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Jan 20, 2026 • 44min

Better Posture for Adventure Educators | Elijah Matelson

Phil is joined by Elijah Matelson (@eli.james) to explore the significance of posture in maintaining long-term health and preventing injuries. Elijah shares his personal journey with posture, emphasizing the importance of being aware of how our bodies feel and move throughout the day. They discuss practical daily habits to improve posture, the necessity of preparing the body for physical demands, and the shift from a reactive to a proactive approach in health. The conversation concludes with actionable tips for listeners to enhance their posture and overall well-being. Posture is about how you feel in your body. Good posture can reduce aches and pains. Emotional state can influence physical posture. Personal experiences can shape our understanding of posture. Daily habits can significantly improve posture. Awareness of body positions is crucial for health. Proactive health practices are more effective than reactive ones. Strength, mobility, and agility are key components of fitness. Simple movements can lead to significant improvements in posture. The environment we expose our bodies to affects our posture. Find Elijah on the following socials; Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/eli.james/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/eli.matelson/ Contact the podcast - podcast@high5adventure.org Support the podcast - verticalplaypen.org
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Jan 13, 2026 • 28min

Risk and Adventure | Ty Gagne

In this engaging conversation, Phil Brown, Lisa Hunt, and Ty Gagne (Author of The Last Traverse, Where You'll Find Me and The Lions of Winter) explore the intricate relationship between risk and adventure. They discuss the importance of understanding risk heuristics, the dynamics of group decision-making, and the role of certifications in adventure education. Ty shares insights on how to learn from mistakes, the significance of communication in emergency situations, and the emotional challenges faced when telling stories of loss and adventure. The discussion also touches on the evolving perception of risk and the importance of encouraging adventure in a risk-averse society. Adventure inherently involves risk and uncertainty. Fear can be a beneficial aspect of adventure. Heuristics are mental shortcuts that can lead to cognitive traps. Situational awareness is crucial for safety in familiar environments. Group dynamics significantly influence individual risk tolerance. Certifications are important but should not replace personal judgment. Learning from mistakes is essential for growth and safety. Effective communication is vital in emergency situations. Team dynamics can enhance or hinder safety in adventure settings. Personal reflections on risk can lead to deeper understanding and empathy. Learn more about Ty and his books - https://www.fullconditionsnh.com/ Connect with the podcast - podcast@high5adventure.org Support the podcast - verticalplaypen.org
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Dec 23, 2025 • 23min

When In Doubt...Give Them Your Heart | Jim Grout

This is episode 300! In this conversation, Jim Grout discusses his new book, emphasizing the importance of connection in leadership. He shares personal experiences that shaped his beliefs, the significance of authenticity, and the role of storytelling in effective leadership. The discussion also highlights the value of reflection and embracing uncertainty as a leader, ultimately encouraging listeners to lead with their hearts. Leadership is rooted in connection rather than process. Teachers exemplify the ultimate form of leadership through connection. Caring is essential in leadership; people respond to those who care. The title of the book reflects the importance of leading with heart. Reflection questions in the book are designed to prompt personal growth. Authenticity is crucial; leaders should be true to themselves. Surrounding oneself with knowledgeable people enhances leadership effectiveness. Embracing uncertainty is a natural part of leadership. Storytelling is a powerful tool for connecting with others. The world needs leaders who make good things happen. Get the book - https://high5adventure.org/heart Connect with the podcast - podcast@high5adventure.org Support the podcast - www.verticalplaypen.org
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Dec 16, 2025 • 37min

Learning That Lasts | Katrina Kennedy

In this conversation, Phil Brown and Katrina Kennedy explore the themes of learning and development, reflection, and facilitation. Katrina shares her insights on how reflection is not just about looking back but is action-oriented, emphasizing the importance of facilitating effective learning experiences. They discuss the evolution of facilitation, the role of silence, and the importance of connection in the learning process. Katrina also provides an overview of her book, which includes practical activities for facilitators to enhance their skills and engage learners effectively. Learning and development encompasses various methods to help people perform effectively. Reflection is action-oriented, focusing on what to do next after recalling experiences. Facilitators should prioritize the needs of the learners over their own presentation style. Silence in facilitation can be a powerful tool for reflection and engagement. Facilitators must be adaptable and comfortable with the unknown during sessions. Pre-reflection, mid-reflection, and post-reflection are crucial for effective learning. Follow-up after training enhances behavior change and connection. Individual reflection can be more valuable than group report-outs. Facilitators should focus on outcomes when planning activities. Katrina's book provides structured activities for both novice and experienced facilitators. Learn more about Katrina - https://www.katrinakennedy.com/ Connect with the podcast - podcast@high5adventure.org Support the podcast - www.verticalplaypen.org
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Dec 9, 2025 • 37min

Connections, 52 Fathoms and CBS' Survivor | Leo VanWarmerdam

In this conversation, Phil and Leo explore the concept of connection, particularly in new environments, and how facilitators can foster deeper connections among participants. They discuss the importance of vulnerability, curiosity, and the role of tools like the 52 Fathoms deck in facilitating meaningful interactions. The conversation also touches on lessons learned from Leo's experience on Survivor, emphasizing the significance of observation and reflection in the facilitation process. Connection is a vital part of human interaction. Facilitators can guide deeper connections through thoughtful questions. Vulnerability can lead to more meaningful conversations. Using tools like 52 Fathoms can enhance group dynamics. Observation is key to understanding group interactions. Curiosity drives deeper engagement in conversations. Facilitators should adapt activities to fit their style. Conflict resolution can be learned from real-life experiences. Creating a safe space encourages openness among participants. Reflection on experiences enhances facilitation skills. Learn more about Fulcrum Adventures - https://fulcrumadventures.com/ Connect with the podcast; Email - podcast@high5adventure.org Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/verticalplaypen/ Support the podcast - verticalplaypen.org
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Nov 18, 2025 • 18min

The Keys to Resilience | Dr. Kate Lund

In this conversation, Phil Brown and Dr. Kate Lund explore the concept of resilience, particularly in the context of parenting and education. They discuss the importance of fostering resilience in children, the role of parents in modeling behavior, and the impact of anxiety across generations. The conversation also touches on the challenges of navigating independence in a digital age, the significance of a growth mindset, and practical strategies like the 'daily wins' exercise to enhance resilience. Dr. Lund shares personal experiences and insights from her work, emphasizing that perfect parenting is a myth and that resilience can be cultivated through intentional practices. Resilience involves a set of skills and strategies for navigating challenges. Parents play a crucial role in fostering resilience in their children. Anxiety is more openly discussed today than in previous generations. Independence for children should be balanced with safety and guidance. Social media can impact children's self-regulation and mental health. Resilience is linked to a growth mindset and the belief in possibilities. Daily reflection on positive experiences can shift negative self-talk. Modeling resilience is important for children to learn effective coping strategies. The concept of perfect parenting is unrealistic and can create pressure. Building resilience takes time and requires a holistic approach. Learn more about Dr. Lund - https://www.katelundspeaks.com/ Contact the podcast - podcast@high5adventure.org Support the podcast - www.verticalplaypen.org Music and sound effects - www.epidemicsound.com
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Nov 4, 2025 • 25min

Finding our Facilitator Personality | Rach Davis

In this conversation, Phil Brown and Rach Davis explore the complexities of facilitation, particularly focusing on the dynamics of introversion, energy management, and the importance of personal style in facilitating workshops. They discuss the need for downtime after high-energy sessions, and the adaptability required in facilitation practices. Rach shares insights on balancing personal and professional energy, the evolution of her facilitation style, and the significance of creating engaging environments for participants. The conversation emphasizes the importance of self-awareness, flexibility, and continuous learning in the facilitation process. Selective introversion affects energy levels during facilitation. Facilitators often wear a 'mask' in professional settings. Downtime is essential for recharging after high-energy sessions. Balancing personal and professional energy is crucial. Facilitation does not always need to be high energy. Understanding participant dynamics enhances facilitation effectiveness. Personal facilitation style evolves over time. Flexibility in facilitation techniques is important. Continuous learning is key to effective facilitation. Learn more about Rach - https://www.rachdavis.com/ Connect with Phil - podcast@high5adventure.org Support the podcast - www.verticalplaypen.org Music and sound effects - www.epidemicsound.com
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Oct 28, 2025 • 20min

High Ropes for All | Graeme Hill

In this conversation, Phil and Graeme Hill discuss the importance of inclusivity in outdoor activities, particularly for individuals with disabilities and neurodivergent conditions. They explore the barriers that prevent participation, the need for a focus on abilities rather than disabilities, and the role of instructors and administrators in creating accessible environments. Graeme shares insights from his extensive experience in the field, emphasizing the importance of adapting programming and equipment to meet the needs of all participants. The discussion also touches on changing attitudes towards disability, financial considerations, and the future of inclusive outdoor activities. Inclusivity in outdoor activities is essential for everyone. Focus on abilities rather than disabilities to empower participants. Barriers to participation often come from misconceptions and risk aversion. Instructors need training to support neurodivergent individuals effectively. Changing attitudes towards disability is crucial for progress. Financial arguments against inclusivity can be weak if not researched. The journey to participation is as important as the activity itself. Technical adaptations can enhance accessibility without expensive equipment. Promoting positive imagery of diverse participants is vital. The future of outdoor activities should be fully inclusive for all abilities. Connect with Graeme - grazzahill@hotmail.com Connect with the podcast; email - podcast@high5adventure.org instagram - https://www.instagram.com/verticalplaypen/ Support the podcast - www.verticalplaypen.org Music and sound effects - www.epidemicsound.com
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Oct 21, 2025 • 19min

Strategies for Psychological Safety | Dee Scarano

This conversation with Dee Scarano delves into the concept of psychological safety, emphasizing the importance of honesty and vulnerability in communication. Dee shares how fear of judgment can hinder open expression and explore practical strategies for creating an environment where individuals feel safe to share their thoughts. They highlight the significance of anonymity, comfort zones, and standardized formats in fostering inclusivity and collaboration. Honesty in communication fosters psychological safety. Psychological safety allows individuals to voice their thoughts without fear. Fear of judgment is a significant barrier to open communication. Anonymity is crucial for creating a safe space for sharing ideas. Building comfort zones is essential before encouraging risk-taking. Standardized formats help ensure equal contributions from all participants. Facilitators must create structures that promote psychological safety. Understanding human behavior is key to effective facilitation. Sharing knowledge within the facilitation community is vital. Vulnerability can lead to stronger connections and collaboration. Learn more about Dee - https://www.deescarano.com/ Dee on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/deescarano/ Support the podcast - www.verticalplaypen.org Music and sound effects - www.epidemicsound.com
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Oct 14, 2025 • 32min

Super Curious to Ask | Chad Littlefield & Sherry Bagley

In this engaging podcast episode, Phil Brown, Sherry Bagley, and Chad Littlefield explore the themes of curiosity, experiential education, and the importance of relationships in facilitation. They discuss how questions can unlock deeper conversations, the significance of observation in understanding group dynamics, and the value of critique for continuous improvement. The conversation also touches on the role of charisma and authenticity in facilitation, the necessity of structure, and the inspiration drawn from community and relationships. The episode concludes with reflections on personal growth and the power of asking questions. Questions are the key that unlocks the door to deeper understanding. Building relationships is foundational in experiential education. Observation is crucial for facilitators to meet group needs. Critique is essential for continuous improvement in practice. Staying curious prevents stagnation in long-term facilitation. Charisma can be developed as a skill over time. Structure in facilitation can enhance engagement and effectiveness. Finding inspiration often comes from connecting with new people. The power of relationships is central to effective education. Asking questions can lead to unexpected and enriching conversations. Come hang out with the Phil, Chad and Sherry at the AEE conference - https://www.aee.org/events/2025-aee-international-conference Learn more about AEE - https://www.aee.org/ Connect with the podcast - email - podcast@high5adventure.org instagram - https://www.instagram.com/verticalplaypen/ Support the podcast - www.verticalplaypen.org Music and sound effects - www.epidemicsound.com

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