
Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is a conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture, and leadership.
The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out how to avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener, things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Latest episodes

Apr 18, 2025 • 49min
Strategy: Not What, but When
What if the secret to smarter strategy isn’t what you’re doing—but when you’re doing it? In this episode of The Jump Podcast, Dev Patnaik and Michelle Loret de Mola dive into why timing might be the most underrated part of strategic thinking. From crisis mode to long-term vision, they break down how leaders can align their approach to the moment—whether you’re righting the ship, catching up to competitors, or inventing the future. Along the way, they unpack lessons from LEGO’s legendary turnaround, Netflix’s long game, and Microsoft’s three-horizon masterclass. Tune in—and if your mood ring’s glowing red, it might not be love… it might just be planning season.
Links
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The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Apr 3, 2025 • 46min
Pivoting to the Future: A Conversation with Ross Rosenberg of Magic Leap
In this episode of the Jump Podcast, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik sit down with Ross Rosenberg, CEO of Magic Leap, to unpack the future of augmented reality and how a startup can outmaneuver tech giants. Ross shares Magic Leap’s evolution from consumer-focused AR to precision-driven B2B applications—like spinal surgery—and its bold pivot back toward consumer markets, now fueled by the rise of AI. The trio dives deep into the culture shift from “pioneering everything” to partnering smartly, and how defining the company’s true superpowers led to strategic clarity. It’s a powerful lesson in making hard choices, building abilities over assets, and embracing modularity for an uncertain future. Oh, and there’s quantum teleportation, naturally.
#AugmentedReality #MagicLeap #FutureFocused #AR #Leadership #Strategy
Links
Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/podcastandnewsletter/
Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Mar 21, 2025 • 46min
DEI Is Dead: Get Ready for Diversity
In this episode of The Jump Podcast, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik dive headfirst into the DEI discussionand why so many companies are getting it wrong. From major brands walking back diversity initiatives to activist investors applying pressure, the duo unpacks what’s performative, what’s purposeful, and what actually drives business success. They spotlight smart strategies from companies like Costco, Apple, and Diageo, and challenge the false meritocracy narratives that have crept back into corporate culture. If you're trying to figure out how to build a workforce that reflects the future—not the past—this one’s a must-listen.
#DEI #Leadership #WorkplaceInclusion #BusinessStrategy #CorporateCulture
Links
Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/podcastandnewsletter/
Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Mar 21, 2025 • 41min
The Five Big Things: Finding Focus in a Chaotic 2025
Ever feel like your to-do list is longer than a CVS receipt? You’re not alone. In this episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik break down why leaders struggle to focus and how narrowing down to just five key priorities can be a game-changer. They discuss why leaders need to actually decide what matters, how Sam Altman and Brian Chesky cut through the noise, and why the Broccoli family’s James Bond strategy is a lesson in focus. Oh, and if your team can’t rattle off your top five priorities without checking their notes? This episode might just be for you.
Links
Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/podcastandnewsletter/
Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Mar 3, 2025 • 48min
Getting Fracked: How Even Great Businesses Fall Behind
Even great businesses can get fracked. In this episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik break down why even well-run companies can get blindsided by external forces beyond their control. They introduce the "Fracked List," a framework categorizing companies into four groups: the totally fracked, those getting fracked, the ones fighting fracking, and—most importantly—the frackers themselves. From Nvidia’s AI competition with DeepSeek to McDonald’s struggle against shifting consumer habits, the duo explores how businesses can avoid getting left behind. Are you paying attention to market forces, substitutes, and piranhas? Tune in to find out how to stay ahead and avoid getting fracked.
Links
Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/podcastandnewsletter/
Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Mar 3, 2025 • 43min
Separating the Signal from the Noise
In this season opener, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik explore the critical challenge of distinguishing between fleeting "moments" and long-term "momentum" in business and life. From electric vehicle adoption to AI’s evolving impact on the workforce, they discuss how leaders can resist the distractions of short-term noise and focus on big-picture trends shaping the future. With insights on strategy, mindset shifts, and real-world examples like Disney's streaming pivot, they equip future-focused leaders with tools to navigate uncertainty and invest wisely for long-term success.
Headlines from the Future (33:52)
Links
Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/podcastandnewsletter/
Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Dec 21, 2024 • 53min
The Future is Here: Top Headlines from 2024
It’s a bird, it’s a plane…it’s the end of 2024! In this special episode of the Jump Podcast, Dev and Michelle reminisce on the year we’ve had. And what a year it has been! From de-globalization to UFO sightings, from AI agents reshaping consumer behavior to GLP-1 drugs revolutionizing health habits, the duo unpacks the seismic shifts defining our present and shaping our future. They explore game-changing advancements in quantum computing, the energy revolution, and social media’s shifting reputation, all while offering insights on how future-focused leaders can thrive amidst the chaos. Buckle up for a whirlwind tour of the headlines from the future and stay tuned for one special extra headline!
Happy holidays and see you next year,
The Jump Team
#FutureFocused #AI #QuantumComputing #Healthcare #Deglobalization #GLP1s #UFOs
Headlines
4:56 - Companies bracing for de-globalization
7:50 - GLP1 drugs
11:34 - AI assistants, shoppers, lovers
17:00 - AI as governmental decision-makers
21:05 - Social media = cigarettes
25:37 - Big tech seeks new energy sources
28:08 - Fusion tech commercialization
31:45 - Healthcare CEO assassinated
37:00 - Climate change breaking business models
39:45 - Google quantum computing
57:10 - UFO’s
Links
Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/podcastandnewsletter/
Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Dec 5, 2024 • 46min
Building Leadership Resilience in Today’s World
Leadership is facing a slow-motion train wreck. In this episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik break down why burnout is skyrocketing among senior leaders and why organizations are struggling to prepare their top talent for the challenges ahead. They explore the differences between learning and growth, draw stories from Harvard to West Point, and discuss why building leadership isn't about adding more knowledge but upgrading mindsets. If you're a leader that’s still "throwing up every day”, this one's for you!
#Leadership #Burnout #DoAndReflect #growth #EthicalLeadership
Chapters
1:50 The Crisis of Leadership
17:25 Learning vs. Growth in Leadership Development
30:18 Practical Steps for Growth
35:50 Headlines from the Future
Links
Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/podcastandnewsletter/
Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Nov 15, 2024 • 46min
Staying on the Right Side of History
In this episode of the Jump Podcast, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik discuss the challenge of keeping businesses on the “right side of history.” Through lively examples—from the decline of cigarette sales and the rise of cannabis to the shift toward healthier food choices—they explore how companies must anticipate societal changes rather than merely adapt to them. Michelle and Dev also share “headlines from the future,” covering groundbreaking innovations like air-to-food biotech and hurricane-resistant reefs. The conversation highlights the importance of foresight and adaptability for leaders aiming to future-proof their organizations.
In this episode of the Jump Podcast, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik dig into the importance of keeping companies on the “right side of history.” They explore how shifting social norms and cultural trends—like the decline of cigarette sales and the rising popularity of cannabis—demand that businesses rethink old models and take bold steps toward the future. From grocery aisles reflecting cultural evolution to the move to cashless payments, Michelle and Dev illustrate how staying relevant requires more than just a good product; it’s about understanding the bigger picture and adapting to meet society’s changing expectations… Get out of the warm bath and get on the right side of history.
#RightSideOfHistory #Cannabis #SustainableGrowth #FutureProof #Adaptation #ClimateChange
Chapters
2:27 The Decline in Tobacco
12:44 Being on the Right Side of History
26:20 Learning from Successful Companies
36:09 Headlines from the Future
Links
Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/podcastandnewsletter/
Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Nov 4, 2024 • 40min
Only the Paranoid Survive: Knowing Your Doomsday Scenario
In this episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik delve into the importance of knowing your business's “doomsday scenario.” They explore how companies like Google and Universal Music Group tackle their biggest existential threats, whether from AI disruption, regulatory pressures, or market changes. They reflect on the insights of industry leaders, including Andy Grove’s timeless mantra, “Only the paranoid survive,” and share practical ways businesses can avoid complacency. With a clear-eyed focus on potential risks, this episode is a powerful guide to staying resilient and proactive… so that the party never ends.
#DoomsdayScenarios #GoogleAntitrust #leadership #AI #SurviveAndThrive
Chapters
2:27 Understanding Doomsday Scenarios
12:44 The Role of Innovation in Crisis Management
24:47 Focusing on What Matters
30:31 Headlines from the Future
Headlines from the Future
A Climate Resistant Community Passed Two Hurricane Tests https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/15/climate/florida-climate-resilience-babcock-ranch.html#:~:text=All%20the%20structures%20at%20Babcock,the%20community%20rarely%20loses%20electricity.
Low-quality AI-generated Content is Flooding the Web, Overwhelming Social Networks, Search Engines, and Media Services. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/ai-generated-content-internet-online-slop-spam.html
Nasa Has Successfully Sent a Laser Signal About 290 Million Miles, Smashing Previous Records and Potentially Transforming Our Exploration of the Solar System. https://www.the-independent.com/space/nasa-laser-signal-message-psyche-spacecraft-b2629738.html
Links
Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/podcastandnewsletter/
Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.
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