No Cap by CRE Daily

Rich Hill, Global Head of Real Estate Strategy at Principal Asset Management, shares his expertise overseeing $100B in real estate. He addresses why the office sector isn’t as doomed as many think, featuring shifting investor sentiments and rising originations. Rich also dives into the data center boom, outlining the risks and rewards driven by AI. He clarifies misconceptions around housing shortages and discusses evolving return expectations amid a transformed market landscape, bringing necessary clarity to an often chaotic industry.

Season 3, Episode 3: Tommy Lee, Global Head of Capital Markets at Trammell Crow Company, joins No Cap podcast for a deep dive into the return of institutional capital—and what it signals for commercial real estate in 2025. Under Lee’s leadership, Trammell Crow has raised and deployed over $22 billion since 2018, fueling large-scale development across major U.S. markets. In this episode, he breaks down how global capital is reentering the space, what risks are being mispriced, and why some deals just don’t pencil—no matter how they look on paper. We discuss: – The return of institutional investors and what it means for deal flow – Execution risk and capital stack dynamics in today’s market – Why distressed deals might not be the opportunity everyone thinks – The illusion of “risk-free” Treasuries and potential cracks in the system Thomas doesn’t hold back—and his perspective offers rare insight into how one of the industry’s top players is navigating the current CRE landscape. TOPICS 00:00 – Introduction 05:00 – CRE Pipeline Activity and Investor Sentiment 10:00 – Managing Relationships and Finding Real Opportunity 15:00 – Office Skepticism and Repositioning Challenges 20:02 – What the Capital Markets Team Is Seeing Nationwide 25:00 – Risk, Return, and Raising Capital in Today’s Climate 30:00 – Creative Structuring and Non-Traditional Capital 35:00 – What LPs Care About in 2025 40:00 – Regional Plays, Execution Risk, and Exit Timing 45:00 – What Makes a Deal Worth Saying No To 50:00 – Advice for the Next Generation of Real Estate Leaders Shoutout to our sponsor, InvestNext. One platform to raise and manage capital for real estate investment. For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily  CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.

Season 3, Episode 2: In this episode of No Cap Podcast, co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik sit down with John Imbriglia, CEO of Crowd Street, and Anna-Marie Allander Lieb, Investment Director, to discuss the company’s remarkable recovery from the $63M fraud scandal that rocked its platform. John and Anna-Marie dive deep into how they turned a crisis into one of the biggest expansions in private equity. The duo reveals their shift from crowdfunding to private equity, how they're leveraging AI for smarter due diligence, and why more Americans are moving away from traditional financial advisors in favor of self-directed investing. TOPICS 00:00 - Introduction 05:00 - The Nightingale Fraud Scandal 10:00 - John's Background and Expansion Vision 15:00 - Due Diligence and Sponsor Vetting 20:00 - Technology Updates and Brand Strategy 25:00 - Building Trust Without Financial Advisors 30:00 - AI Integration and Portfolio Management 35:00 - Multifamily and Retail 40:00 - Conservative Leverage and Credit Approach 44:00 - Fall Launch Timeline for Private Markets Shoutout to our sponsor, InvestNext. One platform to raise and manage capital for real estate investment. For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily  CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.

Tom Kennedy, Head of Research and Investment Strategy for Real Estate Americas at J.P. Morgan Asset Management and former central banker, shares bold predictions on commercial real estate trends. He discusses how deglobalization will reshape markets and why multifamily units are the top investment choice. Kennedy dives into the rise of data centers as a new asset class, the impact of AI and immigration on the labor market, and the evolving landscape driven by interest rates. He also critiques traditional portfolio strategies, pushing for innovative alternatives.

Season 2, Episode 13: In this episode of No Cap Podcast by CRE Daily, hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik sit down with Don Tepman, the man behind The Strip Mall Guy. Don shares the story of how a single Twitter post launched a thriving commercial real estate brand and led to millions in deals. He reveals how going public transformed everything, why he doesn’t believe in real estate courses, and how he’s built a business around value-add strip malls. Don also discusses his rise from broker to principal, his strategy for building strong broker relationships, and the role AI might play in shaping the future of real estate. Plus, get an exclusive look into his legendary annual gala and what makes it so special. Whether you’re into real estate, deal-making, or just love a great story, this episode is for you! CHAPTERS 00:00 - Introduction 08:31 - Going Public & Deal Flow Explosion 15:28 - From Broker to Principal 22:33 - Value-Add Strategy & Market Challenges 27:48 - Broker Relations & Fund Structure 31:32 - Social Media Strategy & Real Estate Courses 35:15 - Advice for Newcomers & Importance of Mentorship 41:39 - Annual Gala Preview & Closing Thoughts For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily  CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.

Season 2, Episode 12: In this episode of The No Cap Podcast, hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the madness of the week’s biggest headlines, including Trump’s unexpected tariff drop, the resurgence of REITs, and Meta’s new data center. They also dive into why Shein and Temu may be facing serious troubles and what all of this means for the economy and real estate. From inflation to energy crises, the latest on the stock market to a birthday bobblehead discussion — this episode has it all. CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Introduction 05:11 - Hooters’ Bankruptcy & Rebrand 09:17 - REITs vs Developers 14:56 - Treasuries, Tariffs & China 21:15 - Long-Term Strategy 25:10 - Inflation, Real Estate & The Dollar 31:28 - Meta’s Data Center & Energy 34:38 - Detroit, AI & Housing Crisis We want to thank our sponsor Greysteel.  For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily  CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.  

Season 2, Episode 11: In this episode of No Cap by CRE Daily, hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik are joined by CNBC’s Senior Retail Reporter, Courtney Reagan, to discuss the fast-evolving retail market. From Q4 earnings to tariff shocks and the future of physical retail, Courtney breaks down the latest trends and challenges facing major brands like Walmart, Gap, and luxury retailers on Fifth Avenue. They dive deep into how the retail environment is shifting, with policy changes, economic uncertainty, and evolving consumer behavior at the forefront. Plus, Courtney shares insights on why some retailers are struggling, how e-commerce is reshaping the landscape, and what the future holds for in-store shopping. CHAPTERS: 00:00 – Introduction 04:52 – Wealth Perception & Consumer Spending 14:55 – Groceries, Inflation, and the Future of Big Box Retail 20:18 – Retail Stress: Fed’s Impact & Luxury Brands 33:31 – Manufacturers & Nostalgia's Influence on Consumers 41:55 – Persisting Tariffs & Evolving Retail 48:31 – Retail Return Fraud & TJ Maxx's Dynamic Inventory We want to thank our sponsor Greysteel.  For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily  CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.

Season 2, Episode 10: In this episode of the No Cap Podcast, hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik sit down with Spencer Burton, co-founder of Adventures in CRE and CRE Agents, to explore how technology and innovation are transforming the real estate industry. With years of experience in real estate, Spencer shares how he revolutionized the field by creating essential financial modeling tools used by thousands and pioneering AI-powered digital coworkers. From his early days as an analyst to founding AC and now leading CR Agents, Spencer gives us an insider's view of the future of real estate, where automation and digital entities will take on repetitive tasks and allow professionals to elevate their work. CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Introduction 04:00 - Community & Free Models 12:34 - The ACR Project & Accelerator Program 18:21 - Land Brokerage & Panama 24:26 - Time, Growth & Consulting 31:54 - Stablewood & Tech 40:34 - Vertical AI Platforms & Digital Coworkers 48:10 - AI Future & Fun We want to thank our sponsor Greysteel.  For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily  CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.

Season 2, Episode 9: In this episode of the No Cap Podcast, hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik sit down with Marc DeLuca, CEO of KBS, to explore how the firm has navigated the ever-changing landscape of office real estate. With over 30 years of experience in the industry, Marc has managed billions of dollars in real estate across the Eastern U.S. and Mid-Atlantic regions, overseeing some of the most strategic acquisitions in the office sector. He shares the secrets to KBS’s success, from innovative office amenities to a renewed focus on tenant relationships. Learn how KBS has continued to excel in the office space market despite the challenges posed by COVID-19, economic uncertainty, and shifting workplace trends. CHAPTERS: 00:00 – Introduction 09:53 – Shifting Focus & Challenges 19:44 – Tenant Support & Interest Rates 25:22 – Return to Office & Recovery 35:14 – Leasing Demand & Corporate Moves 43:33 – Financing in Uncertain Times 49:35 – Top Markets & KBS Adaptation 57:02 – Innovative Amenities & Trends We want to thank our sponsor Greysteel.  For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily  CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.

Albert Lojko, CEO of Lightbox, shares insights on how AI is revolutionizing the commercial real estate (CRE) sector by organizing and digitizing fragmented data. He discusses how technology streamlines transactions and enhances collaboration, making life easier for brokers and investors. Hear about innovative solutions for automating appraisals and document generation, as well as the importance of data integrity amidst the rapid advancement of AI. Lojko emphasizes the need for integrated systems to optimize decision-making in a competitive landscape.