

Destination Marketing Podcast
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The Destination Marketing Podcast is built for tourism marketers across the country who are overworked and understaffed. Our goal is to help these people prioritize the activities that are proven to be most effective in marketing a destination and stay up to date on the latest technologies and trends in the industry. This isn’t a feel-good, motivational podcast. We’re diving deep into what to do and how to do it. Subscribe today if you’re a tourism marketer and want to perfect your craft.
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Jan 26, 2021 • 42min
117: Training For Your Front Line Workers with Phil Bruno
Phil Bruno, President of Treat Em' Right, joins this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about how his company is helping DMO's and stakeholders learn the importance of delivering on your brand's promise. Listen to learn ways to improve your customer's experience, as well as how the Treat Em' Right process is helping front line tourism workers across the country.
"To me, service is the things we do and hospitality is the way we make people feel as we do those things. I think it's a big mistake to believe that guest expectations have lowered and therefore we could lower our level of hospitality." -Phil Bruno
Treat Em' Right: https://treatemright.com/
Connect with Phil: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philbruno/
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The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.
To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Jan 19, 2021 • 42min
116: Making A Career Move To Start 2021 with Candace Carr Strauss
Candace Carr Strauss, CEO of the Big Sky Chamber of Commerce, joins this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about how Big Sky, Montana has focused on growth over the past several years, as well as how she will be making a career shift in the next couple of months. Listen to hear some of her highlights of working in Big Sky, as well as what she's looking forward to in her new career path.
"Don't shy away from planning; however, with that plan, don't be rigid. You have to be flexible and willing to listen because we don't operate in a vacuum. We're not a consumer product that's manufactured and sits on a shelf. Our destination and our communities are living and breathing entities and things change on a daily basis." -Candace Carr Strauss on the importance of flexibility in planning
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Jan 12, 2021 • 33min
115: Looking Ahead to 2021 In Wilkesboro, NC with Thomas Salley
Thomas Salley, Director of the Wilkesboro Tourism Development Authority, joins this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about what it's like to run a small DMO. Listen to learn about how his destination has navigated this turbulent year, as well as how an increased focus on content creation has helped his destination prepare for the future.
"We've got breweries, we've got wineries, we've got mountain biking trails, but so does everybody else. What they don't have, is the unique people and the unique stories that come with those people — why they're here, how they landed here, and what they think is special about the community. Those are things that you can't replicate at other destinations. Those are the kind of stories that we try to tell." -Thomas Salley
Visit Wilkesboro: https://www.wilkesboronc.org/
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Jan 5, 2021 • 43min
114: Bandwango - Growth During a Pandemic
Mo Parikh and Emilie Harris from Bandwango join this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk all about some of the ways that Covid has affected their business. Listen to learn about their Destination Experience Marketing platform and how to best utilize it in your destination.
"Locals are your best ambassadors and they provide the best bang for your buck. If we can empower locals to experience the destination and to hook them up in different ways, who better to market your destination for you than the residents that live there." -Mo Parikh on the importance of including locals in your target market.
Connect with Mo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/monirparikh/
Connect with Emilie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emilie-harris/
Check out Bandwango: https://bandwango.com/
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Jan 1, 2021 • 32min
113: 2021 Resolutions for Every Destination
In this episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam reflects on some of the things that he's learned this year. Listen to learn some of his insights on how the industry has changed in 2020 and what destinations can do during 2021 to continue the recovery process.
"Are you just sitting on the destination that you have, or are you focusing on destination development to help your destination grow as time goes on and building for the future?" -Adam Stoker
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Dec 29, 2020 • 20min
112: Meet the Voice Behind the Scenes with Julie Ackerson
In this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, we are joined by Julie Ackerson, Relic's podcast producer. Listen to get a sneak peek of what it's like to work on the Destination Marketing Podcast, and hear some of her insights on both the audio industry, as well as the Destination Marketing industry.
Connect with Julie:
julie@relicagency.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/julieackerson/
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Dec 22, 2020 • 41min
111: Brand Therapy with James Gibson
James Gibson, one of Relic's creative directors, joins this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk all about some of the illustrated campaigns that he's worked on, as well as strategies for helping destinations discover their brand identity. Listen to learn more about how you can apply these ideas to your own destination.
"If your brand or destination is feeling like you're having a hard time standing out from the rest of the crowd, our mantra is to do what everyone else is not doing." -James Gibson
Dinosaurland: The Origin of Adventure - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ycx_IQ3fSqo
The Madera County Welcoming Committee - https://www.yosemitethisyear.com/welcoming-committee
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The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.
To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Dec 15, 2020 • 39min
110: Creating Events Within Your Destination with Matt Hawkins
Matt Hawkins, director of sports and market development at Bloomington-Normal Area Convention & Visitors Bureau, joins The Destination Marketing Podcast to discuss some of the ways that his destination has been able to create their own sporting events. Adam and Matt discuss a few of these events in greater detail and Matt gives advice to destinations wanting to create similar events.
"If you have an idea that you think you could probably tackle, then go for it. If your board or director is on board with it, or even if they're not, give them the reasons why you think it would be successful and why you think you should tackle it." -Matt Hawkins on creating your own events
To learn more about Bloomington-Normal click here
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Dec 8, 2020 • 51min
109: Shifting Your Brand Positioning When Culture, Shopping, Dining, & Fun for the Whole Family Disappear
In this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam is a panel host on Connect Travel's eTourism Summit. He is joined by Ali Daniels, Matt Borud, and Alison Schult, three experts in the tourism marketing industry. Listen to hear about some of their recovery campaigns, as well as some of their experiences navigating the current global travel crisis.
Watch the livestream here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDF62R7rfZw
Ali Daniels: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alihummels/
Matt Borud: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattborud/
Allison Schult: https://www.linkedin.com/in/allisonschult/
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Dec 1, 2020 • 40min
108: How to Win in Recovery with Nick Breedlove
In this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, Nick Breedlove, executive director at Jackson County Tourism, joins us to talk about some of the things that his destination has been doing in light of the recent Covid-19 pandemic. Listen to learn some of his tips and tricks, as well as how his destination was able to break records, despite being in the middle of one of the biggest crises that the tourism industry has ever seen.
"Sometimes as leaders, we wait for perfection. We wait for something to align perfectly before we do it. Sometimes, it's just getting out there and doing something. It may not be perfect, but people would rather you get out there and do something rather than waiting for it to potentially never materialize." -Nick Breedlove
Check out Jackson County, North Carolina here: https://www.discoverjacksonnc.com/
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The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.
To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.


