No Way Out

Send us a textChris Butler is a renowned product manager, writer, and speaker, with over 20 years of expertise in Agile methodologies, product management, and complex problem-solving. He has been a product leader at Google, Microsoft, Facebook, Cognizant, KAYAK, and Waze and has created techniques like Empathy Mapping for the Machine, Animistic Design Mapping, and Confusion Mapping to create cross-team alignment while building AI products. He is currently a Lead Product Manager at Google's Core Machine Learning team. Chris is an avid speaker and writer and regularly shares his knowledge and insights through talks, articles, and workshops.Chapters found in this episode:Product Managers as Decision Facilitators Why Alignment is Costly Product Strategy, Org Charts and Agile Product Playbooks? A Discourse on Product Management The Power of Narrative Provo-typing? The BS or Term Paper Economy Be sure to use the Chapters Feature on Apple and Spotify to quickly browse and navigate to segments of this episode.Chris Butler on LinkedInChris Butler on Medium Product School NWO Intro with Boyd March 25, 2025 Flow Learning Lab Find us on X. @NoWayOutcast Substack: The Whirl of ReOrientation Want to develop your organization’s capacity for free and independent action (Organic Success)? Learn more and follow us at:https://www.aglx.com/https://www.youtube.com/@AGLXConsultinghttps://www.linkedin.com/company/aglx-consulting-llc/https://www.linkedin.com/in/briandriverahttps://www.linkedin.com/in/markjmcgrath1https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevemccroneStay in the Loop. Don't have time to listen to the podcast? Want to make some snowmobiles? Subscribe to our weekly newsletter to receive deeper insights on current and past episodes.Recent podcasts where you’ll also find Mark and Ponch: The No Bell Podcast Episode 24...

Send us a textAdrian Bejan, PhD, is an American professor of mechanical engineering at Duke University, esteemed member of the European Academy, and recipient of the Benjamin Franklin Medal, the U.S. version of the Nobel Prize. Born in Romania and a former member of the Romanian National Basketball team, Adrian is known for developing the Constructal Law, which states that any flow system—from the flight of birds to the movement of air and water—will evolve over time so that it can more easily flow. He has published more than 30 books and 650 papers and was ranked in the top 0.01 % of the most cited and impactful scientists in the world ( top 10 in the world in engineering) in the citation impact database created by John Ioannidis of Stanford University. Adrian has also received numerous awards, including the Max Jacob Prize in 1999 and the Ruikov Medal in 2006, and has been awarded 18 honorary doctorates from universities in 11 countries. On this episode of No Way Out, Adrian will be discussing how the Constructal Law applies to basketball, the concept of systems and how they are defined, the evolution of design, and the concept of freedom and how it relates to flow.Chapters  in this episode: Basketball is Not Communism An Observer-Defined SystemThoughts on Entropy Freedom: Removing Obstacles That Impede Flow Arrogance, Fascism, and the Intellectual Elites The Constructal Law: OriginsThe Physics of Perception Why Time Moves Faster as We Age The Physics and Geometry of BeautyBe sure to use the Chapters Feature on Apple and Spotify to quickly browse and navigate to segments of this episode. Adrian Bejan LinkedinTime and Beauty The Physics of LifeNWO Intro with Boyd March 25, 2025 Flow Learning Lab Find us on X. @NoWayOutcast Substack: The Whirl of ReOrientation Want to develop your organization’s capacity for free and independent action (Organic Success)? Learn more and follow us at:https://www.aglx.com/https://www.youtube.com/@AGLXConsultinghttps://www.linkedin.com/company/aglx-consulting-llc/https://www.linkedin.com/in/briandriverahttps://www.linkedin.com/in/markjmcgrath1https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevemccroneStay in the Loop. Don't have time to listen to the podcast? Want to make some snowmobiles? Subscribe to our weekly newsletter to receive deeper insights on current and past episodes.Recent podcasts where you’ll also find Mark and Ponch: The No Bell Podcast Episode 24...

Send us a textFred Leland is a retired Lieutenant with the Walpole,  MA Police Department and a former United States Marine. He is an accomplished and accredited trainer with more than 30 years’ experience teaching Law Enforcement and Security. He is a graduate of the FBI National Academy, where he specialized in terrorism related topics, leadership and management. Fred is a student of the late modern day Strategist COL John Boyd and the Ancient Strategist Sun Tzu. He founded Law Enforcement and Security Consulting, Inc (LESC) in 2006 with the focus of bringing these principles to law enforcement and security.Be sure to use the Chapters Feature on Apple and Spotify to quickly browse and navigate to segments of this episode.Fred Leland on LinkedInAdaptive Leadership Handbook - Law Enforcement & Security Being YouAdopting Mission Command: Developing Leaders for a Superior Command CultureChet Richards on LinkedIn Don Vandergriff on LinkedInNWO Intro with Boyd March 25, 2025 Flow Learning Lab Find us on X. @NoWayOutcast Substack: The Whirl of ReOrientation Want to develop your organization’s capacity for free and independent action (Organic Success)? Learn more and follow us at:https://www.aglx.com/https://www.youtube.com/@AGLXConsultinghttps://www.linkedin.com/company/aglx-consulting-llc/https://www.linkedin.com/in/briandriverahttps://www.linkedin.com/in/markjmcgrath1https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevemccroneStay in the Loop. Don't have time to listen to the podcast? Want to make some snowmobiles? Subscribe to our weekly newsletter to receive deeper insights on current and past episodes.Recent podcasts where you’ll also find Mark and Ponch: The No Bell Podcast Episode 24...

Send us a textJim Rutt is a renowned innovator and creative mischief maker. He is known for his work as the first CTO of Thomson-Reuters, and for having served as the former CEO of Network Solutions. Following his successful sale of Network Solutions during the Dot Com Boom, Jim changed his focus to scientific research and has been affiliated with the Santa Fe Institute since 2002—a world-renowned think tank dedicated to research in the fields of complexity science, evolutionary and adaptive systems, and artificial intelligence. Jim is also the host of the popular The Jim Rutt Show podcast, where he interviews leading scientists, thinkers, and innovators to explore cutting edge ideas in science and technology, with a particular focus on the future of the economy, politics, and society.Be sure to use the Chapters Feature on Apple and Spotify to quickly browse and navigate to segments of this episode.Santa Fe InstituteThe Jim Rutt ShowJim Rutt on LinkedInAntifragile: Things that Gain from DisorderMisbehavior of Markets: A Fractal View of Financial Turbulence NWO Intro with Boyd March 25, 2025 Flow Learning Lab Find us on X. @NoWayOutcast Substack: The Whirl of ReOrientation Want to develop your organization’s capacity for free and independent action (Organic Success)? Learn more and follow us at:https://www.aglx.com/https://www.youtube.com/@AGLXConsultinghttps://www.linkedin.com/company/aglx-consulting-llc/https://www.linkedin.com/in/briandriverahttps://www.linkedin.com/in/markjmcgrath1https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevemccroneStay in the Loop. Don't have time to listen to the podcast? Want to make some snowmobiles? Subscribe to our weekly newsletter to receive deeper insights on current and past episodes.Recent podcasts where you’ll also find Mark and Ponch: The No Bell Podcast Episode 24...

Send us a textRetired U.S. Navy Captain  J.J. "Yank" Cummings is a decorated naval aviator, fighter pilot and former captain of the USS Gerald R. Ford, the U.S. Navy’s largest and most advanced aircraft carrier. With a M.S. in Education from Old Dominion University, a M.A. in National Security and Strategic Studies from the Naval War College and a Navy Nuclear Propulsion Program and TOPGUN graduate, J.J. has extensive experience in leading and managing thousands of men and women. He was a key influencer on Paramount Pictures' recent blockbuster and six-time Oscar-nominated movie, Top Gun: Maverick.Selected chapters found in this episode:Leading in Conditions of UncertaintyPrinciples: Setting the ToneBuilding Exceptional TeamsActions, Not Words: Show Them You CareNuclear Navy. Regular Navy. Fighter Aviation.Value (Kill) Chain Thinking: The Why Behind the What1MC Thinking: Communicating the Mission, Reducing UncertaintyYou Are Never Mission-lessGo to the Gemba…UnannouncedBuilding Credibility is HardLBWA Over LBBOOPlan-Brief-Execute-Debrief (PBED): Focus on the “D”The Recall Matters (What Happened)At a Profit, If We Can; At a Loss, If We Must…Systems Drive BehaviorsTop Gun: Maverick Started on “Yank’s” CouchLeadership Lessons from the Making of Top Gun: MaverickTeam Building Outside of WorkBlue Water AdvisorsHow to Connect with “Yank”   Be sure to use the Chapters Feature on Apple and Spotify to quickly browse and navigate to segments of this episode.J.J. "Yank" Cummings on LinkedIn "Navy pilot and Bates graduate helps take film franchise to new heights"Bob Hoover: An Aviation LegendNWO Intro with Boyd March 25, 2025 Flow Learning Lab Find us on X. @NoWayOutcast Substack: The Whirl of ReOrientation Want to develop your organization’s capacity for free and independent action (Organic Success)? Learn more and follow us at:https://www.aglx.com/https://www.youtube.com/@AGLXConsultinghttps://www.linkedin.com/company/aglx-consulting-llc/https://www.linkedin.com/in/briandriverahttps://www.linkedin.com/in/markjmcgrath1https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevemccroneStay in the Loop. Don't have time to listen to the podcast? Want to make some snowmobiles? Subscribe to our weekly newsletter to receive deeper insights on current and past episodes.Recent podcasts where you’ll also find Mark and Ponch: The No Bell Podcast Episode 24...

Send us a textAlistair Cockburn, PhD organized the historic meeting in Snowbird, Utah, in which he and 16 other people from around the world wrote the Agile Manifesto. His two industry-changing books, Writing Effective Use Cases and Agile Software Development: The Cooperative Game, have sold hundreds of thousands of copies. In addition to being a world-renowned expert on Agile, he is an authority in the field of software development, product management, project management and organizational development, and has authored four words of wisdom to help “rewild” Agile: Collaborate, Deliver, Reflect, Improve - known as the Heart of Agile.Chapters found in this episode:What’s Behind Alistair’s Agile OrientationConsulting as Micro-Touch TherapyAgile 2003: What Should Have BeenAgile and OODA IntentKeep It SimpleShu Ha RiDemo-Do-Teach: A Western Version of Shu Ha RiMann Gulch: Implicit Guidance and ControlCoaching Agile Mr. Miyagi: The Ultimate Kokoro Teacher The Importance of Play and Experiential Leaning Reward Systems Drive BehaviorsCollaborationThoughts on the OODA loopBe sure to use the Chapters Feature on Apple and Spotify to quickly browse and navigate to segments of this episode.Alistair Cockburn, PhD BioAlistair Cockburn, PhD Linkedin Heart of AgileManifesto for Agile Software Development NWO Intro with Boyd March 25, 2025 Flow Learning Lab Find us on X. @NoWayOutcast Substack: The Whirl of ReOrientation Want to develop your organization’s capacity for free and independent action (Organic Success)? Learn more and follow us at:https://www.aglx.com/https://www.youtube.com/@AGLXConsultinghttps://www.linkedin.com/company/aglx-consulting-llc/https://www.linkedin.com/in/briandriverahttps://www.linkedin.com/in/markjmcgrath1https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevemccroneStay in the Loop. Don't have time to listen to the podcast? Want to make some snowmobiles? Subscribe to our weekly newsletter to receive deeper insights on current and past episodes.Recent podcasts where you’ll also find Mark and Ponch: The No Bell Podcast Episode 24...

Send us a textInês Hipólito, PhD is a researcher in the interdisciplinary fields of philosophy of mind and complexity. Her research focuses on exploring the complex and reciprocal interactions between psychological behavior and the nervous system, body, and environment. She is a lecturer at the Berlin School of Mind and Brain at Humboldt-Universität zu Berlin. Inês is an Amsterdam Brain and Cognition Talent Grant Fellow at the University of Amsterdam, where she is studying the emergence of artificial intelligence as Augmented Cognition.Selected chapters found in this episode:From Turing Machines to Active InferenceBoundaries are set by the ObserverPerception: How We Sense the WorldPredictive Coding - Brains are Not Passive ProcessorsWhy Orientation is the Schwerpunkt According to NeuroscienceCristiano Ronaldo and Skillful PerformanceFlow: Emptiness of the Mind or Mushin is KeyFlow: Being Attuned with the External EnvironmentAdaptation: Niche Construction and The 2nd Law of ThermodynamicsMinimize Surprise: The Ultimate Goal Counterfactuals, COAs, and The Free Energy PrincipleStuck State: Unhealthy Patterns of ThinkingPsychedelics, Destruction and Creation, EgoOrganizational Change, Destruction and Creation, EgoThe Problem with Closed SystemsBe sure to use the Chapters Feature on Apple and Spotify to quickly browse and navigate to segments of this episode.Inês Hipólito, PhD Twitter: @ineshipolitoREBUSEntropic Brain Hypothesis The Free Energy PrincipleActive Inference: The Free Energy Principle in Mind, Brain, and Behavior NWO Intro with Boyd March 25, 2025 Flow Learning Lab Find us on X. @NoWayOutcast Substack: The Whirl of ReOrientation Want to develop your organization’s capacity for free and independent action (Organic Success)? Learn more and follow us at:https://www.aglx.com/https://www.youtube.com/@AGLXConsultinghttps://www.linkedin.com/company/aglx-consulting-llc/https://www.linkedin.com/in/briandriverahttps://www.linkedin.com/in/markjmcgrath1https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevemccroneStay in the Loop. Don't have time to listen to the podcast? Want to make some snowmobiles? Subscribe to our weekly newsletter to receive deeper insights on current and past episodes.Recent podcasts where you’ll also find Mark and Ponch: The No Bell Podcast Episode 24...

Send us a textMaj Gen Brook J. “Tank” Leonard, USAF is an experienced leader in the U.S. Air Force. He has extensive leadership experience with a wide range of organizations of various scales; in several complex and uncertain environments, including combat. He is currently the Deputy Commander and Director of Operations at Combined Joint Task Force - Space Operations, leading planning and operations for United States Space Command. He has flown numerous aircraft, including the F-16 and F-35, with over 3,000 flight hours, including 576 combat hours. Maj Gen Leonard is a graduate of the U.S. Air Force Academy, USAF Weapons School and has attained multiple masters degrees throughout his career.Chapters in this episode include:Iron Eagle vs. Top GunWhy Fighter AviationEnergy-Maneuverability (Agility) TheoryNavy TOPGUNs Take Boyd to SchoolDistributed Leadership, Weapons School (Top Gun)  StyleThe Art and Science of the Debrief (Feedback Loop)Leadership Lessons from Secretary Mattis Bounded Applicability: Effects-Based Operations (Value-Focused Thinking)New Domain, New Culture and the Power of Cognitive DiversityIOHAI: The Secret Behind Team OrientationRed Teaming: Challenging Assumptions and Improving Decision Facilitation Leading a Fearless Organization (Psychological Safety) F-16 vs. F-35? Merging CulturesThe Space Imperative Be sure to use the Chapters Feature on Apple and Spotify to quickly browse and navigate to segments of this episode.Maj Gen Brook J. Leonard Bio Maj Gen Brook J. Leonard LinkedIn U.S. Space Command NWO Intro with Boyd March 25, 2025 Flow Learning Lab Find us on X. @NoWayOutcast Substack: The Whirl of ReOrientation Want to develop your organization’s capacity for free and independent action (Organic Success)? Learn more and follow us at:https://www.aglx.com/https://www.youtube.com/@AGLXConsultinghttps://www.linkedin.com/company/aglx-consulting-llc/https://www.linkedin.com/in/briandriverahttps://www.linkedin.com/in/markjmcgrath1https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevemccroneStay in the Loop. Don't have time to listen to the podcast? Want to make some snowmobiles? Subscribe to our weekly newsletter to receive deeper insights on current and past episodes.Recent podcasts where you’ll also find Mark and Ponch: The No Bell Podcast Episode 24...

Send us a textMichael Strong is one of the most experienced designers of innovative school programs in the United States: He has more than twenty-eight years creating innovative K-12 programs and schools based on Montessori, Socratic, and entrepreneurial principles.   He is the author of The Habit of Thought: From Socratic Seminars to Socratic Practice and lead author of Be the Solution: How Entrepreneurs and Conscious Capitalists Can Solve All the World’s Problems.Chapters in this episode include:John Boyd and the Nature of Learning and Creativity Entrepreneurs Create Value Experiential Education and Adult LearningEducation as Scaling a CultureSocial Physics: Measuring Psychological Safety and Engagement Soft Skills: The Hard SkillsObservable Entrepreneurial BehaviorsExaptive Teaming Skills from High Risk EnvironmentsThe Most Boring and Cruel Years: Secondary SchoolThoughts on Improving the Education System Freedom of Speech: The Dangers of Shutting Down the Views of Others The Tarantino Rule for Shaping Orientation To Be or To Do: Mentorship and CoachingEntrepreneurial Solutions over Political Polarization Whole Foods and the Experience EconomyConscious Capitalism  Decentralize Decision-Making  Be sure to use the Chapters Feature to quickly browse and navigate to segments of this episode.The Socratic ExperienceConscious CapitalismMichael Strong on LinkedInNWO Intro with Boyd March 25, 2025 Flow Learning Lab Find us on X. @NoWayOutcast Substack: The Whirl of ReOrientation Want to develop your organization’s capacity for free and independent action (Organic Success)? Learn more and follow us at:https://www.aglx.com/https://www.youtube.com/@AGLXConsultinghttps://www.linkedin.com/company/aglx-consulting-llc/https://www.linkedin.com/in/briandriverahttps://www.linkedin.com/in/markjmcgrath1https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevemccroneStay in the Loop. Don't have time to listen to the podcast? Want to make some snowmobiles? Subscribe to our weekly newsletter to receive deeper insights on current and past episodes.Recent podcasts where you’ll also find Mark and Ponch: The No Bell Podcast Episode 24...

Send us a textDelia received her PhD from Adelaide Medical School and her present research focus is on the neurobiology of stress and lifestyle choices. Delia’s knowledge about the brain’s requirements for optimal well-being, her enthusiasm for sharing complex science in an easy-to-understand format, and her ability to share practical and actionable steps with her audience, make her a speaker that keeps her audience engaged and enthralled from start to finish.Chapters in this episode include:A Neuroscientist’s View of the OODA Loop and John BoydOur Environment Shapes the Brain and Our OODA LoopThis is Your Brain. This is Your Child’s Brain on Technology. Any Questions? False Perception of the Environment The Dangers of a  Synthetically Engineered Orientation Dopamine Our Brains & the Strategic Game of Interaction and IsolationMaking Sense of Stress and its Impact on Orientation The Mind-Body Stress OODA Loop The Impact of Stress on the Workplace Neurons That Fire Together, Wire Together Alcohol-Caffeine Cycle Some Context on Context Switching How to Change Your Organization's Default Mode of OperationDecision FatigueWhat Can Leaders Do?Making Work Visible Ego, Default Mode Network, Our Brain PTSD, Ego Suppression,  Psychedelic-Assisted Therapies.Why Do I Remember My First Girlfriend When I Smell Bubblegum? The Interplay of Genes, Culture, Environment and Previous ExperienceFlowHow to Connect with Delia McCabe, PhD   Be sure to use the Chapters Feature to quickly browse and navigate to segments of this episode.NWO Intro with Boyd March 25, 2025 Flow Learning Lab Find us on X. @NoWayOutcast Substack: The Whirl of ReOrientation Want to develop your organization’s capacity for free and independent action (Organic Success)? Learn more and follow us at:https://www.aglx.com/https://www.youtube.com/@AGLXConsultinghttps://www.linkedin.com/company/aglx-consulting-llc/https://www.linkedin.com/in/briandriverahttps://www.linkedin.com/in/markjmcgrath1https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevemccroneStay in the Loop. Don't have time to listen to the podcast? Want to make some snowmobiles? Subscribe to our weekly newsletter to receive deeper insights on current and past episodes.Recent podcasts where you’ll also find Mark and Ponch: The No Bell Podcast Episode 24...