
Beyond the Scope
Beyond The Scope, a new podcast by the Digital Pathology Association, focuses on hot topics in digital pathology. Co-hosts Dr. Giovanni Lujan (OSUWMC) and Dr. David Tulman (Instapath) converse with key opinion leaders in an engaging format discussing all of the new research, technology, and workflows emerging in digital pathology. Beyond The Scope aims to cover specific topics ranging from artificial intelligence to computational pathology, whole slide imaging to in/ex-vivo microscopy, regulation and commercialization, and more! For more information on the DPA, please visit https://digitalpathologyassociation.org/.
Latest episodes

Jun 15, 2023 • 45min
MARTIN STUART, MIKROSCAN
Send us a textDr. Stuart is the CEO of Mikroscan, a company making telemicroscopy systems. He joins the show to discuss the past, present, and future of digital pathology. From the lens of his experience leading companies through the digital transformation in radiology and pathology, he shares insight on challenges facing adoption. This episode includes stories from the early days of digital pathology and the DPA as well as recent initiatives in the industry.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

May 31, 2023 • 53min
Ehab El-Gabry, Akoya Biosciences
Send us a textDr. Ehab El-Gabry is the Chief Medical Officer at Akoya Biosciences. He joins the show to discuss spatial biology and multiplexing technology applications for pharmaceutical research and pathology. Additional topics include biotechnology executive career talk and some history behind PDL1 development.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

May 11, 2023 • 44min
Aleksandra Zuraw, DVM, PhD | Digital Pathology Place
Send us a textGiovanni and David are joined by Aleksandra Zuraw DVM, a fellow podcaster and founder of www.digitalpathologyplace.com, to discuss a few hot topics in digital pathology. Topics covered in this episode include Ai adoption in pathology, ChatGPT corollaries to AI for pathology, automating slide scanning, and a real world update on the use of the new trial digital pathology CPT codes.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Apr 11, 2023 • 46min
Harrison Dai | Eastern Virginia Medical School
Send us a textHarrison Dai, a 3rd year Medical Student from EVMS, joins Beyond The Scope to discuss his interest in pathology residency and journey through medical school. The topics covered include pathology recruitment strategies, The Match updates, recent changes to USMLE step exams, and optimism for digital pathology in residency programs.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Mar 9, 2023 • 50min
Christoph Guetter, PhD | Roche
Send us a textDr. Christoph Guetter is a computer scientist and a Director of Algorithm Development at Roche Diagnostics. He joins the show to introduce some of the fundamentals of machine learning algorithm development from an industry perspective. Topics include choosing a project, defining high quality data input, and milestones for completed algorithms.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Feb 6, 2023 • 27min
Lisa-Jean Clifford | Gestalt Diagnostics
Send us a textLisa-Jean Clifford is the COO and Chief Strategy Officer at Gestalt Diagnostics. She joins the show to discuss the challenges and successes of marketing new products in the digital pathology space. From previous executive experience in the LIS space, she presents some of the parallels between pathology and radiology's digital transformation. Finally, LJ reflects on her recent appointment as Secretary for the governing council of the API.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Jan 26, 2023 • 55min
Lakshman Ramamurthy, PhD | GSK
Send us a textDr. Lakshman Ramamurthy is the Head of Precision Medicine & Digital Health Global Regulatory at GSK. He joins Beyond the Scope to discuss his journey through academia, regulatory and reimbursement affairs, consulting, and industry. As someone who works with emerging diagnostics in big pharma, Dr. Ramamurthy shares his thoughts on digital pathology and artificial intelligence as a tool for clinical trials and discusses the need for more guidance on Good Machine Learning Practices.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Dec 20, 2022 • 36min
Zaibo Li, MD, PhD | OSUWMC Pathology
Send us a textDr. Zaibo Li is a pathologist at The Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center, where he also serves as the Associate Director of Digital Pathology. Dr. Li has taken the leap to become a true digital pathologist and joins the show to discuss his journey to fully embrace digital pathology, sharing valuable advice to others also considering the leap. Dr. Li highlights practical benefits of digital pathology, featuring international consultations, resident training, ergonomic improvements, and workload efficiency. Finally, Dr. Li highlights his research developing novel AI for predicting response to breast cancer treatment.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Dec 16, 2022 • 14min
Savitri Krishnamurthy, MD | MD Anderson
Send us a textSavitri Krishnamturthy is a Professor of Pathology at MD Anderson, specializing in breast pathology and cytopathology. Dr. Krishnamurthy joines Beyond the Scope live from Las Vegas to discuss her work in emerging microscopy technologies for real-time pathology evaluations. As a member of the CAP In Vivo Microscopy Committee, she speaks on the initiatives to get new billing codes for new microscopy technologies. Additionally, Dr. Krishnamurthy shares her thoughts on training the next generation of pathologists to go digital.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Nov 4, 2022 • 28min
CPT Coding and Digital Pathology Reimbursement (Live from #PathVisions22)
Send us a textDr. Jon Myles (Cleveland Clinic Pathologist, CAP Governor, and Chair of the Council on Government and Professional Affairs) joins BTS to explain the essentials regarding CPT codes. With the recent proposal for new CPT codes covering services using digital pathology technology, Dr. Myles provides an update on the current efforts and timeline for when the new codes may be officially adopted by CMS. This episode is moderated by Giovanni and Dr. Joe Sirintrapun (MSKCC), featuring industry input from Michael Rivers (Roche).A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.