

Sales Gravy: Jeb Blount
Jeb Blount
From the author of Fanatical Prospecting and the company that re-invented sales training, the Sales Gravy Podcast helps you win bigger, sell better, elevate your game, and make more money fast.
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May 28, 2021 • 52min
Choice Based Closing Skills
Jeb Blount and Michelle Rockwood discuss choice based closing skills, avoiding pushy sales tactics. Topics include acquiring sales skills through genuine connection, empowering clients in decision-making, and using personalized video messages for engagement. They emphasize building trust, asking the right questions, and adopting a heart-centered approach in sales conversations.

May 21, 2021 • 47min
Empathy, Diversity, and Selling in a Post-Pandemic World
On this episode of the Sales Gravy Podcast, Jeb Blount and Cherilynn Castleman, author of What's in the C.A.R.D.S., discuss sales team diversity, why women are better at sales than men, the power of empathy, and key things you need to know about selling in a post-pandemic world. You'll love this conversation and you'll especially want to pay attention to Cherilynn's 4Fs!
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May 6, 2021 • 37min
Mastering the Internal Sale
OUCH! The internal sale was more challenging than closing the actual deal!
A brutal truth about B2B sales is that the internal sale (the sale after the sale) is often more challenging than the external sale (getting your prospect to sign the deal). Many sales professionals struggle with the internal sale because they don't understand how to get past those organizational hurdles.
On this powerful episode of the Sales Gravy Podcast, Jeb Blount and Victor Antonio take you step-by-step through the behavioral and mindset shifts you must make in order to master the internal sale. You'll learn immediate techniques and tactics for getting your deals embraced and approved by your organization.
TEXT JEB: We want to hear from you. Let us know what you think about this episode – we love your comments and questions. Just send Jeb a text message at 1-706-397-4599 or CLICK HERE TO TEXT.

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May 3, 2021 • 31min
Sales Fitness
If you are tired of being tired, you'll love this Sales Gravy Podcast episode.
Jeb Blount and Rachel Pitts (Women Your Mother Warned You About) offer tips for staying fit. For sales professionals, to out wit and out perform your competitors, you need to be physically fit because mental energy is limited by your physical energy.
Jeb and Rachel focus on the golden triangle of fitness: Sleep, Nutrition, and Motion
We want to hear from you. Let us know what you think about this episode – we love your comments and questions. Just send Jeb a text message at 1-706-397-4599 or CLICK HERE TO TEXT.

Apr 30, 2021 • 23min
Sales Process Pivot Points | Jeb Blount & Diane Helbig | Part Four
On this Sales Gravy Podcast episode Jeb Blount (Sales EQ) and Diane Helbig (Succeed Without Selling) discuss the power of mapping and uncovering sales process pivot points.
You will learn how these pivot points help bend win probability in your favor and offer important clues for when it may be time to walk away from a deal.
Listen to Part One – Selling Without Selling
Listen to Part Two – Intentional Empathy
Listen to Part Three - Sales is a Process

Apr 23, 2021 • 15min
Sales is a Process | Jeb Blount & Diane Helbig | Part Three
On this Sales Gravy Podcast episode Jeb Blount (Sales EQ) and Diane Helbig (Succeed Without Selling) discuss why sales is a process. You will learn about pre-call planning, the science of selling and why winging it on sales calls is wickedly stupid.
Listen to Part One - Selling Without Selling
Listen to Part Two - Intentional Empathy

Apr 15, 2021 • 10min
Intentional Empathy | Jeb Blount & Diane Helbig | Part Two
On this Sales Gravy Podcast episode Jeb Blount (Sales EQ) and Diane Helbig (Succeed Without Selling) discuss intentional empathy discuss and it is a meta-skill in complex sales.
Empathy is the key to stepping into your buyer's shoes, understanding their situation, and building relationships.
Yet, the best salespeople are naturally less empathetic and more self-centered. Therefore, to be more effective at closing complex sales, they must focus on and leverage intentional empathy.
Listen to Part One – Selling Without Selling
Listen to Part Three – Sales is a Process
Becoming Other-Focused
Jeb: The statistics and scientific data tell us that salespeople who are more self-centered over time, have a tendency to do better than people who are more empathetic. Now there's a reason for that.
That exists in sales, and even as a business owner, you need to be a little bit self-centered because you have to put all your effort into your business. How do we, as naturally self-centered people, shift into becoming other-focused?
Really Get To Know Your Prospect
Diane: If you believe that being interested in other people is how you're going to get to a goal, and that goal is to have really great business with people and companies you really like and can really help, you naturally want to do whatever it takes to make that happen. Long-term, that's going to be what's best for your business and best for you.
So then if you say, “The only way I'm going to know whether this is a relationship I should enter into is by learning about them. So I just have to make that happen.” Your focus has to be on discovery, investigation, archeology, whatever you want to call it, so that I can learn as much about them— not just about the problem they're having that I could solve— but about them, how they work, their philosophies, their values, etc.
Those things are all part of being in a business relationship. The more I know, the more I'm going to be able to identify how I can help them. And then I can shine because I'm going to be able to point it out to them. I'm really able to say, “This is what I heard, this is how we can help.”
It's hard to have objections when I really heard what you said and I’m matching everything that you told me. Then we're both walking down the same road. I think it comes down to really understanding what you want and the way to get there is by knowing as much as you possibly can about your prospect.
The Best Objection In Sales
Jeb: Yesterday, I was doing a training with a group of veteran salespeople and we were talking about objections. And one of the things I said to them is, “The best objection that you get is the one that never shows up.” And it doesn't show up because you did all the work up front and you got to know them.
As you got to know them, either the objections got on the table or the objections just went away and it's often when you go, “Hello, wanna buy?” you know, that's when the objections go up. So I think what you said about making sure that you're doing all of that homework is really important.
You're doing sales archeology and understanding them and as you pull all of that information in, you're matching your recommendations to what they see as both their success criteria and their evaluation criteria for doing business with you. And when you match it up, there's no objection. It just makes sense to do business together for both of you.
Build Trust And Show Up As A Professional
Diane: If it doesn't match up, it doesn't match up. So you say, “Listen, I'm not the best resource for you. Let me point you towards somebody who is.” And there's no weird conversation, but this is also why the salesperson has to ask a lot of questions and questions that are uncomfortable like the budget question or the decision-making question.
There are ways of asking those questions so that you just continue to build trust and show up as a professional.

Apr 13, 2021 • 11min
Succeed Without Selling | Diane Helbig & Jeb Blount | Part One
This Sales Gravy Podcast episode is part one of Jeb Blount's (Virtual Selling) conversation with Diane Helbig (Succeed Without Selling) about why for business owners, entrepreneurs, and sales professionals success in selling and business growth really isn't about "selling." Instead, when you focus on solving problems, that's when the real magic happens.
Listen to Part Two – Intentional Empathy
Listen to Part Three – Sales is a Process
We want to hear from you. Let us know what you think about this episode – we love your comments and questions. Just send Jeb a text message at 1-706-397-4599 or CLICK HERE TO TEXT.
Ps. You can access Sales Gravy University Here
Why Did You Choose To Write This Book?
Diane: The book is called Succeed Without Selling: The More You Think About Selling The Less You'll Sell. I decided to write it because so many salespeople and small business owners are, in my estimation, behaving badly because they are so focused on selling that they're not getting what they want. They're not getting the results that they want and it's frustrating.
And so I thought, this is what I teach when I do sales training. What if I could put it into a book and just tell them everything about sales mindset? You know, what happens when you do this, but what happens when you do that, with scripts and, and templates in the back of the book.
If I can just give them everything, hopefully, a bell will go off in their head and they'll start doing things differently and achieve better results.
So Why Does Being Successful in Sales Have Nothing To Do With Selling?
Diane: When salespeople are selling, they are thinking about themselves. They're thinking about the fact that they have to hit quota, that they have to get revenue, that they have to do all of these things. Their mindset is, “I need to convince you that you need what I have to sell. I have to be eloquent enough and say the right things. I have to be persuasive.”
They do it at networking events, they do it when they're in a sales meeting, they do it all the time. And the truth is that when salespeople behave that way, they don't get the sale because they're not listening. They're not matching what they have to what that person needs. They're not hearing what the situation is.
So that's why I say that it's not about selling. It's about solving, right? It's about connecting and making sure that it's a good fit because that's how you get long-term business relationships that serve your business for decades.
Sales Is Not About Selling, It's About Solving
Jeb: I totally agree with you. Not that long ago, I was doing training out in Oregon and one of the people in my class was an ex CIA agent. I was teaching some concepts out of Sales EQ around human influence frameworks.
And he grabbed me and said, “What's the difference between what you're teaching and what we were doing as CIA agents? Essentially, when we were bringing people in, we were using the same frameworks you're teaching to get people to turn over information or rat out someone else. And I said, “The human brain works the way the human brain works."
For example, if you listen to someone, it makes them like you more. It's just how we operate. And if they like you more and you listen to them, they're more likely to give you something because you made them feel good. I mean, that's just basic influence frameworks, but what you said is exactly how I explained it to him.
I said, “In your line of work, you were using these influence frameworks to manipulate people into giving you what you wanted. And in my line of work, I help people, and I solve problems."
"I'm Not The Right Fit For You"
Jeb: The very last thing I want to do is sell someone something, or do something for someone that they don't want or don't need. And that doesn't mean that I couldn't because I'm pretty good at influencing people and persuading people. I could certainly do that.

Apr 3, 2021 • 7min
God Uses Broken Things | How to Grow From Adversity
On this episode of the Sales Gravy podcast, Jeb Blount focuses on brokeness and the two common mindsets of highly successful people and how to grow from adversity.
This past week I stumbled on this quote passage from Vance Havner.
God uses broken things: broken soil to produce a crop, broken clouds to give rain, broken grain to give bread, broken bread to give strength and broken people to do great things.
We have all been broken in some way, no matter what your path, no matter where you came from, no matter where you started, no matter where you finished, no matter how rich you are, how poor you are, everyone at some level has been broken.
That's good news because as human beings, brokeness binds us together. It's the one thing that we all have in common.
When we have faced that adversity and we have grown from it, is a story that we can tell other people. It's something we have that's part of us that we can share, and we can help other people with.
One of the things I've noticed recently is that there are a lot of people out there that are doing everything possible to avoid being broken, avoid adversity, and avoid even being bent.
They avoid pain and they shy away from obstacles. This is a mistake because adversity - being broken - is our greatest teacher. It is through the crucible of adversity that we become stronger.
Transformation
Sometimes we're so broken that it transforms us. It changes us. We come back from that deep pain, different than who we were before.
Sometimes it opens up our eyes so that we can truly see. Other times it opens up our heart so that we can truly feel and love. That's the power of brokenness.
God uses broken things.
The Two Most Important Mindsets
I've had the privilege of traveling to every continent on the globe except Antarctica. Along the way I've met some incredible people from all walks of life. What I've learned about successful people, is that ultimately they share two mindsets in common.
First, they believe that there is a higher power in their lives that put them on Earth for a purpose, and they're supposed to fulfill that purpose. In other words, they believe that they're supposed to be successful in their walk in life.
The second thing they believe is that everything happens for a reason. This is the strongest of the two because this mindset gives you strength. This mindset frees you from the chains of victimhood.
This mindset that everything happens for a reason, allows you to learn from being broken.
Learn from adversity, learn from pain, learn from the bad things that are going to happen to you; and trust me, bad things are going to happen to you. You will be broken again and again and again.
The Choice
What successful people realize is that this is just part of walking through life and you have a choice about how you view this brokenness.
If it makes you a victim, you learn nothing. It holds you down, holds you back, and leads to misery and suffering.
On the other hand, if you believe that God (or your personal higher power) uses broken things on purpose, then you ask to most uplifting question: "What am I supposed to learn from this?"
Sometimes what you learn is that you were broken because you were on the wrong path and that you need to get back to your purpose. In other situations, it's a signal that you need to make a quick course correction. What you were doing wasn't working. Try something new.
Sometimes being broken gets you fired up. It's becomes the fuel and the motivation to get back up, dust yourself off, and run back into the game.
God uses broken things, broken soul to produce a crop, broken clouds to give rain, broken grain to give bread, broken bread to give strength and broken people to do great things.
Ps. You can access Sales Gravy University Here

Mar 28, 2021 • 9min
How to Balance Prospecting Activity with Account Management
On this episode of the Sales Gravy podcast, Jeb Blount (Fanatical Prospecting) answers a listener's question about how to effectively balance prospecting for new logos with serving and managing existing accounts.
Balance Prospecting and Account Management
Maggie is a member of my insider group, and she asked me a pretty important question about how to balance prospecting and account management.
“I'm a top salesperson, and I want to stay on top. But one of the things about my job is that I have to manage and service my existing accounts, and I have to go out and look for new logos and new opportunities. And the more business that I sell, the harder it is for me to prospect to go find new opportunities so that I can sell more."
If in your sales job, you have to go hunt new accounts and you have to manage the accounts that you go out and close, then Maggie's question makes a lot of sense. It's hard to be a hunter and a zookeeper at the same time.
Going out, prospecting, facing rejection, knocking on doors, picking up the phone, and calling people is completely different than servicing your accounts, upselling, cross-selling, and retaining the business that you have.
This is one of the key reasons why people struggle to balance prospecting with account management.
Prospecting Sucks
The truth is, in most cases, you struggle to strike a balance because prospecting sucks and you don't want to do it. It's a whole lot easier to call up an existing account, solve their problems, do customer service, and upsell and cross-sell with people that already know you than it is to pick up the phone and call an invisible stranger.
It's a whole lot easier to call a friend than to call someone that will probably reject you, because that's what happens in prospecting. You get a lot of rejection. So you say that you struggle with balance, but the reason that you're struggling is that you don't have any balance. You spend all of your time managing accounts and none of your time prospecting.
Next, you procrastinate and put off prospecting. You find every excuse not to prospect. Having an account base gives you really good excuses not to prospect, so you don't. The need to prospect and the need to fill up your pipeline begins to add up.
You Can't Do All of Your Prospecting At Once
Your sales manager is saying, “Hey, you have to go find me some new business,” and you're not making the commissions that you want to make. There's a lot of pressure on you. So suddenly you're faced with, “Oh my goodness gracious, I have to prospect.” Then you try to pile all of your prospecting into one day.
Desperately, you try to do it all at one time. That's when you start to run into big problems because you have the demands of your existing account base and you have to prospect. And nobody wants to spend an entire day prospecting because as I said earlier, prospecting sucks. Suddenly, you're overwhelmed with this big old pile of prospecting that you have to do.
So you don't prospect. Instead, you go back to account management, which makes the problem worse. Because you're overwhelmed and stressed out, you feel out of balance.
You start looking for an easy button solution to a problem that, if you're honest with yourself, you created. Not because of your workload, but because you were avoiding prospecting in the first place.
Prospect Every Single Day
The key is that you need to prospect a little bit every day. And when you do a little bit of prospecting every single day, you begin to take advantage of the cumulative impact of all those little bits of activity.
Breaking up your prospecting activity into little bits that you do every single day also makes it easier. It's a lot more palatable to do the things that you don't want to do in small chunks than to save it all up and do it at one time.
The first thing you want to do is begin blocking time out for prospecting. That means that it needs to be on your calendar.