

Destination Marketing Podcast
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The Destination Marketing Podcast is built for tourism marketers across the country who are overworked and understaffed. Our goal is to help these people prioritize the activities that are proven to be most effective in marketing a destination and stay up to date on the latest technologies and trends in the industry. This isn’t a feel-good, motivational podcast. We’re diving deep into what to do and how to do it. Subscribe today if you’re a tourism marketer and want to perfect your craft.
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Nov 23, 2020 • 36min
107: Interesting Analytics in the Industry with Camden Bernatz
In this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, Camden Bernatz, Digital Marketing and SEO Specialist at Relic, joins us to discuss some of his research into travel sentiment during the Covid-19 pandemic. Listen to hear some of his findings, including how the younger generation's attitude towards travel has changed in recent months.
"In tourism, every destination is simultaneously competing with one another, but also not because next summer they could come to your place, or they could pick a trip after the next one to come to yours. It's interesting because you're always available, you always have a potential audience, but it's when things like this that really make people think about travel in a new way. What are you doing as a destination to put yourself in people's minds in that way?" -Camden Bernatz
Click here to connect with Camden on Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/camden-bernatz/
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Nov 18, 2020 • 6min
106: An Exciting Announcement from Relic
In this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam jumps on to share an exciting announcement from Relic. At the beginning of November, Relic acquired EKR, another advertising agency in Provo Utah. Listen to learn how this acquisition will expand Relic's services, and help us to further fulfill our clients' needs.
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Nov 17, 2020 • 57min
105: Incentive Travel Opportunities for Destinations in 2020
In this special episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam is a guest on SITE's Armchair Conversations Webinar. Hosted by Tahira Endean, head of events at SITE, this episode follows their discussion about Adam's background in advertising, his book "Touchpoints", as well as some of his insights on the travel industry as a whole. Listen to learn more about incentive travel programs, and how destinations can use them to their advantage.
"In incentive travel, we are creating an opportunity for them to have one of the major pillar experiences of their lives. The responsibility that comes along with that is really heavy as well, but that's what I love about the industry. It's such a special opportunity to impact the lives of the travelers that are going to come to the destination."
Learn more about SITE here: https://www.siteglobal.com/
Get "Touchpoints - A Destination Marketer's Guide to Brand Evaluation and Enhancement" here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0863QDC1J/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_a-URFbC50B84D
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Nov 10, 2020 • 38min
104: When The Pandemic Causes a Major Audience Shift with Michael Hensley
Michael Hensley, the Travel Marketing Manager at Go Great Lakes Bay CVB, joins this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about how the pandemic has caused a shift in his destination's target market. Listen to learn how the Great Lakes Bay area has navigated this shift, as well as some of the strategies they've used to navigate not only the pandemic but also the major flood that hit Midland, Michigan in May 2020.
"When you look at destination marketing organizations, yes they're there to provide a great experience for their visitors, but they're also there to advocate outside of that area for their residents." -Michael Hensley
Great Lakes Bay
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Nov 3, 2020 • 15min
103: Why Your Destination Needs A Podcast
In this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam breaks down all of the reasons why every destination needs to have their own podcast. Listen to learn how destination-specific podcasts can be important tools for not only tourism but also economic development and stakeholder engagement.
"The thing that younger audiences love, is the ability to consume content in a passive way. When you're sitting at your computer or you're on your phone, you are only able to consume the content by reading through it. For those that have the busy lives of today, it slows down their life by having to sit and consume that media. What a podcast does, is allow that content consumption to move from an active format to a passive format." -Adam Stoker on the transition from active to passive content consumption
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Oct 30, 2020 • 55min
102: Attribution and Data with Matt Clement
In this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, Matt Clement from Arrivalist joins us to discuss the ever-expanding field of attribution and data in destination marketing. Topics include handling attribution in the tourism industry, balancing brand awareness and last-click attribution, as well as some details about Arrivalist and how it can be useful to destination marketers.
“I mentioned this is the golden age of having data available, and that is true. We have never had so much available to us as destination marketers, but we have to be careful. You have to be prudent.” – Matt Clement on the importance of being careful with the data that we have access to.
To check out Arrivalist, click here
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Oct 28, 2020 • 43min
101: When a Historic Event Gets Rescheduled with Eleanor Prater
Eleanor Prater, Marketing & Communications Manager at the Augusta Convention & Visitors Bureau, joins this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about how her destination was able to reschedule the historic Masters Golf tournament that takes place in Augusta every year. Listen to learn about how this major event reschedule has affected tourism over the past several months, as well as some of the strategies that her team is using to help promote their destination to other target personas.
"Seeing people emerge from a crisis and take everyone else under their wing — all those phenomenal stories of this country and the world coming together to make it out of this — really hits home for me." -Eleanor Prater
To learn more about Augusta Georgia, click here
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Oct 26, 2020 • 8min
100: 100 Episodes - Can you believe it?
In this special episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam gives a quick recap of the show's history as well as a thank you to all the guests and listeners of the show so far. Listen to learn some exciting things that are coming for the Destination Marketing Podcast and help us celebrate this exciting milestone.
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Oct 23, 2020 • 43min
99: One of My Personal Favorite Destinations with Kim Bumpas
In this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam catches up with one of his personal favorite destinations: Knoxville, Tennessee. Kim Bumpas, President at Visit Knoxville, joins the show to talk all about the importance of the visitor experience and why maintaining a unified front as a destination is so important. Listen and learn how to achieve this cohesiveness as well as hear about some of Knoxville's strategies to attain this goal.
"You've got to prove to your stakeholders, city, and county that you're in it just as much as they are, and you're not just here to depend on hotel tax collections, but you're here to contribute as well." -Kim Bumpas
Click here to learn more about Visit Knoxville
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Oct 21, 2020 • 43min
98: The Hottest Data Resource In Tourism with Darren Dunn
Darren Dunn, President at Entrada Insights Inc., joins this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk all about one of the up and coming data companies in the tourism industry. Listen and learn how Entrada is revolutionizing the way that destinations view data on their visitors and learn how it might be helpful in your destination.
"If we can't humanize the data, destinations aren't going to understand it and they're not going to be able to tell stories with it. Bringing this together is going to be healthy for the destination industry and for me, it's rewarding because it's allowing me to help destinations tell amazing stories and figure out not only what to do, but more importantly right now what not to do." -Darren Dunn
Click here to learn more about Entrada Insights Inc.
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The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.
To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.


