

LaunchPod | Product Management Podcast
LogRocket
LaunchPod is a product management podcast hosted by LogRocket's CEO, Matt Arbesfeld, and VP of Marketing, Jeff Wharton, where they talk to product leaders about the issues they faced in their careers, how they found solutions to those issues, and how you can apply these solutions in your own day-to-day product role.
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Nov 18, 2025 • 27min
When CPO Becomes CMO: The Expanding Role of Product Leaders | Karen Chao (Flowspace)
Today, we’re joined by Karen Chao, Chief Product Officer at Flowspace, an ecommerce logistics platform, where she’s also taken on a role as head of marketing. Previously, Karen held product leadership roles at Apple, Replicon, Innit, and more.
In this episode, Karen shares:
How she ended up running Marketing on top of Product, and how bringing these two functions under one leader has improved go-to-market for Flowspace
The biggest surprises she’s uncovered running marketing as a product leader, from chaotic tool stacks to the next wave of AI-powered go-to-market automation
And how Flowspace’s product team uses AI tools like Cursor and Claude to accelerate discovery and prototyping, and even ship small bug fixes straight to production without Engineers involved
Links
Karen's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karen1chao/
Flowspace: https://flow.space/
Resources
(Ethically) cheat your way to $250M+ | Mikal Lewis, Product Exec. (Whole Foods, Nordstrom): https://youtu.be/5txeT2U_YQo
Chapters
00:00: Intro
02:06: Karen's career highlights
03:59: How Karen and Flowspace are using AI in their team workflows
15:11: The intersection of product and marketing
22:13: What's surprised Karen most about transitioning from product to marketing
29:12: Conclusion
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What does LogRocket do?
LogRocket's Galileo AI watches user sessions for you and surfaces the technical and usability issues holding back your web and mobile apps. Understand where your users are struggling by trying it for free at LogRocket.com.Special Guest: Karen Chao.

Nov 13, 2025 • 24min
When AI Makes Engineering Too Fast for Product Teams | Oji Udezue (ex-Typeform & Calendly)
On today’s episode of LaunchPod, we’ve got something special for you. Normally, you’d have to join us in person at one of the dinners we host for product leaders to hear this talk from Oji Udezue. But the response has been so great, we had to bring him onto the show again.
Oji has previously held product leadership roles at Typeform, Twitter, Calendly, and Atlassian. Today, he’s joining us to share a major problem in product delivery that he’s seeing as AI adoption increases across teams.
In this episode, we discuss:
The “three-speed problem,” as Oji calls it – how AI will bring about a 10x increase in engineering velocity. But where does that leave product management and go-to-market teams if they can’t keep up?
Why AI is a BS term, as it’s really five new AND distinct capabilities – and how to use those as a framework for smarter product strategy
And how his “shipyard model” for product teams will ensure you keep up and thrive, even as AI reshapes how we build software
Links
Oji’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ojiudezue/
ProductMind: https://www.productmind.co/
Building Rocketships: Product Management for High-Growth Companies: https://www.productmind.co/building-rocketships-book
Resources
Oji’s past LaunchPod episode: https://www.productmind.co/building-rocketships-book
Claude: https://claude.ai/
Cursor: https://cursor.com/
Windsurf: https://windsurf.com/
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
1:21 Building Rocket Ships by Oji and Ezinne Udezue
1:55 What is the shipyard model in product?
5:20 The evolution of technology: Why AI is just a new technology level
7:50 The 5 flavors of AI
13:23 The limiting function of development is no longer the speed of engineering – but what is it now?
17:05 Solving the three-speed problem
21:32 Conclusion
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What does LogRocket do?
LogRocket's Galileo AI watches user sessions for you and surfaces the technical and usability issues holding back your web and mobile apps. Understand where your users are struggling by trying it for free at LogRocket.com.Special Guest: Oji Udezue.

Nov 4, 2025 • 34min
Product Lessons from a $3B Bootstrapped eCom Platform | Trevin Chow, CPO (Big Cartel)
Today, we’re joined by Trevin Chow, Chief Product Officer at Big Cartel, an ecommerce platform for independent creators to turn their art into income. Previously, Trevin held product leadership roles at Nike, Microsoft, Axon, and more.
In this episode, Trevin shares:
How they thread the needle between brand history and innovation — respecting a 20+ year legacy while still driving towards the future
His process for creating “simple magic” by making features so simple, they delight users — even if that trades less customization for better ease of use
How AI is transforming product and design workflows by drastically cutting down the time between idea and innovation
And what product leaders can learn from rethinking simple as a benefit rather than a constraint
Links
LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/trevin/
Navan: https://www.bigcartel.com/
Resources
Lovable: https://lovable.dev/
Unblocked: https://getunblocked.com/
Chapters
00:00: Intro
03:22: The product journey that led Trevin to Big Cartel
05:55: Big Cartel's 20+ year legacy and how they look at innovation
12:28: Why simplicity can trump complexity in software
13:26: Products and features that delight ft. an example from Alaska Airlines
18:03: Why Big Cartel launched a "pause subscription" button, and the value it drove
21:09: What makes features appear "magical" in today's product landscape
23:06: The overlap between product management and product design
23:40: Trevin's guide to hiring for curiosity and grit
33:17: Conclusion
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What does LogRocket do?
LogRocket's Galileo AI watches user sessions for you and surfaces the technical and usability issues holding back your web and mobile apps. Understand where your users are struggling by trying it for free at LogRocket.com.Special Guest: Trevin Chow.

Oct 28, 2025 • 28min
How Tinder Swiped Right on Customer Experience | Curtis Stevens (ex-Tinder)
Today, we’re talking with Curtis Stevens, who, until recently, was Tinder’s Director of Product Consumer Insights, and prior to that held product leadership roles at Qualtrics, Amazon, and more.
In this episode, Curtis shares:
How AI can actually be a tool for human connection
His process behind Tinder’s transformation into customer-centricity, with real, measurable results
How to balance short-term user joy with long-term product innovation and future features
And how AI is driving customer experience changes faster than research can follow, and what you can do to keep up
Links
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/curtis-b-stevens/
Chapters
00:00: Intro
03:03: Curtis Stevens' product journey
7:40: Challenges and strategies in customer experience
14:54: Curtis' journey workshops
20:41: AI's role in customer research
27:41: Conclusion
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What does LogRocket do?
LogRocket's Galileo AI watches user sessions for you and surfaces the technical and usability issues holding back your web and mobile apps. Understand where your users are struggling by trying it for free at LogRocket.com.Special Guest: Curtis Stevens.

Oct 23, 2025 • 9min
The Hidden AI Revolution in Construction | Rajitha Chaparala (Procore)
On today’s episode, we’re talking with Rajitha Chaparala, VP of Product at Procore, a construction management solution and one of the most successful examples of vertical SaaS out there today.
In this episode, we discuss:
How Rajitha and her team are using LLMs to streamline complex processes like requests for information (RFIs), project revisions, and construction site walkthroughs
Why building trust and showing real, immediate value were key to getting AI buy-in from construction professionals, historically hesitant to adopt new tech
Why Rajitha believes this is construction’s moment for AI, and how the shift from skepticism to curiosity happened almost overnight
Links
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajithachaparala/
Procore: www.procore.com
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
00:48: The complexity of construction and technology adoption
02:00: AI streamlining Requests for Information (RFIs) in construction
04:00: Why LLMs are ideal for construction's unstructured data
06:00: Building trust for AI adoption
08:00: The future of construction thanks to AI adoption
Follow LaunchPod on YouTube
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What does LogRocket do?
LogRocket's Galileo AI watches user sessions for you and surfaces the technical and usability issues holding back your web and mobile apps. Understand where your users are struggling by trying it for free at LogRocket.com.Special Guest: Rajitha Chaparala.

Oct 16, 2025 • 30min
Linear’s Secret to Building Powerful AI Products | Nan Yu, VP of Product (Linear)
Today, we’re joined again by Nan Yu, Head of Product at Linear.
In this episode, Nan shares:
Why you’re wrong to think of AI as a way to reduce costs -- and why the real value is in enabling new work that was previously impossible
The 3 must-haves he’s deduced from across the most successful AI products to produce consistently great outcomes for users
The behind-the-scenes details of Linear’s new Agent Interaction Guidelines
Links
Nan's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thenanyu/
Nan's X: https://x.com/thenanyu?lang=en
Linear: https://linear.app/
Linear's previous episode of LaunchPod: https://youtu.be/7ISWLoQtNOc?si=dNKmSdQ98eqis_JW
Resources
Linear's Agent Interaction Guidelines: https://linear.app/developers/aig
Granola.ai: https://www.granola.ai/
Cursor: https://cursor.com/
Chapters
00:00: Intro
03:24: Using AI as a harness, the systems and context layers that make AI tools repeatable and useful at scale
07:54: Scaling AI tools to ensure consistency and quality
14:14: Analyzing user interaction, tweak time, and feedback
18:29: Linear's new Agent Interaction Guidelines
22:14: How AI is changing the role of engineers
27:42: AI's impact on junior roles
30:10: Conclusion
Follow LaunchPod on YouTube
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What does LogRocket do?
LogRocket's Galileo AI watches user sessions for you and surfaces the technical and usability issues holding back your web and mobile apps. Understand where your users are struggling by trying it for free at LogRocket.com.Special Guest: Nan Yu.

Oct 9, 2025 • 32min
Reinventing SaaS: Zuora's AI Transformation | Karthik Chakkarapani and Shakir Karim (Zuora)
Today, we’re joined by Shakir Karim (Senior VP of Product) and Karthik Chakkarapani (CIO & Senior VP of Corporate Operations) from Zuora.
In this episode, Shakir and Karthik discuss:
Why they believe AI is a bigger inflection point than web, mobile, or cloud
Their internal AI agent workflow that automatically resolves thousands of service requests instantly, freeing teams to focus on strategy
How they cut a major feature deployment step from 14 days to 10 minutes using Claude Code
Why prompt-a-thons and hackathons have been vital for driving not just AI adoption but AI literacy
Links
Shakir's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shakir-karim/
Karthik's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chakraj/
Zuora: https://www.zuora.com/
Resources
Trupeer: https://www.trupeer.ai/
Gemini Storybook: https://gemini.google/overview/storybook/
NotebookLM: https://notebooklm.google/
Chapters
00:00: Intro
02:15: Zuora's 10x initiative
07:00: Zuora's internal AI agent
10:00: Accelerating content creation using Trupeer
12:00: Cutting video content creation down from 4 weeks to 5 hours
17:00: AI in practical workflow
22:00: Scaling AI innovation and literacy internally
28:32: AI prompathons and hackathons
29:54: Conclusion
Follow LaunchPod on YouTube
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What does LogRocket do?
LogRocket's Galileo AI watches user sessions for you and surfaces the technical and usability issues holding back your web and mobile apps. Understand where your users are struggling by trying it for free at LogRocket.com.Special Guests: Karthik Chakkarapani and Shakir Karim.

Oct 7, 2025 • 24min
The Secrets Behind a 30x AI Product Team | Zac Hays, CPO (Luxury Presence)
Today, we’re joined by Zac Hays, CPO at Luxury Presence, a fast-growing real estate tech platform that made a huge bet on AI adoption across the company..
In this episode, we discuss:
Luxury Presence's 30x Value Principle and how they rethought goals and projects to have exponential-level impact
The AI design sprint process that allowed the company to 20x product velocity
How their mandatory AI bug triage policy has cut resolution time by 80%
Links
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zacthepm/
Zac's AI-Powered Design Print Playbook: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ai-powered-design-sprint-playbook-v01-zac-hays-iu1dc/
Luxury Presence: https://www.luxurypresence.com/
AirOps: https://www.airops.com/
Userbrain: https://www.userbrain.com/en/
Chapters
00:00: Intro
03:31: How Luxury Presence started tinkering with AI
08:15: Automating bug fixes (the 80% reduction)
10:50: Zac's "AI Design Sprint" process
14:00: Using AI to tackle tech debt and codebase rewrites
19:04: Building an "autonomous" AI marketing team
22:22: Conclusion
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What does LogRocket do?
LogRocket's Galileo AI watches user sessions for you and surfaces the technical and usability issues holding back your web and mobile apps. Understand where your users are struggling by trying it for free at LogRocket.com.Special Guest: Zac Hays.

Sep 30, 2025 • 33min
Zapier’s AI Transformation Playbook with Phil Lakin (Zapier)
Today, we’re joined by Phil Lakin, Head of Enterprise Innovation at Zapier.
In this episode, we discuss:
How Phil built No-Code Ops into a thriving community and SaaS product - and what led to its acquisition by Zapier
Why Phil ended up leading the initiative on Zapier’s first solution-based product, and the decision process behind making it Lead Router
How Zapier is driving AI transformation across both their org and others with hands-on bootcamps, agent workflows, and a 97% AI literacy rate among employees
Links
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philip-lakin/
Zapier: https://zapier.com/
NoCodeOps: https://www.nocodeops.com/
Chapters
00:00: Intro
01:30: How Phil built the No-Code Ops community and why Zapier acquired it
05:45: Building Lead Router and how it shaped Zapier's roadmap
10:20: Building with Zapier Primitives
15:10: How Zapier achieved 97% AI literacy
20:25: AI agents and workflow automation
26:40: Tactics for bringing employees on board with new AI tools
32:55: What other companies can learn from Zapier’s AI transformation
39:15: Where Phil sees AI, no-code, and automation heading next.
44:00: Conclusion
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What does LogRocket do?
LogRocket's Galileo AI watches user sessions for you and surfaces the technical and usability issues holding back your web and mobile apps. Understand where your users are struggling by trying it for free at LogRocket.com.Special Guest: Phil Lakin.

Sep 25, 2025 • 9min
Copilot, Claude, & OptiGPT: The AI Stack Driving Optimizely
How is Optimizely reshaping experimentation with AI? Cory Liebgott, VP of Product at Optimizely, joins LaunchPod to share how her team is using AI into both customer-facing solutions and their own product workflows.
Cory shares how her team:
Uses Copilot and Claude for everything from PRD writing and meeting recaps to translating technical language into accessible insights
Developed OptiGPT, an internal AI assistant that surfaces customer data, product knowledge, and HR policies in seconds
Built a customer-facing AI query tool that also became a surprise hit internally for measuring customer health and engagement
Encourages a culture of experimentation where PMs demo and share AI tools, turning emergent use cases into productivity boosts across teams
Links
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cliebgott/
Optimizely: https://www.optimizely.com/
Chapters
00:38 Exploring AI tools as a team
01:43 Real-world AI productivity wins
03:16 Inside OptiGPT: Optimizely’s AI assistant
04:08 Using AI for research and prototyping
05:10 When AI surprises: Emergent capabilities
06:22 Lessons learned: Sharing and experimenting
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What does LogRocket do?
LogRocket's Galileo AI watches user sessions for you and surfaces the technical and usability issues holding back your web and mobile apps. Understand where your users are struggling by trying it for free at LogRocket.com.Special Guest: Cory Liebgott.


