Jump Podcast

Disney’s decision to suspend — and later reinstate — late-night talk show host Jimmy Kimmel is all anyone can talk about. The involvement of Trump-appointed FCC Chairman Brendan Carr has sparked debate over free speech and potential government overreach. However, Dev Patnaik and Michelle Loret de Mola believe that, at the heart of the controversy, lie important lessons for enterprise businesses on navigating conflicting stakeholder demands in an era of crisis overload.

What kind of future are we actually building—and is it one we want to live in? Live from Jump Offsite 2025 in Napa Valley, Dev Patnaik and Michelle Loret de Mola share takeaways from three days of deep dives, bold ideas, and uncomfortable truths. AI is accelerating, but do we really understand what we’re unleashing? Culture is shifting, but are we losing the social glue that holds us together? And in business, do startups still have the edge when it comes to disruption? One thing we walked away with: it’s time to pause and ask where our current trajectory is leading, and what trade-offs we’re willing to make along the way. And if you're still holding out hope for a brighter future, good news: your dog might live to see it.

Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik sit down with cognitive scientist Dr. Shannon Heald to explore what it really means for AI to be a thought partner, and why the missing piece is metacognition. They discuss how we’ve moved from offloading memory with tools like maps and lists to offloading generation with large language models, and what that means for leaders trying to balance efficiency with insight. Shannon also shares how leaders can pair AI’s ability to performance tune with a process of captured serendipity to evolve better ideas. AI can help you reach your goals, but you still need to go outside to find out what a hike is.   #AI #ThoughtPartner #CognitiveScience #Metacognition #LLMs #Serendipity   Links Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/podcastandnewsletter/ Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com   The Jump Podcast The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.   Jump Associates Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

What if your greatest leadership tool isn’t in your spreadsheet, but in your spirit? In this profound and provocative episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik are joined by Dr. Lisa Miller—Columbia professor and author of The Awakened Brain—to explore the science of spirituality and its surprising impact on decision-making and leadership. Lisa reveals that every human is biologically wired for spiritual awareness, and when leaders tap into this awakened mindset, they unlock a deeper form of knowing—one that data alone can’t provide. Together, the trio dives into twin studies, MRI scans, and real-world examples to show how intuition, mystical experiences, and even dreams can guide game-changing decisions. In an era of radical uncertainty, this conversation offers a timely reminder: the most future-ready leaders are those willing to listen not just to the numbers—but to the soul.   #Spirituality #Religion #DecisionMaking #leadership   Links Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/podcastandnewsletter/ Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com   The Jump Podcast The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.   Jump Associates Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Customer service may be stuck in the past, but finance doesn’t have to be. In this episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik talk with Anders Jones, CEO and co-founder of Facet, a fintech company shaking up the traditional wealth management model. Facet’s subscription-based service brings affordable, high-quality financial advice to the mass affluent—those with too much complexity for DIY but too little to interest legacy firms. Anders shares how his personal and professional journeys led to a new model of service delivery, how AI is augmenting (not replacing) the human advisor, and why success meant questioning industry norms like commission models and asset-based fees. The conversation dives deep into financial democratization, the gritty realities of cost structure innovation, and the surprising role moms played in sparking this movement. If you’ve ever felt like financial advice wasn’t made for people like you, this episode is for you.   #FutureOfFinance #FinTech #innovation #strategy #Disruption   Links Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/podcastandnewsletter/ Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com   The Jump Podcast The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.   Jump Associates Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

In this episode of the Jump Podcast, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik sit down with Diana Williams, CEO of Kinetic Energy Entertainment, to talk about where stories are headed next. From Star Wars to immersive VR, Diana shares how the rules of media are being rewritten, from who owns the story to how fans shape it. It’s a conversation about creativity, control, and why the future of entertainment is kind of like growing out your bangs: messy, uncomfortable, and totally worth it. #Entertainment #FilmAndMedia #Storytelling #FutureFocused   Links Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/podcastandnewsletter/ Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com   The Jump Podcast The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.   Jump Associates Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

HBO is HBO again—but what does that really mean? In this episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik dive into the streaming wars, using HBO Max’s identity crisis as a masterclass in brand strategy. From dizzying rebrands to the pitfalls of copycatting Netflix, they unpack why rediscovering your DNA is key to long-term success. With lessons from Netflix, Apple TV, and Disney+, this episode is a playbook for future-focused leaders in any industry. Whether you're in media, retail, or airlines, the takeaway is clear: stand out, don’t blend in.   #Streaming #HBOMax #BrandStrategy #Netflix #Disruption   Links Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/podcastandnewsletter/ Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com   The Jump Podcast The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.   Jump Associates Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Is Silicon Valley still the epicenter of innovation, or has the magic moved elsewhere? In this thought-provoking episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik revisit the 2020 exodus narrative and dissect what really happened to the Valley. They explore how proximity, culture, and infrastructure still fuel Silicon Valley’s innovation scene—even as remote work and tech layoffs reshape the landscape. From the birth of AI in San Francisco to the enduring power of Stanford, Sputnik, and shamelessness, the duo dives deep into what makes a true innovation hub. This one’s a masterclass in innovation ecosystems—past, present, and future. #Innovation #SiliconValley  #AI #VentureCapital #Stanford #Startups   Links Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/podcastandnewsletter/ Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com   The Jump Podcast The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.   Jump Associates Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Smart is good. Wise is better. In this episode of The Jump Podcast, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik break down why today’s leaders need more than just intelligence to thrive, they need wisdom. They explore the difference between solving complicated versus ambiguous problems, why empathy and perspective are essential leadership tools, and how even titans like Elon Musk can falter without a deeper sense of judgment. From corporate burnout to Disney’s Snow White misstep, the conversation reveals how wisdom isn’t just about age or experience, it’s about seeing the whole board. And yes, there’s a robot or two. #Wisdom #Leadership #AmbiguousProblems #EmotionalIntelligence #FutureFocused   Links Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/podcastandnewsletter/ Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com   The Jump Podcast The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.   Jump Associates Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

How do you win today without tripping over tomorrow? In this episode of the Jump Podcast, Dev Patnaik and Michelle Loret de Mola explore what it really means to balance the now and the next. They spotlight companies like Microsoft, CVS, Walmart, Delta, and Visa—each showing how strategic infrastructure investments and boring-but-brilliant moves can solve today’s challenges while setting up for long-term success. Whether it’s cloud platforms, healthcare pivots, or free in-flight Wi-Fi, the key is building capabilities that keep options open for an uncertain future. #FutureFocus #strategy #innovation   Links Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/podcastandnewsletter/ Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com   The Jump Podcast The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.   Jump Associates Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.