
Destination Marketing Podcast
The Destination Marketing Podcast is built for tourism marketers across the country who are overworked and understaffed. Our goal is to help these people prioritize the activities that are proven to be most effective in marketing a destination and stay up to date on the latest technologies and trends in the industry. This isn’t a feel-good, motivational podcast. We’re diving deep into what to do and how to do it. Subscribe today if you’re a tourism marketer and want to perfect your craft.
Latest episodes

Feb 11, 2020 • 46min
41: Dealing With A Sudden Tourism Change with Carla Pendergraft
Carla Pendergraft, Director of Marketing at Waco, Texas, joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about dealing with a sudden tourism change. Topics include the impact of Fixer Upper and Chip and Joanna Gaines, catching up with an influx of visitors, and how Waco has benefitted from those new visitors.
"The main thing that they help us with is they talk about their love of Waco and convey that to the world. Because of that, people have come to this town and really see it as a tourist destination. Maybe even the most important thing is that locals are starting to look at their town in a more positive way too". - Carla Pendergraft on the impact of Chip and Joanna Gaines on Waco.
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The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.
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Feb 4, 2020 • 53min
40: Talk With An Industry Titan with Bill Geist
Bill Geist from DMOproz (and host of the DMOU Podcast) joins the Destination Marketing Podcast. Topics discussed include his experience in Madison, Wisconsin, Destinations International, and his vision of the future of Destination Marketing.
"The political side is crucial because we have to figure out how public money can match up with private money so that we can make the case that this is a great place for quality of life, entrepreneurs, and yeah - visitors" - Bill Geist on the expanding role of Destination Marketers in the public eye.
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Jan 28, 2020 • 40min
39: Marketing An Icon of Americana with Chris Pokorski
Chris Pokorski, Manager of Community Relations for the Detroit Metro Convention & Visitors Bureau, joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about marketing an icon of America. Topics discussed include past and current campaigns, building a great partnership with Travel Michigan, and using digital marketing to help identify personas.
"When it comes down to it, people make your destination. And that's what has really helped Detroit turn around, come back, and move forward is the people here being so passionate." - Chris Pokorski on understanding your key assets
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Jan 21, 2020 • 43min
38: Tourism Master Plans with Jonathan Freeze
Jonathan Freeze, Director of Marketing and Communications at the Greater Raleigh Convention and Visitors Bureau joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk Tourism Master Plans. Topics include the process of creating a master plan, selecting a partner for such a plan, and rolling out the plan to your stakeholders.
"Be sure to make it a county or a destination wide plan and not just a CVB plan...I think with the comprehensive level of the things that will be talked about in the final report there has to be more organizations involved than just the CVB" -Jonathan Freeze on things to consider in a Tourism Master Plan.
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Jan 14, 2020 • 43min
37: Cultural Heritage Tourism with Stephanie Jones
Stephanie Jones, Founder & CEO of the Cultural Heritage Alliance for Tourism, joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk cultural heritage tourism. Topics discussed include tapping into cultural heritage tourism, understanding if your destination has a market for cultural heritage tourism, and the benefits of such tourism.
"Through our tours, we change a lot of those negative perceptions about heritage neighborhoods or under served communities because people now have walked the community and they've interacted with the locals so they know 'Oh I could come back here on my own and have dinner at this restaurant', and oftentimes, many people do" - Stephanie Jones on the benefits of cultural heritage tourism.
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Jan 7, 2020 • 34min
36: Technology Highlight: Simplifi with Josh Scheer
Josh Scheer, Digital Marketing Director at Relic, joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about Simpli.fi, a localized programmatic display advertising platform. Topics include using Simpli.fi for advanced Geo-targeting and Geo-fencing in tourism marketing, use cases of such targeting, and how it differs from other display ad methods.
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The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.
To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Dec 31, 2019 • 29min
35: Every Destination Marketer’s New Year’s Resolutions
As the new year begins, Adam Stoker lays out some New Year's resolutions for destination marketers. Topics include updating technologies, evaluating customer experience, and honing in your target personas.
"I want you to give each touchpoint within your destination a letter grade...give yourself a letter grade and the goal is collectively with all your touchpoints to raise your grade one letter grade". -Adam Stoker on evaluating your touchpoints for 2020.
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Dec 24, 2019 • 40min
34: The World’s Best Cities with Chris Fair
Chris Fair, President & CEO of Resonance, joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about the World's Best Cities and premier the new list. Topics discussed include the methodology for the World's Best Cities rankings, the core six categories, and focusing on the customer experience in your destination.
"We tend to think 'more is better'. We've been conditioned to attracting more visitors, and all the metrics by which we're generally judged are quantitative. I think there's a real lack of understanding or appreciation for the qualitative side of the destination side. I think to date, we would all agree the customer experience or the visitor experience is important, but we don't know how to measure it. And that's really what we're trying to address here." - Chris Fair on focusing on other factors than just the quantitative side of things.
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Dec 17, 2019 • 39min
33: Planning Your Traditional Media with Sasha Jackson
Sasha Jackson, Media Director at Relic, joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk planning traditional media. Topics include the role of print in the traditional media landscape, buying for tourism clients, and current trends in the TV/Streaming landscape.
"You're already investing in traditional media- do it right and invest enough so it is profitable. Even if you are investing but it's a smaller amount and your frequency is low, I don't think it's going to benefit you like you would want it to. So choose one if you have to, but do it right" - Sasha Jackson on planning good media buys.
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Dec 10, 2019 • 43min
32: The Importance of Continuous Learning with Will Seccombe
Will Seccombe, President and CEO of Connect Travel, joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about the importance of continuous learning. Topics discussed include changes Will has seen over the decades he's been in the industry, evolving as the times change, and the marketplace format at Connect Travel conferences.
"We're at a place in time where the successful programs of just a few years ago are no longer going to be relevant in the next 3 to 5 years. So if I can help all destination marketers think that way and work that way and learn from each other as they're exploring and coming up with new ideas, we'll all be better off". - Will Seccombe on the importance of constantly innovating in tourism marketing.
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The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.
To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.