TWO AM I

Jack Riewoldt & Shane McCurry
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Mar 21, 2025 • 42min

Des Flanagan: The gruelling, hardest, best, most privileged experience of my life

  ‘Generous, patient and tenacious’ are the three words Des Flanagan says sum him up and always have. Des is a boy from Beechworth in regional Victoria, who found himself performing in the Moulin Rouge kicking a leg, singing some of the greatest love songs ever written and having the time of his life. In his first lead role in a mainstage show, Des spent two years and 10 months playing the lead male protagonist Christian 657 times. His love for the stage began with little concerts with his siblings curated for their parents, until Des realised that family fun was to become his destiny. What followed was years of study at the prestigious Victorian College of the Arts, beginning his career in musical theatre. While Des has starred in Neighbours and a few short films, he’s definitely ruled IN doing some great Australian film work in the future.   TWO AM I Listen Curiously   CREDITS   Hosts: Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry   Thanks to our guest Des Flanagan:   To learn more about Des: Des on Instagram Des on IMDB Aran Micheal Management   Links from this episode: Moulin Rouge How Des Flanagan learnt he had the role of 2021   Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I YouTube TWO AM I Instagram  TWO AM I Tik Tok TWO AM I LinkedIn TWO AM I LinktreeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Mar 14, 2025 • 45min

Peggy O’Neal: Breaking glass ceilings and being deliberate in striving for gender equality in leadership

When Peggy O’Neal AO emigrated from the United States to Australia in 1991, she had no idea she was about to fall in love with a community and a game that would shape her new life. Perhaps it was fate that she moved to Richmond in Melbourne’s east, donned the local team’s footy jumper, and learnt about footy tipping – all moments that would eventually lead her to become the first woman in AFL history to serve as a club president at the Richmond Tigers. Peggy, who is a superannuation and financial lawyer, broke that glass ceiling but admits there is much more to do and says being deliberate in striving for gender equality in leadership is always front of mind. While sport is one of her passions, education is another – values instilled in her by her parents when she was a child – and she now gives back as Chancellor of RMIT University, and you heard it here first, Peggy is writing a children’s book!   TWO AM I Listen Curiously   CREDITS   Hosts: Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry   Thanks to our guest Peggy O’Neal:   To learn more about Peggy: Peggy on LinkedIn Peggy O’Neal AO RMIT Chancellor Peggy O’Neal ICMI Lander & Rogers   Links from this episode: Richmond Tigers – Peggy O’Neal Hall of Fame induction Richmond Tigers – Peggy O’Neal final column as President Stay Safe and Stay in Touch   Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I YouTube TWO AM I Instagram  TWO AM I Tik Tok TWO AM I LinkedIn TWO AM I LinktreeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Mar 7, 2025 • 44min

Richard Baker: The art of observation, striving for the truth and diving headfirst into investigative storytelling

Richard Baker is one of Australia’s most creative, engaging and groundbreaking investigative journalists with five Walkley Awards and 15 Melbourne Press Club Quill Awards to his name. And when it comes to creating compelling and unique audio, Richard is world class with the likes of Phoebe’s Fall, Wrong Skin and The Last Voyage of The Pong Su in his podcast back catalogue. Investigative journalism requires patience and perseverance, which Richard has in spades, but his key to developing solid story ideas comes from the art of observation. He never leaves home without his notebook but does leave judgement at the door in pursuit of his craft and seeking out the truth. Following a successful career at The Age newspaper Richard took the leap and launched a premium storytelling company with the ambition to be the southern hemisphere’s best independent creator of podcasts, documentaries and limited series.   TWO AM I Listen Curiously   CREDITS   Hosts: Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry   Thanks to our guest Richard Baker:   To learn more about Richard: Richard on LinkedIn Southern Ocean Media   Links from this episode: Wrong Skin Phoebe’s Fall Last Voyage of the Ponsu Bagdad Nights And then they run (BAND) Non-Hodgkin Lymphona   Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I YouTube TWO AM I Instagram  TWO AM I Tik Tok TWO AM I LinkedIn TWO AM I LinktreeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Feb 28, 2025 • 45min

Greg ‘Clanger’ Kleynjans: Fighting the good fight with publican, musician and martial arts referee

He’s a charismatic publican, musician and martial arts referee. And there isn’t anything Greg ‘Clanger’ Kleynjans puts his mind to that he doesn’t do with 100% passion and a good sense of humour. He’s the kind of guy who knows everyone and has done A LOT, but you wouldn’t know it because words like humble and genuine sum up this one in a million human. Clanger is a true storyteller, with a back catalogue of material to work with. He’s not just a former fighter himself but has officiated hundreds of Mixed Martial Arts fights across Australia, the US, China, Japan and beyond. He also played a key role creating one of the AFL’s greatest dynasties of the modern era (the Richmond Tigers). Oh and if you haven’t heard of the band the Shandy Butchers, then listen in, because that yarn is frankly a clanger!   TWO AM I Listen Curiously   CREDITS   Hosts: Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry   Thanks to our guest Greg ‘Clanger’ Kleynjans:   To learn more about Clanger: Clanger on LinkedIn Clanger on IMDB   Links from this episode: Clanger at the Richmond Tigers Mixed Martial Arts Grace Emily Hotel   Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I YouTube TWO AM I Instagram  TWO AM I Tik Tok TWO AM I LinkedIn TWO AM I LinktreeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Feb 21, 2025 • 45min

Madelyn Carafa: Trading balance for glass and plastic ball moments and nurturing your love language

The hustle is real. But for Madelyn Carafa, there had to be another way to balance the career she always wanted with motherhood all while looking after her physical, mental and spiritual self. After leaving the corporate world it was her ‘side hustle’ The Healthy Hustlers podcast that ignited her passion to help others fuel their health and wellbeing goals through healthy conversations, while also reinforcing her own desire for greater connection and purpose. The podcast has not only become a hit show but has helped Madelyn redefine many aspects of her life, from the meaning of success, on how to treat balance, understanding everyone’s unique journey, and the importance of embracing love language. Feel renewed and reinvigorated!   TWO AM I Listen Curiously   CREDITS   Hosts: Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry   Thanks to our guest Madelyn Carafa:   To learn more about Madelyn: Madelyn on Instagram Madelyn on LinkedIn Madelyn Carafa podcasting/coaching   Links from this episode: The Healthy Hustlers podcast     Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I YouTube TWO AM I Instagram  TWO AM I Tik Tok TWO AM I LinkedIn TWO AM I LinktreeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Feb 14, 2025 • 44min

Osher Günsberg: Part 2 - A journey of sobriety and acceptance: leaving ‘that guy’ behind

Changing his name from Andrew to Osher (meaning happiness in Hebrew) may have been an ‘aggressive rebrand’ but for Osher Günsberg it helped put a space between the “him who was drinking and using and the him that got to live the rest of his life not being that guy anymore.” Years on, Osher is raw and real when he speaks about mental illness, addiction, sobriety and death. In recounting his journey from hosting the hit TV shows Australian Idol and The Bachelor, to his breakthrough radio days, and now as a best-selling author, successful podcaster and passionate Dad, photographer and cyclist, Osher doesn’t leave anything unsaid and works to inspire others as we all navigate the ups and downs of life. If you loved Part 1 of Osher’s raw and real story, don’t miss Part 2. In this episode, Osher dives even deeper into his journey through mental illness, addiction, sobriety, and confronting death. He leaves nothing unsaid, sharing his experiences to inspire others as we all navigate the ups and downs of life. TWO AM I Listen Curiously   *Language warning | Difficult themes* REMINDER: If this episode has raised any issues for you, in Australia you can contact Lifeline by phone on 13 11 14 (24/7); Lifeline via text on 0477 13 11 14 (24/7); Suicide Callback Service 1300 659 467.   CREDITS   Hosts: Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry   Thanks to our guest Osher Günsberg:   To learn more about Osher: Osher on Instagram Osher on Facebook Osher on Wikipedia   Links from this episode: Back, After the Break Better than yesterday podcast   Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I YouTube TWO AM I Instagram  TWO AM I Tik Tok TWO AM I LinkedIn TWO AM I LinktreeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Feb 7, 2025 • 38min

Osher Günsberg: Part 1 - Living life not being ‘that guy’ anymore and accepting death Part 1

Episode 1: Osher Günsberg Part 1 Changing his name from Andrew to Osher (meaning happiness in Hebrew) may have been an ‘aggressive rebrand’ but for Osher Günsberg it helped put a space between the “him who was drinking and using and the him that got to live the rest of his life not being that guy anymore.” Years on, Osher is raw and real when he speaks about mental illness, addiction, sobriety and death. In recounting his journey from hosting the hit TV shows Australian Idol and The Bachelor, to his breakthrough radio days, and now as a best-selling author, successful podcaster and passionate Dad, photographer and cyclist, Osher doesn’t leave anything unsaid and works to inspire others as we all navigate the ups and downs of life.   TWO AM I Listen Curiously   *Language warning | Difficult themes* REMINDER: If this episode has raised any issues for you, in Australia you can contact Lifeline by phone on 13 11 14 (24/7); Lifeline via text on 0477 13 11 14 (24/7); Suicide Callback Service 1300 659 467.   CREDITS   Hosts: Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry   Thanks to our guest Osher Günsberg:   To learn more about Osher: Osher on Instagram Osher on Facebook Osher on Wikipedia   Links from this episode: Back, After the Break Better than yesterday podcast   Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I YouTube TWO AM I Instagram  TWO AM I Tik Tok TWO AM I LinkedIn TWO AM I LinktreeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Nov 26, 2024 • 24min

Jack & Shane: Embracing your inner child, believing in yourself and others, and breathing through the tough stuff

Episode 9: Jack Riewoldt & Shane McCurry They first met at a café in Richmond in Melbourne, and Jack and Shane admit, it was ‘connection at first sight’. The pair realised straight away that they shared a passion for leadership, growth and a fascination for people and their stories. What began as a professional relationship at the Richmond Football Club, turned into a friendship and partnership co-hosting TWO AM I. And in this final episode of Season 4, Jack and Shane reflect on their guests over the past eight episodes, and what they learned from each; from how to embrace your inner child, to believing in yourself and others, and how to breathe through the tough stuff.   TWO AM I Listen Curiously CREDITS   Hosts: Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry   To learn more about Jack and Shane: Jack on Instagram Shane on Instagram Jack on LinkedIn  Shane on LinkedIn Jack and Authentic Leaders Group Shane McCurry   Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I YouTube TWO AM I Instagram  TWO AM I Tik Tok TWO AM I LinkedIn TWO AM I Linktree  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Nov 19, 2024 • 41min

Tansel Ali: How storytelling, emotions and imagination help build a strong healthy memory

Episode 8: Tansel Ali Tansel Ali used to have a terrible memory. He’d forget people’s names, conversations he’d just had, numbers, and even had difficulties remembering what he just read. It was when he started learning ‘memory techniques’ that he realised his memory wasn’t bad, it was just untrained. Tansel was in his early 20s when he discovered memory training, at the same time he learned he needed serious stomach surgery, having been diagnosed with Crohn’s Disease. So while he recovered in hospital he put his mind to work. Since then, Tansel has been crowned four-time Australian Memory Sports Champion, memorised two Yellow Pages phone books, authored two books, created educational initiatives for schools and helped people with dyslexia, ADHD, as well as high performance athletes, keynote speakers and corporate leaders.   **We would like to say an extra special thank you to Tansel for recording this episode with us just a few days after his Dad had passed away, we so appreciated his willingness to sit down and chat and be so open. Our condolences to Tansel and his family**   TWO AM I Listen Curiously   CREDITS   Hosts: Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry   Thanks to our guest Tansel Ali:   To learn more about Tansel: Tansel on Instagram Tansel on LinkedIn Tansel on X Tansel on YouTube Tansel Ali website   Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I YouTube TWO AM I Instagram  TWO AM I Tik Tok TWO AM I LinkedIn TWO AM I LinktreeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Nov 12, 2024 • 41min

Penelope Jordan: The curious club for grown-ups sparking connection and taking the fear out being a first timer

Episode 7: Penelope Jordan A bike rave, Korean BBQ, bouldering and pole dancing are just a handful of new things the First Timers Club has tried, since kicking off in January 2024. And Penelope Jordan couldn’t be more thrilled that her idea for a club for curious grown-ups looking to connect with others, has taken off. The genesis for FTC came after she returned from a stint overseas and following Melbourne’s COVID lockdowns, when she and her friend Rosie held their first activity when it was just the two of them. But the popularity has grown, where complete strangers come together to do a thing, realising the ‘first time’ isn’t necessarily about the activity, but rather getting past the fear and anxiety of showing up in the first place.    TWO AM I Listen Curiously   CREDITS   Hosts: Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry   Thanks to our guest Penelope Jordan:   To learn more about Penelope: First Timers Club on Instagram The First Timers Club website The First Timers Club ABC News The First Timers Club Frankie   Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I YouTube TWO AM I Instagram  TWO AM I Tik Tok TWO AM I LinkedIn TWO AM I LinktreeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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