
The TreppWire Podcast: A Commercial Real Estate Show
Leveraging Trepp’s market expertise and proprietary data sets, The TreppWire Podcast enables listeners to stay up-to-date on all things commercial real estate, structured finance and banking.
Featuring Trepp subject matter experts and guests from across the industry, the weekly podcast explores how recent events have impacted both the markets and the daily lives of market participants.
Questions or comments? Please contact us at podcast@trepp.com.
Latest episodes

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Jan 28, 2025 • 45min
304. Housing Market Reality Check with MacroEdge: Inventory, Affordability & Demographics
In this discussion, Melody Wright, Owner of Haringa and mortgage strategy expert, shares her insights on the housing market. She examines the disconnect between the narrative of housing shortages and actual market conditions, highlighting rising inventory and affordability challenges. The conversation tackles the barriers to homeownership, including high mortgage rates and the lack of affordable housing options. Wright also explores demographic shifts, consumer preferences, and the complexities of new home construction in today’s economy.

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Jan 24, 2025 • 46min
303. Ink Meets Impact: Executive Orders, Fannie Freddie Privatization, Multifamily Data & Major Transactions
Recent headlines dive into the impacts of executive orders on federal workers and housing affordability. The potential privatization of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac raises questions about CMBS issuance. Multifamily sector trends reveal crucial data on loan maturities and delinquency rates. Noteworthy transactions include Bloomingdale’s closing its San Francisco flagship and Blackstone's purchase of the Kimpton Hotel in New York. The podcast also discusses market pressures on key properties and the changing dynamics in commercial real estate.

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Jan 17, 2025 • 53min
302. Taxes, Transactions, 2025 Themes: Wildfire Tax Relief, Sales Transactions, & CREFC Takeaways
Dive into the key takeaways from the recent CRE Finance Council conference, highlighting economic shifts and job report surprises. Explore how California’s wildfire tax challenges are impacting real estate. Get the scoop on big bank earnings and what they mean for the market. Discover intriguing trends in self-storage and lodging loans facing refinancing hurdles. Lastly, check out significant property transactions across various sectors, revealing the dynamic landscape of commercial real estate.

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Jan 14, 2025 • 55min
301. Your 2025 REIT Playbook with David Auerbach, Hoya Capital
David Auerbach, Chief Investment Officer at Hoya Capital and a veteran of the REIT industry, shares insights on navigating the current and future landscape of Real Estate Investment Trusts. He emphasizes the importance of long-term strategies and dividend growth, exploring current trends like single-family rentals and the evolution of retail spaces. Auerbach also discusses how healthcare REITs adapt to demographic changes and the critical need for diversification in investment portfolios as we approach 2025.

Jan 10, 2025 • 52min
300. Celebrating A Milestone: Office Origination Deep Dive, Potential Fallout of CA Wildfires, and Mega Dollar Deals
Happy 300th episode of The TreppWire Podcast! In this week’s milestone episode, we are here to share the data behind the headlines. We first reflect on the wildfires in California and the potential impact on real estate, insurance costs, and the market at large. We ‘dig through the data’ into office originations to provide transparency into the performance of the sector. We also provide insight into stories across office, lodging, and multifamily – including a juicy $500k/unit apartment property transaction. Stick around to hear how to enter our podcast giveaway. Tune in now.
This episode is sponsored by EisnerAmper.
Episode Notes:
- Episode 300 Milestone (0:27)
- Economic update (2:53)
- California Wildfires and Prop 13 (3:52)
- Office loan originations (10:59)
- Office stories: value reduction in NYC and sales transactions in Dallas and Chicago (21:51)
- Multifamily: juicy transaction in Virginia, for $500k/unit, and another acquisition in Florida
(30:57)
- Lodging: special servicing transfer in Florida and a sales transaction in Virginia (37:56)
- Programing notes & triple giveaway (44:49)
- Shoutouts (45:58)
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Jan 3, 2025 • 59min
299. CRE Market Context: 2025 Predictions, Delinquency Perspectives, Credit Events, & Opportunities Ahead
Explore the current landscape of commercial real estate and the alarming rise in delinquency rates, particularly in the office sector. Predict future trends for CMBS issuance and how economic factors will shape 2025. Discover emerging opportunities in cities like San Francisco and Houston, influenced by migration and growth. Delve into urgent infrastructure challenges regarding power and water for developers. The hosts also tease their upcoming 300th milestone with fresh guest insights and engagement opportunities.

Dec 27, 2024 • 50min
298. Putting a Bow on 2024: CRE Headlines & Data Behind the Narratives
We hope all our listeners are having a joyous holiday season and thank you all for tuning in each week. In this week's episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we take stock of the major commercial real estate (CRE) headlines of 2024 and make sense of it all with Trepp’s data. We provide our insights into both the positive and negative stories we’ve seen this year, including the maturity wall narrative, the bank sector rebound, insurance costs, and major retail bankruptcies. Diving into the data, we look at the 2024 maturity schedule, debt yield numbers, CMBS loans originated, and provide our predictions on future delinquency rates. We wrap up the episode with CRE optimism for 2025. Tune in now.
Episode Notes:
Maturity Wall (0:51)
Insurance Costs (4:55)
Retail Bankruptcies (6:45)
2024 Maturity Schedule (12:29)
Underwritten Debt Yield (14:49)
Delinquency Predictions (16:11)
Weighted Average Debt Yield for Urban Office Maturities
(23:22)
Banking & Lending Snapshot (30:04)
CRE Optimism for Next Year (33:39)
Preliminary December Delinquency Rate Estimates (38:00)
Programming Notes (42:10)
Shoutouts (45:02)
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Dec 20, 2024 • 56min
297. Resiliency in 2024, Fed's Holiday Surprise, Portfolio Loans in the Special Servicing Stocking, & 2024 Wrap Up
Explore the intriguing economic landscape of 2024, where resiliency and uncertainty dance together. Discover mixed signals from recent economic data and what they mean for investors. The podcast also dives into distressed office properties and the fate of major portfolio loans entering special servicing. Hear about Party City's potential second bankruptcy and the significant dynamics in multifamily and retail markets. It's a rollercoaster of insights, trends, and lighthearted holiday cheer that you won’t want to miss!

Dec 17, 2024 • 28min
296. Getting Eyeballs & Closing Deals: SERHANT Commercial Gives Their Perspective
In this special guest episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we are joined by Bernadette Brennan, Managing Director, and Owen Toland, Real Estate Salesperson at SERHANT. Known for its presence on the Netflix show, "Owning Manhattan," SERHANT is a full-service real estate agency, and Bernadette and Owen are here to discuss the commercial side of the business. We dive into the shift in the real estate landscape post-pandemic, discussing the rise of owner-user purchases, the contrast between Class A and B offices, and the retail leasing market. We also hear stories of high-profile clients and unusual deals that would make great reality TV. Tune in now.
Episode Notes:
- Bernadette's Journey from Music to Real Estate (01:41)
- Owen's Path to Commercial Real Estate (03:35)
- Current State of New York City Real Estate (05:00)
- Retail Leasing Insights and Market Trends (10:58)
- Building the Commercial Division at SERHANT (15:32)
- Unique Client Stories and High-Profile Deals (19:11)
- Conclusion and Final Thoughts (27:46)
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Dec 13, 2024 • 52min
295. City of Yes, Merger of Kroger & Albertsons No, Macy's Real Estate Portfolio, & Notable Property Stories
In this week's episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we discuss the latest CPI reading, expected Fed interest rate cut, nonfarm payrolls, and the City of Yes zoning reform plan
that was approved by the New York City Council this week. In commercial real estate news, we examine the latest talks of spinning off Macy’s real estate portfolio and the Kroger and Albertsons merger that turned into a lawsuit.
We also examine several office stories, including a residential conversion, large lease renewal and acquisitions and appraisal value reductions. In multifamily we talk about a
student-housing acquisition and a few special servicing transfers and value reductions. Tune in now.
Episode Notes:
- Economic Update: latest CPI reading, expected Fed rate
cut, Macy’s real estate portfolio, Kroger-Albertson’s merger turned lawsuit, nonfarm
payrolls (00:23)
- Wall Street firms, AvalonBay Communities, a
multifamily REIT, buying or developing single-family homes (13:19)
- City of Yes Zoning Reform Plan Approved by City Council
(19:29)
- Office stories: residential conversion, acquisitions,
lease renewal and appraisal value reductions (26:44)
- Multifamily: student-housing acquisition & special
servicing transfers (38:32)
- Lodging: value reduction of a Portland hotel (44:13)
- Programming Notes (46:36)
- Shoutouts (48:36)
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