
Destination Marketing Podcast
The Destination Marketing Podcast is built for tourism marketers across the country who are overworked and understaffed. Our goal is to help these people prioritize the activities that are proven to be most effective in marketing a destination and stay up to date on the latest technologies and trends in the industry. This isn’t a feel-good, motivational podcast. We’re diving deep into what to do and how to do it. Subscribe today if you’re a tourism marketer and want to perfect your craft.
Latest episodes

Dec 15, 2020 • 39min
110: Creating Events Within Your Destination with Matt Hawkins
Matt Hawkins, director of sports and market development at Bloomington-Normal Area Convention & Visitors Bureau, joins The Destination Marketing Podcast to discuss some of the ways that his destination has been able to create their own sporting events. Adam and Matt discuss a few of these events in greater detail and Matt gives advice to destinations wanting to create similar events.
"If you have an idea that you think you could probably tackle, then go for it. If your board or director is on board with it, or even if they're not, give them the reasons why you think it would be successful and why you think you should tackle it." -Matt Hawkins on creating your own events
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Dec 8, 2020 • 51min
109: Shifting Your Brand Positioning When Culture, Shopping, Dining, & Fun for the Whole Family Disappear
In this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam is a panel host on Connect Travel's eTourism Summit. He is joined by Ali Daniels, Matt Borud, and Alison Schult, three experts in the tourism marketing industry. Listen to hear about some of their recovery campaigns, as well as some of their experiences navigating the current global travel crisis.
Watch the livestream here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDF62R7rfZw
Ali Daniels: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alihummels/
Matt Borud: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattborud/
Allison Schult: https://www.linkedin.com/in/allisonschult/
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Dec 1, 2020 • 40min
108: How to Win in Recovery with Nick Breedlove
In this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, Nick Breedlove, executive director at Jackson County Tourism, joins us to talk about some of the things that his destination has been doing in light of the recent Covid-19 pandemic. Listen to learn some of his tips and tricks, as well as how his destination was able to break records, despite being in the middle of one of the biggest crises that the tourism industry has ever seen.
"Sometimes as leaders, we wait for perfection. We wait for something to align perfectly before we do it. Sometimes, it's just getting out there and doing something. It may not be perfect, but people would rather you get out there and do something rather than waiting for it to potentially never materialize." -Nick Breedlove
Check out Jackson County, North Carolina here: https://www.discoverjacksonnc.com/
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Nov 23, 2020 • 36min
107: Interesting Analytics in the Industry with Camden Bernatz
In this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, Camden Bernatz, Digital Marketing and SEO Specialist at Relic, joins us to discuss some of his research into travel sentiment during the Covid-19 pandemic. Listen to hear some of his findings, including how the younger generation's attitude towards travel has changed in recent months.
"In tourism, every destination is simultaneously competing with one another, but also not because next summer they could come to your place, or they could pick a trip after the next one to come to yours. It's interesting because you're always available, you always have a potential audience, but it's when things like this that really make people think about travel in a new way. What are you doing as a destination to put yourself in people's minds in that way?" -Camden Bernatz
Click here to connect with Camden on Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/camden-bernatz/
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Nov 18, 2020 • 6min
106: An Exciting Announcement from Relic
In this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam jumps on to share an exciting announcement from Relic. At the beginning of November, Relic acquired EKR, another advertising agency in Provo Utah. Listen to learn how this acquisition will expand Relic's services, and help us to further fulfill our clients' needs.
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Nov 17, 2020 • 57min
105: Incentive Travel Opportunities for Destinations in 2020
In this special episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam is a guest on SITE's Armchair Conversations Webinar. Hosted by Tahira Endean, head of events at SITE, this episode follows their discussion about Adam's background in advertising, his book "Touchpoints", as well as some of his insights on the travel industry as a whole. Listen to learn more about incentive travel programs, and how destinations can use them to their advantage.
"In incentive travel, we are creating an opportunity for them to have one of the major pillar experiences of their lives. The responsibility that comes along with that is really heavy as well, but that's what I love about the industry. It's such a special opportunity to impact the lives of the travelers that are going to come to the destination."
Learn more about SITE here: https://www.siteglobal.com/
Get "Touchpoints - A Destination Marketer's Guide to Brand Evaluation and Enhancement" here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0863QDC1J/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_a-URFbC50B84D
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Nov 10, 2020 • 38min
104: When The Pandemic Causes a Major Audience Shift with Michael Hensley
Michael Hensley, the Travel Marketing Manager at Go Great Lakes Bay CVB, joins this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about how the pandemic has caused a shift in his destination's target market. Listen to learn how the Great Lakes Bay area has navigated this shift, as well as some of the strategies they've used to navigate not only the pandemic but also the major flood that hit Midland, Michigan in May 2020.
"When you look at destination marketing organizations, yes they're there to provide a great experience for their visitors, but they're also there to advocate outside of that area for their residents." -Michael Hensley
Great Lakes Bay
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Nov 3, 2020 • 15min
103: Why Your Destination Needs A Podcast
In this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam breaks down all of the reasons why every destination needs to have their own podcast. Listen to learn how destination-specific podcasts can be important tools for not only tourism but also economic development and stakeholder engagement.
"The thing that younger audiences love, is the ability to consume content in a passive way. When you're sitting at your computer or you're on your phone, you are only able to consume the content by reading through it. For those that have the busy lives of today, it slows down their life by having to sit and consume that media. What a podcast does, is allow that content consumption to move from an active format to a passive format." -Adam Stoker on the transition from active to passive content consumption
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Oct 30, 2020 • 55min
102: Attribution and Data with Matt Clement
In this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, Matt Clement from Arrivalist joins us to discuss the ever-expanding field of attribution and data in destination marketing. Topics include handling attribution in the tourism industry, balancing brand awareness and last-click attribution, as well as some details about Arrivalist and how it can be useful to destination marketers.
“I mentioned this is the golden age of having data available, and that is true. We have never had so much available to us as destination marketers, but we have to be careful. You have to be prudent.” – Matt Clement on the importance of being careful with the data that we have access to.
To check out Arrivalist, click here
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Oct 28, 2020 • 43min
101: When a Historic Event Gets Rescheduled with Eleanor Prater
Eleanor Prater, Marketing & Communications Manager at the Augusta Convention & Visitors Bureau, joins this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about how her destination was able to reschedule the historic Masters Golf tournament that takes place in Augusta every year. Listen to learn about how this major event reschedule has affected tourism over the past several months, as well as some of the strategies that her team is using to help promote their destination to other target personas.
"Seeing people emerge from a crisis and take everyone else under their wing — all those phenomenal stories of this country and the world coming together to make it out of this — really hits home for me." -Eleanor Prater
To learn more about Augusta Georgia, click here
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.