
Mike‘s Search For Meaning
Mike‘s Search For Meaning is the intersection between philosophical and practical. How do leaders organize their inner world? What tools and tactics can we use to enhance our relationships and careers? Join host and life coach Mike Trugman as he seeks to unlock the keys to living a deeply fulfilling life.
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Aug 6, 2023 • 1h 23min
#84 - Chelsea Flagg on Finding Your Life Purpose and Healing through Writing
Chelsea’s Bio:
I’ve been passionate about writing from as early on as I can remember.
In 2014, I finally stopped ignoring the stories bubbling up inside me and wrote my first book. A quirky memoir appropriately all about discovering myself. I went on to create a children’s fantasy series about a quirky little elfin girl in Iceland.
I was finally home. I had found my center. I felt alive anytime I let the words spill out of me and onto a piece of paper. Writing became a therapy for me. I started using the tool to help heal my own traumas.
It was such a powerful tool for me, I started exploring and implementing how I could share it with others. How I can help others write their own stories, and heal through writing. The results have been astounding.
Because we all have a story inside of us, and whether you’re looking to publish that story or not, the healing release of writing it down is ENORMOUS.
I live part-time in Colorado and part-time in Portugal with my husband, three practically perfect daughters, and Gladys the cat.
Additionally, I’ll be donating to and raising awareness for the charity or organization of my guest’s choice with each episode now. This episode, the organization is Breast Cancer Awareness. Any and all donations make a difference!
You can connect with Chelsea on:
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Resources/People Mentioned:
Big Magic - Elizabeth Gilbert
Just Beyond My Comprehension - Dr. Margaret Ficaj
The Artist's Way - Julia Cameron
Bossypants - Tina Fey
Tinsey Clover - Chelsea Flagg
I'd Rather Wear Pajamas - Chelsea Flagg

Jul 30, 2023 • 1h 36min
#83 - Raul Espinoza and Ben Littauer on Transformational Healing In Prisons, Commitments to Freedom and Justice, & Doing The Work
Raul Espinoza, Executive Director of All Kings
Raul is an emotional intelligence and personal development consultant with over 15 years of experience. He has been working with impact initiatives to support oppressed communities around the world. Raul has worked on projects such as social incubators within the favelas of Brazil, psychosocial development groups in Iraq, youth empowerment groups in India, and many more. Raul has experience with psycho-social development, neurolinguistic programming, emotional intelligence development, leadership training, and mindset coaching. He has worked with local projects with the Department of Probation, Carnegie hall, and Stop the Violence.
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Ben Littauer is the Executive Director for Jericho Circle, a Boston-based non-profit that runs emotional healing circles with incarcerated individuals, returning citizens and community volunteers. Ben holds a certification in Core Energetics, a body-centered approach to psychotherapy and trauma healing, and has also trained extensively with the ManKind Project, an international not-for-profit that provides emotional healing and self-actualization work for men from all walks of life. Ben graduated Harvard College in 2003 with a philosophy degree, and his prior career has included assignments in defense, financial services, and corporate leadership development. Ben resides in Somerville, Massachusetts, and enjoys canoeing and downhill skiing.
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Additionally, I’ll be donating to and raising awareness for the charity or organization of my guest’s choice with each episode now. This episode, there are 2 organizations: AllKings and Jericho Circle. Please join me in donating.
You can connect with Raul and Ben on:
AllKings
Jericho Circle
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Resources/People Mentioned:
The Work - Documentary
AllKings
Jericho Circle
Mankind Project

Jul 23, 2023 • 1h 28min
#82 - Ali Tocker on Deconstructing Education Systems, Immunity to Change, and Being a Lifelong Student
Ali is an IECL accredited facilitator, advisor, and coach. She has worked in leadership, coaching and change for over 25 years, Ali has been involved in developing leaders both nationally and internationally. She partners with businesses, teams, and individuals to create a development process that is specific and highly relevant to the areas of the people she works with.
“I am a practically-minded leadership consultant and coach, known for my accessible style and extensive knowledge of how people develop most effectively at work”.
“I am best known for being an early adopter and a strategic thinker in my work. Because I can see patterns and identify bespoke solutions that are both practical and effective, I connect easily with people, and am able to operate within complex environments to support the successful development of senior leaders”.
Ali has extensive strategic facilitation experience and is a highly respected coach who works from a viewpoint that people work best when they are interested and engaged in their own development- her style is coaching alongside using the expertise of both parties in the coaching partnership. She is skilled in stakeholder management and mediation.
Ali has worked throughout Aotearoa New Zealand with a wide range of organisations - government departments, not for profit organisations, educational institutes and universities, privately owned companies and community-based initiatives.
Additionally, I’ll be donating to and raising awareness for the charity or organization of my guest’s choice with each episode now. This episode, the organization is Leukaemia and Blood Cancer New Zealand. Any and all donations make a difference!
You can connect with Ali on:
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LinkedIn
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Resources/People Mentioned:
Immunity to Change - Lisa Laskow Lahey
Conscious Leadership Group
David Cooperrider
About Appreciative Inquiry
Leukaemia and Blood Cancer New Zealand
Barry Oshry
Sarah Tocker
The Drama Triangle
Kurt Hahn

Jul 16, 2023 • 1h 50min
#81 - Valerie Livesay on Adult Development Theory and Fallback: Shining Light on Our Shadows and Embracing All of Who We Are
For more than a decade, Valerie Livesay, Ph.D. has been thinking about and inquiring into the phenomenon of fallback — when despite our optimal developmental capacities, what we often refer to as our developmental center-of-gravity, we make meaning, feel, and act from a smaller, less complex, less capable form of mind.
Following a career in higher education in both administration and faculty roles, Valerie’s present endeavors seek to extend the concepts and experiences that she studies, teaches, and writes about outside of the halls of academia, to the lives of all people trying to navigate the tricky business of showing up in alignment with their intentions in the many contexts of their world.
As Chief Illuminator at Ghost Light Leadership, Valerie accompanies individuals through their discovery of self using the analogy of theater to set the stage for their historical and unfolding story. She serves as documentarian, bringing to light the lesser known, lesser loved, and occasionally forgotten roles and scenes that make up one’s full ensemble and storyline.
Through her writing, speaking, coaching, and workshop offerings, Valerie invites the many characters that comprise the full ensemble of one’s self to dance together in order to better meet their intentions.
Valerie is the author of Leaving the Ghost Light Burning: Illuminating Fallback in Embrace of the Fullness of You in which she reveals both the despair and ecstasy that accompany a knowing of the fullness of one’s self through the stories of four individuals and their experiences of fallback. This longitudinal study (which was actually never intended to be a longitudinal study) allows the reader to find the fullness of themselves in the journey of development and the experience of being human.
Valerie holds a Bachelor’s degree from Indiana University and earned her Master’s in Nonprofit Leadership and Management and a Ph.D. in Leadership Studies from the University of San Diego. She lives in San Diego, California with her two cats, husband, and two children, with the latter three serving simultaneously as the most frequent protagonists of and audience to her experiences of fallback and the greatest source of her desire to do better.
Additionally, I’ll be donating to and raising awareness for the charity or organization of my guest’s choice with each episode now. This episode, the organization is The Monarch School in San Diego. Any and all donations make a difference!
You can connect with Valerie on:
Website
Book: Leaving the Ghost Light Burning: Illuminating Fallback in Embrace of the Fullness of You
LinkedIn
YouTube
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Resources/People Mentioned:
Leaving the Ghost Light Burning: Illuminating Fallback in Embrace of the Fullness of You
Nadjeschda Taranczewski
Internal Family Systems
Monarch Schools
Vivek Murthy
Jennifer Garvey Berger
Joshua Waitzkin
David McCallum

Jul 9, 2023 • 1h 48min
#80 - Leslie Schrock on All Things Pregnancy: Fertility (Male & Female), Medicated vs. Unmedicated Birthing, What to Eat & Supplement With, Pelvic Floor & Exercises, and Expecting the Unexpected
Leslie Schrock is an author and angel investor working at the convergence of health and technology. Her breakout hit, Bumpin’: The Modern Guide to Pregnancy mixes the latest clinical research with practical advice for working families.
Her second book, Fertility Rules, (Simon Element, Spring 2023) was published on June 6 and addresses male and female fertility. Leslie is an investor in Caribou, Roon, Pangea, Tonal, Perchwell, Legacy, Kinfield, and dbt Labs (and others), and an advisor to Maven, Alife, Origin, Oath, and Reverance. She is also on Gameto’s bioethics board, and the board of advisors at the Moody School of Communication at her alma mater, The University of Texas at Austin.
Leslie was named one of Fast Company’s Most Creative People in Business, and her work has been featured in The Economist, Fortune, NPR, Time, GQ, CNBC, Forbes, Wired, and The New York Times.
Additionally, I’ll be donating to and raising awareness for the charity or organization of my guest’s choice with each episode now. This episode, the organization is called Every Mother Counts. Any and all donations make a difference!
You can connect with Leslie on:
Website
Instagram
Twitter
LinkedIn
Bumpin’: The Modern Guide to Pregnancy
Fertility Rules
Substack
To connect with me:
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Resources/People Mentioned:
Bumpin' - Leslie Schrock
Fertility Rules - Leslie Schrock
Dr. Becky Kennedy
Every Mother Counts

Jul 2, 2023 • 1h 49min
#79 - Ingrid Edstrom on Revitalizing the Accounting Industry, The Energy of Money, Shifting from Power Over to Power With, and Saving Our Planet & Humanity
Ingrid Edstrom is the Chief Empowerment Officer at the award winning consulting firm, Priestess Of Profits, LLC. She is a Woodard Certified Business Coach, a certified Positive Intelligence Mental Fitness Coach, and a certified Offers and Needs Market Facilitator.
She has been recognized as one of the accounting profession's Top 40 Under 40, Most Powerful Women in Accounting, a Top 100 ProAdvisor, and the 2017 Top "Up-N-Comer" ProAdvisor.
Ingrid is the leader of the Empower Your Passion mastermind group for accountants through the RoundtableLabs community, a member of the Intuit Trainer/Writer Network, board treasurer of the Post Growth Institute, and a founder of the Accounting Alchemy Network.
When Ingrid is not teaching & consulting, she is usually playing Irish music or frolicking with her goats.
Additionally, I’ll be donating to and raising awareness for the charity or organization of my guest’s choice with each episode now. This episode, the organization is called the Post Growth Institute. Any and all donations make a difference!
You can connect with Ingrid on:
Website
LinkedIn
Priestess of Profits Website
Accounting Alchemy Network
YouTube Channel for Priestess of Profits
YouTube Channel for Accounting Alchemy Network
To connect with me:
Interested in working with me as your coach? Book a complimentary 15 minute call here.
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Resources/People Mentioned:
Man's Search for Meaning - Viktor E. Frankl
Daring Greatly - Brené Brown
Atlas of the Heart - Brené Brown
Sacred Economics - Charles Eisenstein
Quiet - Susan Cain
The Art of Money - Bari Tessler
The Soul of Money - Lynne Twist
Dr. Joe Dispenza
Post Growth Institute
Positive Intelligence - Coaching

Jun 25, 2023 • 1h 36min
#78 - Danny Miranda on The Power of a Growth Mindset, Balancing Ambition and Gratitude, and Making the Most of this Floating Rock in Space
Danny Miranda is the host of the popular podcast, The Danny Miranda Podcast, where he interviews the happiest, healthiest, and wisest people in the world (entrepreneurs, creators, and thinkers).
Danny is an absolute force in the world of podcasting and personal development, having amassed a large following on multiple platforms and releasing 371 podcast episodes, to date. He has interviewed Gary Vaynerchuk, Tom Bilyeu, Seth Godin, Tucker Max, and many of the most prolific forces in the personal development space.
He is an incredible interviewer and inspiring person; you are going to love his energy.
Additionally, I’ll be donating to and raising awareness for the charity or organization of my guest’s choice with each episode now. This episode, the organization is called Nassau Suffolk Services for Autism. Any and all donations make a difference!
You can connect with Danny on:
YouTube
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
To connect with me:
Interested in working with me as your coach? Book a complimentary 15 minute call here.
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Resources/People Mentioned:
The Surrender Experiment - Michael A. Singer
A New Earth - Eckhart Tolle
Love Yourself Like Your Life Depends on It - Kamal Ravikant
The Artist's Way - Julia Cameron
The Game - Neil Strauss
Jim Collins
Kat Norton - Miss Excel
Mike DeSanti

Jun 18, 2023 • 1h 34min
#77 - Janet Driver on The Gift of Giving Back, Holistic/Sustainable Approaches to End Poverty, and The Unstoppable Foundation
Janet spent her career as a highly accomplished human resources executive with over 30 years of experience in the entertainment industry. Her passion for empowering creative individuals to reach their full potential both personally and professionally has been a driving force throughout her career.
Throughout her tenure, Janet has held a variety of leadership roles, including corporate training, executive coaching, and troubleshooting for the C-suite. She also served as an Instructor at the Fashion Institute of Design & Merchandising in Los Angeles, where she shared her expertise with the next generation of industry professionals.
Janet's dedication to giving back is evident in her extensive volunteer work in the non-profit sector. She focused on helping women and children in need, including working with orphans, training abused and battered women to re-enter the workforce, and coaching troubled youth for higher Education.
Currently, Janet is making a tremendous impact as part of The Unstoppable Foundation team. She is thrilled to be working every day to bring sustainable solutions to poverty and improve the lives of families in Kenya.
Janet has embedded a commitment to a healthy lifestyle throughout all her achievements and takes great joy in living clean. Above all, Janet lives by her mantra of "family first." Her greatest joy comes from being a loving wife, mother, and grandmother.
Additionally, I’ll be donating to and raising awareness for the charity or organization of my guest’s choice with each episode now. This episode, the organization is called The Unstoppable Foundation. Any and all donations make a difference!
You can connect with Janet on:
LinkedIn
The Unstoppable Foundation
15th Anniversary Giving/US
15Anniversary Giving/UK
To connect with me:
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Resources/People Mentioned:
15th Anniversary Giving/US
15Anniversary Giving/UK
Unstoppable Foundation's website is accessible by clicking here.
The Video of Faith's life story can be found here.
The video of Faith appearing at the UF Gala is here.
UF's Chairman of the Board David Meltzer.
Colleen Maloy
Chicken Soup for the Soul - Jack Canfield
Letter To The American Church - Eric Metaxas
Kisses From Katie - Katie Davis Majors
Marriage on the Rock - Jimmy Evans
Unstoppable - Cynthia Kersey
Cynthia Kersey
Tony Robbins
The Unstoppable Leadership Academy (ULA) Fact Sheet is available here.
Bob Proctor
Sandy Gallagher
Mary Morrissey
Lisa Nichols
Jack Canfield
Sir John Templeton

Jun 11, 2023 • 1h 32min
#76 - Ben Bergon on His Journey of Coming Out, Self-Discovery, and Creating Inclusive Spaces for LGBTQ+ Communities
Ben Bergon (he/him) is deeply passionate about helping others. He is currently a Sr. Manager of Learning & Development at Chobani, where he focuses on providing challenging and fulfilling career journeys through an employee driven, robust career growth and development framework.
He spent the first chapter of his own career as a Certified Public Accountant working at KPMG and then at Chobani helping them prepare for an Initial Public Offering. His transition into Learning & Development was a product of his relentless pursuit of passion and purpose. He also leads the LGBTQ+ & Allies Employee Resource Group at Chobani and strives to continue to establish Chobani as one of the best places to work for LGBTQ+ employees.
Ben is also the Chairmen of the Board of Compassion Animal Project, a nationwide 501(c)(3) non-profit organization that provides financial assistance for life-saving treatments for pets and helps keep families together.
When he's not working Ben can either be found on a hike at a national park, a concert somewhere in NYC, in the kitchen cooking for family and friends, or playing fetch with his 'dog-like' kitten Grover.
Additionally, I’ll be donating to and raising awareness for the charity or organization of my guest’s choice with each episode now. This episode, the organization is called Compassion Animal Project. Any and all donations make a difference!
You can connect with Ben on:
Instagram
LinkedIn
To connect with me:
Interested in working with me as your coach? Book a complimentary 15 minute call here.
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Resources/People Mentioned:
Compassion Animal Project
Mama Has a Mustache
Brene Brown
Marissa Fernandez
The Enneagram Personality Test
Dare to Lead - Brene Brown
Adam Grant
Sally Rubin
Think Again - Adam Grant

Jun 4, 2023 • 1h 36min
#75 - Justin Scott Campbell on Creating Love, Safety and Belonging, Understanding Racism and White Supremacy through Somatics, and Planting Seeds for a Brighter Future
Justin Scott Campbell (he/him) is an ICF-certified ACC executive coach and diversity consultant & facilitator based in Los Angeles, CA. His work seeks to bring healing practices to organizations so that the people who work there can daily experience Love, Safety, Kindness, and Belonging, unfettered by bias and prejudice.
He helps his clients see problems in new ways, offering solutions they may not have thought of before. He also creates spaces that reveal to clients what’s working, what’s not, and what needs to be improved.
His work with teams and individuals has helped these teams pioneer new ways of doing things that transformed the spaces he has worked in. He provides unique perspectives that help clients level up and improve the ways in which they are working.
Additionally, I’ll be donating to and raising awareness for the charity or organization of my guest’s choice with each episode now. This episode, the organization is called Southern Poverty Law Center. Any and all donations make a difference!
You can connect with Justin on:
Website
LinkedIn
To connect with me:
Interested in working with me as your coach? Book a complimentary 15 minute call here.
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Instagram
Website
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Please leave a review for this podcast on Apple Podcasts!
Resources/People Mentioned:
Jerry Colonna
Emergent Strategy - Adrienne Maree Brown
Pleasure Activism - Adrienne Maree Brown
My Grandmother's Hands - Resmaa Menakem
The Half Has Never Been Told - Edward E. Baptist
The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe - C. S. Lewis
Southern Poverty Law Center
Resmaa Menakem
12 Years a Slave (2013)
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