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Mar 22, 2023 • 50min
Office Hours Live 017: Every product launch tactic we could think of
Steve, Teddy, Blake, and Jake discuss a variety of product launch tactics, including waitlists, beta programs, communities, and cold outreach for getting the word out. They dive deep into how and when to use Product Hunt, and Jake shares some outside-of-the-box ideas to help move the needle on product launches.
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* Product Hunt: https://www.producthunt.com/
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(00:00) - Introductions
(03:08) - Beta programs and pre-launch activities
(07:37) - Beta programs and pre-launch activities
(13:56) - Nailing product screenshots
(20:14) - Events and conferences
(24:16) - The power of cold outreach
(26:35) - The power of cold outreach
(31:40) - Thoughts on Product Hunt
(38:18) - Thinking outside of the box

Mar 20, 2023 • 28min
Office Hours Live 016: The future of product management
Blake and Steve discuss some of the findings in the recently published 2023 Future of Product Management report. They specifically talk about the downturn in hiring, average working hours, the cost of replacing a product manager, and more.
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The future of product management benchmark report: https://productschool.com/future-of-product-management/
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(00:00) - Introductions
(15:28) - Trends around customer acquisition cost

Mar 16, 2023 • 44min
Why PMs make great founders with Dani Grant (Jam, Cloudflare)
Blake Thorne (@blakethorne - https://twitter.com/blakethorne) of LaunchNotes talks with Dani Grant (co-founder of Jam, previously of Cloudflare) about the transition from product manager to founder. Dani share’s some of the things you miss when you become a founder, and she explains how her small team works quickly by leveraging internal betas.
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Dani’s company: https://jam.dev/
Dani’s Tweet about transitioning from PM to founder: https://twitter.com/thedanigrant/status/1629147359883022337
Startup school series: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQ-uHSnFig5M9fW16o2l35jrfdsxGknNB
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(00:00) - Introductions
(03:19) - Things Dani wishes she knew transitioning from PM to founder
(11:40) - Working faster with fewer people and internal betas
(20:52) - Some of the sacrifices of being a founder
(25:31) - What does a good founder / PM relationship look like?
(35:37) - What's happening at Jam?

Mar 13, 2023 • 41min
Head of product to GM with Rian van der Merwe (Postmark, ActiveCampaign)
Blake Thorne (@blakethorne - https://twitter.com/blakethorne) of LaunchNotes talks with Rian van der Merwe (Postmark, ActiveCampaign) about his journey into product management and transitioning into a GM role. Rian also shares how they close the loop with customers on feature requests.
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Rian’s personal website: https://rianvdm.com/
Rian’s company: https://postmarkapp.com/
Rian’s book: https://www.amazon.com/Making-Right-Product-Management-Startup-ebook/dp/B00M0KTVTO
The Design Of Everyday Things: https://www.amazon.com/Design-Everyday-Things-Revised-Expanded/dp/0465050654/
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(00:00) - Introductions
(08:38) - Getting started in product management
(15:48) - Rian's book about product management
(23:00) - Empowering teams to make critical decisions
(25:12) - The value of writing
(30:13) - From product management to GM
(34:39) - Staying close to customers

Mar 10, 2023 • 43min
Office Hours Live 015: Know your competition
Blake and Steve chat with Blake Ziolkowski (of LaunchNotes’ sales team) about competitive intelligence. Blake Z. also shares his number one question to ask competitive customers.
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LaunchNotes ROI Survey: https://www.launchnotes.com/blog/roi-of-launchnotes
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(00:00) - Introductions
(01:45) - Where does competitive intel work best within a sales team?
(09:45) - Customer success as a differentiator
(11:22) - Balancing the type and amount of competitive intel you share
(16:28) - The best question to ask competitive customers
(20:24) - Thoughts on ROI surveys
(31:53) - Picking up patterns in customer feedback
(34:05) - Sharing customer insights internally
(39:02) - Finding product market fit in a competitive market

Mar 8, 2023 • 54min
Competitive Intel for Product Managers with Andy McCotter-Bicknell (ClickUp, ZoomInfo)
Steve Klein (@stevenklein - https://twitter.com/blakethorne) of LaunchNotes talks with Andy McCotter-Bicknell (Head of Competitive Intel @ ClickUp) about how competitive research can help sharpen your product strategy, and how to effectively do it at your company.
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Andy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewmccotterbicknell
Andy on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@healthycompetition
Andy’s competitive intel course: https://competitiveplaybook.com/
Andy’s podcast and community: https://healthycompetition.co/
Competitive intel tool: https://www.similarweb.com/
A tool for helping you write better emails: https://www.lavender.ai/
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(00:00) - Introductions
(03:07) - Building a competitive intelligence program
(05:53) - Should you focus on competitors?
(15:34) - 3 sources for gathering competitive intel
(23:15) - Tips for building a win/loss program
(28:46) - Tips for ensuring customer research insights don’t go dormant
(36:07) - Thoughts on G2 and Capterra
(43:18) - Tips for requesting an interview
(46:03) - How do you learn about a competitor’s pricing model when they don't publish it on their website?
(49:04) - How does competitive intel change over the size and growth of a company?
(50:42) - Andy's course on competitive intel

Mar 6, 2023 • 38min
What the CEO wants from product leaders with Fran Rosch (ForgeRock, Symantec)
Blake Thorne (@blakethorne - https://twitter.com/blakethorne) of LaunchNotes talks with Fran Rosch (https://www.linkedin.com/in/franrosch/ - CEO of ForgeRock, previously of Symantec), about what he expects from product leaders. They discuss important traits of product leaders, and Fran shares his thoughts on defining vision, purpose, mission, and strategy.
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Fran’c company: https://www.forgerock.com/
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(00:00) - Introductions
(02:32) - What do CEOs look for from product leaders?
(05:32) - Leveraging qualitative data to drive company & product strategy
(12:10) - Strategy frameworks
(15:22) - The important trait of “judgment” in product management
(12:34) - What Fran is most excited about right now at ForgeRock
(23:25) - Thoughts on vision, purpose, mission, and strategy
(29:55) - General availability tips from a CEO

Mar 2, 2023 • 27min
Building a product audience from scratch with Yi Wang (Journeey, Plaid)
Blake Thorne (@blakethorne - https://twitter.com/blakethorne) of LaunchNotes talks with Yi Wang of Journeey about her path to becoming a founder and how she has built an audience by creating a dialogue early on. Yi also shares some tips for new founders who are getting started with building a product.
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Yi’s startup: https://journeeyapp.com/
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(00:00) - Introductions
(05:56) - Becoming a founder
(07:47) - Collecting feedback early on
(14:42) - The importance of targeting communication with your users
(20:21) - Advice for new founders

Feb 28, 2023 • 44min
Product lessons from Uber, Linear, and more with Daniel Liem
Blake Thorne (@blakethorne - https://twitter.com/blakethorne) of LaunchNotes talks with Daniel Liem about his experience working on products at Uber and Linear. Daniel shares insights on how Uber managed to ship fast while scaling quickly and he gives listeners tips on how to work smarter by leveraging automation.
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Daniel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/dcliem
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(00:00) - Introductions
(08:29) - How uber shipped quickly
(13:02) - Striking a balance between ambition and scalability
(25:20) - Vision, persistence, and automation
(33:11) - Working smarter with more automation

Feb 26, 2023 • 43min
Space cameras, 18-wheelers, & product management with Rahul Chhabria (Apple, Atlassian, Sentry)
Blake Thorne (@blakethorne - https://twitter.com/blakethorne) of LaunchNotes talks with Rahul Chhabria (https://www.linkedin.com/in/rahulchhabria/) of Sentry (formerly Atlassian and Apple) about the diverse career path that lead him to tech, including roles in product, marketing, and growth.
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Rahul on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rahulchhabria/
One of Rahul’s favorite products: https://feedly.com/
Another one of Rahul’s favorite products: https://www.sonos.com/en-us/
Rahul’s home automation tinkering project: https://www.raspberrypi.com/
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đź“ť Show notes
(00:00) - Introductions
(06:05) - Starting a career in tech
(13:25) - Building relationships with engineers as a product manager
(23:25) - From product management to product marketing
(31:15) - From product marketing to growth
(37:45) - Advice for new product managers
(39:05) - Rahul’s favorite products
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