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Politicon brings the brilliant team of political and legal masterminds together for Politicon's #SistersInLaw.
Joyce Vance, Jill Wine-Banks, Barb McQuade, and Kimberly Atkins Stohr will pull back the curtain on how our government actually works, take on the corrupt, share their wisdom and give us their rulings on the latest in politics, law, and culture.
Joyce Vance, Jill Wine-Banks, Barb McQuade, and Kimberly Atkins Stohr will pull back the curtain on how our government actually works, take on the corrupt, share their wisdom and give us their rulings on the latest in politics, law, and culture.
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Jan 4, 2025 • 1h 15min
217: 25 Cent Word
Kimberly Atkins Stohr hosts #SistersInLaw to discuss the law enforcement response to the NOLA terror attack, the effect of its designation as terrorism, the protections granted by our civil liberties, and how to combat radicalization. Then, the #Sisters give their takes on the SCOTUS’ year-end report, calling out the justices for undermining the rule of law by failing to live up to their ethics guidelines and inadequate transparency. They also investigate whether Section 3 of the 14th Amendment can keep Trump out of the Oval Office and what it would have required from our lawmakers.
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More From The #Sisters:
From Joyce - Trump Pardoning Jan. 6 Insurrectionists Would Endorse Attacks on Democracy
From Barb - The FBI's Terrorism Designation In New Orleans Is Much More Than A Symbolic Act
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Jill Wine-Banks: Bluesky | Twitter | Facebook | Website | Author of The Watergate Girl: My Fight For Truth & Justice Against A Criminal President | Just The Facts YouTube
Kimberly Atkins Stohr: Bluesky | Twitter | Boston Globe | WBUR | Unbound Newsletter | Justice By Design Podcast
Barb McQuade: Bluesky | Twitter | University of Michigan Law | Just Security | MSNBC | Attack From Within: How Disinformation Is Sabotaging America

Dec 28, 2024 • 56min
216: Super Yacht Rock
Joyce Vance hosts #SistersInLaw to review the bipartisan House Ethics Committee's report on Matt Gaetz, explain the federal and state statutes he appears to have violated, and determine whether he will face any consequences. Then, the #Sisters discuss the Senate Judiciary Committee’s ethics report, its recommendations, the refusal of the SCOTUS to accept any oversight from the other branches of government, and how its justices are eroding public confidence in our legal system. They also break down President Biden’s veto of the JUDGES Act and examine whether it would strengthen the rule of law.
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Jill Wine-Banks: Bluesky | Twitter | Facebook | Website | Author of The Watergate Girl: My Fight For Truth & Justice Against A Criminal President | Just The Facts YouTube
Kimberly Atkins Stohr: Bluesky | Twitter | Boston Globe | WBUR | Unbound Newsletter | Justice By Design Podcast
Barb McQuade: Bluesky | Twitter | University of Michigan Law | Just Security | MSNBC

Dec 21, 2024 • 1h 6min
215: Minnie Mouse Would Do A Better Job
Barb McQuade hosts #SistersInLaw to discuss Fani Willis’ disqualification from prosecuting the case against Trump, his settlement with ABC for defamation, the targeting of pollster Ann Selzer, and if 1st Amendment protections should apply. Then, the #Sisters cover the state and federal charges against Luigi Mangione, his eligibility for the death penalty, potential mitigating factors in the case, and the deterrent effect of his prosecution. They also explain the tension between free speech and national security in TikTok’s battle to avoid its upcoming ban in the United States.
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More From The #Sisters:
Hallmark’s Hannukah On Rye
From Barb - The Case For Charging Luigi Mangione With Terrorism
From Barb - The FBI Director’s Resignation Gives Trump An Easy Out
From Kim - Hallmark Christmas Movies Are Comin' To Town
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Dec 14, 2024 • 1h 6min
214: Misprision
Jill Wine-Banks hosts #SistersInLaw to discuss the arrest of Luigi Mangione in the murder of the UHC CEO, looking at the attempt to extradite him, the use of surveillance cameras to catch him, and the legal status of ghost guns similar to the one used in the crime. Then, the #Sisters explain clemency, contextualize its recent use by President Biden, and weigh its pros and cons. They also share their takes on Harmeet Dhillon’s appointment to the head of the DOJ’s Civil Rights Division, the importance of the FBI Director’s 10-year term, and the Inspector General.
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More From The #Sisters:
From Joyce on Pardons, Chris Wray, and DOJ's Inspector General
From Barb on The Art of the Counter-Punch
From Barb on Why Trump Can’t Just End Birthright Citizenship
From Jill on Why Biden Was Right to Pardon His Son Hunter
From Kim on How Clemency Can Help Save Us All
Chris Wray’s Resignation
The Tree Moat Photo
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Jill Wine-Banks: Bluesky | Twitter | Facebook | Website | Author of The Watergate Girl: My Fight For Truth & Justice Against A Criminal President | Just The Facts YouTube
Kimberly Atkins Stohr: Bluesky | Twitter | Boston Globe | WBUR | Unbound Newsletter | Justice By Design Podcast
Barb McQuade: Bluesky | Twitter | University of Michigan Law | Just Security | MSNBC

Dec 7, 2024 • 1h 3min
213: Pardon Me
Explore the complexities of presidential pardons as the hosts debate Hunter Biden's recent pardon. They discuss the historical context and implications for accountability in clemency decisions. Delving into the tragic death of Tyre Nichols, they highlight the role of the DOJ in police accountability. The conversation shifts to the Supreme Court's examination of Tennessee's ban on gender-affirming care, shedding light on discrimination and rights for transgender minors. The lively mix of anecdotes and serious topics creates an engaging dialogue.

Nov 30, 2024 • 46min
212: Keep Calm And Carry On
Joyce Vance hosts #SistersInLaw to investigate whether this is the end of the federal cases against Trump, explain the basis for their dismissal, and look ahead to the potential for them to be taken up after his presidency. Then, the #Sisters discuss the challenges federal employees will face under the new administration and call for them to stay and fight to maintain the rule of law. They also push back against Elon’s misguided attack on Lt. Col. Vindman, break down the legal definition of treason, and expose the danger created by Musk’s new quasi-governmental role.
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Nov 23, 2024 • 59min
211: Attorneys General
Barb McQuade hosts #SistersInLaw to discuss Matt Gaetz’s withdrawal from contention for attorney general in favor of Pam Bondi by looking at whether his appointment was a strategy to make her seem more palatable and the negatives she brings to the table. Then, the #Sisters detail the guardrails being erected by governors, a coalition of state attorney generals, and ordinary citizens to defend our constitution from the 2nd Trump administration. They also explain the status of Trump’s cases in GA and NY, what will happen before he takes office and the fate of his co-conspirators who have already pled guilty.
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Pam Bondi’s Canine Custody Battle
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Jill Wine-Banks: Bluesky | Twitter | Facebook | Website | Author of The Watergate Girl: My Fight For Truth & Justice Against A Criminal President | Just The Facts YouTube
Kimberly Atkins Stohr: Bluesky | Twitter | Boston Globe | WBUR | Unbound Newsletter | Justice By Design Podcast
Barb McQuade: Bluesky | Twitter | University of Michigan Law | Just Security | MSNBC

Nov 16, 2024 • 1h 3min
210: Risible
Jill Wine-Banks hosts #SistersInLaw to investigate Trump’s cabinet appointees, exposing Matt Gaetz's improprieties and threat to the rule of law, Pete Hegseth’s troublingly light resume and lack of executive experience, and RFK Jr.’s advocacy of conspiracy-laden medical misinformation. Then, the #Sisters discuss the future of Jack Smith’s prosecutions, looking at what we can expect from his final brief and the national security ramifications of the dangerous precedent Trump has set by failing to protect classified materials. They also debate the ability of the SCOTUS to serve as a check on the presidency and emphasize the role lower courts' have in the battle for our democracy.
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From Barb:
Gaetz May Not Mind The Law. DOJ Staff Must.
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Kimberly Atkins Stohr: Bluesky | Twitter | Boston Globe | WBUR | Unbound Newsletter | Justice By Design Podcast
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Nov 9, 2024 • 1h 3min
209: Searching For Answers
In the aftermath of the election, Kimberly Atkins Stohr hosts #SistersInLaw to answer your questions. The #Sisters cover the guardrails that can protect the country from Trump, what happens to his criminal cases and convictions, the effect of the election on his sentencing, and why the civil cases and judgments against him might prove to be the best tool for holding him accountable. They also discuss the spread of disinformation, how to limit the dangers of social media, why people might have split their vote, getting the facts out, how to break out of our echo chambers, and more.
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From Barb:
Will the Trump Prosecutions Go Away?
Defending the Truth in a Second Trump Term
Post-Election Analysis with U-M Faculty Experts
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Kimberly Atkins Stohr: Twitter | Boston Globe | WBUR | Unbound Newsletter | Justice By Design Podcast
Barb McQuade: Twitter | University of Michigan Law | Just Security | MSNBC

Nov 2, 2024 • 1h 9min
208: The Election
The hosts dive into the wave of election lawsuits by the Republicans and their challenging tactics on mail-in ballots. They discuss the influence of money in politics, critiquing Citizens United and Elon Musk's controversial financial offers to voters. The importance of the DOJ in protecting electoral integrity and fighting voter suppression is emphasized, alongside the legal complexities surrounding voter rights. Personal reflections on managing stress during the election period add a heartfelt touch to the conversation.


