
#SistersInLaw
Politicon brings the brilliant team of political and legal masterminds together for Politicon's #SistersInLaw.
Joyce Vance, Jill Wine-Banks, Barb McQuade, and Kimberly Atkins Stohr will pull back the curtain on how our government actually works, take on the corrupt, share their wisdom and give us their rulings on the latest in politics, law, and culture.
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Oct 14, 2023 • 59min
152: All The Bad Dudes
Jill WIne-Banks hosts #SistersInLaw to delve into the superseding indictment of Senator Menedez. They examine how his role as the chair of the Foreign Relations Committee gives the charges against him national security ramifications, and lay out the political implications if he ends up resigning. Moving on to the next indictment, they break down the charges against Rep. Santos with a look at how his actions defrauded his donors and the election process. From there, they explain the differences between political and racial gerrymandering and how South Carolina’s conflation of the two has taken their recently drawn congressional map to the Supreme Court.
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Mentioned By The #Sisters:
From Joyce on the gerrymandering case before the SCOTUS
Senator Menendez Indictment
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Joyce Vance: Twitter | University of Alabama Law | MSNBC | Civil Discourse Substack
Jill Wine-Banks: Twitter | Facebook | Website | Author of The Watergate Girl: My Fight For Truth & Justice Against A Criminal President
Kimberly Atkins Stohr: Twitter | Boston Globe | WBUR | Unbound Newsletter
Barb McQuade: Twitter | University of Michigan Law | Just Security | MSNBC

Oct 7, 2023 • 1h 2min
151: No Film In The Camera
Discussion on national security implications of Trump's sharing of information, feasibility of his motions to delay, progress of Rico cases, First Amendment issues in upcoming social media moderation case taken up by SCOTUS. Also explores past jobs, Thrive Cosmetics, Trump's Mar-a-Lago incident, handling of classified information, Olive and June's manicure offerings, plea deals and trial of lawyer defendants, alleged plot involving Trump's lawyer and GOP members, legal battle between social media giants and state Republicans, implications for free press and regulation of social media platforms.

Sep 30, 2023 • 46min
150: On the Other Side of the V
Discussion of Trump's legal problems, summary judgment in fraud case, bribery charges against Senator Menendez, weakening of anti-corruption laws, challenges to DEI programs, personal anecdotes, Moink ad, potential resignation of Menendez, national security concerns, developing DEI practices in law firms, Kitch beauty products, legal language

Sep 23, 2023 • 1h 1min
149: Live in Austin, TX
Joyce Vance hosts #SistersInLaw live at TribFest in Austin, Texas! First, they cover the latest developments in the Trump prosecutions, including the damaging testimony by Molly Michael in the Mar-A-Lago trial, Jack Smith’s call for a gag order in the DC case, and the attempted removal to federal court by multiple defendants in Georgia. Then, they discuss House Republicans’ weaponization of government through their evidence free impeachment inquiry of President Biden. From there, they look at critical cases coming before the SCOTUS in the upcoming session that will decide government officials' use of social media, gun rights when there is a domestic violence protection order, and how to limit racial gerrymandering.
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From Kim on the gun case going to the Supreme Court
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Joyce Vance: Twitter | University of Alabama Law | MSNBC | Civil Discourse Substack
Jill Wine-Banks: Twitter | Facebook | Website | Author of The Watergate Girl: My Fight For Truth & Justice Against A Criminal President
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Sep 16, 2023 • 52min
148: If We Can Make It Here, We Can Make It Anywhere
The podcast discusses the trials of Trump World, including Mark Meadows' failed attempt to remove his Georgia charges to federal court. They also talk about the DACA policy and the recent ruling on its legality. Additionally, they cover Hunter Biden's legal case and the debate over the charges against him. The chapter also mentions challenges to federal policy, frustrations with the Supreme Court and Congress, and a skincare product called OS one.

Sep 9, 2023 • 58min
147: That Time Jill Gave Back The Panama Canal
Topics covered in this podcast include Peter Navarro's conviction for contempt of Congress, a potential lawsuit in Colorado to keep Trump off the ballot, the DOJ's suit against Texas over barriers in the Rio Grande river, and the implications of the 14th Amendment on insurrection. They also discuss strategies for politely ending conversations, salon-quality manicures, Hello Fresh meal planning, and the features of Helix mattresses.

Sep 2, 2023 • 59min
146: Rudy Rudy Rudy
Podcast discusses Rudy Giuliani's defamation case, updates on Trump's trials, and Mark Meadows' ill-advised testimony. They explain arraignments and why Trump's co-conspirators in Georgia waived them. Topics also include online safety, trial speed, discovery process, severability in criminal cases, and due process rights.

Aug 26, 2023 • 54min
145: Never Surrender
Joyce Vance hosts #SistersInLaw to reflect on Trump’s mugshot and discuss the attempts by his co-conspirators to gain an advantage in their trials by attempting to speed up the process and to remove their Georgia cases to federal court. Then they cover possible conflicts of interest in the Mar-A-Lago case when a lawyer is shared by defendants, and how a Garcia Hearing can shield the judge and prosecutors from claims by the defendants. They also break down the fresh lawsuit filed by the DOJ against Elon’s SpaceX for hiring discrimination against the protected class of asylees and refugees. Is Musk personally liable?
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Joyce Vance: Twitter | University of Alabama Law | MSNBC | Civil Discourse Substack
Jill Wine-Banks: Twitter | Facebook | Website | Author of The Watergate Girl: My Fight For Truth & Justice Against A Criminal President
Kimberly Atkins Stohr: Twitter | Boston Globe | WBUR | Unbound Newsletter
Barb McQuade: Twitter | University of Michigan Law | Just Security | MSNBC

Aug 19, 2023 • 59min
144: A Smörgåsbord of Charges
Jill Wine-Banks hosts #SistersInLaw to analyze the indictment of Trump by Fani Willis in Georgia, the extent of RICO charges that he and his co-conspirators face, and what happens if threats to the judge and grand jurors continue. Then, they lay out the legal attempts by conservatives to restrict and ban mifepristone and how their challenges will likely be resolved. From there, they discuss how the 1st Amendment protects journalists after the police raid on the offices of the Marion County Record, and the balance between national security and our rights.
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Article From The #Sisters:
From Kim on the how the recent Trump indictment relates to voting rights
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Joyce Vance: Twitter | University of Alabama Law | MSNBC | Civil Discourse Substack
Jill Wine-Banks: Twitter | Facebook | Website | Author of The Watergate Girl: My Fight For Truth & Justice Against A Criminal President
Kimberly Atkins Stohr: Twitter | Boston Globe | WBUR | Unbound Newsletter
Barb McQuade: Twitter | University of Michigan Law | Just Security | MSNBC

Aug 12, 2023 • 1h 5min
143: The Sharpest Cheese
Kimberly Atkins Stohr leads the #SistersInLaw in a discussion of protective orders and of why it is so important for Judge Chutkan to have one against Trump to safeguard witnesses and others involved in his trial. Next, they cover the appointment of a special counsel to handle the potential crimes of Hunter Biden and explore how it will affect the political conversation. The sisters then lay out how Ron DeSantis is taking authoritarian steps to undermine democracy in his state by suspending state attorneys for political reasons in opposition to the will of the voters.
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Joyce Vance: Twitter | University of Alabama Law | MSNBC | Civil Discourse Substack
Jill Wine-Banks: Twitter | Facebook | Website | Author of The Watergate Girl: My Fight For Truth & Justice Against A Criminal President
Kimberly Atkins Stohr: Twitter | Boston Globe | WBUR | Unbound Newsletter
Barb McQuade: Twitter | University of Michigan Law | Just Security | MSNBC