The Divorce Survival Guide Podcast

Annette Oltmans returns to the show this week for an important conversation about going to couples therapy with an abuser. We discuss what therapy with an abuser can look like, when it works, when it doesn't work, and share strategies to protect yourself throughout. Annette is one of the very few people whose abusive husband did change after going to therapy - separately and together. She also shares what her experience was like and offers insight into what is required to heal. Annette's personal experiences of prolonged emotional abuse in marriage and her extensive journey of recovery including comprehensive field research into the topics of Original Abuse and Double Abuse® ignited her passion for founding The M3ND Project in 2016. Show Highlights Signs to look out for during therapy that it's not working and/or that it's dangerous to continue (9:24) Abuse victims need to experience therapeutic alignment that is on their side - that kind of support is not going to happen in couples therapy (13:20) The motivations and tactics of an abuser who agrees to go to couples therapy (31:03) If you are in a cycle of abuse, go to therapy, and nothing is changing - what do you do? (36:39) How to know therapy is working if you and your spouse decide to explore therapy separately (46:01) The victim should have a voice in the therapeutic process (47:55) It's a long journey for an abuser to do the work to change - they won't be changed within two months (51:55) A boundary without a consequence is just a complaint - the hard part is holding the boundary (54:57) Learn more about Annette Oltmans: Annette Oltmans is a philanthropist and passionate human rights advocate. Annette's personal experiences of prolonged emotional abuse in marriage and her extensive journey of recovery including comprehensive field research into the topics of Original Abuse and Double Abuse® ignited her passion to founding The M3ND Project in 2016. While seeking the help of professionals and responders, she experienced Double Abuse® in the form of spiritual and institutional abuse. These harmful encounters compelled Annette in her relentless pursuit for solutions that involved interviews with hundreds of victims and survivors. She uncovered common threads that cause victims prolonged states of confusion as well as what ultimately led them towards healing. Her journey also involved interviews with hundreds of faith-based leaders and therapists which led her to discover that most are untrained and ill-equipped to identify and help victims of emotional, verbal, and psychological abuse. In working to prevent and remediate such harm, Annette developed protocoled models that are now being taught and implemented with therapists, churches and professional organizations across the United States. She consulted with esteemed experts in abuse, trauma, and healing to ensure the materials align with the highest professional standards. Annette also serves on the Board of Pepperdine University's Boone Center for the Family and is a Board of Trustee member of Northrise University in Zambia. Her writing on these topics of abuse, domestic violence, and bullying has been published in the American Association of Christian Counselors (AACC), Teen Vogue, and numerous other publications. Annette is also a contributing author in the newly released book, "Created to Thrive: Cultivating Abuse-Free Safe Communities". Resources & Links: Links and information may also be found at: https://kateanthony.com/podcast/couples-therapy-and-abuse-with-annette-oltmans/ Get on the list to be notified about Group Coaching!The M3nd Project WebsiteTools and Resources from The M3ND ProjectThe M3ND Project on FacebookThe M3ND Project on Instagram The M3nd Project on YouTubeThe M3nd Project on Twitter Abuser. Narcissist. Sociopath. with Annette Oltmans Covert Emotional Abuse with Annette Oltmans The Marriage Recovery Center TODAY'S EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY: THE REVISED SHOULD I STAY OR SHOULD I GO? PROGRAM An online coaching program designed to help you make the right decision about your marriage...once and for all. In this groundbreaking online coaching program, you'll unlock the support, education and deep transformational work you need to finally answer to your most burning question: should I stay or should I go? JOIN THE SHOULD I STAY OR SHOULD I GO FACEBOOK GROUP

I'm often asked, "What does a healthy relationship even look like?" Vanessa Bennett, LMFT, author, holistic psychotherapist, and codependency expert, joins me for a conversation that addresses that question. Plus, we discuss her new book, which she co-authored with her partner, John Kim (AKA: The Angry Therapist), "It's Not Me, It's You: Break the Blame Cycle. Relationship Better." The book covers the top ten issues couples struggle with and how they can work through them. We also discuss codependence versus interdependence, love languages, and more. Vanessa's therapeutic approach integrates years of study and practice in Depth, Buddhist, and Yoga Psychology. She co-hosts the Cheaper Than Therapy Podcast, leads soul-based retreats and workshops, and creates and facilitates curriculum for non-profit and corporate events and conferences. Show Highlights Halt the blame: codependency is universal and systemic (10:05) Interdependence: what it is and its role in relationships (12:21) Taking away the shame around our codependent ways of relating (15:34) Love languages are like Cliff's Notes for our needs (23:01) Moving towards interdependence and healing unhealthy codependency (28:02) When you break the blame cycle and own your shit, shifts in your relationships will happen (33:48) Learn more about Vanessa: After over a decade of grinding in the New York City corporate world, Vanessa Bennett realized her work, her relationships, and honestly, her life felt…off. She didn't see it at first, but her path was finding her — and the journey she started to help herself ended up being her path to helping others. Cue the montage of her moving across the country, having a few breakdowns, heartbreaks, setbacks, taking hundreds of hours of training and workshops in yoga, yoga therapy, nutrition, somatic therapy, and reading lots and lots of books. Oh yeah, all while becoming a licensed therapist. It turns out that this passion paired well with her unique background in telling stories through marketing and corporate strategy, a longtime practice of meditation and yoga, and the fact that she's a New Yorker who cuts to the point. Today, Vanessa lives in Los Angeles and puts all of this to work as an Author, Licensed Holistic Psychotherapist, clinical entrepreneur, and mental health content creator. She co-hosts the Cheaper Than Therapy Podcast, leads soul-based retreats and workshops, and creates and facilitates curricula for non-profit and corporate events and conferences. Resources & Links: Information and links may also be found at: https://kateanthony.com/podcast/codependence-versus-interdependence-with-vanessa-bennett-lmft Grit and Grace Group Coaching is Open - Join us! Vanessa's website Vanessa on Instagram Vanessa on TikTok TODAY'S EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY: THE DIVORCE SURVIVAL PROGRAM As one of the pioneers of the divorce coaching industry, I've been helping women (most of whom are moms) navigate the divorce process for the last decade. AND NOW, FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, ALL OF MY DIVORCE WISDOM IS AVAILABLE IN ONE ONLINE PROGRAM. This program is 100% for you if… You're a mom looking for a clear roadmap to a divorce that won't destroy your kids You're looking for answers and a roadmap You understand that divorce is a long game You're willing to put away your boxing gloves You want this to be a respectful and collaborative process in service of your kids You understand that divorce is, first and foremost, an emotional process and you're ready to 'go there' Are you ready to learn from one of the world's top divorce experts and set yourself on the path towards the best possible outcome? YEAH, Y'ARE!!! JOIN THE SHOULD I STAY OR SHOULD I GO FACEBOOK GROUP

Before we dive into this week's show, I wanted to share that my group coaching experience, Grit & Grace, is open! If you are ready to create profound shifts to own your worth, your strength, and your power - Grit & Grace is for you. To learn more about the program or to sign up for a consultation visit KateAnthony.com/Coaching. Certified Family Law Specialist Monica Mazzei joins me to talk about why everyone should have a pre-marital agreement - yes, a prenup! Monica is passionate about what she does and has made it her mission to educate others about everything family law—including this topic. During our conversation, we discuss the benefits of having a pre-marital agreement, why prenups are not just for high-net-worth individuals, and what happens if a spouse tries to fight the prenup during a divorce. If you don't have assets or think you don't need a prenup, but think you might get married again in the future, this episode is a must-listen. Show Highlights The family law system is outdated especially in the area of pre-marital agreements (6:53) Conversations about pre-marital agreements offer transparency and may lead to greater intimacy (10:00) Monica explains what information and details go into a prenup - it should be a clear roadmap of what is going to happen if you get divorced (11:51) How to start the conversation with a partner about creating a pre-marital agreement (22:08) Co-habitation and Nesting agreements: what are they and what should go into them (26:04) Why a pre-martial agreement is the most impactful one you can have, where you choose your own rules and destiny as a couple if things don't work out (34:35) Learn more about Monica:Monica Mazzei is a Certified Family Law Specialist representing clients in the Bay Area, with a concentration in San Francisco and Silicon Valley, as well as Los Angeles. She represents high-net-worth clients throughout the divorce process and in mediation. Monica has been named a California Super Lawyer from 2015-2019 and has been recognized in the international Chambers High Net Worth 2017-2019 guide for Family/Matrimonial Law. Monica specializes in dissolution actions involving complicated valuation and financial matters, and complex community property and support issues, including international issues, and dissolutions involving hedge funds, private equity, venture capital, and privately held businesses. Monica takes a modern approach to the practice of family law – addressing various needs of her clients related and unrelated to their family law case. Monica has relationships with top professionals in the Bay Area such as forensic accountants, mental health professionals, real estate agents, financial advisors, and business valuation experts. She also works closely with estate planning attorneys to come up with creative solutions for her clients and ensure their agreements reflect their current objectives. Monica is a frequent lecturer and speaker on family law matters and has been interviewed by Forbes, The Wall Street Journal, and Bloomberg. Resources & Links: Information and links may also be found at: https://kateanthony.com/podcast/why-everyone-should-have-a-pre-marital-agreement-with-monica-mazzei/ Grit and Grace Group Coaching is Open - Join us! Monica's website Monica on LinkedIn TODAY'S EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY: SOBERLINK Proof. Protection. Peace of Mind. The Soberlink remote alcohol monitoring system consists of a portable breathalyzer with wireless technology for real-time results. With proven use as the leading choice in child custody cases since 2011, we are the only system that combines: Court admissibility in all 50 states Facial recognition Tamper detection Easy-to-read Advanced Reporting™ Trust the Experts in Remote Alcohol Monitoring Technology™ to support the best interests of the child in your Family Law cases. JOIN THE SHOULD I STAY OR SHOULD I GO FACEBOOK GROUP

This week we are talking about the legal aspect of high conflict divorce. When it comes to divorce, what most talk about from a legal sense isn't applicable to those navigating a divorce with an abuser or high-conflict person. That's why I asked my good friend, Susan Guthrie, Esq., to come back to the show and share what she knows about legal issues surrounding high-conflict situations. Divorce is hard, divorce with a high conflict person is a completely different ball game. Listen to this episode to hear how to maneuver the legal system when divorcing an abusive or high-conflict spouse. Show Highlights The tools do not exist in the legal system to change the behavior of a high-conflict person, but there are resources available that can help you protect yourself (6:09) High conflict people are unmanageable (11:37) Susan answers, "Can you mediate with someone who is actively lying and/or hiding assets?" (14:28) Why Susan says a consulting attorney is a necessity for the mediation process (19:01) When you are mediating or litigating with a high-conflict person, you move in small, purposeful steps (23:35) How to cope when an ex-spouse backs out of mediation at the last minute. Plus, what you can do from a legal perspective (33:48) Learn more about Susan: Susan Guthrie, nationally recognized as one of the Top Family Law Attorneys and Mediators in the country, has been helping individuals and families navigate separation and divorce for more than 30 years. Susan provides online divorce and legal coaching services to select clients around the world. As a leading dispute resolution professional, Susan is honored to serve on the Executive Council of the American Bar Association's (ABA) Section of Dispute Resolution as the Budget Officer and to be a Co-Chair of the Advanced Mediation Institute. In 2021 Susan launched her fresh and inspiring podcast, The Divorce & Beyond Podcast with Susan Guthrie, Esq. which debuted on iTunes "Top Podcasts" List for self-help podcasts and which is one of the Top 1.5 % of All Podcasts worldwide! Divorce & Beyond is focused on pulling back the curtain on the mysteries of the divorce process and bringing tips and resources to help people to thrive and shine in their new future beyond divorce. Susan has been featured in and on media outlets such as CNBC, Market Watch, News Nation, Forbes, the ABA's Just Resolutions Magazine, Thrive Global, Medium, and many more. She is licensed to practice law in the States of California and Connecticut as well as before the Supreme Court of the United States. Resources & Links: Information and links may also be found at: https://kateanthony.com/podcast/high-conflict-legal-qa-with-susan-guthrie-esq Grit and Grace Group Coaching starts on September 15th - Join us! Mosten Guthrie Academy BIFF: Quick Responses to High-Conflict PeopleDSG Abuse Mini-Series: How to Communicate with a High-Conflict Co-Parent with Bill Eddy Get Ready to BIFF Your High Conflict Ex with Bill Eddy on Divorce & Beyond The Incredible Tale of One Mom's Successful 10-Year Battle to Be Free of a Narcissist with Tina Swithin on Divorce & Beyond TODAY'S EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY: THE REVISED SHOULD I STAY OR SHOULD I GO? PROGRAM An online coaching program designed to help you make the right decision about your marriage...once and for all. In this groundbreaking online coaching program, you'll unlock the support, education and deep transformational work you need to finally answer to your most burning question: should I stay or should I go? JOIN THE SHOULD I STAY OR SHOULD I GO FACEBOOK GROUP

When women join book clubs, often, it's not about books. It's about being with one another, building each other up, and gaining a sense of comfort with each other. Women need community, it's part of who we are. That's why, this week, I continue the conversation about community and Grit & Grace, a coaching experience for women contemplating, going through, or recovering from divorce. In this episode, I share openly and passionately why I created the Grit & Grace program, talk about some of the work we'll do together including techniques for healing and grief recovery, the nuts and bolts of divorce, and share how you can join us! Yes, you can do this work individually and make big changes. Or we can come together to make a seismic shift in our own lives and change the world while we're doing it. Plus, we heal exponentially when we do it together. Resources & Links: Information and links may also be found at: https://kateanthony.com/podcast/solo-episode-grit--grace/ Join my new coaching program Grit & Grace! Why Women Need a Tribe By Tanja Taljaard and Azriel Re'ShelThe Science of Stuck with Tina SwithinDon't Use These Terms! Words and Phrases to Avoid When Getting Divorced with Christina McGhee JOIN THE SHOULD I STAY OR SHOULD I GO FACEBOOK GROUP

Britt Frank is the author of The Science of Stuck: Breaking Through Inertia to Find Your Path Forward. Many of my listeners are stuck on the idea of whether they should stay or go, or stuck in trauma and fear. That's why I invited Britt to the show to talk about the small steps we can take to become unstuck and move forward with dignity. Britt is a trauma specialist and psychotherapist. Her work focuses on empowering people to understand the mechanisms of our brains and bodies so we can break through procrastination and find our way home to ourselves. This conversation is amazing, I hope you enjoy it! Show Highlights The fastest way to get out of being stuck is to take small steps (5:08) How to define the 'first step' to help you figure out your plan for getting unstuck (7:53) Dissociation is a self-protection mechanism - there'sa reason you're not doing the thing you want to do: you're experiencing the freeze response to trauma (13:11) Britt explains why we can't think ourselves forward (16:04) We explore the steps to help you get unstuck including: Validating what's happening and determining the resources available to help right now (22:40) Why Britt says to stay away from positive and negative thinking and instead focus on accurate thinking (24:52) Your inner critic wants to help, but they are just really bad at it! (27:59) Leaving a relationship requires detox and withdrawal (34:23) Self-sabotage is a way to self-protect - don't blame yourself for self-sabotaging. Recognize it's happening and then follow the steps to move through being stuck (39:41) Self-mothering is one the most powerful ways of breaking trauma bonds (44:24) Learn more about Britt Frank: Britt Frank, MSW, LSCSW, SEP is a clinician, educator, and trauma specialist. She speaks and writes widely about the mental health myths that keep us stuck and stressed. Britt received her BA from Duke University and her MSW from the University of Kansas, where she later became an award-winning adjunct professor. She is a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner and Level 3 trained in the Internal Family Systems therapeutic model. Britt was a primary therapist at a drug and alcohol treatment center, an inpatient therapist at a children's psychiatric hospital, and now owns a private practice. You can find Britt on Instagram @brittfrank or on her website www.scienceofstuck.com. Her debut book The Science of Stuck was released 3-22-22 by Penguin Random House. Resources & Links: Links and information may also be found at: https://kateanthony.com/podcast/the-science-of-stuck-with-britt-frank/ Get on the list to be notified about Grit & Grace!Britt's websiteBritt on Instagram Britt's book Mother Hunger, Kelly McDaniel TODAY'S EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY: THE DIVORCE SURVIVAL PROGRAM As one of the pioneers of the divorce coaching industry, I've been helping women (most of whom are moms) navigate the divorce process for the last decade. AND NOW, FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, ALL OF MY DIVORCE WISDOM IS AVAILABLE IN ONE ONLINE PROGRAM. This program is 100% for you if… You're a mom looking for a clear roadmap to a divorce that won't destroy your kids You're looking for answers and a roadmap You understand that divorce is a long game You're willing to put away your boxing gloves You want this to be a respectful and collaborative process in service of your kids You understand that divorce is, first and foremost, an emotional process and you're ready to 'go there' Are you ready to learn from one of the world's top divorce experts and set yourself on the path towards the best possible outcome? YEAH, Y'ARE!!! JOIN THE SHOULD I STAY OR SHOULD I GO FACEBOOK GROUP

This week we are talking about life after divorce - specifically what it can look like and how it can feel. Sara Davison is my special guest. During our conversation, she shares her story of divorce and how she helps women move on from heartbreak to a life of happiness post-divorce. Sara is best known as 'The Divorce Coach' and is an award-winning authority on break-ups, divorce, and life empowerment. Following the launch of Sara's Breakup and Divorce Coach Practitioner Accreditation Programme in 2018, Sara has now founded The International Divorce Coach Centre Of Excellence which has a coaching community of 250 Divorce Coaches spanning 16 countries and five continents. She is a twice best-selling author, media commentator, and host of the #1 Heartbreak to Happiness Podcast. Tune in to hear our empowering and uplifting conversation! Show Highlights How do you get back up on your feet and move forward when you are still wrapped up in the whole process of divorce? (7:50) Turning the adversity of your divorce into your strength and superpower (8:19) Sara shares her story of divorce and the processing the shock and trauma of finding her spouse was having an affair and wanted a divorce (14:41) The opposing viewpoints of divorce: the abuser wants to annihilate you whereas you just want to break free and move on (24:00) How to move forward and take your power back - even in the midst of experiencing post-separation abuse (26:31) It takes one person or one generation to break toxicity or patterns of abuse - it is up to us to break it for our kids (38:35) Learn more about Sara Davison: Sara Davison, best known as 'The Divorce Coach', is an award-winning authority on break-ups, divorce, and life-empowerment. She's the best-kept secret of society's elite with a client list that spans actors, politicians, and sportsmen. A bestselling author, Sara's empathetic and holistic coaching style empowers individuals to take back control and positively transform their lives. An NLP Master Practitioner, Sara combines 26 years' coaching experience with her own personal experience of marriage breakdown to help clients cope with challenges including heartbreak, betrayal, conflict, confidence building, co-parenting, and being effective in the workplace during divorce and dating again. Coaching is tailored to suit a client's lifestyle needs, with options ranging from private coaching at Sara's clinic, home visits and online video courses to the immersive group environment on her highly acclaimed Breakup Recovery Retreats. Following the success of Sara's Breakup & Divorce Coach Practitioner Accreditation Programme, Sara founded the International Divorce Coach Centre of Excellence in 2021 and has now created a global coaching community of over 200 Divorce Coaches spanning 14 countries and six continents. The programme is designed to help those interested in becoming a coach as well as existing coaches who want to take their business to the next level. Sara launched Heartbreak To Happiness, an empowering podcast designed to help men and women struggling with the pain of relationship breakdown. The podcast hit New and Noteworthy six times in the first six weeks post launch and hit #1 spot in Ireland and #2 in the UK charts and #24 in USA. Recent guests have included Jason Vale, Bill Walsh, Bernardo Moya and Nicole Jacobs. Sara has firmly cemented her reputation as the go-to expert on domestic abuse, joining forces with The Dash Charity as their patron and recently launched the UK's first ever dedicated retreat 'How to divorce an abusive partner and recover from a toxic relationship', aimed at empowering those feeling helpless and overwhelmed with the critical tools they need to break free, so they can start their healing journey and redesign their lives. At the government level, Sara consults on marriage and divorce legislation, most recently the divorce law reform. Sara is also a regular media commentator and motivational speaker, and she recently starred as the expert in Heartbreak Hotel, a television show based around the concept of her Breakup Recovery Retreats. Resources & Links: Information and links can also be found at: https://kateanthony.com/podcast/from-heartbreak-to-happiness-with-sara-davison/ Get on the list to be notified about Grit & Grace!Sara's websiteSara on InstagramSara on FacebookSara on TwitterSara on LinkedInBreakup Survival Guide TODAY'S EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY: THE REVISED SHOULD I STAY OR SHOULD I GO? PROGRAM An online coaching program designed to help you make the right decision about your marriage...once and for all. In this groundbreaking online coaching program, you'll unlock the support, education and deep transformational work you need to finally answer to your most burning question: should I stay or should I go? JOIN THE SHOULD I STAY OR SHOULD I GO FACEBOOK GROUP

This week we're talking about marital finances, divorce, and how gaining clarity around your finances can help inform your decision about whether you should stay or go. Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan, founders of My Divorce Solution, join me to share some of the processes they utilize when working with clients to help them protect and secure their financial future in divorce. Karen and Catherine combine their legal and financial expertise to provide unparalleled financial clarity and divorce preparation – resulting in easier, faster, and less expensive divorces. Our hope is that through listening to this conversation you will have more power, more knowledge, and clarity about finances and divorce. "Everybody is entitled to financial clarity." Catherine Shanahan "If you decide to stay after working through your marital finances, you will be a different partner going forward." Karen Chellew Show Highlights My Divorce Solution: what it is and why Karen and Catherine created it (3:51) What to say if you are trying to get financial information from a bank or accountant who is refusing to give it without your soon-to-be-ex's consent (10:06) Do you need a CFDA or resource such as My Divorce Solution if your finances are not high-net-worth? The short answer: Yes. (20:37) How working with a financial advisor or analyst can help inform your decision about whether or not you should get a divorce (27:31) If you are working with a financial analyst, you are not committing to a divorce. You are learning What can be the most difficult thing about working through your marital finances? (36:00) An important reminder to women about finances and worth: you are worth it! (43:30) Learn more about Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan: Karen Chellew, Legal Liaison: For over 30 years, Karen has worked in the legal field as a paralegal and business manager. During her career, she served as an affiliated member of the Pennsylvania Bar Association and as President-Elect of the ALA (Association of Legal Administrators). Karen now serves clients and the professional team in her role as legal liaison. She is also a certified QDRO Administrator, Founder and President of Sisters U Foundation, and an Auditor of East Rockhill Township. As the mom of three children and two granddaughters, Karen is extremely passionate about helping women in all that she does. Catherine Shanahan, CDFA: After 25 years in the financial industry, having raised five children and endured her own experience with divorce, Catherine became a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA) and trained mediator. A Professional Daily Money Manager (PDMM), Catherine is also a member of the Bucks County Collaborative Law Group, American Association of Daily Money Managers (AADMM) the Institute for Divorce Financial Analysts, and the Association of Divorce Financial Planners (ADFP). Resources & Links:Information and links may also be found at: https://kateanthony.com/podcast/financial-clarity-and-your-divorce/ My Divorce Solution My Divorce Solution on Instagram My Divorce Solution on Twitter My Divorce Solution on Facebook My Divorce Solution on LinkedIn We Chat Divorce by My Divorce Solution on YouTube We Chat Divorce Podcast DSG Listeners - Get 30 Days Free on My Divorce Solution's Online Divorce Course Get a free quote for your financial portrait from My Divorce Solution TODAY'S EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY: SOBERLINK Proof. Protection. Peace of Mind. The Soberlink remote alcohol monitoring system consists of a portable breathalyzer with wireless technology for real-time results. With proven use as the leading choice in child custody cases since 2011, we are the only system that combines: Court admissibility in all 50 states Facial recognition Tamper detection Easy-to-read Advanced Reporting™ Trust the Experts in Remote Alcohol Monitoring Technology™ to support the best interests of the child in your Family Law cases. JOIN THE SHOULD I STAY OR SHOULD I GO FACEBOOK GROUP

Today, I have a solo episode for you! I am talking about community, specifically why it is important for women to be in a community with one another. My Facebook group has grown to over 10,000 members and on any given day you can see the magic that happens when women support one another. When you are surrounded by other women in similar situations it opens up space to share our experiences, struggles and wins. Ultimately, when women join together in a community we begin to own our collective power. In this episode I talk about: The impact women in community have on men The work of victims is to get to a place of feeling strong enough and empowered enough to be able to walk away Our true power lies in our connection to other women Resources & Links:Links and information may also be found at: https://kateanthony.com/podcast/solo-episode-the-power-of-community-grit-and-grace Get on the list to be notified about Grit & Grace! Why Women Need a Tribe, by Tanja Taljaard and Azriel Re'Shel Mothering Heights with Leonora Pitts Better Than Before: What I Learned About Making and Breaking Habits - to Sleep More, Quit Sugar, Procrastinate Less, and Generally Build a Happier Life, with Gretchen Rubin THE M3ND PROJECT The M3ND Project's mission is to bring clarity and validation to victims and survivors and to provide tools and resources for those who are responding to abuse. Annette Oltmans founded The M3ND Project coming out of her own experience as a survivor of emotional abuse and double abuse and after years of researching academic materials and personally interviewing hundreds of abuse survivors, therapists, and faith leaders. M3ND does this by providing various educational resources and training courses. The M3ND Project has three courses available: One for Victims and Survivors, One for Responders and Advocates, and The 3rd for Therapists seeking CEUs. The M3ND Project's Comprehensive Training Curriculum provides deep instruction on psychological abuse, double abuse, complex trauma, how to identify your own trauma and whether you are being abused, and the best protocols for responding to victims and those who cause harm. For course details and to register visit: https://kateanthony.com/mend JOIN THE SHOULD I STAY OR SHOULD I GO FACEBOOK GROUP

Dr. Heidi Brocke joins me for a discussion about toxic relationships and healing from them. Heidi is a toxic relationship awareness and healing specialist. After 14 years in an extremely emotionally and narcissistically abusive relationship, she broke the chains and turned her past into her passion. Today it is her mission to provide hope, healing, and freedom to those whose lives have been affected by toxic relationships, emotional abuse, and narcissistic behaviors. Show Highlights Heidi shares what she would say to women afraid to leave a partner for fear of alienation from their children (10:20) When we stay "for our kids," we think we are mitigating toxic behavior but in reality, we are condoning it (12:14) What the word toxic means in toxic relationships (15:42) The importance of shifting the focus on the diagnosis of your partner to focusing on you and what feels good or right for you (29:40) The only thing consistent about a toxic person is that they are inconsistent (34:40) Learn more about Dr. Heidi Brocke: Dr. Heidi Brocke is a Toxic Relationship Awareness & Healing Specialist. After spending 14 years in an extremely emotionally and narcissistically abusive relationship she broke the chains and turned her past into her passion; She left her 24 years career in healthcare to use her life experience and education to be the person she needed when she herself was trapped in the darkness of an unhealthy relationship to provide hope, healing, and freedom to those whose lives have been affected by toxic relationships, emotional abuse, and narcissistic behaviors. Through education, she presents the understanding needed to empower others to walk through fear and into their freedom. Today she has helped hundreds rid and heal their toxic relationships and hosts the popular podcast, It's not Normal, It's Toxic-rid your life of toxic people - with over a million listens worldwide. She's an international keynote speaker, recipient of Empowering Women in Business of The Year award by Inspiring Lives Magazine, and has been featured in both Forbes and Time Magazines for the dedication given to her clients and for her work in the toxic relationship area. Resources & Links: Links and information may also be found at: https://kateanthony.com/podcast/from-toxic-to-free-with-heidi-brocke/ Heidi's websiteHeidi on Facebook Heidi on LinkedIn Heidi on Instagram Heidi's Freedom Me Course The TPA It's Not Normal, It's Toxic with Dr, Heidi Brocke The Divorce and Beyond Podcast with Susan Guthrie, Esq. TODAY'S EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY: THE DIVORCE SURVIVAL PROGRAM As one of the pioneers of the divorce coaching industry, I've been helping women (most of whom are moms) navigate the divorce process for the last decade. AND NOW, FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, ALL OF MY DIVORCE WISDOM IS AVAILABLE IN ONE ONLINE PROGRAM. This program is 100% for you if… You're a mom looking for a clear roadmap to a divorce that won't destroy your kids You're looking for answers and a roadmap You understand that divorce is a long game You're willing to put away your boxing gloves You want this to be a respectful and collaborative process in service of your kids You understand that divorce is, first and foremost, an emotional process and you're ready to 'go there' Are you ready to learn from one of the world's top divorce experts and set yourself on the path towards the best possible outcome? YEAH, Y'ARE!!! JOIN THE SHOULD I STAY OR SHOULD I GO FACEBOOK GROUP