

Destination Marketing Podcast
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The Destination Marketing Podcast is built for tourism marketers across the country who are overworked and understaffed. Our goal is to help these people prioritize the activities that are proven to be most effective in marketing a destination and stay up to date on the latest technologies and trends in the industry. This isn’t a feel-good, motivational podcast. We’re diving deep into what to do and how to do it. Subscribe today if you’re a tourism marketer and want to perfect your craft.
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Jan 16, 2024 • 39min
296: The State of The Tourism Industry
Adam continues his conversation with the Utah Tourism Collective in this week’s episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, diving into some of the things that will have a major impact on tourism this year. They discuss how AI has changed the world and why destinations need to learn how to use it. They also talk about why taking risks is critical and how industry vendors play a key role in moving innovation forward.
Zartico
Relic
Ripe
Spontigo
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Jan 9, 2024 • 33min
295: What’s New in Destination Marketing 2024: Updates from Zartico, Relic, Ripe, and Spontigo
In this episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam joins together with three other members of the Utah Tourism Collective: Darren Dunn from Zartico, Jason Linder from Ripe, and Lauren Neeleman from Spontigo. They each provide an update on their organization and what they expect to come from the industry in 2024. Listen to learn about Zartico’s new data acquisition and how Spontigo is making waves as one of the new software offerings in the tourism industry.ZarticoRelicRipeSpontigo If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@relicagency.com.

Jan 1, 2024 • 21min
294: 2024 Resolutions for Destination Marketers
With the rise of AI and the importance of owning an audience changing the game as we head into 2024, Adam shares his top resolutions to help destination marketers be successful in the year ahead. He advises all to create high-quality content and utilize the power of the tools available to you. He also shares his thoughts on where the industry is headed compared to where we've been in the past.
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Dec 26, 2023 • 42min
293: Driving Innovation with Shawn Kanungo
In our last episode of 2023, Adam welcomes globally recognized innovation strategist and bestselling author Shawn Kanungo to the show. Shawn emphasizes that innovation is not solely about technology but involves thinking differently and reframing problems. They discuss the challenges in destination marketing, the importance of authentic content, and effective presentation skills.
"Innovation doesn't have to be hard. In fact, it doesn't have to be about technology. It's about thinking differently. And the more that you can reframe, the more that you can step back and look at a problem in a fundamentally new way, that's how innovators work. I really want to dispel the idea and the myths around innovation, and if I can get people to see those three things, that means I did my job." -Shawn Kanungo
Shawn Kanungo
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Dec 19, 2023 • 23min
292: Maximizing the Impact of Your Tourism Assets with Kristi Baughman
In this episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam takes the show on the road to the Idaho Conference on Recreation and Tourism. Kristi Baughman, marketing consultant at Yellowstone Teton Territory, joins Adam to talk about what it’s like marketing a destination with such a large quantity of assets and why it’s critical to listen to what’s happening within the smaller areas of the destination. Adam also shares his connection with the region and why it holds such special memories for him.
“Don’t be afraid to reach people where they are. Don’t fall prey to marketing trends. It does not mean that those aren’t successful in one area, but your traveler is going to be attracted to your destination for a variety of different reasons and it may not always be the area that you think.” -Kristi Baughman
Yellowstone Teton Territory
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Dec 12, 2023 • 31min
291: Why Podcasting Has Been a Game Changer with Robb Wells
In this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, Rob Wells is back to talk about how The Inner Coastal Podcast has changed the game for his destination, Beaufort, South Carolina. They discuss how he’s utilized the podcast content for various functions and how it’s played a pivotal role in his relationship with his stakeholders.
“We want the visitor experience to be greater than or equal to the visitor expectation. When we’re talking on the podcast, we rarely bring on guests who cannot deliver on the experience when a visitor gets in town.” -Robb Wells
Other Episodes with Robb:
Utilizing Your Podcast in Your PR Efforts
Telling Your Destination's Story
Robb Wells Explains What a Podcast Has Done for His Destination
Standing Out From The Competition
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Dec 8, 2023 • 37min
290: Sustainable Marketing Strategies for DMOs with Jared Price
On this week's episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam sits down with JP, the Director of Business Development at Relic. They dive deep into the current state of the destination marketing atmosphere and discuss why a paid media strategy may not be the most sustainable approach to driving visitation. Additionally, they explore the significance of owned media as a fundamental pillar in every marketing plan to combat the declining effectiveness of paid media.
“Don’t be shy about telling the stories that you believe in, and don’t let somebody else tell that story. Own it.” -Jared Price
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Dec 5, 2023 • 44min
289: Creating an Amazing Visitor Experience: An Inside Look at Nemacolin
Join Christopher Baran and Trey Matheu from Nemacolin as they discuss creating an amazing visitor experience at the luxurious resort. From prioritizing guest and associate satisfaction to the impact of TV show filming, they share insights on evolving the resort focus post-COVID and enhancing visitor experience through strategic partnerships.

Nov 28, 2023 • 38min
288: If You Build It, They Will Come: Discussing Tourism Infrastructure with Lee Adamson
In this episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam talks with Lee Adamson, executive director of a destination close to home, Explore Utah Valley. Home to not only Relic but also beautiful mountains, top-tier sports facilities, and a rapidly expanding regional airport, Utah Valley is an unexpectedly unique destination with tons to offer. Lee talks about his experience working with groups and events in the destination and why past successes have helped justify the need to continue to develop tourism infrastructure in the area.
"Utah Valley is this incredible unexpected venue, and that's where we're going for the future — showing people all of these unexpected things that they would have never thought of." -Lee Adamson
Explore Utah Valley
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Nov 21, 2023 • 40min
287: Sustainable Tourism Marketing with Kevney Dugan and Todd Montgomery
In this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, host Adam Stoker talks with Kevney Dugan, President and CEO of Visit Bend, and Todd Montgomery, Director of the Oregon State University Sustainable Tourism Lab. They discuss the importance of understanding the impacts of tourism on communities and the environment and the need for sustainable practices. Todd highlights the work of the Sustainable Tourism Lab in educating future industry professionals and the challenges and opportunities in the tourism industry, and Kevney discusses the need for destinations to measure with new performance metrics.
"There is so much more we need to be thinking about and so much more we need to be measuring to truly understand the impacts of the industry and ensure that we don't overcook it and ultimately have to do more 'damage control'. We can actually control our narrative and work towards that future versus being more protectionist." -Kevney Dugan
Visit Bend
Oregon State University Sustainable Tourism Lab
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