
Beyond the Scope
Beyond The Scope, a new podcast by the Digital Pathology Association, focuses on hot topics in digital pathology. Co-hosts Dr. Giovanni Lujan (OSUWMC) and Dr. David Tulman (Instapath) converse with key opinion leaders in an engaging format discussing all of the new research, technology, and workflows emerging in digital pathology. Beyond The Scope aims to cover specific topics ranging from artificial intelligence to computational pathology, whole slide imaging to in/ex-vivo microscopy, regulation and commercialization, and more! For more information on the DPA, please visit https://digitalpathologyassociation.org/.
Latest episodes

May 11, 2023 • 44min
Aleksandra Zuraw, DVM, PhD | Digital Pathology Place
Giovanni and David are joined by Aleksandra Zuraw DVM, a fellow podcaster and founder of www.digitalpathologyplace.com, to discuss a few hot topics in digital pathology. Topics covered in this episode include Ai adoption in pathology, ChatGPT corollaries to AI for pathology, automating slide scanning, and a real world update on the use of the new trial digital pathology CPT codes.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Apr 11, 2023 • 46min
Harrison Dai | Eastern Virginia Medical School
Harrison Dai, a 3rd year Medical Student from EVMS, joins Beyond The Scope to discuss his interest in pathology residency and journey through medical school. The topics covered include pathology recruitment strategies, The Match updates, recent changes to USMLE step exams, and optimism for digital pathology in residency programs.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Mar 9, 2023 • 50min
Christoph Guetter, PhD | Roche
Dr. Christoph Guetter is a computer scientist and a Director of Algorithm Development at Roche Diagnostics. He joins the show to introduce some of the fundamentals of machine learning algorithm development from an industry perspective. Topics include choosing a project, defining high quality data input, and milestones for completed algorithms.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Feb 6, 2023 • 27min
Lisa-Jean Clifford | Gestalt Diagnostics
Lisa-Jean Clifford is the COO and Chief Strategy Officer at Gestalt Diagnostics. She joins the show to discuss the challenges and successes of marketing new products in the digital pathology space. From previous executive experience in the LIS space, she presents some of the parallels between pathology and radiology's digital transformation. Finally, LJ reflects on her recent appointment as Secretary for the governing council of the API.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Jan 26, 2023 • 55min
Lakshman Ramamurthy, PhD | GSK
Dr. Lakshman Ramamurthy is the Head of Precision Medicine & Digital Health Global Regulatory at GSK. He joins Beyond the Scope to discuss his journey through academia, regulatory and reimbursement affairs, consulting, and industry. As someone who works with emerging diagnostics in big pharma, Dr. Ramamurthy shares his thoughts on digital pathology and artificial intelligence as a tool for clinical trials and discusses the need for more guidance on Good Machine Learning Practices.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Dec 20, 2022 • 36min
Zaibo Li, MD, PhD | OSUWMC Pathology
Dr. Zaibo Li is a pathologist at The Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center, where he also serves as the Associate Director of Digital Pathology. Dr. Li has taken the leap to become a true digital pathologist and joins the show to discuss his journey to fully embrace digital pathology, sharing valuable advice to others also considering the leap. Dr. Li highlights practical benefits of digital pathology, featuring international consultations, resident training, ergonomic improvements, and workload efficiency. Finally, Dr. Li highlights his research developing novel AI for predicting response to breast cancer treatment.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Dec 16, 2022 • 14min
Savitri Krishnamurthy, MD | MD Anderson
Savitri Krishnamturthy is a Professor of Pathology at MD Anderson, specializing in breast pathology and cytopathology. Dr. Krishnamurthy joines Beyond the Scope live from Las Vegas to discuss her work in emerging microscopy technologies for real-time pathology evaluations. As a member of the CAP In Vivo Microscopy Committee, she speaks on the initiatives to get new billing codes for new microscopy technologies. Additionally, Dr. Krishnamurthy shares her thoughts on training the next generation of pathologists to go digital.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Nov 4, 2022 • 28min
CPT Coding and Digital Pathology Reimbursement (Live from #PathVisions22)
Dr. Jon Myles (Cleveland Clinic Pathologist, CAP Governor, and Chair of the Council on Government and Professional Affairs) joins BTS to explain the essentials regarding CPT codes. With the recent proposal for new CPT codes covering services using digital pathology technology, Dr. Myles provides an update on the current efforts and timeline for when the new codes may be officially adopted by CMS. This episode is moderated by Giovanni and Dr. Joe Sirintrapun (MSKCC), featuring industry input from Michael Rivers (Roche).A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Oct 28, 2022 • 49min
Staci Kearney, PhD | Elevation Strategic Development
Dr. Staci Kearney is a regulatory consultant and Founder of Elevation Strategic Development. She joins the show to discuss her unique path to the regulatory field as someone with a scientific background. In the last 5 years, the DP/AI industry has experienced the milestones of the first whole slide imaging system approved for primary diagnosis and the first AI algorithm approved as an aid to diagnosis. Dr. Kearney discusses the role of regulatory professionals in the industry and outlines the areas where vendors typically seek assistance from consultants. Finally, with the legislation surrounding In Vitro Diagnostics and DP/AI rapidly changing, Dr. Kearney breaks down the most impactful regulatory updates.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Oct 10, 2022 • 37min
Dana Razzano, MD | Stanford Pathology
Dana Razzano is a GI, liver, and cytopathologist at Stanford and also a faculty fellow at the Stanford Center for Innovation in Global Health. She has dedicated her work in pathology to improving access to laboratory medicine services in low and middle income countries. Dr. Razzanno joins Beyond The Scope to discuss her model for training pathologists around the globe, including a newly launched training program in Ethiopia. Furthermore, she discusses how digital pathology can help increase the pathology workforce and improve patient access to pathology services globally. For more information on Dr. Razzano's work and how to get involved, please visit: https://pathinfo.fandom.com/wiki/Global_Health_Opportunities_for_Pathologists. Dr. Razzano also delivers a newsletter to laboratory medicine professionals in low and middle income countries featuring grant, workshop, and training opportunities. Sign up for the newsletter here: https://lp.constantcontactpages.com/su/lhFaaUN/GlobalPathology.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.
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