
Mike‘s Search For Meaning
Mike‘s Search For Meaning is the intersection between philosophical and practical. How do leaders organize their inner world? What tools and tactics can we use to enhance our relationships and careers? Join host and life coach Mike Trugman as he seeks to unlock the keys to living a deeply fulfilling life.
Latest episodes

Jun 4, 2023 • 1h 36min
#75 - Justin Scott Campbell on Creating Love, Safety and Belonging, Understanding Racism and White Supremacy through Somatics, and Planting Seeds for a Brighter Future
Justin Scott Campbell (he/him) is an ICF-certified ACC executive coach and diversity consultant & facilitator based in Los Angeles, CA. His work seeks to bring healing practices to organizations so that the people who work there can daily experience Love, Safety, Kindness, and Belonging, unfettered by bias and prejudice.
He helps his clients see problems in new ways, offering solutions they may not have thought of before. He also creates spaces that reveal to clients what’s working, what’s not, and what needs to be improved.
His work with teams and individuals has helped these teams pioneer new ways of doing things that transformed the spaces he has worked in. He provides unique perspectives that help clients level up and improve the ways in which they are working.
Additionally, I’ll be donating to and raising awareness for the charity or organization of my guest’s choice with each episode now. This episode, the organization is called Southern Poverty Law Center. Any and all donations make a difference!
You can connect with Justin on:
Website
LinkedIn
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Resources/People Mentioned:
Jerry Colonna
Emergent Strategy - Adrienne Maree Brown
Pleasure Activism - Adrienne Maree Brown
My Grandmother's Hands - Resmaa Menakem
The Half Has Never Been Told - Edward E. Baptist
The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe - C. S. Lewis
Southern Poverty Law Center
Resmaa Menakem
12 Years a Slave (2013)

May 28, 2023 • 1h 56min
#74 - Mike Slavin on Finding the Magic in Everyday Life, Following Your Blissipline, & Reigniting Child-Like Wonder
Mike Slavin is a magician and poet telling tales from the intersection of attention, deception, and wonder.
He has been a close-up magician for more than half of his life, so he understands much about how the mind works, and how easily it can be manipulated and deceived.
He is a core team member at HighExistence.com where he imagines strategy and builds community. He also writes the newsletter Down The Rabbit Hole that goes out to 39,000 people every week.
Additionally, I’ll be donating to and raising awareness for the charity or organization of my guest’s choice with each episode now. This episode, the organization is called Unlimited Sciences. Any and all donations make a difference!
You can connect with Mike on:
Website
Newsletter - Down The Rabbit Hole
High Existence
Instagram
Twitter
To connect with me:
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Resources/People Mentioned:
The Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are - Alan Watts
The Wisdom of Insecurity - Alan Watts
The Way of Zen - Alan Watts
The Hero's Journey - Joseph Campbell
The Journey of Reenchantment
Jeff Foster
Craig Chalquist
Good Will Hunting
Pema Chodron
Harry Houdini
Mark Twain
Alan Watts
Voluntary Hardship

May 21, 2023 • 1h 52min
#73 - Former NFL Executive Mike Smith on Sports as a Framework for Leadership, Establishing Trust & Psychological Safety, the Importance of Feedback, and Seeing the System
Former NFL Executive Mike Smith discusses using sports for leadership, trust, and feedback. He reflects on childhood experiences, balance in finance, building organizational culture, leadership qualities, challenges in obtaining feedback, reflections on leadership and empathy, and the importance of supportive bosses in career development.

May 14, 2023 • 1h 35min
#72 - Jules Peláez on Shifting from Cigarettes and Mtn. Dew to Vibrant Health and Wellbeing, Calling In Your Highest Self, & Appreciating the Zoo of Life
Meet Julie Peláez, the intuitive, heart-centered master coach behind Just Jules Nutrition. As a Board-Certified Holistic Health Coach and certified yoga instructor, Jules has spent the past several decades guiding her clients towards vibrant health and wellbeing. She co-founded the Conscious Cleanse, a 14-day clean eating program that has helped thousands of people break free from lifelong food struggles. With Jules’ guidance, you too can experience a life filled with energy, vitality, and joy. Book a free 30-minute discovery call today at justjulesnutrition.com and take the first step towards your future self.
Additionally, I’ll be donating to and raising awareness for the charity or organization of my guest’s choice with each episode now. This episode, the organization is called St. Baldricks. Any and all donations make a difference!
You can connect with Jules on:
Website
Instagram
LinkedIn
Conscious Cleanse - Website
Conscious Cleanse - Instagram
Conscious Cleanse - Twitter
To connect with me:
Interested in working with me as your coach? Book a complimentary 15 minute call here.
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Resources/People Mentioned:
The Artist's Way - Julia Cameron
You Can Heal Your Life - Louise Hay
The Hippocrates Diet - Ann Wigmore
Change Your Thoughts - Dr. Wayne W. Dyer
Brené Brown
Wayne W. Dyer
Jeanine Cerundolo

May 7, 2023 • 1h 42min
#71 - Marietta Vis on Seeing Yourself & Being Seen, Embodying Your Commitments & Values, and Living the Life You Aspire To
Marietta Vis is a leadership coach, embodied change expert and team development facilitator. It has been her passion for more than 25 years to help individuals, leaders, teams and organizations who want to reconnect to their purpose and to what really matters to them. The most effective way to find that real, lasting change is to work with the whole person - integrating mind and body so that we can fully thrive at work.
Additionally, I’ll be donating to and raising awareness for the charity or organization of my guest’s choice with each episode now. This episode, the organization is called Enneagram Prison Project. Any and all donations make a difference!
You can connect with Marietta on:
Website
LinkedIn
YouTube
To connect with me:
Interested in working with me as your coach? Book a complimentary 15 minute call here.
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Instagram
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Resources/People Mentioned:
Coaches Rising
The Power of Embodied Transformation - Coaches Rising
Etty Hillesum: An Interrupted Life the Diaries - Etty Hillesum
The Politics of Trauma - Staci Haines
Embodying the Mystery - Richard Strozzi-Heckler
The Myth of Normal - Gabor Maté
Daniel J. Siegel
The Work Documentary
Susan Olesek's Ted Talk - Both Sides of the Bars
Enneagram Prison Project
Strozzi Institute
Somatic Centering Practice
Amanda Blake
Steven Kessler

Apr 30, 2023 • 1h 48min
#70 - Sleep Coach Susan D’Addario on How to Optimize Your Sleep & Your Life
For the past twenty-eight years, sleep coach, consultant, speaker and author, Susan D’Addario, CSW, has been transforming the lives of thousands.
Susan has worked as a licensed psychotherapist for twenty-four years supporting people in her private practice to work through challenging issues to bring about their positive change and growth.
Four years ago, Susan pivoted and became a Certified Sleep Science Coach. She provides sleep coaching primarily to individuals – but also to couples and families - in her role as Independent Sleep Specialist with the Human Transformation and Coaching Company, BetterUp. Susan also provides sleep coaching in her private practice, Back-To-Sleep.
Susan has spoken on the topic of sleep to many companies and organizations including the NYC Women’s Bar Association and Peloton. She loves to provide information to as many people as possible to help them get great sleep and become their optimal selves!
Additionally, I’ll be donating to and raising awareness for the charity or organization of my guest’s choice with each episode now. This episode, the organization is called ASPCA. Any and all donations make a difference!
You can connect with Susan on:
Website
LinkedIn
Instagram
To connect with me:
Interested in working with me as your coach? Book a complimentary 15 minute call here.
LinkedIn
Instagram
Website
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Please leave a review for this podcast on Apple Podcasts!
Resources/People Mentioned:
Atomic Habits - James Clear
Lohas LED Night Light
Binaural Beats
Felix Gray - Daytime Bluelight Blockers
Spectra 479 Amber - Nighttime Bluelight Blockers
Ultima - Electrolytes
Oura Ring
Great Lakes - Collagen
Retimer Light Therapy Glasses
ASPCA

Apr 23, 2023 • 1h 41min
#69 - Jon Martin on Fitting in Vs. Belonging, Behavior Change, Optimal Health, and The Journey of Leaving Corporate Accounting
Jon Martin is a dear friend of mine who shares a similar life’s journey to mine. He began his career in corporate accounting, and after several years, realized he was lacking fulfillment and aliveness in his life.
After following a very traditional path, he began to explore what the life he truly wanted was. In this conversation, we explore the pain of misalignment, but also the beauty of finding yourself.
Jon has so much insight to share around optimal health, inner work, and so much more.
Additionally, I’ll be donating to and raising awareness for the charity or organization of my guest’s choice with each episode now. This episode, the organization is called Internal Creations. Any and all donations make a difference!
You can connect with Jon on:
LinkedIn
Instagram
To connect with me:
Interested in working with me as your coach? Book a complimentary 15 minute call here.
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Instagram
Website
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Please leave a review for this podcast on Apple Podcasts!
Resources/People Mentioned:
The Institute for Integrative Nutrition
Jeff Cavalier - Athlean X
The Courage to Be Disliked - Ichiro Kishimi
The Big Leap - Gay Hendricks
The Four Agreements - Don Miguel Ruiz
Knee Ability Zero - Ben Patrick
Brené Brown
Deb Dana
Barry (Tv Show)

Apr 16, 2023 • 1h 46min
#68 - Sarah Tocker on Courage, Asking Hard Questions, and Creating Space at the Table for Everyone
Sarah’s bio is as follows:
I am Tangata Tiriti, with ancestry from Scotland and Cornwall, and I live in Kāpiti, just outside of Wellington, with my partner and three daughters. My children and partner whakapapa to
Ngāti Hine and Ngāti Manu.
I have been working as a coach and facilitator for sixteen years with a background in
leadership development, systems leadership, culture and change. I’m particularly interested
in helping people and organisations thrive in times of flux and adaptation, and in supporting
leaders to create lasting improvements, personally and organisationally.
I coach individuals and teams and am interested in important and challenging conversations.
I am known as a straight talker with an ability to see the core issues and enable groups and
individuals to work on these in a safe and meaningful way.
I have led teams across public, private, and not for profit sectors over the past 20 years,
from operations to People and Capability roles and make a point of taking on a contract
leadership role every few years to ensure that my understanding of leadership in action to
accurate and helpful to my clients.
A lot of the work I have done in recent years has drawn on an ongoing focus of connecting
leadership in place, and draws on key concepts of Te Aō Māori, including The Te Kore-Te Pō
– Te Wheiao – Te Ao Mārama as a frame for disruption and the phases we must work
through to lead effectively.
I have worked with leaders from very diverse backgrounds, serving a wide range of
stakeholder groups, and work with clients to make sense of their own culture within their
context and how this can be used to support them from a strengths-based perspective.
Additionally, I’ll be donating to and raising awareness for the charity or organization of my guest’s choice with each episode now. This episode, the organization is called Just Speak. Any and all donations make a difference!
You can connect with Sarah on:
Website
LinkedIn
To connect with me:
Interested in working with me as your coach? Book a complimentary 15 minute call here.
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Website
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Please leave a review for this podcast on Apple Podcasts!
Resources/People Mentioned:
The Coaching Habit - Michael Bungay Stanier
Context, Context, Context - Barry Oshry
Breath - James Nestor
Beating Burnout at Work - Paula Davis
Being Wrong - Kathryn Schulz
Just Speak
David Kantor
Tina Ngata
Aroha - Dr Hinemoa Elder
Moana Jackson

Apr 9, 2023 • 1h 48min
#67 - Kara Tremain on Experiences with Ayahuasca, Presence-Based Coaching and Somatics for Leadership Development
Kara Tremain is a growth and development coach for executives, innovators and business owners, whose holistic practice includes Somatic Experiencing™️ and psychedelic integration.
Her own experience working closely with other executives and providers in the healthcare industry led her to a less traditional approach that addresses the traumas and stresses people bring to and play out in the workplace, which ultimately impacts their success and satisfaction.
Additionally, I’ll be donating to and raising awareness for the charity or organization of my guest’s choice with each episode now. This episode, the organization is called MAPS. Any and all donations make a difference!
You can connect with Kara on:
Website
Photography Site
LinkedIn
To connect with me:
Interested in working with me as your coach? Book a complimentary 15 minute call here.
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Resources/People Mentioned:
Presence-Based Coaching - Doug Silsbee
Waking the Tiger - Peter A. Levine
Reboot - Jerry Colonna
Somatic Experiencing
Bebe Hansen

Apr 2, 2023 • 1h 27min
#66 - Aaron Finbloom on Asking 18,250 Questions, the Intersection of Philosophy and Healing, and Deep Play
Aaron Finbloom is a philosopher, artist and pedagogue. He is the co-founder of The School of Making Thinking (SMT) and the founder & director of The Deep Play Institute (DPI). His practice involves expanding transformative inquiry through games, performance art and structured play.
With training in Circling, Authentic Relating, and Psychodrama, he also facilitates experimental individual and group sessions inspired by these practices. Finbloom has presented works internationally at venues which include: The Museum of Contemporary Art in Chicago, Gallery 151 (New York), Maschinenhaus Kulturbrauerei (Berlin), UNAM (Mexico City), and MainLine Theatre (Montreal).
He holds a PhD in Interdisciplinary Humanities & Fine Arts from Concordia University in Montreal, and is currently teaching Philosophy at the City College of New York and The University of Portland.
Additionally, I’ll be donating to and raising awareness for the charity or organization of my guest’s choice with each episode now. This episode, the organization is called The Deep Play Institute. Any and all donations make a difference!
You can connect with Aaron on:
Website
School of Making Thinking (SMT)
The Deep Play Institute (DPI)
To connect with me:
Interested in working with me as your coach? Book a complimentary 15 minute call here.
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Please leave a review for this podcast on Apple Podcasts!
Resources/People Mentioned:
Friedrich Nietzsche
Carl Jung
Sophie's World - Jostein Gaarder
The Improv Book - Alison Goldie
The Body Keeps the Score - Bessel van der Kolk
Internal Family Systems - Richard Schwartz