
Beyond the Scope
Beyond The Scope, a new podcast by the Digital Pathology Association, focuses on hot topics in digital pathology. Co-hosts Dr. Giovanni Lujan (OSUWMC) and Dr. David Tulman (Instapath) converse with key opinion leaders in an engaging format discussing all of the new research, technology, and workflows emerging in digital pathology. Beyond The Scope aims to cover specific topics ranging from artificial intelligence to computational pathology, whole slide imaging to in/ex-vivo microscopy, regulation and commercialization, and more! For more information on the DPA, please visit https://digitalpathologyassociation.org/.
Latest episodes

Nov 4, 2022 • 28min
CPT Coding and Digital Pathology Reimbursement (Live from #PathVisions22)
Send us a textDr. Jon Myles (Cleveland Clinic Pathologist, CAP Governor, and Chair of the Council on Government and Professional Affairs) joins BTS to explain the essentials regarding CPT codes. With the recent proposal for new CPT codes covering services using digital pathology technology, Dr. Myles provides an update on the current efforts and timeline for when the new codes may be officially adopted by CMS. This episode is moderated by Giovanni and Dr. Joe Sirintrapun (MSKCC), featuring industry input from Michael Rivers (Roche).A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Oct 28, 2022 • 49min
Staci Kearney, PhD | Elevation Strategic Development
Send us a textDr. Staci Kearney is a regulatory consultant and Founder of Elevation Strategic Development. She joins the show to discuss her unique path to the regulatory field as someone with a scientific background. In the last 5 years, the DP/AI industry has experienced the milestones of the first whole slide imaging system approved for primary diagnosis and the first AI algorithm approved as an aid to diagnosis. Dr. Kearney discusses the role of regulatory professionals in the industry and outlines the areas where vendors typically seek assistance from consultants. Finally, with the legislation surrounding In Vitro Diagnostics and DP/AI rapidly changing, Dr. Kearney breaks down the most impactful regulatory updates.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Oct 10, 2022 • 37min
Dana Razzano, MD | Stanford Pathology
Send us a textDana Razzano is a GI, liver, and cytopathologist at Stanford and also a faculty fellow at the Stanford Center for Innovation in Global Health. She has dedicated her work in pathology to improving access to laboratory medicine services in low and middle income countries. Dr. Razzanno joins Beyond The Scope to discuss her model for training pathologists around the globe, including a newly launched training program in Ethiopia. Furthermore, she discusses how digital pathology can help increase the pathology workforce and improve patient access to pathology services globally. For more information on Dr. Razzano's work and how to get involved, please visit: https://pathinfo.fandom.com/wiki/Global_Health_Opportunities_for_Pathologists. Dr. Razzano also delivers a newsletter to laboratory medicine professionals in low and middle income countries featuring grant, workshop, and training opportunities. Sign up for the newsletter here: https://lp.constantcontactpages.com/su/lhFaaUN/GlobalPathology.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Sep 23, 2022 • 41min
Digital Pathology Podcasters Summit
Send us a textGiovanni and David are joined by Aleksandra Zuraw DVM, a fellow podcaster and founder of www.digitalpathologyplace.com. Dr. Zuraw is a veterinary pathologist working for Charles River Labs CRO on pre-clinical drug discovery studies. Digital Pathology Place is a website featuring a podcast, blog, webinars, and news items related to digital pathology. This episode is the first installment featuring the digital pathology podcasters getting together to discuss hot topics. The result is a general discussion on digital pathology adoption and reactions to the recently published guidelines for validating clinical and pre-clinical digital pathology applications.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Sep 23, 2022 • 1h 14min
Global Digital Pathology Task Force
Send us a textThis special episode of Beyond The Scope features a panel discussion with the 3 current Presidents of Digital Pathology societies on 3 different continents. Junya Fukuoka MD, PhD is a lung pathologist and President of the Japanese Society of Digital Pathology. Norman Zerbe is a computer scientist and President of the European Society of Digital and Integrative Pathology. Esther Abels is a clinical and regulatory expert and President of the Digital Pathology Association in North America. Topics included in the panel discussion are: 1) The state of DP/AI adoption on each continent, 2) Ethical and regulatory considerations surrounding new pathology technology, 3) Standards for emerging technologies, and 4) Advice to pathologists and vendors looking to move the industry forward.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Aug 8, 2022 • 41min
Lewis Hassell | University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center
Send us a textDr. Lewis Hassell is a pathologist and Director of Anatomic Pathology at The University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center. He joins Beyond the Scope to introduce the Open Pathology Education Network (OPEN) and discuss the challenges currently facing the global pathology workforce. OPEN is a platform that aims to provide remote and digital education to pathologists in underserved areas of the world; they recently launched the first pilot programs in Vietnam. Dr. Hassell also shares his insights on how learnings from the COVID 19 pandemic are transforming the way we educate the next generation of pathologists. To become involved or learn more about OPEN, please email Dr. Hassell directly: lewis-hassell@ouhsc.eduA forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Jul 22, 2022 • 43min
David West | CEO of Proscia
Send us a textDavid West is a computational biologist, entrepreneur, and co-founder of Proscia. Proscia is a company advancing data-driven pathology with its Concentriq platform and computational solutions. He joins BTS to share his journey with Proscia from University spin-off to their recently closed series C funding round. In the second half of the episode, David discusses the challenges and opportunities of working with big data in pathology. Lastly, David shares his insight into how pathologists should go about selecting software tools to meet their needs.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Jul 11, 2022 • 37min
Chhavi Chauhan, PhD | ASIP
Send us a textDr. Chhavi Chauhan (CC) is the Director of Scientific Outreach and Continuing Medical Education for the American Society of Investigative Pathology. CC is also a key member of the DPA educational and membership initiatives. She joins Beyond the Scope to discuss the ethical considerations for new applications of artificial intelligence in medicine, and the specific role pathologists will play in forming new standards. CC is a passionate advocate for diversity, equity, and inclusion in medicine, and importantly shares her vision, including how we can use large datasets, for a more globally connected and inclusive healthcare system.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

May 23, 2022 • 57min
Eric Glassy, MD | APMG
Send us a textAs one of the earliest adopters of digital pathology, Eric Glassy has been at the forefront of most of the major DP/AI innovations in the past 25 years. Eric joins Beyond The Scope to guide us through his career long journey with digital pathology. Serving on numerous boards and committees for organizations like the DPA, CAP, and API, Eric also discusses all of the work related to the CMS waiver for remote sign out (including where we currently stand today). Eric is the Medical Director of Affiliated Pathology Medical Group, a community pathology practice primarily serving Southern California. Therefore, he appropriately presents the benefits and perils of using DP/AI in the community setting.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Apr 29, 2022 • 54min
S. Joseph Sirintrapun, MD | MSKCC
Send us a textDr. Joe Sirintrapun is a surgical pathologist and genitourinary tumor expert, currently serving as the Director of Pathology Informatics at MSKCC. Joe joins Beyond the Scope to discuss his journey to the current role at MSKCC, revealing the value of overcoming setbacks and defining some of the qualities needed to be a leader in the field of Informatics. Previously the President of The Association for Pathology Informatics (API), Joe talks about all of the work that was involved in the CLIA relaxation of regulation for remote sign-out and gives a status update about how long this may last. The 2022 API Summit is being held May 9-12 in Pittsburgh, PA. Please click here for more information.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.