
The Money with Katie Show
Finance bros are out, #RichGirls are in. Join Money with Katie and her guests for conversations about where the economic, cultural, and political meet the practical personal finance education that everyone needs. Listen weekly on Wednesdays.
Latest episodes

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Jun 4, 2025 • 1h 21min
How to Use Today's Economic Uncertainty to Get Closer to Your Dream Life
Amanda Holden, known as Dumpster Doggy, is an investing educator and former finance pro championing financial independence. In this discussion, she shares insights on breaking free from corporate confines and pursuing a life aligned with personal values. They explore the 4% rule for financial independence, the emotional journey of leaving unfulfilling careers, and the role of AI in finance. They also discuss rethinking consumption in uncertain times and advocate for strategic investing to navigate today's economic challenges.

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May 21, 2025 • 1h 37min
Student Loans, 50% Save Rates, and Being a Capitalist: JL Collins, Godfather of Financial Independence, Returns
JL Collins, author of 'The Simple Path to Wealth' and a beacon in the financial independence movement, shares crucial insights on today’s financial landscape. He tackles the student loan crisis and debunks the myth of 'good debt.' Collins advocates for downsizing living expenses and critiques America's consumer culture. A spirited debate on capitalism unfolds, pondering whether billionaires create jobs or vice versa. Tune in for thought-provoking discussions that challenge conventional wisdom and inspire financial freedom.

May 14, 2025 • 1h 8min
On American Exceptionalism, "Good" Jobs, and Manufacturing Nostalgia
Dive into a lively discussion on American exceptionalism and the complexities of wealth in the U.S. Hear personal stories that illuminate the connection between economic conditions and family planning. Explore the intricacies of employee ownership and its challenges, along with critiques on current compensation structures. The conversation also touches on the evolving landscape of Bitcoin and its impact on currencies, while addressing societal issues surrounding wealth and gender dynamics. This captivating dialogue calls for a deeper understanding of financial equity.

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May 7, 2025 • 1h 20min
A $5,000 Baby Bonus, Birth Rates, and...the Manosphere?
In this engaging discussion, writer Meagan Day delves into the complex landscape of birth rates and societal expectations. She analyzes the effectiveness of financial incentives like a $5,000 baby bonus and why they often fall short. Day comments on the rise of 'tradwife' ideals and the influence of the manosphere, as well as the changing perceptions of gender roles, particularly among Gen Z. She encourages a deeper look at women's empowerment, economic stability, and meaningful policies to address declining birth rates.

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Apr 30, 2025 • 57min
The $175K Factory Worker: What Happens When Employees Own Stock
Pete Stavros, co-head of global private equity at KKR, champions employee ownership through ESOPs, aiming to reshape workplace culture and boost productivity. He discusses how bringing ownership to workers can combat wage stagnation and wealth inequality. With case studies like CHI Overhead Doors and Lux Weavers, Pete highlights the benefits of shared equity in fostering engagement. He also tackles the skepticism surrounding employee ownership in private equity, advocating for authentic leadership to bridge the empathy gap between executives and employees.

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Apr 23, 2025 • 1h 11min
Talking Tariffs and Trade Wars with Grace Blakeley and Kathryn Edwards
Join economist Kathryn Edwards, known for her labor economics insights, and writer Grace Blakeley, a vocal critic of capitalism, as they dive into the complexities of tariffs and trade wars. They explore how U.S. trade policies are reshaping global trust and financial dynamics. The discussion reveals the potential decline of the dollar's dominance and the impacts of rising inequality and corporate behaviors in America. Listeners will discover the urgent need for collective action to address these pressing economic inequities.

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Apr 9, 2025 • 1h 34min
On Bailouts, Being "Too Big to Fail," and Little Luxuries
Listeners engage with fascinating topics, from the impact of economic theories on wealth inequality to the challenges of transitioning between life stages. The conversation on a Social Wealth Fund sparks debates on collective wealth management amidst rising AI. Gender dynamics in college enrollment reveal societal shifts, while innovative ideas like micro sovereign wealth funds suggest new financial solutions. The interplay of design and labor raises critical questions about corporate accountability and the implications for social status and activism.

Apr 2, 2025 • 1h 1min
Money, Fashion, and the Aesthetics of Class Politics
Véronique Hyland, Features director at Elle and author of Dress Code, dives into fashion's ties with politics, gender, and class. She discusses how aesthetics can drive labor movements and influence consumer behavior. Examining brands like Brandy Melville, she highlights the contradictions between fashion and economic ideologies. Véronique also sheds light on trends like 'underconsumption,' exploring how the wealthy shape fashion choices and the societal obsession with appearing affluent. Prepare for a thought-provoking conversation on style and class!

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Mar 26, 2025 • 1h 25min
Why Economist Kathryn Edwards is Optimistic About America’s Future
Economist Kathryn Edwards, a Bloomberg columnist known as the "Keds Economist," shares her insights on America’s economic outlook. She discusses the overlooked policy with a big ROI and critiques the reliance on tax cuts for growth. Kathryn emphasizes the need for systemic support for families, arguing that financial stability is essential for raising children. She also addresses the dangers of apathy in civic engagement, highlighting the importance of actively participating in political issues. Her optimistic perspective reveals a path forward through thoughtful policy reform.

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Mar 19, 2025 • 1h 30min
Is This Simple Idea the Solution for America's Wealth Inequality?
Join Matt Bruenig, founder of the People's Policy Project and a former National Labor Relations Board lawyer, as he tackles America's wealth inequality. He introduces the intriguing concept of social wealth funds, where every citizen receives shares that yield dividends, inspired by models from Norway and Alaska. The conversation explores the moral implications of wealth distribution and innovative policies like universal dividends. Bruenig emphasizes the need for a solidarity economy to foster fairness and economic stability for all.