

Jump Podcast
Jump Associates
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is a conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture, and leadership.
The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out how to avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener, things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out how to avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener, things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
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Jul 29, 2025 • 53min
Reinventing Financial Services: A Conversation with Anders Jones
Customer service may be stuck in the past, but finance doesn’t have to be. In this episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik talk with Anders Jones, CEO and co-founder of Facet, a fintech company shaking up the traditional wealth management model. Facet’s subscription-based service brings affordable, high-quality financial advice to the mass affluent—those with too much complexity for DIY but too little to interest legacy firms. Anders shares how his personal and professional journeys led to a new model of service delivery, how AI is augmenting (not replacing) the human advisor, and why success meant questioning industry norms like commission models and asset-based fees. The conversation dives deep into financial democratization, the gritty realities of cost structure innovation, and the surprising role moms played in sparking this movement. If you’ve ever felt like financial advice wasn’t made for people like you, this episode is for you.
#FutureOfFinance #FinTech #innovation #strategy #Disruption
Links
Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/podcastandnewsletter/
Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Jul 10, 2025 • 1h 4min
The Future of Entertainment: A Conversation with Diana Williams
In this episode of the Jump Podcast, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik sit down with Diana Williams, CEO of Kinetic Energy Entertainment, to talk about where stories are headed next. From Star Wars to immersive VR, Diana shares how the rules of media are being rewritten, from who owns the story to how fans shape it. It’s a conversation about creativity, control, and why the future of entertainment is kind of like growing out your bangs: messy, uncomfortable, and totally worth it.
#Entertainment #FilmAndMedia #Storytelling #FutureFocused
Links
Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/podcastandnewsletter/
Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Jun 26, 2025 • 48min
The Streaming Wars: How to Write a Winning Playbook
HBO is HBO again—but what does that really mean? In this episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik dive into the streaming wars, using HBO Max’s identity crisis as a masterclass in brand strategy. From dizzying rebrands to the pitfalls of copycatting Netflix, they unpack why rediscovering your DNA is key to long-term success. With lessons from Netflix, Apple TV, and Disney+, this episode is a playbook for future-focused leaders in any industry. Whether you're in media, retail, or airlines, the takeaway is clear: stand out, don’t blend in.
#Streaming #HBOMax #BrandStrategy #Netflix #Disruption
Links
Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/podcastandnewsletter/
Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Jun 13, 2025 • 53min
Sputnik to Stanford: Why Innovation Still Lives in Silicon Valley
Is Silicon Valley still the epicenter of innovation, or has the magic moved elsewhere? In this thought-provoking episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik revisit the 2020 exodus narrative and dissect what really happened to the Valley. They explore how proximity, culture, and infrastructure still fuel Silicon Valley’s innovation scene—even as remote work and tech layoffs reshape the landscape. From the birth of AI in San Francisco to the enduring power of Stanford, Sputnik, and shamelessness, the duo dives deep into what makes a true innovation hub. This one’s a masterclass in innovation ecosystems—past, present, and future.
#Innovation #SiliconValley #AI #VentureCapital #Stanford #Startups
Links
Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/podcastandnewsletter/
Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

May 30, 2025 • 43min
Wiser by Design: Evolving Leadership Mindsets
Smart is good. Wise is better. In this episode of The Jump Podcast, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik break down why today’s leaders need more than just intelligence to thrive, they need wisdom. They explore the difference between solving complicated versus ambiguous problems, why empathy and perspective are essential leadership tools, and how even titans like Elon Musk can falter without a deeper sense of judgment. From corporate burnout to Disney’s Snow White misstep, the conversation reveals how wisdom isn’t just about age or experience, it’s about seeing the whole board. And yes, there’s a robot or two.
#Wisdom #Leadership #AmbiguousProblems #EmotionalIntelligence #FutureFocused
Links
Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/podcastandnewsletter/
Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

May 16, 2025 • 39min
Winning Today While Building Tomorrow
How do you win today without tripping over tomorrow? In this episode of the Jump Podcast, Dev Patnaik and Michelle Loret de Mola explore what it really means to balance the now and the next. They spotlight companies like Microsoft, CVS, Walmart, Delta, and Visa—each showing how strategic infrastructure investments and boring-but-brilliant moves can solve today’s challenges while setting up for long-term success. Whether it’s cloud platforms, healthcare pivots, or free in-flight Wi-Fi, the key is building capabilities that keep options open for an uncertain future.
#FutureFocus #strategy #innovation
Links
Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/podcastandnewsletter/
Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

May 3, 2025 • 46min
Tariffs, Transparency, and the Art of Strategic Relationships
In this episode of the Jump Podcast, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik unpack the rollercoaster world of tariffs—and why your strategy might need more than a spreadsheet to survive it. As new policies throw global markets into chaos, the duo explores how the smartest leaders are tuning out the drama and zeroing in on what really matters: building rock-solid relationships. Whether it's navigating supplier negotiations that feel like hostage situations or using tariffs as a weirdly effective way to help your mom finally pick a computer, Dev and Michelle show how future-focused leadership is all about seeing the signals, not just the noise.
#FutureFocused #Tariffs #CustomerLoyalty #SupplierStrategy #GlobalUncertainty
Links
Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/podcastandnewsletter/
Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Apr 18, 2025 • 49min
Strategy: Not What, but When
What if the secret to smarter strategy isn’t what you’re doing—but when you’re doing it? In this episode of The Jump Podcast, Dev Patnaik and Michelle Loret de Mola dive into why timing might be the most underrated part of strategic thinking. From crisis mode to long-term vision, they break down how leaders can align their approach to the moment—whether you’re righting the ship, catching up to competitors, or inventing the future. Along the way, they unpack lessons from LEGO’s legendary turnaround, Netflix’s long game, and Microsoft’s three-horizon masterclass. Tune in—and if your mood ring’s glowing red, it might not be love… it might just be planning season.
Links
Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/podcastandnewsletter/
Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Apr 3, 2025 • 46min
Pivoting to the Future: A Conversation with Ross Rosenberg of Magic Leap
In this episode of the Jump Podcast, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik sit down with Ross Rosenberg, CEO of Magic Leap, to unpack the future of augmented reality and how a startup can outmaneuver tech giants. Ross shares Magic Leap’s evolution from consumer-focused AR to precision-driven B2B applications—like spinal surgery—and its bold pivot back toward consumer markets, now fueled by the rise of AI. The trio dives deep into the culture shift from “pioneering everything” to partnering smartly, and how defining the company’s true superpowers led to strategic clarity. It’s a powerful lesson in making hard choices, building abilities over assets, and embracing modularity for an uncertain future. Oh, and there’s quantum teleportation, naturally.
#AugmentedReality #MagicLeap #FutureFocused #AR #Leadership #Strategy
Links
Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/podcastandnewsletter/
Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Mar 21, 2025 • 46min
DEI Is Dead: Get Ready for Diversity
In this episode of The Jump Podcast, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik dive headfirst into the DEI discussionand why so many companies are getting it wrong. From major brands walking back diversity initiatives to activist investors applying pressure, the duo unpacks what’s performative, what’s purposeful, and what actually drives business success. They spotlight smart strategies from companies like Costco, Apple, and Diageo, and challenge the false meritocracy narratives that have crept back into corporate culture. If you're trying to figure out how to build a workforce that reflects the future—not the past—this one’s a must-listen.
#DEI #Leadership #WorkplaceInclusion #BusinessStrategy #CorporateCulture
Links
Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/podcastandnewsletter/
Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.