Finding Brave

Are your thoughts and actions regularly dictated by a harsh inner critic? Do you find yourself filled with feelings of unworthiness and that you are undeserving of love? If so, you may well be dealing with the symptoms of core shame. Our guest, David Jurasek, knows firsthand the devastating impact shame can have on your life and relationships, and he joins us today to shed light on this urgent topic. Drawing on his 25 years of experience as a mentor and therapist, David’s work is defined by his belief that your biggest source of sabotage is driven by core shame. He is the founder of Powerful and Loving, a community helping men and boys become powerful leaders who cultivate thriving relationships. Additionally, he is the author of My Heart Is A Muscle, a book that he wrote with the hopes of moving 500 men in the deepest way possible. In today’s conversation, we unpack the concept of core shame, where it tends to stem from, the devastating impact it can have on our lives, and how we can begin to release and heal from it. David opens up about the role that shame played in his life and explains why identifying its root cause is so important. We explore how our shame-based society prevents us from looking inward and the power of healthy relationships and community in helping us heal from shame. Our conversation also investigates the role of shame in our relationships and how we can break patterns of blame and criticism, before exploring how to go about dethroning your inner critic, followed by simple and effective techniques to help you process and let go of shame. Today’s episode is filled with profound insights and will give you a newfound understanding of the complexities of shame and its impact. We hope you’ll join us for a thought-provoking and empowering conversation on healing from shame and the power of love and community.   Key Highlights From This Episode: Unpacking the concept of core shame, the impact of seeing yourself as unworthy or unlovable, and how this influences our lives and behavior. [06:40] Why it’s so important to understand where your shame comes from and what it’s attached to. [12:10] David’s vulnerable account of how shame impacted him, and how the kindness of a friend, who had confronted his own core shame, altered David’s life. [21:23] The symptoms of shame, why most people don’t realize they are carrying core shame, and why a shame-based society doesn’t want us to look internally. [26:13] How patriarchal, racist, and capitalist systems have created a shame-based society, and what David has learned from studying healthy communities. [30:17] Understanding how shame can show up in relationships; how we project our shame onto loved ones; and what it looks like to unlearn shame and your unique conditioning. [33:40] Dethroning your inner critic and how this shifts your perspective; the physiological effects of releasing shame; effective and accessible techniques for letting go of shame. [39:37] The nuances of shame and how interrogating it can teach us powerful lessons about our natural gifts. [49:40] Find out where you can learn more about David’s work and get in touch. [55:47]   For More Information: David Jurasek on LinkedIn David Jurasek on Instagram Powerful and LovingCritical Love   Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Check out David’s book My Heart Is A Muscle   ——————— Ready for a true Career Breakthrough? Are you ready for a BIG positive shift in how you’re working and what you’re capable of achieving today in your career and leadership? Let’s work together and make that happen! While you might know me best as a podcast host and writer, a key focus in my work is career and leadership coaching and consulting for mid to high-level professionals around the globe. In my top-rated Career & Leadership Breakthrough coaching programs, I help people address root causes of their core challenges today, and move through those challenges to create what they want most, which includes more confidence, impact, recognition, advancement, financial reward, well-being, and fulfillment. I also help them close their existing power and confidence gaps and embrace their most exciting visions for the future, along with experiencing greater self-worth (sometimes for the very first time in their lives) so they can move forward to greater joy, reward and fulfillment In the past 18 years, I’ve worked with over 30,000 professionals across 6 continents. Before that, I served as a therapist, and prior to that, I was a corporate VP managing multi-million-dollar budgets and global initiatives. I leverage all of that experience to help professionals build an exciting new chapter of work to reach their highest and happiest potential in careers they love. For organizations looking for top-level career and leadership coaches to support the emerging and seasoned leaders in your workforce to expand their confidence and make a more positive impact, please feel free to contact me here. Check out my private coaching programs >> Kathy’s Career & Leadership Growth Help. I hope you’ll register now. I’d love to support you!   ——————— Need some great podcast production support?   Check out We Edit Podcasts! Hi, folks! Kathy here. So, are you thinking of launching a new podcast or have you been at it a while and recognize it’s time for more or better production help to create the best podcast you can? 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Modern life bombards us with stresses our bodies are not physically equipped (or evolved) to handle. It’s no wonder so many of us are overwhelmed and struggling. Luckily, there are effective strategies and tools to help manage and reduce stress. You just need to learn how to tap into them. Here today to help us better navigate life’s stressors is Dr. Robyne Hanley-Dafoe, an internationally acclaimed speaker and resiliency expert. With over 18 years of experience in education and psychology, Dr. Robyne is renowned for her transformative approach to stress management and personal wellness. She is also the award-winning author of Calm Within the Storm: A Pathway to Everyday Resiliency and her latest book, Stress Wisely: How to Be Well in an Unwell World. In today’s conversation, you’ll hear Robyne share her expert insights as we delve into practical methods for building resilience and finding balance amidst the chaos. We discuss the five pillars of resilience, from belonging and acceptance to hope and humor, before unpacking the pivotal role of each in maintaining our well-being. Robyne also shares her powerful thoughts on self-compassion, why you can’t shame yourself into doing better, and how our historical ability to adapt continuously inspires her to feel hope for the future. Tune in to discover how to break free from the stress cycle, build periods of rest into your routine, and harness emotional intelligence to create a healthier, happier life! Key Highlights From This Episode: Defining resiliency and our innate ability to show up for those who depend on us. [05:32] Unpacking the power of hope and how it fits into resiliency. [08:28] Signs of toxic positivity and the self-awareness required to reach your goals. [13:17] Why we aren’t physically equipped for modern life and how to build in periods of rest. [15:52] Tuning into self-awareness and your body’s attempts to reregulate. [21:17] The five pillars of resilience: belonging, perspective, acceptance, hope, and humor. [23:47] How to acknowledge and address deep existential fears. [35:31] Where you can find Dr. Robyne and her latest book online. [39:04]   For More Information: Dr. Robyne Hanley-Dafoe Dr. Robyne Hanley-Dafoe on LinkedIn Dr. Robyne Hanley-Dafoe on X Dr. Robyne Hanley-Dafoe on Facebook   Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:  Check out Dr. Robyne’s award-winning book Calm Within the Storm: A Pathway to Everyday ResiliencyDiscover life-changing lessons in her latest work Stress Wisely: How to Be Well in an Unwell World   ——————— Take a 10% discount off of Kathy’s 6-session Career & Leadership Breakthrough coaching program IS IT FINALLY TIME FOR A TRUE SHIFT IN YOUR CAREER AND LEADERSHIP? Do you feel ready and excited to make the essential changes you’ve been longing for in your career but need some empowering support to begin? That help is here!  Join me as I coach and guide you through powerful, proven steps that unlock your fullest and most rewarding career potential. For a limited time, take advantage of my 10% discount for you, my amazing Finding Brave listeners.  Save 10% on both my top-rated one-on-one 6-session Career & Leadership Breakthrough coaching program or my 3-session Jumpstart Your Career Success program. Participate from the comfort of your own home, at your own pace. Now’s the time. Don’t wait! Build the career you’ve been longing for this year. I’d love to support you. REGISTER NOW and use the 10% discount code BRAVEPOD10 to save 10% on these programs TODAY! Career & Leadership Breakthrough 6-session programJumpstart Your Career Success 3-session program   ——————— Join us June 13th, 2025 for a LIVE, calming in-person retreat in NYC’s iconic Central Park - hosted by Kathy Caprino and Jordan Friedman Connect with Your Inner Calm on June 13th with Kathy and Jordan, in NYC’s iconic Central Park I’m thrilled to share an event that’s truly special coming up on June 13th, designed for folks who would like a stress-reducing, calm and enlivening retreat experience in NYC’s Central Park! For the first time, I'm teaming up with my dear friend and top stress management expert, Jordan Friedman (who I’ve had the honor of interviewing on my podcast twice now) to offer a live retreat and tour experience on June 13th in the heart of New York City's iconic Central Park. We’ll start with a 2 and ½ -hour walking tour guided by Jordan (who is also a fabulous licensed New York City tour guide) of some of the most beautiful and relaxing spots in the park, followed by an energizing and supportive Q&A session, where Jordan and I will help you directly address and navigate some of the biggest stressors you’re facing today — in your life, career, and family. We cannot wait to spend this special and meaningful time with you, surrounded by the nature, beauty and deep calm of the urban oasis of Central Park.  Spots are limited, so check out the details and register today at thestresscoach.com/central-park-retreat. Jordan and I would love to offer you this special experience on June 13th!     ——————— Sponsor Highlight I'm thrilled that both Audible.com and Amazon Music are sponsors of Finding Brave! Take advantage of their great special offers and free trials today! Audible Offer Amazon Music Offer   Quotes: “Not everything happens for a reason. Some things are just awful. It's what you do with the pieces afterward that’s really going to talk about the quality of your life.” — @dr_robynehd [0:09:47] “Motivational quotes only work if you put in the work. Simply sticking those post-it notes on your mirror [isn’t] going to do anything unless you action it.” — @dr_robynehd [0:15:02] “We are very much addicted to this stress-cycle behavior that I'm seeing in my work right now – we were meant to have a lot more ease.” — @dr_robynehd [0:17:16] “Living the dream shouldn't kill you. And it was burning me out.” — @dr_robynehd [0:19:40] “You can’t hate yourself healthy. That's probably the biggest misconception about all of this. We can't shame ourselves into doing better. We can't guilt ourselves into changing behavior.” — @dr_robynehd [0:23:01] “Historically, as a species, we have been able to rally. We have grown, we've learned, we've evolved, we've adapted, and I am so hope-filled for the future for my children, [and] for my grandchildren.” — @dr_robynehd [0:36:17] Watch our Finding Brave episodes on YouTube! Don’t forget – you can experience each Finding Brave episode in both audio and video formats! Check out new and recent episodes on my YouTube channel at YouTube.com/kathycaprino. And please leave us a comment and a thumbs up if you like the show! Kathy Caprino AI is here! Don’t forget to take full advantage of Kathy’s new digital coaching tool - Kathy Caprino AI. Get instant, personalized support and answers to your pressing career, leadership, and professional growth questions, anytime you need it - 24/7 - via audio chat or text.

Too often, the traits we’re taught to tone down are the very ones that can drive our boldest breakthroughs. In this powerful episode, we explore what it truly means to lead and live with wild courage. Dismantling conventional career advice, Jenny Wood champions a more audacious path to success, one built on traits long considered too disruptive or inappropriate to embrace. Jenny Wood is a New York Times bestselling author, speaker, and former Google executive who built one of the company’s largest career development programs. Her new book, Wild Courage: Go After What You Want and Get It, dives into nine controversial traits, from reckless to bossy, that ambitious professionals can reclaim and reframe to be better leaders and reach their full potential. With a background in research at Harvard Business School and features in Forbes, HBR, and Bloomberg, Jenny brings both insight and irreverence to the table, along with a serious talent for cutting through the noise. Through stories both personal and professional, Jenny illustrates how fear of failure, uncertainty, and judgment often keeps us playing small. Whether it’s chasing down a stranger on a subway (now her husband), asking a C-suite executive for mentorship, or launching a career-defining program at Google, she shows how reclaiming so-called negative traits like "shameless" or "reckless" can become a source of power and clarity. This episode is a candid, empowering reminder that growth begins on the edge of discomfort. Jenny shares tools to rewrite the internal stories that hold us back, and reframes boldness as a skill that can be practiced, not just a trait you’re born with. If you’re ready to stop waiting for permission and start leading with more courage in your career and life, this conversation is a must-listen!   Key Highlights From This Episode: What inspired Wild Courage and the bold subway moment that changed Jenny’s life. [04:35] How fear showed up again and again in Jenny’s coaching with professionals. [07:41] Enacting wild courage and why it might be more challenging for certain groups. [11:50] The nine controversial traits of wild courage and how to reframe and reclaim them. [12:41] How the seeds were planted for wild courage in Jenny’s childhood. [15:21] Ways that shame holds us back and tips for de-shaming your language. [19:45] A candid look at how overthinking fuels self-judgment and fear. [24:29] Tools and internal resources to reframe fear, shame, and self-doubt. [27:15] The reckless trait, why Jenny struggles with it, and how she’s learned to embrace it. [32:01] Why we need to give ourselves permission to be selfish, reckless, and bossy. [36:53]   For More Information: Jenny Wood Jenny Wood on LinkedIn Jenny Wood on InstagramJenny Wood on FacebookJenny Wood on Threads Jenny Wood on XWild Courage: Go After What You Want and Get It   Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:  Listen to Episode 271: How to Recognize and Release the Damaging Shame You Hold with David JurasekCheck out Kathy’s conversation with Jordan Friedman in Episode 308: Powerful Stress Management Approaches Designed for Times Like These   —————— FINDING BRAVE PODCAST AD FOR KATHY AND JORDAN’S CENTRAL PARK RETREAT DATE - JUNE 13, 2025 Join us June 13th, 2025 for a LIVE, calming in-person retreat in NYC’s iconic Central Park - hosted by Kathy Caprino and Jordan Friedman Connect with Your Inner Calm on June 13th with Kathy and Jordan, in NYC’s iconic Central Park I’m thrilled to announce an event that’s truly special coming up on June 13th, designed for folks who would like a stress-reducing, calm and enlivening retreat experience in NYC’s Central Park! For the first time, I'm teaming up with my dear friend and top stress management expert, Jordan Friedman (who I’ve had the honor of interviewing on my podcast twice now) to offer a live retreat and tour experience on June 13th in the heart of New York City's iconic Central Park. We’ll start with an 2 and ½ -hour walking tour guided by Jordan (who is also a fabulous licensed New York City tour guide) of some of the most beautiful and relaxing spots in the park, followed by an energizing and supportive Q&A session, where Jordan and I will help you directly address and navigate some of the biggest stressors you’re facing today — in your life, career, and family. We cannot wait to spend this special and meaningful time with you, surrounded by the nature, beauty, and deep calm of the urban oasis of Central Park. Spots are limited, so check out the details and register today at thestresscoach.com/central-park-retreat.   Jordan and I would love to offer you this special experience on June 13th!   ——————— READY FOR A HUGE PERSONAL SHIFT TO ACHIEVE MORE SUCCESS, IMPACT, AND FULFILLMENT IN YOUR CAREER THIS YEAR? Work with Kathy and get hands-on, transformative CAREER & LEADERSHIP GROWTH COACHING SUPPORT today! Are you ready for a big positive shift in how you’re working and what you’re achieving today in your career? Let’s make that happen for you! In my 6-session Career & Leadership Breakthrough 1:1 coaching program, I help professionals create and achieve what they want most,  which includes more confidence, impact, advancement, financial reward, and fulfillment. I’ve worked with over 20,000 professionals across 6 continents, and before that, I served as a therapist, and before that, I was a corporate VP, managing multi-million dollar budgets and global initiatives. I bring all of that experience to our work together, helping you build a new chapter that aligns with who you really are and what you’re ready to create. Check out kathycaprino.com/careerbreakthru and I hope you’ll register now. I’d love to support you this month and beyond!! And don’t forget to leverage Kathy Caprino AI - my new digital career coaching tool - for instant access to answers and guidance about your most pressing career and leadership growth challenges.   ——————— Order Kathy’s book The Most Powerful You today! If you enjoy the book, we’d so appreciate your giving the book a positive rating and review on Amazon! And check out Kathy’s digital companion course The Most Powerful You, to help you close the 7 most damaging power gaps in the most effective way possible.   Kathy’s Power Gaps Survey, Support To Build Your LinkedIn Profile To Great Success & Other Free Resources Kathy’s TEDx Talk, Time To Brave Up & Free Career Path Self-Assessment Kathy’s Amazing Career Project video training course & 6 Dominant Action Styles Quiz   ——————— Key Quotes from today’s episode: “The same theme kept coming up when people felt stuck [and] that theme was fear: fear of failure, fear of uncertainty, and fear of judgment [from] others.” — @itsjennywood [0:08:28] “You don't need permission from somebody else to do these things, to take these bold actions.” — @itsjennywood [0:28:23] “That same bravery, that same wild courage that pushed me to make that ask, is the same wild courage that pushes me to make other asks or requests or bold moves, and then sometimes they work out!” — @itsjennywood [0:31:33] “It's better to learn from your mistakes than to waste time predicting the consequences of every possible decision or outcome. So, think fast and fearless, and if you're on the fence, do it.” — @itsjennywood [0:32:29] “I have found that when I have been the most successful, it's [been] because I was willing to be on the edge of discomfort.” — @itsjennywood [0:32:53] “There's this disconnect between what's real and what we feel, and that's why I say ‘we have to give permission to ourselves to be selfish, to be reckless, to be bossy.’” — @itsjennywood [0:39:02]   Watch our Finding Brave episodes on YouTube! Don’t forget – you can experience each Finding Brave episode in both audio and video formats! Check out new and recent episodes on my YouTube channel at YouTube.com/kathycaprino. And please leave us a comment and a thumbs up if you like the show!

If your go-to stress strategies aren’t cutting it anymore, you’re not alone, and there’s a reason for that. Today on Finding Brave, we’re joined by deeply inspiring The Stress Coach, Jordan Friedman, to explore what really works for managing stress during high-anxiety times and why most stress-reduction methods miss the mark. With over 30 years of experience, Jordan’s science-backed, creative approach has helped thousands reduce anxiety, improve sleep, and regain control. A former Director of Columbia University’s Health Education Program and author of The Stress Manager’s Manual, Jordan is also the voice behind The Chill Factory podcast and app. His unique work blends evidence-based techniques with creativity and humor, including offering guided "chill tours" through Central Park to help groups manage stress in fun, unexpected ways. In this episode, we dig into why so many stress-reduction methods fail us during uncertain times and what we can do differently to support our nervous systems. Jordan breaks down what happens to the body and mind in extended states of anxiety and offers practical, sustainable strategies for managing stress. Plus, you’ll get a sneak peek into our upcoming Central Park Calm Retreat on June 13th, 2025 - co-hosted by Jordan and myself - where participants will experience these transformative practices firsthand in the amazingly beautiful urban oasis of NYC’s Central Park. Whether you're supporting a stressed-out team, raising anxious kids, or looking for ways to stay steady and nurture your own calm and wellbeing, this episode offers the clarity and calm you've been searching for!   Key Highlights From This Episode: The remarkable personal story that led Jordan to his work in stress management. [05:11] Hidden stressors in today’s unpredictable world and their impact on your health. [15:40] How cutting back on news, TV, and social media can help ease stress. [20:39] Why so many stress reduction methods fail (and what to do instead). [25:38] Practical strategies for effective, long-term stress management. [30:03] The science behind Jordan’s potent ‘Mod Squad’ stress-reduction technique. [35:11] Ways that community and support help mitigate fear, anxiety, and uncertainty. [41:55] How you can connect with your inner calm at the upcoming Central Park Retreat! [46:08] For More Information: The Stress Coach Jordan Friedman on LinkedIn Jordan Friedman on YouTube The Chill Factory Podcast   Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Learn how to thrive as a highly sensitive person with Andre Sólo’s Sensitive Refuge. And hear Kathy’s Finding Brave interview with Andre on Being Highly Sensitive is a Superpower: Embrace and Leverage It. And Kathy’s article on SensitiveRefuge.com: How I Found Out I’m a Highly Sensitive Person and Used It To Change My Life   ——————— JOIN US JUNE 13, 2025 for a LIVE, calming in-person retreat and tour in NYC’s iconic Central Park – hosted by Kathy Caprino and Jordan Friedman   Connect with Your Inner Calm on June 13th with Kathy and Jordan, in NYC’s iconic Central Park  I’m thrilled to share a truly special event coming up on June 13th, designed for folks who would like a stress-reducing, calm, and enlivening retreat experience in NYC’s Central Park! For the first time, I'm teaming up with my dear friend and top stress management expert, Jordan Friedman (who I’ve had the honor of interviewing on my podcast twice now), to offer a live retreat and tour experience on June 13th in the heart of New York City's iconic Central Park. We’ll start with a two and a half-hour walking tour guided by Jordan (who is also a fabulous licensed New York City tour guide) of some of the most beautiful and relaxing spots in the park, followed by an energizing and supportive Q&A session, where Jordan and I will help you directly address and navigate some of the biggest stressors you’re facing today — in your life, career, and family. We cannot wait to spend this special and meaningful time with you, surrounded by the nature, beauty, and deep calm of the urban oasis of Central Park. Spots are limited, so check out the details and register today at thestresscoach.com/central-park-retreat Jordan and I would love to be with you in this special experience on June 13th!    ——————— WANT TO BECOME THE MOST CONFIDENT, POSITIVE, AND EMPOWERED VERSION OF YOU IN LIFE AND WORK - so you can thrive at the highest level AND help others reach their highest potential as well?  It’s not too late! My 8-week live training course - The Most Powerful You - starts May 15th but you can still join us. Click here to learn more and register for this transformative and life-affirming 8 weeks group couse! CLICK HERE to learn more and register >> MostPowerfulYou.com ——————— READY FOR A HUGE PERSONAL SHIFT TO ACHIEVE MORE SUCCESS, IMPACT, AND FULFILLMENT IN YOUR CAREER THIS YEAR? Work with Kathy in a private, 1:1 program and get hands-on, transformative CAREER & LEADERSHIP GROWTH COACHING SUPPORT today! Are you ready for a big positive shift in how you’re working and what you’re achieving today in your career? Let’s make that happen for you! In my acclaimed and highly rated 6-session Career & Leadership Breakthrough 1:1 coaching program, I help people create, experience and accomplish what they want most in life and work, which includes more confidence, impact, advancement, financial reward, fulfillment and meaning. I’ve worked with over 20,000 professionals across 6 continents, and before that, I served as a therapist, and before that, I was a corporate VP, managing multi-million dollar budgets and global initiatives. I bring all of that experience to our work together, helping you build a new chapter that aligns with who you really are and what you’re ready to create. Check out kathycaprino.com/careerbreakthru and I hope you’ll register now. I’d love to support you starting today!   ——————— Order Kathy’s book The Most Powerful You today! In Australia and New Zealand, click here to order, elsewhere outside North America, click here, and in the UK, click here. If you enjoy the book, we’d so appreciate your giving the book a positive rating and review on Amazon! And check out Kathy’s digital companion course The Most Powerful You, to help you close the 7 most damaging power gaps in the most effective way possible. Kathy’s Power Gaps Survey, Support To Build Your LinkedIn Profile To Great Success & Other Free Resources Kathy’s TEDx Talk, Time To Brave Up & Free Career Path Self-Assessment Kathy’s Amazing Career Project video training course & 6 Dominant Action Styles Quiz   ——————— Sponsor Highlight I'm thrilled that both Audible.com and Amazon Music are sponsors of Finding Brave! Take advantage of their great special offers and free trials today! Audible Offer Amazon Music Offer   Quotes: “Stress on its own is not a bad thing. Stress is really important. It’s a vital part of life. It saves us from getting hit by cars, it helps us focus on – solving problems. But when stress becomes a way of life instead of a part of life, – that’s when we see more of the problems.” — Jordan Friedman [0:20:13] “Yes, meditating can help you feel calmer. It can take the edge off [your] stress and anxiety, but if that stress and anxiety continues to flow into your life – you might get into a situation where meditation isn’t enough.” — Jordan Friedman [0:26:52] “Something we get wrong – is that we’re putting band aids on things that need more attention than a band aid.” — Jordan Friedman [0:27:25] “We have great control over our fight or flight responses; maybe not initially when we’re first slammed with the stressor, but pretty soon after, the way we think about things [and] what we do can help us get back on our feet and move in a clearer, more confident, less stressed way.” — Jordan Friedman [0:34:37] “It’s not only about changing your life situations to stop the fire hydrant of stress. It’s also doing things to – keep your roots solid; breathing, sleeping, exercise, all of it.” — Jordan Friedman [0:38:34] “Reliable, predictable things in your life, [like] going to bed and waking up at the same time each day, – will help counter a lot of the lack of predictability that causes so much stress in the world.” — Jordan Friedman [0:44:09]   Watch our Finding Brave episodes on YouTube! Don’t forget – you can experience each Finding Brave episode in both audio and video formats! Check out new and recent episodes on my YouTube channel at YouTube.com/kathycaprino. And please leave us a comment and a thumbs up if you like the show!

What if the key to career growth isn’t doing more but recognizing what you’ve already achieved? Today on Finding Brave, we’re joined by inspiring author and career coach Octavia Goredema to discover how true visibility begins with valuing yourself. Octavia is the CEO of Fire Memos, a passionate advocate for helping people unlock their full potential at work, the author of PREP, PUSH, PIVOT, and host of two Audible Originals, Brand Yourself for Success and How to Change Careers. Previously featured on Finding Brave (check out Episode 248!), she returns to share new insights on personal branding, professional visibility, and why it’s more important than ever to own your worth and leverage more fully your amazing talents, abilities and experiences. In this episode, you’ll learn why great work alone isn’t enough to stand out in today’s competitive job market and how many high performers remain invisible despite their incredible contributions. We also unpack the connection between visibility and self-recognition and how naming your strengths and tracking your accomplishments form the foundation of a strong personal brand. Octavia also offers empowering tips on embracing personal branding without feeling “cringy,” even for those who avoid the spotlight, and shares the traits that define her own brand. (And the fascinating responses Octavia offered in answer to my impromptu question her own brand were very enlightening!). Want to learn how to build a memorable personal brand that embodies who you truly are? Tune in today!   Key Highlights From This Episode: Why visibility begins with self-recognition (and why so many people struggle with this). [04:55] How naming your strengths, even the most obvious ones, is key to owning your worth. [08:43] Using discomfort as a diagnostic tool to guide your next steps and fuel growth. [17:23] The power of sharing your struggles: it might be the inspiration someone else needs! [21:45] Embracing authenticity and aligning your brand with who you truly are. [25:21] Tips for identifying the key traits of your personal brand and building a presence for it. [27:41] Redefining success by how you honor your own progress, not others' opinions of it. [39:38]   For More Information: Octavia Goredema Fire Memos PREP, PUSH, PIVOT: Essential Career Strategies for Underrepresented Women Brand Yourself for Success How to Change Careers Octavia Goredema on Instagram Octavia Goredema on LinkedIn Octavia Goredema on X   Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Listen to Octavia on Finding Brave in Episode 248: ‘Essential Career Strategies for Underrepresented Women’. Watch Kathy’s TEDx Talk, 'Time To Brave Up'. Check out Shawn Achor's TEDx Talk, ‘The happy secret to better work’.   ——————— Ready to Take Your Professional Life and Leadership to the Next Level FAST in a supportive group/community environment? JOIN KATHY IN “THE MOST POWERFUL YOU” 8-WEEK COACHING AND TRAINING COURSE STARTING MAY 15TH! My 8-week LIVE course, The Most Powerful You, is now OPEN for early bird Spring registration, with big savings and bonuses! Join me in this transformational learning and growth journey! The course starts May 15th, and if you register by May 10th, you’ll save $300 and get 9 amazing bonuses — including one month of free access to my new digital coaching tool, Kathy Caprino AI. Over 8 weeks, I’ll personally coach you and an inspiring small group of professionals around the global to build your confidence, step into expanded leadership, speak up for what you want, job search and interview more successfully, connect with influential mentors, and finally make the career shifts, improvements and changes you’ve been dreaming about. You’ll also be a part of an uplifting support community, both on our live calls and in our private Facebook group. Spots are limited, so please don’t hesitate! Visit mostpowerfulyou.com to claim your early bird savings and bonuses before May 10. Let’s make this the year your professional life truly transforms in the way you dream it to. Hope to see you there!   ——————— WANT 1:1, PRIVATE SUPPORT TO TRANSFORM YOUR CAREER THIS YEAR TO REACH YOUR HIGHEST GOALS? Work with Kathy and get hands-on, transformative (1:1) CAREER & LEADERSHIP GROWTH COACHING SUPPORT today! If you’re ready for a big positive shift in how you’re working and what you’re achieving today in your career AND want to experience private, one-on-one career coaching and consulting - let’s make that happen for you! In my 6-session Career & Leadership Breakthrough 1:1 coaching program or my 10-session Build Your Confidence, Success and Impact program, I help men and women get what they want most, which includes more confidence, impact, advancement, financial reward, and fulfillment and exponential growth and reach. I’ve worked with over 25,000 professionals across 6 continents, and before that, I served as a therapist, and before that, I was a corporate VP, managing multi-million dollar budgets and global initiatives. I bring all of that experience to our work together, helping you build a new chapter that aligns with who you really are and what you’re ready to create. Check out the links above if you’re ready for a big positive shift this year. I hope you’ll register now. I’d love to support you!   ——————— Order Kathy’s book The Most Powerful You today!   In Australia and New Zealand, click here to order, elsewhere outside North America, click here, and in the UK, click here. If you enjoy the book, we’d so appreciate your giving the book a positive rating and review on Amazon! And check out Kathy’s digital companion course The Most Powerful You, to help you close the 7 most damaging power gaps in the most effective way possible. Kathy’s Power Gaps Survey, Support To Build Your LinkedIn Profile To Great Success & Other Free Resources Kathy’s TEDx Talk, Time To Brave Up & Free Career Path Self-Assessment Kathy’s Amazing Career Project video training course & 6 Dominant Action Styles Quiz   ——————— Sponsor Highlight I'm thrilled that both Audible.com and Amazon Music are sponsors of Finding Brave! Take advantage of their great special offers and free trials today! Audible Offer Amazon Music Offer   Quotes: “Self-promotion can feel so hard, or cringy, or icky. To get past that feeling, we have to connect with ourselves. Before we can talk to anyone else, whether that's a co-worker, or our boss, or our networks about the work that we're doing, we have to recognize our value ourselves.” — @OctaviaGoredema [0:05:14] “Personal branding starts with owning your narrative unapologetically.” — @OctaviaGoredema [0:16:18] “Growth is so uncomfortable in the moment, but it's so important because that's actually what helps you identify where the misalignment is. You might not be able to snap your fingers and change it immediately, but it's giving you indicators.” — @OctaviaGoredema [0:19:50] “Ultimately, what you're doing [in building a personal brand] is embodying who you are and building trust around who you are and what you do. It really is that simple.” — @OctaviaGoredema [0:27:03] “If you are investing in [a social media presence], it’s not about likes and it’s not about the number of followers that you have. It's actually about the authenticity of what you share.” — @OctaviaGoredema [0:38:59] “The [real] measure of success is taking the time to privately recognize your progress and to honor that and to celebrate that.” — @OctaviaGoredema [0:39:48]   Watch our Finding Brave episodes on YouTube! Don’t forget – you can experience each Finding Brave episode in both audio and video formats! Check out new and recent episodes on my YouTube channel at YouTube.com/kathycaprino. And please leave us a comment and a thumbs up if you like the show!

If you still think of LinkedIn as nothing more than a job site or somewhere you go to upload your online resume, now is the time to update and expand your approach! Today on the show, we welcome LinkedIn insider Jon Lyndon for a deep dive into the evolution of LinkedIn and why we should all be using it as a human connection tool and a pathway to opportunity at scale. Having spent nearly a decade at LinkedIn, Jon is an expert in how to leverage the true power of the platform. He is the founder and CEO of Lyndon Consulting, where he works with global companies and executive leaders on their LinkedIn strategy, helping them rethink how they show up, connect, and lead in a digital world. He also advises professional athletes transitioning out of sport, guiding them in building strong personal brands. In our conversation, Jon breaks down the biggest misconceptions about LinkedIn. He unpacks how only using it as a job search leads you to lose out on key opportunities and explains powerfully why we can all afford to share more on LinkedIn — and why sharing doesn’t need to be inauthentic or boastful. Jon also offers his expert guidance on how to navigate LinkedIn when you’ve been let go from your job, and how to build greater trust, credibility, and clarity, so you’re connecting with inspiring people and learning from them, while building a mutually supportive and enriching community. We also discuss the power of LinkedIn recommendations, how trust equals consistency over time, the importance of getting clear on the outcomes you want to achieve on LinkedIn, and Jon’s transformative personal branding work with athletes. To hear the full scope of our conversation about LinkedIn and discover its full power as a human connection tool, be sure to tune in! Key Highlights From This Episode: A breakdown of the biggest misconceptions about LinkedIn. [04:31] Jon’s career at LinkedIn and how the platform has evolved. [09:06] How to get more comfortable and confident with sharing your achievements and experience on LinkedIn. [13:36] How to tease out the “20 facts of you” - the 20 accomplishments that you are most proud of and why these matter greatly to you, and how to share those in exciting ways [17:28} Why you should keep your LinkedIn updated even if you have job security. [20:06] Advice on how to navigate LinkedIn and share after being laid off. [23:44] Language one can draw on to potentially consider sharing on LinkedIn about a layoff they’ve experienced, and what they’re looking for next. [24:16] Suggestions for reaching out to people you want to connect with more. [27:27] The power of helping others and utilizing recommendations on LinkedIn. [32:20] Getting clarity on the outcomes you want to achieve on LinkedIn. [40:29] How Jon serves professional athletes through personal branding. [45:49] Final thoughts on how to prepare for and navigate your next chapter. [45:49]   For More Information: Jon Lyndon on LinkedInLyndon Consulting   ——————— READY FOR A HUGE PERSONAL SHIFT TO ACHIEVE MORE SUCCESS, IMPACT, AND FULFILLMENT IN YOUR CAREER THIS YEAR?   Work with Kathy and get hands-on, transformative CAREER & LEADERSHIP GROWTH COACHING SUPPORT today! Hey folks! Kathy here. Are you ready for a big positive shift in how you’re working and what you’re achieving today in your career? Let’s make that happen for you! While you might know me best as a podcast host and a writer, a key focus in my work is helping professionals experience greater success and achieve their biggest goals in the quickest, most effective way possible. In my 6-session Career & Leadership Breakthrough 1:1 coaching program, I help men and women get what they want most, which includes more confidence, impact, advancement, financial reward, and fulfillment. I’ve worked with over 20,000 women across 6 continents, and before that, I served as a therapist, and before that, I was a corporate VP, managing multi-million dollar budgets and global initiatives. I bring all of that experience to our work together, helping you build a new chapter that aligns with who you really are and what you’re ready to create. Check out kathycaprino.com/careerbreakthru and I hope you’ll register now. I’d love to support you!   ——————— Ready to Take Your Professional Life and Leadership to the Next Level FAST in a supportive group/community environment?  JOIN “THE MOST POWERFUL YOU” 8-WEEK COACHING AND TRAINING COURSE WITH KATHY STARTING MAY 15TH! Quick update here! My 8-week LIVE course, The Most Powerful You, is now OPEN for early bird Spring registration, with big savings and bonuses! The course starts May 15th, and if you register by May 10th, you’ll save $300 and get 9 amazing bonuses — including one month of free access to my new digital coaching tool, Kathy Caprino AI. Over 8 weeks, I’ll personally coach you and an amazing small group of professionals around the global to build your confidence, step into expanded leadership, speak up for what you want, job search and interview more successfully, connect with influential mentors, and finally - make the career shifts, improvements and changes you’ve been dreaming about. You’ll also be a part of an amazing support community, both on our live calls and in our private Facebook group. Spots are limited, so don’t wait! Visit mostpowerfulyou.com to claim your early bird savings and bonuses before May 10. Let’s make this the year your professional life truly transforms in the way you dream it to. Hope to see you there!   ——————— Order Kathy’s book The Most Powerful You today! In Australia and New Zealand, click here to order, elsewhere outside North America, click here, and in the UK, click here. If you enjoy the book, we’d so appreciate your giving the book a positive rating and review on Amazon! And check out Kathy’s digital companion course The Most Powerful You, to help you close the 7 most damaging power gaps in the most effective way possible. Kathy’s Power Gaps Survey, Support To Build Your LinkedIn Profile To Great Success & Other Free Resources Kathy’s TEDx Talk, Time To Brave Up & Free Career Path Self-Assessment Kathy’s Amazing Career Project video training course & 6 Dominant Action Styles Quiz   ——————— Sponsor Highlight I'm thrilled that both Audible.com and Amazon Music are sponsors of Finding Brave! Take advantage of their great special offers and free trials today! Audible Offer Amazon Music Offer   Quotes: “The way that I think about LinkedIn is [as] a human connection tool. It creates a pathway to opportunity at scale.” — Jon Lyndon [0:05:01] “When we are sharing facts and stories, and things that we've accomplished — if we have an outcome that we want to come from that, it helps us be authentic, and it helps us to be confident about those things because it leads into something rather than just sharing to share.” — Jon Lyndon [0:18:33] “When you begin to share those in the right way, other people then attach to those things, and they're relevant because they say, ‘Oh, I didn't know that about you, but this applies [to] my life because I'm going through this as well.’” — Jon Lyndon [0:19:14] “You never know when [LinkedIn] might become relevant, it might not be a layoff, but you might want to start a new business.” — Jon Lyndon [0:22:59] “If you're working in corporate and you're trying to sell products and services, there [are] ways that you can do it in a human, authentic, thought leader way that is still pretty much an untapped opportunity on LinkedIn for a lot of people.” — Jon Lyndon [0:43:43] “If you know the outcomes, and you're clear about what they are in any area of your life, then creating the pathway to get there becomes so much easier.” — Jon Lyndon [0:50:18]   Watch our Finding Brave episodes on YouTube! Don’t forget – you can experience each Finding Brave episode in both audio and video formats! Check out new and recent episodes on my YouTube channel at YouTube.com/kathycaprino. And please leave us a comment and a thumbs up if you like the show!

The moment you choose to change your relationship to money is the moment you change every single generation ahead of you. In this episode of Finding Brave, top financial wellbeing speaker, multi-award-winning Financial Coach, and international author Catherine Morgan joins us to talk about a vitally important topic: when money feels dangerous and how to heal our survival response to wealth. A Financial Wellbeing Speaker, multi-award-winning Financial Coach, and international author of the bestselling book It's Not About the Money, Catherine presents a trauma-informed psychological approach to money. As the founder of The Money Panel®, Catherine trains financial professionals through her acclaimed Financial Coach Certification program, and works with consumers through empowering courses and retreats.  Recognized as one of the top 32 female entrepreneurs by Business Leader, her expertise has been featured in a wide array of top media and her podcast It’s Not About The Money is in the top 0.5% in the world. Catherine’s journey into financial coaching began with her own realization of how emotions and money are deeply connected. She unpacks the hidden blueprint of abundance that we inherit, particularly from maternal relationships, and how these subconscious beliefs can impact our financial well-being. We also discuss the core beliefs that influence financial health, as well as the new paradigms of wealth, expansion, and contraction. Catherine sheds light on the powerful emotions of shame and guilt around money, how they manifest in the body, and the essential practice of reclaiming your worth beyond financial status. Finally, Catherine offers a simple yet transformative piece of advice that is relevant for everyone, no matter where they are in their financial journey. Through forgiveness work and deep self-acceptance, she reveals how we can release financial fear and step into a healthier, more empowered and loving relationship with money. If you’re ready to shift your financial story and experience and embrace true wealth as it feels most heart-aligned for you, this episode is a must-listen.   Key Points From This Episode:  Welcome to Catherine Morgan, who is also featured in the Finding Brave Episode 205 and 206 in our 2-part series about Building Financial Wellbeing Into the Heart of Your Life and Work. [02:11] Catherine’s first experiences of the connections between emotions and money. [06:20] The blueprint of abundance that we inherit from our maternal relationships. [12:11] Core beliefs that influence your financial health and more. [19:30] New paradigms of wealth and money and what it means to expand and contract with wealth. [26:04] Understanding that “you are not your money” - observing shame and guilt about money in the body and reclaiming your worth beyond money. [34:23] A potent piece of practical advice that is relevant for every individual on a way to recognize and heal your relationship with money. [40:27] Defining wealth on a personal level, beyond financial success. [45:25]   For More Information: Catherine Morgan Catherine Morgan on XCatherine Morgan on Instagram Catherine Morgan on LinkedIn The Money PanelWealthy Women Community   Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Catherine’s Quiz, What’s Your Money Storytypes? Maria Nemeth’s Book, The Energy of Money: A Spiritual Guide to Financial and Personal Fulfilment Bessel van Der Kolk’s Book, The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and the Body in the Healing of Trauma The HearthMath Institute   ——————— READY FOR A HUGE PERSONAL SHIFT TO ACHIEVE MORE SUCCESS, IMPACT AND FULFILLMENT IN YOUR CAREER THIS YEAR?  Work with Kathy and get hands-on, transformative CAREER & LEADERSHIP GROWTH COACHING SUPPORT today!   Join me today in one of my top-requested career and leadership growth 1:1 coaching programs and take 20% off the price this week with coupon code ‘FBRAVE20 as my thank-you for tuning in today.! Visit my Career Help page, or click the links below for more information and to register today and save 20%: – Accelerate Your Job Search Success (3 sessions)– Career & Leadership Breakthrough program (6 sessions)– Build Your Confidence, Sucess and Impact (10 sessions) ———————   GET INSTANT ANSWERS TO YOUR PRESSING CAREER QUESTIONS 24/7 WITH KATHY’S DIGITAL CAREER COACHING TOOL —KATHY CAPRINO AI I’m thrilled to share my new Kathy Caprino AI career and leadership growth digital coaching tool. Here’s more about it! >> https://kathycaprino.com/kathyai Powered by Delphi.ai, this tool brings my career growth teachings, advice, and answers honed from 18 years of coaching thousands of professionals. It offers tailored answers to your most pressing questions directly to you, 24/7. As a subscriber, you’ll get unlimited access and can message or audio chat with my AI clone anytime you need guidance, plus special one-on-one help from me when you register for the annual membership. Drawing on 40+ years of work experience—from corporate life, therapy, and coaching to writing and speaking across 6 continents—I’ve trained Kathy AI using over 2.6 million words of my own content, including articles, books, podcasts, interviews, and workshops seen by over 41 million people. Let Kathy Caprino AI be your trusted resource for real-time career, leadership, and personal growth support. Check it out and subscribe today at kathycaprino.com/kathyai. I hope it becomes a game-changer for you! ——————— Order Kathy’s book The Most Powerful You today! In Australia and New Zealand, click here to order, elsewhere outside North America, click here, and in the UK, click here. If you enjoy the book, we’d so appreciate your giving it a positive rating and review on Amazon! And check out Kathy’s digital companion course The Most Powerful You, to help you close the 7 most damaging power gaps in the most effective way possible.   Kathy’s Power Gaps Survey, Support To Build Your LinkedIn Profile To Great Success & Other Free Training  Kathy’s TEDx Talk, Time To Brave Up & Free Career Path Self-Assessment Kathy’s Vidoe courses: Amazing Career Project and The Most Powerful You   ——————— Quotes:  “Money really is a mirror reflection of the relationship we have with ourselves.” — @themoneypanel [0:06:46] “The relationship we have with money is the relationship we have with ourselves and our identity and self-worth.” — @themoneypanel [0:16:40] “Somewhere underneath or in between those threads is this core belief that money is not safe for me - either to make or ask for it, or it’s not safe to keep it and hold it.  [0:21:40] “It is key to recognize that money and the relationship you have to it is a survival response.” — @themoneypanel [0:24:09] “The way that wealth has been created is not the way that wealth will be created. We are shifting into an entirely new paradigm” — @themoneypanel [0:26:11] “The way that we spend money, the way that we invest, the way that we save – is driven by our value system.” — @themoneypanel [0:30:45] “It’s about ‘being’ wealth as well as ‘doing’ wealth.” — @themoneypanel [0:42:05]   Watch our Finding Brave episodes on YouTube! Don’t forget – you can experience each Finding Brave episode in both audio and video formats! Check out new and recent episodes on my YouTube channel at YouTube.com/kathycaprino. And please leave us a comment and a thumbs up if you like the show!

Conflict is a part of life, whether it’s in our relationships, workplaces, or even global politics, yet many of us either shy away from it or escalate it, leading to stress, resentment, and division. Today on Finding Brave, behavioral neurologist Dr. Joel Salinas joins us to discuss how we can navigate disagreement with confidence and resilience—and even turn it into a powerful tool for building stronger connections. Dr. Salinas is a Clinical Associate Professor of Neurology at NYU Grossman School of Medicine and the co-author with Robert C. Bordone, of Conflict Resilience: Negotiating Disagreement Without Giving Up or Giving In. In this fascinating book, Joel and Robert blend advanced conflict management strategies with cutting-edge neuroscience to introduce a simple yet powerful three-step framework for navigating everyday conflict. In this episode, Dr. Salinas reveals how conflict resilience rather than resolution can transform the way we engage with disagreement. He also explores the impact of social isolation, our fear of discomfort, and how avoiding conflict can ultimately weaken both personal and professional relationships, all while offering practical tools to navigate tough conversations with confidence, clarity, and compassion. Whether you struggle with difficult conversations or simply want to strengthen your relationships and your communication approach, this episode is filled with valuable insights to help you approach conflict with clarity, confidence, and bravery. Tune in now to start transforming the way you engage with disagreement.   Key Highlights From This Episode: Understanding the surprising link between connection and conflict. [04:42] How social isolation and polarization contribute to conflict avoidance. [09:14] Reasons that we often see the other person as “the problem” in a conflict. [12:47] Finding a balance between setting boundaries and engaging in difficult conversations.[15:10] Insight into the three key tenets of deep listening. [18:18] An example that illustrates how to navigate everyday conflict with resilience. [22:56] How to phrase questions in a way that invites productive conversation. [26:04] The uncertainty of conflict outcomes (and why that shouldn’t stop us). [28:16] Practical strategies to help you rewire your brain to handle conflict better. [31:02] Unpacking the benefits of conflict resilience and how you can start practicing today. [38:12] For More Information: Dr. Joel Salinas Conflict Resilience: Negotiating Disagreement Without Giving Up or Giving In Dr. Joel Salinas on LinkedIn Dr. Joel Salinas on Instagram Dr. Joel Salinas on YouTube Dr. Joel Salinas on X   Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Read Joel’s book, Mirror Touch: A Memoir of Synesthesia and the Secret Life of the Brain Learn more about the co-author of Conflict Resilience, Bob Bordone Watch examples of navigating crises in the Netflix show Madam Secretary   ——————— KATHY’S DIGITAL CAREER COACHING CLONE—‘KATHY CAPRINO AI”—IS HERE!   I’m very excited to announce the release of my new Kathy Caprino AI career and leadership coaching clone! Here’s more about it! >> https://kathycaprino.com/kathyai Powered by Delphi.ai, this tool brings my career growth teachings, advice, and answers to your most pressing questions directly to you, 24/7. With a subscription, you get unlimited access and can message or audio chat with my AI clone anytime you need guidance. Drawing on my 40+ years of experience—from corporate life, therapy, and coaching to writing and speaking across 6 continents—I’ve trained Kathy AI using over 2.5 million words of my own content, including articles, books, podcasts, interviews, and workshops seen by over 41 million people. My mission? To make Kathy Caprino AI your trusted resource for real-time career, leadership, and personal growth strategies. Get tailored answers to your toughest career challenges and practical solutions to achieve your top goals. We offer two affordable pricing tiers, with Tier 2 unlocking great bonuses like membership to my new Career Breakthrough Community, including free coaching calls with me, exclusive discounts on my courses and programs, free LinkedIn support, and so much more. It also makes a fantastic gift for friends, family, or colleagues who want to thrive professionally! Check it out and subscribe today at kathycaprino.com/kathyai. Let me know what you think— I truly hope it becomes a game-changer for you! For other career support programs, visit my Career Help page.   ——————— Order Kathy’s book The Most Powerful You today! In Australia and New Zealand, click here to order, elsewhere outside North America, click here, and in the UK, click here. If you enjoy the book, we’d so appreciate your giving the book a positive rating and review on Amazon! And check out Kathy’s digital companion course The Most Powerful You, to help you close the 7 most damaging power gaps in the most effective way possible. Kathy’s Power Gaps Survey, Support To Build Your LinkedIn Profile To Great Success & Other Free Resources Kathy’s TEDx Talk, Time To Brave Up & Free Career Path Self-Assessment Kathy’s Amazing Career Project video training course & 6 Dominant Action Styles Quiz   ——————— QUOTES: “You can't have an authentic relationship with somebody unless you're coming across and sorting through the differences we have. It's impossible to have one-to-one the exact same desires, interests, and contexts.” — @JoelSalinasMD [0:07:26] “When we're in a conflict situation, – it's very common that our first reaction is to see the other person as the problem. We want to take a stance that's more about agency and empowerment, starting with what you have control over: – your own relationship with conflict.” — @JoelSalinasMD [0:14:24] “A generous question begets a generous response – [Make] sure you're asking questions with the intent of understanding, not questions to harm the other person, put them down, or be overly defensive.” — @JoelSalinasMD [0:22:18] “Our brains evolved to be fortune-telling machines. It takes all our past experiences and memories to make predictions – and uses those predictions to make choices and take action – to help us survive and avoid danger. Out in the Savannah, that could have been helpful, – but it can be tricky when your brain is telling you interacting with somebody across lines of difference is a threat.” — @JoelSalinasMD [0:29:22] “It can be helpful to find the [bigger, better offer (BBO)]: what is the consequence or risk of me not engaging in this [difficult] conversation?” — @JoelSalinasMD [0:41:35] “Part of building this mindset and skill set is a process of reprogramming and rewiring your brain.” — @JoelSalinasMD [0:44:18] “Our brains evolved to be fortune-telling machines. It takes all our past experiences and memories to make predictions – and uses those predictions to make choices and take action – to help us survive and avoid danger. Out in the Savannah, that could have been helpful, – but it can be tricky when your brain is telling you interacting with somebody across lines of difference is a threat.” — @JoelSalinasMD [0:29:22]   Watch our Finding Brave episodes on YouTube! Don’t forget – you can experience each Finding Brave episode in both audio and video formats! Check out new and recent episodes on my YouTube channel at YouTube.com/kathycaprino. And please leave us a comment and a thumbs up if you like the show!

What if the key to better relationships, deeper influence, and personal growth wasn’t about fixing problems, but about acknowledging and accepting others? Today on Finding Brave, we sit down with Dr. Caroline Fleck, a licensed psychologist, corporate consultant, and adjunct clinical instructor at Stanford University, to explore the transformative power of validation. Dr. Fleck is a recognized expert in Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT), specializing in working with high-conflict individuals and organizations. Her insights on psychology and human behavior have been featured in major outlets such as The New York Times, Good Morning America, and The Huffington Post. Her new book, Validation: How the Skill Set That Revolutionized Psychology Will Transform Your Relationships, Increase Your Influence, and Change Your Life, challenges conventional communication habits and offers practical tools for fostering meaningful and productive connections. In this episode, Dr. Fleck breaks down why validation is often misunderstood and why it’s a crucial skill for improving our personal and professional relationships. She shares how it differs from agreement, fosters emotional safety, and can lead to real behavior change. Using real-life examples, she demonstrates how validation can be a game-changer in parenting, leadership, and even high-stakes corporate environments. We also explore the science behind validation and discover how mindfulness, understanding, and empathy form the foundation of meaningful human interaction. Tuning in, you’ll learn about the eight levels of validation, common mistakes people make when trying to be supportive, and simple shifts in communication that can dramatically improve trust and influence. Whether you're tackling workplace challenges, parenting struggles, or relationship conflicts, this episode is packed with powerful, real-world strategies you can start using today!   Key Points From This Episode: [04:19] Why validation is not about agreement but acknowledging another’s experience [12:10] Acceptance as a powerful tool for change, especially in high-conflict situations. [14:00] Powerful validation skills that aren’t commonly taught (but should be). [16:36] Three key elements of validation: presence, understanding, and care. [22:10] How validation helped Dr. Fleck reconnect with her daughter after cancer treatment. [26:23] Making change easier by helping people accept their emotions as valid. [29:48] A CEO’s success story using validation to navigate workplace conflict. [36:37] Reasons that problem-solving often backfires when loved ones just want to be heard. [41:15] How validation fosters emotional safety and encourages open communication. For More Information: Dr. Caroline Fleck Dr. Fleck’s new book Validation Dr. Caroline Fleck on LinkedIn Dr. Caroline Fleck on Instagram Dr. Caroline Fleck on YouTube Dr. Caroline Fleck on TikTok   _____________________________________________ SPECIAL SAVINGS ON KATHY’S CAREER & LEADERSHIP COACHING PROGRAMS FOR FINDING BRAVE LISTENERS THIS MONTH Take 20% off Kathy’s top three most requested 1:1 private career & leadership coaching programs this week! Accelerate Your Job Search Success (3 sessions) Career & Leadership Breakthrough program (6 sessions) Build Your Confidence, Impact and Success at Work (10 sessions) Use coupon code FBRAVE20 this week for your savings.   _____________________________________________ KATHY’S DIGITAL CAREER COACHING CLONE—‘KATHY CAPRINO AI”—IS HERE!   I’m very excited to share my new “Kathy Caprino AI” career and leadership coaching clone! Here’s more about it! >> https://kathycaprino.com/kathyai Powered by Delphi.ai, this tool brings my 18+ years of career growth teachings, advice, and answers to your most pressing career questions directly to you, 24/7. With a subscription, you get unlimited access and can message or audio chat with my AI clone anytime you need guidance. Drawing on my 40+ years of experience—from corporate life, work as a therapist, and coaching to writing and speaking with thousands of people across 6 continents—I’ve trained Kathy AI using over 2.5 million words of my own content, including articles, books, podcasts, interviews, and workshops seen by over 41 million people. My mission? To make Kathy Caprino AI your trusted resource for real-time career, leadership, and personal growth strategies. Get tailored answers to your toughest career challenges and practical solutions to achieve your top goals. We offer two affordable pricing tiers, with Tier 2 unlocking great bonuses like membership to my new Career Breakthrough Community, including free monthly career coaching calls with me, a 30-minute private consultation, exclusive discounts on my courses and programs, free LinkedIn support, and so much more.   It also makes a fantastic gift for friends, family, and your teams and colleagues who want to thrive professionally! Check it out and subscribe today at kathycaprino.com/kathyai. Let me know what you think—and I truly hope it becomes a game-changer for you!   For other career support programs, visit my Career Help page. ———————   Order Kathy’s book The Most Powerful You today! In Australia and New Zealand, click here to order, elsewhere outside North America, click here, and in the UK, click here. If you enjoy the book, we’d so appreciate your giving the book a positive rating and review on Amazon! And check out Kathy’s digital companion course The Most Powerful You, to help you close the 7 most damaging power gaps in the most effective way possible. Kathy’s Power Gaps Survey, Support To Build Your LinkedIn Profile To Great Success & Other Free Resources Kathy’s TEDx Talk, Time To Brave Up & Free Career Path Self-Assessment Kathy’s Amazing Career Project video training course & 6 Dominant Action Styles Quiz   ——————— Sponsor Highlight I'm thrilled that both Audible.com and Amazon Music are sponsors of Finding Brave! Take advantage of their great special offers and free trials today! Audible Offer Amazon Music Offer     Quotes: “Validation must be authentic. If it is not, then you're not validating the other person.” — Dr. Caroline Fleck [0:14:58] “The first thing you need is mindfulness. You need to be – paying attention non-judgmentally. Through that process, you will – start to understand some part of that person's experience, be it their thoughts, emotions, or behavior.” — Dr. Caroline Fleck [0:16:02] “Part of the reason [validation] is so transformative for folks, especially folks who have big emotions, is that it – makes it easier to work on change because you're able to accept that your emotions are valid.” — Dr. Caroline Fleck [0:28:03] “Acceptance is a pathway to change.” — Dr. Caroline Fleck [0:30:46] “If you open with what's valid and if you see some part of the other person, they're going to be much more open and receptive to collaborating [and] working with you.” — Dr. Caroline Fleck [0:34:04] “Two-thirds of the time, when we go to people with our problems, we just want to be heard, see that they're valid, and [be] taken seriously.” — Dr. Caroline Fleck [0:40:58]   Watch our Finding Brave episodes on YouTube! Don’t forget – you can experience each Finding Brave episode in both audio and video formats! 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Many people feel stuck in their current financial situation, believing that wealth and stability are out of reach. But what if the key to financial success isn’t about making drastic changes overnight but rather small, intentional shifts in mindset and habits? Today’s guest, George Grombacher, has spent 24 years helping people take control of their money and their lives. A five-time Investopedia Top 100 Financial Advisor, he is the author of Your Money Story: How to Get the Ending You Want and a champion of financial empowerment. As President of Financial Consulting Professionals, Founder of Money Alignment Academy, and host of the LifeBlood Podcast and Aligned Money Show, George shares powerful insights empowering others to build lasting financial security. In our conversation, George outlines the most common barriers to financial success and the key steps you can take to overcome them. He breaks down the limiting beliefs people tend to have around money and how deep internal work can help you rewrite your money story. From tracking expenses to reshaping your financial mindset, he reveals how small, consistent actions create lasting change. Financial success is about so much more than numbers. It’s about aligning your choices with what truly matters. By challenging old narratives, reflecting on your goals, and making intentional decisions, you can build a future that feels both secure and fulfilling. Tune in to discover how to take control of your money story one step at a time!   Key Highlights From This Episode: Introducing George Grombacher and his book Your Money Story. [02:23] Aligning your financial goals with your values and resources. [09:51] Common barriers to financial success and steps to overcome them. [11:51] How to address the typical blocks people have around money. [14:09] Understanding the way limiting beliefs and emotions inform your financial choices. [17:45] Key steps for rewriting your limiting beliefs. [22:46] Creating change by knowing, tracking, and reviewing your expenses. [25:41] How small, incremental steps can help you achieve the life you aspire to. [27:45] A new way to frame - and move toward - what is “just right” for you [28:00] The rewards that come from deep reflection and identifying what you really want. [35:05] Challenges affluent people face and addressing feelings of shame. [37:37] For More Information: George Grombacher George Grombacher on LinkedIn George Grombacher on X George Grombacher on Facebook George Grombacher on Instagram George Grombacher Books Your Money Story: How to Get the Ending You Want Money Alignment Academy Financial Consulting Professionals LifeBlood Podcast Aligned Money Show   Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:  Read Daniel Kahneman’s Thinking, Fast and SlowListen to Kathy’s appearance on the LifeBlood Podcast, Episode 1274: How to Find a Career You Love with Kathy CaprinoKathy’s previous Finding Brave interview with George, Episode 198: What's Really Holding Us Back From Earning and Having Exponentially More Money with George Grmbacher   ——————— JOIN KATHY IN “THE MOST POWERFUL YOU” LIVE COURSE - STARTS FEBRUARY 27 2025 I’m thrilled to announce that my 8-week LIVE course, The Most Powerful You is now open for early bird enrollment! 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Audible Offer Amazon Music Offer   Quotes: “What all this comes down to is understanding what is most important to me and what matters to me, and then making sure that I am allocating my most valuable resources aligned with what is most important.” — @glgrombacher [0:09:53] “Invariably, when I get up in front of a room, somebody will say to me, ‘I'm just not good at money. ’ Well, fair, currently you might not be, but if you really believe that, you are going to have a really hard time becoming financially successful.” — @glgrombacher [0:15:03] “There's a ton of internal work that we need to do to try to uncover any limiting or negative beliefs you have about money.” — @glgrombacher [0:15:16] “The good news is you can overwrite those limiting beliefs.” — @glgrombacher [0:23:06] “Just because you can't go from where I am today to having everything that I want tomorrow doesn't mean that I can't incrementally be working to get that.” — @glgrombacher [0:29:18] “You are worthy and deserving of the life that you want, [and] the financial life that you want, but none of us are entitled to it. Nobody's going to give it to us.” — @glgrombacher [0:42:03]   Watch our Finding Brave episodes on YouTube! Don’t forget – you can experience each Finding Brave episode in both audio and video formats! Check out new and recent episodes on my YouTube channel at YouTube.com/kathycaprino. And please leave us a comment and a thumbs up if you like the show!