
REWORK
A podcast by 37signals about the better way to work and run your business. The REWORK podcast features the co-founders of 37signals (the makers of Basecamp and HEY), Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson sharing their unique perspective on business and entrepreneurship along with host Kimberly Rhodes.
Latest episodes

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Dec 24, 2024 • 19min
Building to Flip is Building to Flop (replay)
Dive into the perils of building a business solely for profit. The co-founders discuss how a 'flipping' mentality can lead to mediocre results and shortcuts that hurt integrity. They advocate for a commitment strategy, emphasizing the value of creating enduring businesses over chasing unicorns. Personal anecdotes reveal the importance of meaningful work and collaboration, underscoring that true success lies in crafting quality rather than quick exits. It's a refreshing take on what it means to build something sustainable.

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Dec 18, 2024 • 23min
The Biggest Customer Conundrum
Chasing big clients can often become a double-edged sword. The founders discuss how large enterprises can burden smaller companies with hidden costs and pressures. They emphasize the importance of aligning with clients that reflect personal values for a more fulfilling work experience. The conversation highlights the need to balance profit with passion, critiquing aggressive sales tactics while advocating for genuine customer relationships. Ultimately, a simple business model centered around smaller clients may foster better stability and creativity.

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Dec 11, 2024 • 19min
The End of Year Junk Drawer
As the year wraps up, the co-founders explore the unique, unstructured time that allows for tackling lingering projects and creative thinking. They discuss the benefits of a relaxed December atmosphere, which fosters reflection and ideation. The emphasis is on collaborative problem-solving and bug fixes without the usual pressure. This transitional period is viewed as a meaningful shift into the new year, rather than just a fresh start, allowing for clarity and excitement about future endeavors.

55 snips
Dec 4, 2024 • 22min
A Product Pivot
Discover how understanding user problems can lead to innovative product features. Learn about a recent pivot in designing HEY's keyboard navigation that resulted in a more effective solution. Hear why executive involvement early on boosts project outcomes and the importance of adaptability in overcoming technical challenges. The discussion highlights the iterative nature of product development and introduces the 'Power Through New' feature, designed to maximize email efficiency and improve user experience.

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Nov 27, 2024 • 30min
Your Competition is Your Costs
Discover why focusing on cost management can be more crucial than competing with others in business. Learn strategies to analyze your expenses and the value they bring. Explore the benefits of ditching a physical office space for greater flexibility and savings. Delve into the secrets of maintaining a lean workforce to boost performance. Finally, uncover hidden costs in SaaS and how reviewing them can lead to substantial savings. It's a fresh take on building a profitable business by looking inward.

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Nov 20, 2024 • 26min
AI, Employee Equity, and Other Listener Questions
The hosts dive into listener questions about implementing AI tools at their company while emphasizing a thoughtful approach to adoption. They discuss the challenges of managing multiple products, focusing on balancing resources and project motivation. The importance of intrinsic motivation over monetary incentives is highlighted, along with their innovative profit-sharing plan for long-term employees. They advocate for stability and a clear business identity, suggesting that thoughtful engagement with growth strategies is essential.

54 snips
Nov 13, 2024 • 29min
What are You Replacing?
The conversation dives into what customers must sacrifice when adopting new products. It's revealed that traditional competitors might not be the greatest threat—often, existing habits and tools, like email, pose bigger challenges. They explore the need for businesses to comprehend user transitions and the role of demonstrations in easing this process. The discussion further illuminates how quality perception influences retail pricing and customer education, stressing the importance of genuine value over superficial features.

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Nov 6, 2024 • 18min
Question Your Customers
Explore the art of crafting open-ended questions to gather genuine customer insights. Discover how these inquiries unveil valuable narratives that can drive marketing strategies. The hosts argue for prioritizing qualitative feedback over cold, hard metrics, highlighting the emotional depth of customer experiences. They emphasize the importance of understanding user journeys and the pitfalls of lengthy surveys. Learn how to transform customer language into impactful marketing, tapping into the real voices that shape your brand.

33 snips
Oct 30, 2024 • 33min
V1 is for Us
The co-founders discuss how the first version of a product is tailored for internal needs, ensuring it addresses real use cases. They emphasize the importance of using their own tools to identify issues and creatively solve problems. The conversation delves into past experiences like Highrise, showcasing the value of patient observation post-launch rather than rushing to change based on early feedback. They also highlight innovative design inspired by user input, like personal artwork in the Hey email service, demonstrating how genuine user engagement drives creativity.

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Oct 23, 2024 • 27min
Principles of Communication
The co-founders of 37signals dive into the essentials of effective communication. They reveal the backstory behind their guide, highlighting that publishing doesn't need to be perfect. The conversation emphasizes how unclear communication can lead to misunderstandings, making transparency crucial, especially during tough discussions. They advocate for thoughtful interactions and respect for others' time, arguing that clarity and simplicity are key to preventing negative perceptions and enhancing collaboration.