

The TreppWire Podcast: A Commercial Real Estate Show
The TreppWire Podcast, A CRE Show
Leveraging Trepp’s market expertise and proprietary data sets, The TreppWire Podcast enables listeners to stay up-to-date on all things commercial real estate, structured finance and banking.
Featuring Trepp subject matter experts and guests from across the industry, the weekly podcast explores how recent events have impacted both the markets and the daily lives of market participants.
Questions or comments? Please contact us at podcast@trepp.com.
Featuring Trepp subject matter experts and guests from across the industry, the weekly podcast explores how recent events have impacted both the markets and the daily lives of market participants.
Questions or comments? Please contact us at podcast@trepp.com.
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Sep 20, 2023 • 47min
216. Behind 280 Characters: StripMallGuy Opens Up on Anonymity, Tenants, & Chick-fil-A with Trepp
In a special guest episode, we welcome Twitter CRE sensation, StripMallGuy. After a successful career as a value-add retail buyer, StripMallGuy added the title of influencer to the resume. Here, we discuss the ins and outs of strip malls, how to balance social media and the day job, breaking into the industry, and more. Tune in now.
The episode is sponsored by The Henley Group: https://www.thehenleygroup.com/
Episode Notes
- Behind StripMallGuy (0:23)
- Why strip malls? (5:05)
- Adjusting to tighter credit conditions and a resilient consumer (6:15)
- Balancing social media and the job (8:50)
- Position as a value-add buyer (13:26)
- "We don't 1031, we don't cost seg, we don't finance on the front-end of the deal..." (16:51)
- The no-nos: Chick-fil-A, dry cleaners, & karate (21:07)
- Mom & pop vs. national tenants (23:59)
- Rookie mistakes (28:13)
- Negotiating: LOI vs. signed contracts (32:09)
- StripMallGuy's 'Black Swan' Event (36:07)
- Converting mom and pop to triple net lease structure (38:54)
- What would StripMallGuy be doing if not in CRE? (41:56)
- Best thing about NYC (42:25)
- HOAs (43:38)
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Sep 15, 2023 • 49min
215. Downsizings Haunt Office CRE: Microsoft, Shell, KPMG Bring Painful Reminders (& Trading Alerts)
In this week's episode, we break down the latest economic data and share several large commercial real estate stories. Starting with the news of more companies downsizing their office space, and closing with multifamily comps, we'll dive into the stories we've been tracking (some for many years). We also discuss note sales vs. loan extensions. Tune in now.
Episode Notes:
• Economic update: inflation, gas prices (0:23)
• Office news to know (10:28)
• Note sales or extensions? (19:59)
• Hotel headlines (34:50)
• Multifamily comps (40:33)
• Shoutouts (43:05)
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Sep 7, 2023 • 51min
214. September Swoon: Healthy Market Pause or More? FDIC Loan Sale; Pigs Fly: CA Office Green Shoots
Is there a soft- or crash-landing looming? In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we discuss a healthy pause in the markets, and debate whether something darker is lurking. Rising unemployment numbers and depleted household savings don’t deter the commercial real estate green shoots, and we even see positive signs for the California office market. We also break down the FDIC sale of Signature Bank’s loans, and share multifamily, retail, hotel, and industrial news. Tune in now.
Episode Notes:
Economic update: stocks, jobs (0:23)
FDIC loan sale (9:45)
Positive office stories (13:57)
Other happenings in office (20:45)
Apartment sale and multifamily stories(28:45)
Retail news (35:18)
Hotel sale (38:37)
Industrial story (42:02)
Shoutouts (44:53)
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Aug 31, 2023 • 48min
213. CRE Rundown: Transactions, Office Value Reductions, Puerto Rican Loan Pay Off, Delinquency Data
This podcast episode discusses an economic update, the potential bankruptcy of Rite Aid and its impact on loans, the latest CMBS delinquency report, apartment complex sales in different locations, the sale of a stake in the Bellagio Hotel and Casino, and a Nashville office deal. The hosts also mention upcoming research on student housing and share personal anecdotes.

Aug 29, 2023 • 55min
212. Get the 'Knak' with CRE Legend Bob Knakal: Data-Driven Update, Retail Green Shoots, Policy
In this special guest episode of The TreppWire Podcast, Bob Knakal, Head of NY Private Capital Group at JLL, and legendary NYC CRE sales broker, joins the team to give a data-driven state of the market. We talk about data that moves the market, liquidity in the current environment, transaction volume stats, retail green shoots, public policy, Seinfeld, and much more. Tune in now.
Episode Notes:
- Knakal by the numbers (2:49)
- Liquidity in the current environment (4:37)
- What impacts transaction volume? (8:09)
- Comparison of past crises; when does risk come back on? (12:25)
- How do you serve the market with data? (16:35)
- Complexity of NYC data (19:15)
- How's the market? (23:42)
- Data that moves the market (28:06)
- How does your day differ today from 20 years ago?(37:10)
- The Map Room (40:05)
- NYC public policy (46:15)
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Aug 25, 2023 • 50min
211. Multifamily Comps Galore; Retail Earnings Concerns; Interest Rates Level Off Ahead of Fed Talk
Economic update, retail stories, multifamily news, office headlines, industrial green shoot, bank downgrade assessment, and shoutouts are covered in this episode of a commercial real estate show. Topics include retail earnings concerns, multifamily comps, apartment loans heading to special servicing, and office valuation reductions.

Aug 17, 2023 • 47min
210. Late Summer Blues: Can Rising Treasury Yields Stall the CRE Markets?
Retailers and banks were the focus this week as retail sales and earnings dominated the news and talks of higher capital requirements for banks took a bite out of bank shares. In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we back the latest macroeconomic news into commercial real estate and discuss if we think CRE is on an island of its own. We dive into a mix of office stories, multifamily news, retail headlines, and new loan originations Tune in now.
Episode Notes:
• Economic update (0:23)
• Backing the macro into CRE: CRE is an island (9:41)
• Office stories across the board (15:16)
• Multifamily news (31:14)
• Retail stories (35:31)
• Recent loan originations (36:40)
• Office comps (40:31)
• Shoutouts (42:07)
Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com.
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Aug 11, 2023 • 55min
209. Soft Landing Doesn’t Mean No Turbulence; WeWork Exposure; Where to Hide in CMBS
This week, economic data suggested the Fed might actually pull off a soft landing, but that won’t come without some turbulence. In this episode, we talk about the WeWork news and the firm’s CRE exposure, where investors can hide amid growing market distress, and the latest macroeconomic data. We also break down a potpourri of office stories, and some news for healthcare and industrial properties. Tune in now.
Episode Notes:
• Economic update (0:23)
• Small balance delinquencies (9:41)
• WeWork news and CRE exposure (15:27)
• Office stories (22:26)
• Retail store closings (39:50)
• Healthcare story (41:50)
• Industrial deal (46:57)
• Shoutouts (49:13)
Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com.
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Aug 2, 2023 • 43min
208. Ringing in August with CRE Green Shoots; What Can Go Wrong?
In this week’s episode, we ‘ring’ in a new month with some green shoots for the commercial real estate market. The team explains why they are either buyers or sellers given the latest data. We run through the latest CMBS delinquency readings, retail news, office headlines, and more on multifamily expense data. Tune in now.
Episode Notes:
• Positive news, what can go wrong?(0:23)
• CMBS delinquencies (12:39)
• Retail news to know(15:36)
• Office crabgrass (22:18
• Office green shoots (26:03)
• More on multifamily expenses (34:16)
• Shoutouts (35:46)
• Buyers or sellers in the market (38:30)
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Jul 28, 2023 • 52min
207. Frisky Business: Solid Economic Data, Stocks Surging, CRE Sales. Are we Back?
There was a lot to like about the latest earnings numbers, economic data, and stock movement, but what does it all mean for CRE? In this week’s episode, we break down the ‘friskiness’ in the market following some positive signs. In CRE, we talk about a positive self-storage story, a mix of green shoots and crab grass for office, and retail news to note. Tune in now.
This episode is sponsored by BetterPitch: www.betterpitch.com.
Episode Notes:
• Positive economic news (0:23)
• What does it mean for CRE? (10:42)
• Self-storage company sold (15:48)
• Office crabgrass (19:21)
• Subleases (23:55)
• Office green shoots (28:17)
• Retail mixed bag (35:52)
• Bank CRE loan performance (43:09)
• Shoutouts (43:59)
Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com.
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