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Dec 11, 2023 • 1h 1min

Unleashing the Power of the Team OODA loop: Lessons from High-Performance Teams in Risk Management and Debriefing with Gareth Lock | Ep 57

Discover the hidden power of teamwork as Gareth Lock unveils the critical components of effective collaboration. He challenges common myths about team development, stressing the need for ongoing learning and trust. From insights drawn from high-performance sports to practical solutions for enhancing communication, you'll learn how to foster a dynamic team environment. The importance of debriefing, reflection, and embracing adaptability for success also takes center stage, redefining how we view teamwork in any organization.
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Dec 4, 2023 • 1h 8min

Taking Flight: Exploring the Intersection of Design, Aviation, and Engineering Psychology with John Flach | Ep 56

Join John Flach, design and aviation expert, as he takes us on a thrilling journey through the intersection of design, aviation, and engineering psychology. From the tragic story of John Denver to the role of situational awareness in human-centered design, we explore control systems, cybernetics, and the fascinating relationship between optic flow and flight control. Discover the innovative approach of the Wright brothers and delve into neuroscience with John Boyd's doodle loop. This captivating conversation ends with reflections on the power of synergy and problem-solving.
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Nov 15, 2023 • 54min

'Slowify:' How Winning Organizations Create Fingerspitzengefühl & Einheit with Steven J. Spear, DBA | Ep 55

Send us a textHow are winning organizations wired? Ready to elevate your perspective on complex problem-solving? Brace yourself as we invite Shingo Prize Winner  Steven J.  Spear to a lively discussion on navigating the fast-paced world of technology and organizational complexity. Dr. Spear introduces us to the concept of 'slowification,' an innovative method of architecting operations around human cognitive capabilities. This enlightening conversation promises a fresh insight into how organizations can shift from being in a danger zone to a winning zone.Ever wondered about the role of planning in the world of knowledge work? We delve into the historical military strategies and lessons learned from the Battle of Midway in 1929. Dr. Spear emphasizes the need for challenging ideas during the planning process, a concept inspired by the Japanese Admiralty's approach used in said battle. We also explore the relevance of case-based reasoning, resilience engineering, and high-reliability theory in the DevOps community, drawing parallels with European city architecture and the scientific breakthroughs of Isaac Newton.Our conversation concludes with invaluable lessons learned from the US Navy's nuclear reactors program. We underscore the essence of establishing precise standards, tracking progress, and forming feedback loops. We extend an invitation to you, our listener, as we uncover how to thrive in an ever-evolving landscape of technological advancement and organizational complexity. Tune in and let's navigate this journey together.Steven J. Spear on LinkedIn Wiring the Winning OrganizationHigh-Velocity EdgeNWO Intro with Boyd March 25, 2025 Flow Learning Lab Find us on X. @NoWayOutcast Substack: The Whirl of ReOrientation Want to develop your organization’s capacity for free and independent action (Organic Success)? Learn more and follow us at:https://www.aglx.com/https://www.youtube.com/@AGLXConsultinghttps://www.linkedin.com/company/aglx-consulting-llc/https://www.linkedin.com/in/briandriverahttps://www.linkedin.com/in/markjmcgrath1https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevemccroneStay in the Loop. Don't have time to listen to the podcast? Want to make some snowmobiles? Subscribe to our weekly newsletter to receive deeper insights on current and past episodes.Recent podcasts where you’ll also find Mark and Ponch: The No Bell Podcast Episode 24...
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Nov 6, 2023 • 1h 19min

Decoding John Boyd: Unveiling the Complexity and Influence of His Theories with Shawn Callahan, PhD | Ep 54

Shawn Callahan, a Fellow Marine and expert on military strategist John Boyd's theories, sheds light on the significance of understanding orientation in Boyd's OODA loop. They also explore Boyd's impact on the Academy, his study of thermodynamics, and his influence on the Marine Corps. Shawn expresses concern over the reduction of Boyd's theories to mere dogma and advocates for a revision to restore his original intent.
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Nov 2, 2023 • 1h 15min

Theory of Constraints: Flow, TPS and Boyd's OODA Loop with Steve Holt | Ep 53

"Theory of Constraints, TPS, and Boyd's OODA Loop" features guest Steve Holt, a Technical Fellow at Boeing. The podcast covers the influence of TOPGUN on John Boyd's thinking, Boyd's E-M Theory and its impact on aircraft design, and the critical analysis of the Theory of Constraints. The conversation also touches on the concept of inherent simplicity in managing a system's performance. Topics like flow systems in fulfillment centers, tempo and choosing constraints, and the application of these theories to different systems are explored. The importance of involving people in decision-making and the connections between Theory of Constraints, OODA Loop, and flow are also discussed.
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Oct 30, 2023 • 1h 23min

Constraints, Context, Complexity, and Culture with Alicia Juarrero, PhD | Ep 52

Alicia Juarrero, expert in organizational dynamics and complexity theory, discusses the interdependencies, coherence, and constraints within organizations. The podcast explores topics such as thermodynamics, orientation, observation, and the brain's predictive constraints. It also delves into the dangers of social media algorithms and discusses current events and the speakers' upcoming trip to Washington, D.C.
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Oct 24, 2023 • 1h 4min

The Triple Helix of Flow: The Flow System Playbook with John Turner, PhD and Nigel Thurlow | Ep 51

In this podcast, Ponch talks with John Turner, PhD and Nigel Thurlow about the upcoming Flow System Playbook. They discuss the importance of applying the methods and techniques of the Flow System to unique contexts and how their diverse backgrounds have shaped the playbook. They delve into the Triple Helix of Flow and its role in achieving flow through complexity thinking, distributive leadership, and team science. The discussion also covers the significance of organizational coaching, distributed leadership, and the wealth of knowledge contained within the playbook.
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Oct 19, 2023 • 1h 28min

Red Teaming with Colonel (Ret.) Steven Rotkoff

Former director of the U.S. Army’s “Red Team University” Steve Rotkoff discusses the principles of Red Teaming and its application beyond warfare. Topics include cognitive diversity, software, social media, telecommunications, and international policy schools.
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Oct 16, 2023 • 60min

Wargaming: Building Adaptive Leadership Capability with Ian Brown

Send us a textReady for a mental workout that will leave you with a deeper understanding of maneuver warfare, wargaming, and strategic thinking? Buckle up as we delve into the influential work of John Boyd, the man behind OODA Loop, and his significant impact on the US Marines. Our guest, the author of "New Conception of War, John Boyd, the US Marines and Maneuver Warfare," shares his insights on Boyd's contributions and the challenges of institutionalizing maneuver warfare.We also traverse the captivating realm of wargaming, discussing its role in enhancing decision-making skills and understanding complex s environments. The conversation touches upon the potential misuse of war games, the importance of clear objectives, and the varying interpretations of the Millennium Challenge 2002 war game led by General Paul K Van Riper. Whether you are well-versed in military tactics or a novice, the insights in this discussion will change the way you view strategic decision-making.Rounding off our intellectual expedition, we explore the potential pitfalls of wargaming and how these can be sidestepped by ensuring everyone has a thorough understanding of the game's purpose. Plus, we reflect on how war gaming could be a game-changer in developing the habit of decision-making and equipping individuals for complex circumstances. So, if you’re ready to revolutionize your strategic thinking, this episode is a must-listen.A New Conception Of War: John Boyd, The U.S. Marines and Maneuver Warfare by Ian Brown A New Conception of War PDF The John Boyd Primer by Ian BrownNWO Intro with Boyd March 25, 2025 Flow Learning Lab Find us on X. @NoWayOutcast Substack: The Whirl of ReOrientation Want to develop your organization’s capacity for free and independent action (Organic Success)? Learn more and follow us at:https://www.aglx.com/https://www.youtube.com/@AGLXConsultinghttps://www.linkedin.com/company/aglx-consulting-llc/https://www.linkedin.com/in/briandriverahttps://www.linkedin.com/in/markjmcgrath1https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevemccroneStay in the Loop. Don't have time to listen to the podcast? Want to make some snowmobiles? Subscribe to our weekly newsletter to receive deeper insights on current and past episodes.Recent podcasts where you’ll also find Mark and Ponch: The No Bell Podcast Episode 24...
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Oct 7, 2023 • 43min

Flow: Reimagining Agile (WAF 2023 Panel: Hendrickson, Kerievsky, Kleiner, Denning, Kern)

Send us a textReady to unlock the potential of flow and examine the future of Agile? This episode promises to immerse you in a captivating discussion with our guests Chet Hendrickson, Steve Denning,  Jon Kern,  Joshua Kerievsky, and Mirko Kleiner, as we collectively navigate the realms of management, safety, human-centered design, and cognitive diversity. We take a deep dive into the essence of safety in eXtreme Programming (XP) and Agile, emphasizing its critical role in achieving optimized performance. Prepare for an insightful dissection of the status quo as we learn from the Hyatt housekeepers' innovative solutions to everyday problems.Thriving in any industry requires a keen understanding of its evolution.  Imagine a future where mental health, psychological safety, and lifestyle habits such as food, exercise, and sleep converge to create a conducive environment for change. This episode is designed to push the boundaries of your thinking and awaken your curiosity as we explore Agile beyond the traditional "echo chamber."To wrap things up, we cast a speculative look at Agile management's impact on CEOs and the future of businesses. Brace yourselves as we dive headfirst into the sea of artificial intelligence, assessing both the potential benefits and the risks involved. We envision what a multi-dimensional reimagination of management would look like and speculate on the implications of such a drastic change in business schools. With the aim to spark a revolution in your mind, we unravel the concept of an agile organization, from human factors to implementation, and consider the potential of 20% of firms to put the bottom 80% out of business. Are you ready to reimagine the future of agility and management with us? Let's get started!Steve Denning Joshua KerievskyMirko KleinerChet Hendrickson Jon Kern Flow Learning Lab Find us on X. @NoWayOutcast Substack: The Whirl of ReOrientation Want to develop your organization’s capacity for free and independent action (Organic Success)? Learn more and follow us at:https://www.aglx.com/https://www.youtube.com/@AGLXConsultinghttps://www.linkedin.com/company/aglx-consulting-llc/https://www.linkedin.com/in/briandriverahttps://www.linkedin.com/in/markjmcgrath1https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevemccroneStay in the Loop. Don't have time to listen to the podcast? Want to make some snowmobiles? Subscribe to our weekly newsletter to receive deeper insights on current and past episodes.Recent podcasts where you’ll also find Mark and Ponch: The No Bell Podcast Episode 24...

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