

Destination Marketing Podcast
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The Destination Marketing Podcast is built for tourism marketers across the country who are overworked and understaffed. Our goal is to help these people prioritize the activities that are proven to be most effective in marketing a destination and stay up to date on the latest technologies and trends in the industry. This isn’t a feel-good, motivational podcast. We’re diving deep into what to do and how to do it. Subscribe today if you’re a tourism marketer and want to perfect your craft.
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Jun 2, 2020 • 48min
67: What Destination Marketers Need To Know Today with Nicole Mahoney
In this episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast, Nicole Mahoney, host of Destination on the Left Podcast and CEO at Break The Ice Media, joins us to discuss some of the ways that she and her team have approached the current tourism economy situation. Topics include strategic innovation during this time of uncertainty, as well as how collaboration is key to a successful recovery campaign.
"We are leaning in as a team at my agency into a forward-thinking mindset. It's the difference between being a short term finite thinker, versus a long term forward infinite thinker. I think that that mindset is the key." -Nicole Mahoney on the importance of keeping a forward-thinking mindset during this time of uncertainty in the travel and tourism industry.
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May 26, 2020 • 40min
66: Durango's Recovery Plan with Rachel Brown
Rachel Brown, executive director of Visit Durango, joins The Destination Marketing Podcast to discuss some of the ways that her destination has reformed to fit the needs of the current Covid-19 situation. Topics include taking advantage of technology, strategically moving forward in a time of unpredictability, as well as how to keep an attitude of patience when the current global view towards travel leans on the negative side.
"I think patience right now is valuable in a lot of ways. People are pretty stressed out right now and it's good to be patient. Remember to take care of each other and take care of your community. Be understanding." -Rachel Brown on the importance of patience during the Covid-19 pandemic
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May 19, 2020 • 37min
65: A Tour Operator's Point of View with Kylie Chenn
Kylie Chenn, founder & CEO at Acanela Expeditions, joins The Destination Marketing Podcast to provide the unique perspective of a tour operator on the destination marketing industry. Kylie shares her journey with international travel and tour operating, as well as what her company is doing while travel is banned during the coronavirus crisis to not only keep people interested in travel, but also to support the people she works with throughout the world.
"We have team members all around the world, whether they're contract, whether we fully employ them, that are not working right now. There's no inbound travel to their countries. We really had to think strategically about how to bring business to them in a time where we can't bring people." -Kylie Chenn on supporting her international partners during the Covid-19 travel restrictions.
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

May 12, 2020 • 42min
64: The Coronavirus in Liverpool with Stefan Price
Stefan Price from Liverpool, England, joins The Destination Marketing Podcast to offer a new perspective on the Coronavirus Pandemic situation. Topics include how the pandemic has affected the tourism industry on a global scale, as well as how Liverpool is planning and preparing their recovery campaigns.
"I think the short term goal is making sure that businesses, especially in the visitor economy, can survive during this period. I think it's our job to make sure that we support those businesses and our partners to keep going and make sure that we do everything we can." -Stefan Price on the importance of supporting the visitor economy during the coronavirus pandemic.
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

May 5, 2020 • 35min
63: When You Share an Attraction with Other DMO's with Rhonda Salisbury
Rhonda Salisbury, CEO of Visit Yosemite and Madera County, joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to discuss some of her marketing strategies and how her destination has approached marketing during the Covid-19 pandemic. Topics include marketing a destination that shares an attraction with other DMO's, as well as Madera County's illustrated Welcoming Committee campaign and how it has benefited her destination.
"You can really drill into your different uniqueness, but in any destination, you can find something very unique and you yourself fall in love with it over and over again." -Rhonda Salisbury on using unique strategies to market your destination.
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Apr 30, 2020 • 36min
62: Public Relations is Critical at a Time Like This with Christina Lenkowski
Public Relations expert Christina Lenkowski joins The Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about the importance of media and publicity when it comes to destination marketing during the coronavirus pandemic. Topics include tips for making contact with the press, as well as strategies to increase your destination's media coverage. Listen to hear some of her tips and tricks on how to optimize your PR strategy.
"For rural tourism and rural tourism operators, this is the time to be talking about your destination. People want to replace air travel with road trips and they want to go to places that aren't crowded. You have the ideal opportunity to bring people to your location." -Christina Lenkowski on the importance of media coverage for rural destinations during the coronavirus pandemic.
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Apr 28, 2020 • 38min
61: How Crowd Riff is Approaching the Coronavirus Situation with Amrita Gurney
Amrita Gurney from Crowd Riff returns to the Destination Marketing Podcast to discuss some of the ways her company has been tackling the challenges presented by the Covid-19 pandemic. Topics include the importance of supporting the locals of our respective destinations, as well as how Crowd Riff's new tool Localhood can assist communities and businesses during this challenging time.
"I really feel like this is an opportunity for DMO's to really showcase how they are stewards of their destination and in doing so, really cement their value and hopefully be seen as not just something for visitors to pay attention to, but something that locals can also really trust." -Amrita Gurney on the importance of leadership in the destination marketing industry.
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The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.
To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Apr 21, 2020 • 50min
60: Arrivalist's Daily Travel Index For COVID-19 with Matt Clement
Matt Clement from Arrivalist joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to further discuss some of the effects of the coronavirus pandemic on the destination marketing and tourism industry. Adam and Matt discuss Arrivalist's Daily Travel Index tool and how it might be useful to destination marketers during this time.
"I think this is a real opportunity to re-emphasize the importance of all visitation, not just the cherry-picking visitation, the high-end visitor. Those will still be important but I think for the next 12-24 months, any visitation is going to be important." -Matt Clement on the importance of recognizing the value in all visitation during the coronavirus pandemic.
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Apr 20, 2020 • 39min
59: The New Normal with Will Seccombe
In this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, Will Seccombe from Connect Travel returns to discuss how the worldwide Covid-19 pandemic will affect the travel industry for decades to come. Adam and Will discuss strategies to adjust and adapt to the new normal brought on by this historic event.
"My biggest concern is that this crisis is not like the others. We can’t as an industry, or as individual destination marketing organizations, as individual communities, respond like we’ve responded to all past crises because the world has changed. This is an unprecedented event and really, a life event.” -Will Seccombe on the profound impact of the coronavirus on the travel industry.
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Apr 14, 2020 • 39min
58: Rockin the Suburbs with Ed Harris
Ed Harris of Valley Forge in Montgomery County Pennsylvania, joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about some of the creative approaches he and his team have taken with their marketing strategy, especially during the coronavirus pandemic. Topics include some of their nonconventional marketing approaches such as their comic book and mascot, as well as how they are able to still provide valuable resources to members while the park is closed.
“As a marketer during the coronavirus period, it's definitely challenging. Everything shifts from trying to attract visitors to leveraging our voice for the community. We are still marketing, it's just different messaging right now."
-Ed Harris on marketing during the coronavirus pandemic
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The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.
To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.


