

Hangar DX Podcast
Ankit Jain
The Hangar DX podcast focuses on developer experience and learning how different companies solve developer productivity challenges at scale. www.aviator.co/podcast
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Feb 12, 2025 • 36min
Python for organizations with Josh Cannon from Anthropic
Ankit speaks with Josh Cannon from Anthropic about the evolution and current state of Python, including its use in monorepos, the role of Pants, and challenges faced at scale.This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit podcast.aviator.co

Feb 5, 2025 • 36min
Productivity dilemma while scaling companies with Cathy Nunez from Confluent
In this episode of the Hangar DX Podcast, Ankit speaks with Cathy Nunez from Confluent about the challenges of developer productivity as organizations scale. Cathy shares her insights on the meaning of developer productivity, the importance of measuring it effectively, and the tools and processes that can enhance it.This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit podcast.aviator.co

Dec 20, 2024 • 35min
The Hidden Cost of Bazel with Alex Eagle from Aspect Build
In this episode of the Hangar DX Podcast, Ankit Jain and Alex Eagle discuss Bazel, a powerful build system that supports multiple programming languages. They explore the unique features of Bazel, when it’s appropriate to use, and how to get started with implementation. They also cover challenges of migrating to Bazel, quantifying its value, and maintaining a healthy build system. Alex shares insights on improving modularity, managing dependencies, and the importance of standardization in enhancing developer experience.This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit podcast.aviator.co

Dec 4, 2024 • 37min
Scaling CI/CD for Monorepos with Ben Poland from Faire
In this episode, Ankit Jain interviews Ben Poland, a staff platform engineer at Faire, to discuss the intricacies of managing monorepos and enhancing developer experience. Ben explores the rationale behind adopting monorepos, the challenges faced, and the solutions implemented, particularly focusing on CI/CD processes using Kubernetes and Gradle. He also shares insights on dependency management, metrics for monitoring developer productivity, and the future of developer experience in software engineering.This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit podcast.aviator.co

Nov 15, 2024 • 42min
Continuous Delivery with Bryan Finster from Defense Unicorns
In this episode of the Hangar DX podcast, Ankit Jain interviews Bryan Finster, a seasoned expert in developer experience and continuous delivery to discuss the evolution of software engineering practices, the importance of continuous delivery, and principles behind achieving it. Bryan shares insights on the differences between continuous delivery and deployment, the significance of testing, and the role of AI in modern software development.This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit podcast.aviator.co

Oct 25, 2024 • 42min
The Case Against Standardization with Jonathan Magen from Cigna
In this episode of the Hangar DX podcast, Ankit Jain and Jonathan Magen delve into the complexities of standardization in developer experience. They explore the balance between standardization and innovation, discussing how too much standardization can stifle creativity while also recognizing the need for some level of consistency.This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit podcast.aviator.co

Oct 10, 2024 • 38min
Case against metrics with Chris Westerhold
In this conversation, Chris, a senior director of engineering effectiveness at HTEC, discusses the importance of developer experience and its impact on productivity. He emphasizes the need for organizations to understand the nuances of developer experience, the role of metrics, and the potential pitfalls of misusing them. Chris shares insights on how to effectively measure developer productivity, the importance of qualitative data, and the need for empathy in addressing developer challenges. He also highlights the significance of balancing metrics to avoid gaming behaviors and drive meaningful improvements in developer experience.This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit podcast.aviator.co

Sep 19, 2024 • 38min
Design Systems with Netlify
In this conversation, Ankit Jain speaks with Kaelig about the intricacies of developer experience (DevEx) and design systems, comparing the dynamics in large organizations like Shopify to smaller ones like Netlify. They explore the definition and ownership of design systems, the importance of measuring maturity, and the common pitfalls teams face when building these systems. Kaelig shares insights on how to convince leadership of the value of design systems and discusses the future of developer experience, particularly with the rise of AI tools.This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit podcast.aviator.co

Sep 5, 2024 • 43min
Understanding IDPs with Segment
In this episode, Ankit Jain and Jesse Adametz discuss developer platforms (DevEx) and internal developer portals (IDPs). They explore the distinction between portals and platforms, with portals being a UI on top of a spreadsheet-like catalog of services and platforms being more tied into the infrastructure. They also discuss the importance of standardization in IDPs and the challenges of maintaining up-to-date information. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit podcast.aviator.co

Aug 8, 2024 • 41min
Impact of DevEx on Business Outcomes
SummaryIn this conversation, Vilas shares his insights on how different companies handle DevEx and the challenges they face. He emphasizes the importance of measuring the impact of DevEx from the customer's perspective and tying it to business outcomes. Vilas also discusses the role of platform engineering and the need for clear ownership and responsibilities. He suggests conducting exercises to identify and prioritize pain points in the developer experience and using customer metrics to drive investment in DevEx. Vilas highlights the significance of having practitioners in DevEx teams and the value of tools like ARGO and Maven.This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit podcast.aviator.co


