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Apr 4, 2025 • 5min

Niching Down | 3 April Newsletter Companion

Welcome to a weekly check-in where I (Steph Crugnola) take the tips we drop in the Refine Labs weekly newsletter and apply it for our own brand marketing team - stacking them up for our continued evolution and growth.  This week is all about about niching down and clarifying landing pages, inspired by the Called to Action conversation with Tas Bober. Join me as I work to niche down my LinkedIn content and clarify our podcast 'about' section.
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Apr 1, 2025 • 56min

How to Tame Your Landing Page (And Your Career) | Tas Bober

Tas Bober, Co-Founder of The Scroll Lab, joins Evan Hughes and Steph Crugnola for a discussion focused on finding your niche in your career and on your landing page.  Tas starts by talking through her evolution from an aspiring writer to a digital marketing expert, propelled by her early career experiences. Stressing the influence of pivotal mentors and their often brutally honest advice, she walks through the process of finding a specific niche in landing page consultation. Tas candidly shares her insights on staying adaptable, networking's intrinsic value in marketing, and the importance of having a distinct perspective to stand out in a saturated market. Ultimately, her story is a testament to chasing authenticity and passion, serving as motivation for marketers to embrace change and innovation.Episode topics: #marketing, #leadgen, #demandgeneration, #sales, #B2BSaaS, #digitalmarketing #demandcreation #landingpages #writing #ads #niche______Subscribe to Stacking Growth on Spotify and YouTubeLearn More About Refine LabsSign Up For Our NewsletterConnect with the guest:Tas BoberConnect with the hosts:Evan HughesSteph Crugnola
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Mar 28, 2025 • 5min

Why Do You Listen to Marketing Podcasts? | 27 March Newsletter Companion

Welcome to a new weekly check-in where I (Steph Crugnola) take the tips we drop in the Refine Labs weekly newsletter and apply it for our own brand marketing team - stacking them up for our continued evolution and growth.  This week is all about ABM! Inspired by the recent B2B Marketing Roundtable, we sent out and are testing a template to narrow down ABM audience tiers, trying to solve for this audience's pain points, and focusing our podcast messaging.
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Mar 25, 2025 • 52min

ABM: How to Get it Right | March B2B Roundtable

In this insightful discussion, Judy Sheriff, an experienced client-side marketer, along with ABM strategist Ciara Hopkins and marketing operations expert Scott Schilling, explore the essentials of Account-Based Marketing. They emphasize the importance of aligning marketing and sales efforts and understanding your Ideal Customer Profile. The trio shares tips on leveraging existing CRM tools, measuring success through engagement metrics, and ensuring clear communication across teams. Their key takeaway? Without foundational alignment, ABM initiatives are destined to fail.
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Mar 21, 2025 • 4min

A New Experiment | Newsletter Companion 19 March 2025

Welcome to a new weekly check-in where I (Steph Crugnola) take the tips we drop in the Refine Labs weekly newsletter and apply it for our own brand marketing team - stacking them up for our continued evolution and growth.  This week is all about experimentation, based on this week's episode of Called to Action featuring Canberk Beker.
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Mar 18, 2025 • 28min

How to Prioritize Consistent Experimentation | Canberk Beker

Canberk Beker, founder of ROASted, joins Evan Hughes and Steph Crugnola for a discussion focused on the importance of consistent and ambitious experimentation.  Canberk describes his shift from traditional B2C marketing to embracing experimental strategies, emphasizing the significance of pushing boundaries to foster growth.He shares is personal experiences and challenges in advocating for experimentation, especially within the constraints of B2B environments that often prioritize direct metrics like cost per lead over innovative tactics. Highlighted by the stark comparison between B2C and B2B methodologies, this episode delves deep into how his bold moves and risk-taking have led to groundbreaking strategies, such as successfully tapping into competitive keyword spaces and leveraging user-generated insights. As he recounts his various experiments, both successful and unsuccessful, Canberk stresses the critical role of data-and intuition-driven decisions, ultimately inspiring marketers to push past traditional limits to achieve significant breakthroughs in their campaigns.Episode topics: #marketing, #leadgen, #demandgeneration, #sales, #B2BSaaS, #digitalmarketing #demandcreation #adcreative #creativity #ads #experimentation______Subscribe to Stacking Growth on Spotify and YouTubeLearn More About Refine LabsSign Up For Our NewsletterConnect with the guest:Canberk BekerConnect with the hosts:Evan HughesSteph Crugnola
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Mar 11, 2025 • 38min

Why You Should Appeal to Humanity In Ad Creative | Libby Schell

Libby Schell, Refine Labs Demand Generation Manager, joins Evan Hughes and Steph Crugnola for a discussion about leading with empathy and humanity in ad creative.  Libby shares her unique path from a strategic communications graduate to a demand generation expert in the B2B SaaS domain. She focuses on how she has worked to balance creativity with marketing strategies to craft compelling ad content that resonates with audiences beyond cliche business jargon.She spotlights the importance of empathy and human-centric creativity in B2B marketing, examining how her artistic insights fuel her advertising and messaging tactics. To cap it off looking forward, Libby discusses some of the nuanced difference between AI and human creativity as we head into the future of marketing within the digital landscape. Episode topics: #marketing, #leadgen, #demandgeneration, #sales, #B2BSaaS, #digitalmarketing #demandcreation #adcreative #creativity #ads #empathy______Subscribe to Stacking Growth on Spotify and YouTubeLearn More About Refine LabsSign Up For Our NewsletterConnect with the guest:Libby SchellConnect with the hosts:Evan HughesSteph Crugnola
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Mar 4, 2025 • 50min

Building an Organic Content & Thought Leadership Strategy | B2B Round Table

Ashley Lewin, a marketing expert with a keen focus on content strategy, joins hosts Megan Bowen and Evan Hughes for a roundtable discussion. They delve into the importance of crafting a unique point of view to captivate audiences. Emphasizing authenticity, they explain how relatable content resonates more than overly polished posts. The conversation also touches on leveraging various content formats and the role of consistency in building trust. Tips for utilizing LinkedIn effectively and enhancing strategic narratives round out this insightful session.
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Feb 25, 2025 • 41min

How to Implement a Demand Creation Strategy | Sam Kuehnle

Sam Kuehnle, VP of Marketing at Loxo, joins Evan Hughes and Steph Crugnola for a discussion about taking on a leadership role in Demand Creation and how to make an impact.  The discussion focuses on evolving demand generation strategies, the interplay between lead generation and demand creation, and how Sam transitioned from agency work at Refine Labs to a leadership position. Throughout, Sam offers insights into planning effective marketing strategies in a rapidly changing digital landscape.The conversation begins by exploring Sam's marketing journey, from his foundational experiences in a family-run agency to working as an account development representative in SaaS, highlighting his shift from the predictable revenue model to a demand-focused approach inspired by Chris Walker. Sam also shares invaluable advice on stakeholder management, emphasizing the necessity of aligning marketing strategies with overarching business goals. He discusses methodologies for generating quick wins, such as optimizing Google Ads and refining audience targeting, providing practical insights into sustainable marketing practices. The episode concludes with forward-thinking strategies and preparing for the future of marketing, stressing the importance of adaptability and continuous learning.Episode topics: #marketing, #leadgen, #demandgeneration, #sales, #B2BSaaS, #digitalmarketing #demandcreation ______Subscribe to Stacking Growth on Spotify and YouTubeLearn More About Refine LabsSign Up For Our NewsletterConnect with the guest:Sam KuehnleConnect with the hosts:Evan HughesSteph Crugnola
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Feb 18, 2025 • 38min

Why Leads Are Not All Created Equal | Ciara Hopkins

Ciara Hopkins, VP of Demand Generation  at Refine Labs, joins Evan Hughes and Steph Crugnola for a discussion about leads: leads are not all created equal, and Ciara talks through why, and how to address it.  Ciara starts by talking through her journey, starting as an SDR constantly questioning the ‘why’ behind instant calls and emails to new leads. She highlights the transformation she witnessed and became part of in marketing, moving from traditional lead gen to a demand gen approach.  As a marketer, Ciara emphasizes the crucial role of UTM tracking and high versus low intent categorization in driving marketing efficiency. She highlights the importance of understanding the entire customer journey by collaborating with sales and operational teams to enhance data integrity. She also breaks down the industry's shift toward recognizing the value of brand awareness efforts and the necessity of meaningful KPI development to measure these initiatives effectively. Episode topics: #marketing, #leadgen, #demandgeneration, #sales, #B2BSaaS, #digitalmarketing #CRM  ______ Subscribe to Stacking Growth on Spotify and YouTube Learn More About Refine Labs Sign Up For Our NewsletterConnect with the guest: Ciara Hopkins Connect with the hosts: Evan Hughes Steph Crugnola

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