
#SistersInLaw
Politicon brings the brilliant team of political and legal masterminds together for Politicon's #SistersInLaw.
Joyce Vance, Jill Wine-Banks, Barb McQuade, and Kimberly Atkins Stohr will pull back the curtain on how our government actually works, take on the corrupt, share their wisdom and give us their rulings on the latest in politics, law, and culture.
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Sep 21, 2024 • 1h 19min
202: Live at 92NY
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Correction:
Students may vote where they are enrolled in school, and other voters may vote only where they reside.
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Sep 14, 2024 • 1h 2min
201: Stop Sane Washing Trump
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Kimberly Atkins Stohr hosts #SistersInLaw to analyze Kamala’s performance in the debate and weigh its impact on the election, looking at the expectations placed on the candidates, the efficacy of the moderators, Trump’s failure to hide his bigotry, and how the electorate will interpret their performances. Then, the #Sisters discuss the indictment of the men behind the Terrorgram Collective, the role hate crimes and terrorism statutes play in stopping violence, and whether the prosecution raises any conflicts with the right to free speech and association. They also sound the alarm over Project 2025’s assault on workplace protections and DEI initiaitives.
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From Barb on what the debate showed us about Trump’s 2nd term
From Barb on why the DOJ charged Hamas leaders
From Barb on the DOJ charges against Russian influence operations
From Joyce on the Terrorgram indictment
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Sep 7, 2024 • 1h 8min
200: Gobble Gobble Donald Trump
Legal battles heat up as the speakers analyze Judge Chutkan's handling of Trump's election interference case. They delve into the implications for the upcoming election and the DOJ's actions against Hamas and Russian propaganda. A chilling discussion arises around juvenile justice, with a focus on parental responsibility in a recent school shooting. They highlight the need for effective gun violence prevention strategies while also scrutinizing the intersection of legal intricacies and political accountability.

Aug 31, 2024 • 1h 1min
199: Jack's Back
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Barb McQuade hosts #SistersInLaw to discuss Jack Smith's superseding indictment, why he used a new grand jury, how he reframed the charges to preserve each count, and his attempt to reinstate the MAL classified documents case against Trump. Then, the #Sisters lay out the scope of the Republican war on voting rights, looking at the push for increased documentation, how naturalized citizens are getting kicked off the voter rolls, and raids by Texas AG Paxton targeting Latino civil rights organizations. They also break down the Project 2025 plan to put the FBI under the jurisdiction of the executive branch and reflect on what it means for the rule of law.
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Trump’s Court Brief
Jack Smith’s recent and previous indictments of Trump
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Aug 24, 2024 • 1h 21min
198: Comma La La La
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Jill Wine-Banks hosts #SistersInLaw to celebrate Kamala’s nomination, explore her commitment to her values and the rule of law, and review the positions she’s taken on criminal justice issues on her journey from DA to presidential contender. Then, the #Sisters discuss voter disenfranchisement and suppression through the lens of a reinstated felony voter fraud conviction of a woman who didn’t know she wasn’t allowed to vote in Texas. They also explain the links between Trump and Project 2025’s plans for the Department of Defense, looking at how their adoption would undermine our military’s commitment to DEI, civil rights, and environmental responsibility.
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Kamala questions Justice Kavanaugh
Pros and cons of felon disenfranchisement
Media Matter’s Project 2025 Guide
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Aug 17, 2024 • 50min
197: Post-Menopausal Females
The hosts dive into the impact of public perceptions on post-menopausal women and the need for better healthcare support. They tackle the alarming resurgence of restrictive abortion laws and how recent court battles affect women's rights. The discussion shifts to the dangers of AI, particularly its role in spreading disinformation and creating deep fakes in politics. Project 2025 is scrutinized, highlighting its potential implications for democracy. Personal anecdotes and light-hearted moments balance the serious themes, making for an engaging conversation.

Aug 10, 2024 • 56min
196: Don’t Hate Me ‘Cause You Ain’t Me
A DC judge's ruling against Google sparks discussions on antitrust and big tech monopolies. The legal team explores the consequences of guilty pleas from Jenna Ellis and a fake elector, relating them to Trump's status as an unindicted co-conspirator. They also dive into the complexities of military commissions versus civilian courts and the push to ban no-fault divorce. The conversation highlights the need for accountability in politics, especially regarding presidential pardons and their impact on democracy.

Aug 7, 2024 • 40min
195: In The Hands Of The Voters with Marc Elias
Here is the first episode of Kim's new podcast Justice By Design, find it here
Kim is joined by Marc Elias, the founder of Democracy Docket, about the importance of protecting voting rights and the challenges faced in doing so. They discuss the dangerous rhetoric of former President Donald Trump and the need to take his words seriously. They also highlight the barriers to voting, such as long wait times and gerrymandering, and the impact these have on marginalized communities. The conversation emphasizes the need for congressional legislation to protect voting rights and the importance of individuals speaking out and taking action.
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Aug 3, 2024 • 57min
194: Nothing To See Here
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Barb McQuade hosts #SistersInLaw to discuss the plea deal with 9/11 mastermind KSM, differences between military tribunals and civilian courts, evidentiary issues that make it challenging to try Guantanamo prisoners, and the prisoner swap with Russia. Then, the #Sisters explain what happens now that Trump’s DC case has returned to Judge Chutkan, how to categorize presidential actions under the immunity decision, and the possible illegality of an Egyptian financial transfer to his campaign. They also sound the alarm over Project 2025’s assault on the bureaucracy and the danger of Trump reviving the executive order that created Schedule F.
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UN Guantanamo Report
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Jul 27, 2024 • 60min
193: Screwed, Blued, and Tattooed
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Jill Wine-Banks hosts #SistersInLaw to explain how the courts are using Sections 203 and 208 of the Voting Rights Act to shut down Republican attempts to disenfranchise voters who need absentee ballots. Then, the #Sisters discuss Alvin Bragg’s response to Trump’s attempt to use the SCOTUS immunity decision to overturn his convictions, review why he should fail based on procedural default, and look ahead to when we can expect him to be sentenced. They also expose Trump’s support of Project 2025 and how a philosophy of Christian Nationalism lies behind its stated goals.
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