the EU's green taxonomy: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5b3qx805nauyVGvcJo9Wsr   Photo credit: Getty Images

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