
Destination Marketing Podcast
The Destination Marketing Podcast is built for tourism marketers across the country who are overworked and understaffed. Our goal is to help these people prioritize the activities that are proven to be most effective in marketing a destination and stay up to date on the latest technologies and trends in the industry. This isn’t a feel-good, motivational podcast. We’re diving deep into what to do and how to do it. Subscribe today if you’re a tourism marketer and want to perfect your craft.
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Oct 17, 2023 • 45min
279: AI and Content Creation with Will Seccombe
On this week’s episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam is joined by returning guest Will Seccombe. Having gone through a recent career change, Will gives us an update on his new role at Intentful and how he’s been focusing on AI and content creation over the past several months. He talks about a project he’s been working on called “Undiscovered America,” a television show highlighting destinations around the country, and how he’s utilized artificial intelligence tools to increase his efficiency and productivity with the show.
“Connecting with the people and the places that tell really compelling stories about a destination, rather than things that you would normally include in a thirty-second commercial, allows you to connect with not only the destination but also the audience.” -Will Seccombe
Intentful
Undiscovered America
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Oct 10, 2023 • 48min
278: Creating a Podcast for Locals with Wes Rhea
Wes Rhea, the CEO of Visit Stockton, joins Adam on today's episode to talk about his destination and partnering with Relic to create This is Stockton. Wes elaborates on the benefits of catering your destination podcast to locals and the overall merit of audio content. Wes also discusses the value of being an early adopter when it comes to emerging technology and how that has helped Visit Stockton.
"We know we're moving the needle on the depth of knowledge that people have about certain things in our community, so they may know an attraction or may know a business, but really they, in 30, 40 minutes you get to know something usually personal about that person or some backstory you didn't know, and those little nuggets of information are invaluable." - Wes Rhea
This is Stockton
Visit Stockton
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Oct 3, 2023 • 33min
277: Experiential Tourism Marketing with Lime Media
In this week’s episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam sits down with Troy Hughes from Lime Media to talk about how tourism destinations can take advantage of experiential marketing tactics. They discuss Lime Media's services, including customizing vehicles for brand activations, tracking data, measuring ROI and the importance of creativity in creating memorable experiences.
“We're a place of service. That's what Lime Media does. We always tell our clients we're here to serve them, and that means that we're going to turn-key for you. We're going to fabricate it. We're going to produce it. We're going to put it on the road. We're going to hire drivers. We're going to obtain the permitting and whatever food permits we need for sampling. We're going to do everything for you so you don't have to worry about it.” -Troy Hughes
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Sep 26, 2023 • 36min
276: Local Voices, Authentic Stories: How CrowdRiff Helps Destinations Capture Short-Form Video
On this special episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam sits down with the founder and CEO of Crowdriff, Dan Holowack. They discuss how Crowdriff has transformed the destination marketing industry through user-generated content. They also explore why destinations have seen tremendous organic growth on social media by letting local creators tell the story through short-form video. Adam and Dan delve into the future of content creators and influencers in destination marketing, highlighting why it's critical to incorporate this field into your strategy today.
"I deeply believe that the destination's story is best told by its people. That's going to be the differentiator between destinations as we go forward. Destinations need to continue to seek out those storytellers within their destination and I hope that Crowdriff Creators can help do that. One way or another, I hope that it's the local people that are telling that story and that's what's authentically resonating with visitors now more than ever." -Dan Holowack
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Sep 22, 2023 • 34min
275: Grounding your Advertising in Research with Darren Rudloff
On today’s episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam sits down with Darren Rudloff, principal at Rudloff Solutions. Darren's extensive background in the destination marketing industry makes him the perfect guest to talk about why it’s so important to base your advertising campaigns on research. He and Adam discuss why so many destinations miss the mark and how potential mistakes can be remedied by taking a step back and looking closer at your target market.
“Don’t just do what you’ve always done. Carefully consider what your community needs. Really take a deep dive and look at your problems and set out to solve the problems as opposed to just — we’re a marketing organization, we’re going to do what we do. Try to solve your community’s problems to make it a better place.”
Rudloff Solutions
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Sep 19, 2023 • 48min
274: Continuous Learning in Leadership with Craig and Kathleen Davis
On today's episode, Craig and Kathleen Davis join Adam to talk about the Destination Leadership course that they teach as a part of Destinations International's CDME certification. They emphasize the importance of learning to become an effective leader and how it can improve both work and life for all involved. The conversation later goes into how their experiences have led them to grow as leaders themselves.
"So if I have to help them and coach them through and sometimes get my hands dirty, then that's what a leader does. And I think that that's, that kind of the person that really cares and gives a darn, is somebody that I think people are attracted to. And you have to show that every day, which is hard. It's hard. Leadership is hard." - Craig Davis
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Sep 12, 2023 • 42min
273: The Impact of a Potential New NFL Stadium in Your Destination with Heather Larson
Heather Larson, the president and CEO of Meet Chicago Northwest, joins Adam on today's episode to talk about her background and how she got into tourism after leaving the workforce to be a stay-at-home mom. Adam and Heather also talk about the Chicago Bears and their potential new stadium in Arlington Heights, a northwestern suburb of Chicago. Listen in for a discussion on the pros and cons of this new building and its potential economic impact.
"So it's not just the ten games a year. If they build, say, a 70,000-person stadium, with 70,000 seats, and then when you have concerts, you can fill in the lawn area and fill it with more, right? So that kind of economic impact is just going to be a game changer." - Heather Larson
Meet Chicago Northwest
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Sep 5, 2023 • 22min
272: The Benefits of Destination Strategic Plans with Nizar Moosa
On today's episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam sits down with Nizar Moosa of Destination Markham. Nizar talks about the process of creating a destination strategic plan for Markham and some of the things he has learned along the way. He discusses the need for solid data, updating their CRM system, and fostering collaboration among stakeholders.
“The best part is that this document is available to all our stakeholders. If they want to take a look at it and see how they can contribute, they can come to us and say, you know, this is part of your strategic master plan. Let's work together.” -Nizar Moosa
Destination Markham
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Sep 1, 2023 • 15min
271: Unleashing the Power of Destination Stewardship with Stacie Granum
In this week's episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam interviews Stacie Granum, the Chief Strategy Officer at Visit Rapid City. They discuss destination stewardship and the steps that Visit Rapid City has taken to improve its community and tourism economy. Stacie emphasizes the importance of involving the community in the destination planning process and shares how they changed the terminology from "sustainability plan" to "stewardship plan" to better resonate with stakeholders.
"How are we going to care for this place so that in the long run, we've got a very solid tourism economy but we've got a healthy community? Happy residents, happy visitors." -Stacie Granum
Visit Rapid City
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Aug 29, 2023 • 15min
270: Destination Inclusivity and Accessibility Initiatives with Jayna Leach
The chief marketing officer of Visit Panama City Beach, Jayna Leach, joins Adam to discuss inclusivity in destinations. She shares the positive changes she has seen in her destination because of its “Fun for All” campaign, an inclusive initiative that prioritizes accessibility and fun for all. She also touches on the power of influencers and how to incorporate them into your marketing strategy.
"I think it is being very authentic to your destination and...having that information I think for us it wasn't so much a campaign, but we wanted it to still be on-brand. And so "Fun For All" really means fun for every single person that comes to the destination." - Jayna Leach
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