

Working Class Audio
Working Class Audio
The Working Class Audio Podcast pulls back the curtain on the professional recording world. Host and audio engineer Matt Boudreau talks with guests from music, film, games, restoration, and beyond—diving into their real-world journeys. No fluff, just honest conversations about the wins, losses, money, collaboration, and survival strategies that define a career in audio. It's recording life from a working class perspective.
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Apr 8, 2025 • 1h 45min
WCA #538 with Greg Norman – Steve Albini, Electrical Audio, Community, Family, & Institutional Knowledge
In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes Greg Norman of Electrical Audio to the show to talk about his journey, Steve Albini, the future of Electrical Audio and much more. In This Episode, We Discuss:
State of Electrical Audio
Steve Albini's Influence
Greg's Interest in Sound
Internship with Steve
Growth and Independence
The Financial Aspect
Legacy and The Future
Links and Show Notes:
Electrical Audio
Greg's Site
Yamaha Sound Reinforcement
Matt's Rant: Visiting Other StudiosCredits:
Guest: Greg Norman
Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
The Voice: Chuck Smith

Mar 31, 2025 • 53min
WCA #537 with Peter Craft – Napa Destination Studio, Bonding Experiences, Life in Tech, Songwriters as Magicians, and Inspiration of Scenes
Peter Craft, owner of Boxer Lodge Studios in Napa, shares his inspiring journey from a tech career to full-time audio engineering. He discusses the creation of his destination studio, emphasizing the importance of community and collaboration among musicians. Craft reflects on memorable recording experiences and the technical challenges of studio acoustics. He also highlights the balance between passion and profession in the audio industry, advocating for affordable solutions that support burgeoning talents in the vibrant Bay Area scene.

Mar 25, 2025 • 54min
WCA #536 with Robert Kirby – Leaving Home, Tahoe, Education, Fantasy Studios, Growth, and The Noise Shop
In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes Bay Area producer and engineer Robert Kirby, who shares his journey from audio student to studio intern, assistant, and ultimately to running his own studio space.In This Episode, We Discuss:
Building a Sustainable Audio Career
Gaining Experience at Legendary Studios
Creating Opportunities Through Relocation
Starting With DIY Audio Experimentation
Leveraging Early Interests for Growth
Embracing Hands-On Studio Education
Transitioning From Hobbyist to Professional
Pursuing Formal Audio Education Intentionally
Learning From World-Class Sessions
Growing Through Industry Mentorships
Staying Versatile With Income Streams
Building Reputation Through Referrals
Links and Show Notes:
Robert's Studio
Scott Evans on WCA #256
Scott Evans on WCA #010
Bruce Kaphan on WCA #030
Profit First Book
Profit First on Audible
Matt's Rant: A Different Way To Handle MoneyCredits:
Guest: Robert Kirby
Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
The Voice: Chuck Smith

Mar 18, 2025 • 1h 5min
WCA #535 with Case Newcomb – COVID Career Shift, Industry Connections, Taking Command, Learning Process, and Customer Service
In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes San Francisco based Producer, Engineer and Mixer Case Newcomb. Case works out of many studios including Hyde Street and 25th Street Recording and has worked on projects for Ishmael Reed, NVRMAN, and Rafe Stepto. In This Episode, We Discuss:
Audio Journey
COVID Career Shift
City College Program
First Real Mix
Passion For Audio
Mentors
Industry Connections
Early Mixing Struggles
Taking Command
Customer Service
Learning Process
Career Aspirations
Links and Show Notes:
Case's Site
Case on Instagram
WCA # 157 with Dana Jae
WCA #018 with David R. Bowels
Matt's Rant: The People Around YouCredits:
Guest: Case Newcomb
Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
The Voice: Chuck Smith

Mar 11, 2025 • 58min
WCA #534 with Brendan Duffey – Genre Diversity, Grounded Mindset, Career Evolution, Peaceful Living, and A Berklee Degree
In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes back Grammy Winning Producer, Mixing and Mastering Engineer Brendan Duffey who has worked on projects for Bruce Dickinson, Devon Townsend, Sheryl Crow, and Kendrick Lamar. Brendan is also the Senior ATMOS mastering engineer for Million Dollar Snare.In This Episode, We Discuss:
Relocation
Studio build
Atmos mixing
Hip-hop projects
Bruce Dickinson
Genre diversity
Berklee degree
Teaching plans
Pricing growth
Networking
Grounded mindset
Peaceful living
Career evolution
Encouragement
Links and Show Notes:
Brendan Duffey on WCA #231
Jack Endino on WCA #174
Brendan's Site
Million Dollar Snare
Matt's Rant: Dealing with ChallengesCredits:
Guest: Brendan Duffey
Host/Engineer/Editing/Producer: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
The Voice: Chuck Smith

Mar 3, 2025 • 1h 12min
WCA #533 with Mike Fraser – Mixing, Psychology, Workflow, Managers, and Starting as a Janitor
In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes Legendary rock mix engineer Mike Fraser to discuss his 40+ year career crafting iconic records for Aerosmith, AC/DC, and more.In This Episode, We Discuss:
Mixing approach – Keeping it minimalist & focusing on the song
Time management & career longevity in the music business
Building trust with high-profile artists in the studio
Gear & workflow preferences – Why he sticks to SSL consoles & NS-10s
Adapting to the industry’s shift to digital & remote work
Navigating band dynamics & working with creative personalities
Dropping Out of School
Starting as a Janitor
Links and Show Notes:Mike's WebsiteMatt's Rant: Reignite the Spark!Credits:
Guest: Mike Fraser
Host/Engineer/Editor/Producer: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
The Voice: Chuck Smith

Feb 25, 2025 • 59min
WCA #532 with George Bokos –Studios In Athens, Nap Time, Working With Remote Clients, and Sunlight Over Isolation
In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes George Bokos who runs Grind House Studios Athens in Athens, Greece. George has worked with numerous bands including ALL SINS UNDONE, CALYCES, COSTIN CHIOREANU, and BLACK KAISER.In This Episode, We Discuss:
From Musician to Studio Owner
Studios In Athens
Working With Remote Clients
Working with Drummers
Nap Time in Athens
Sunlight Over Isolation
Choosing Gear That Makes an Imapct
Being Part of The Team
Links and Show Notes:Grind House Studios AthensMatt's Rant: 30 Second Burst MethodCredits:
Guest: George Bokos
Host/Engineer/Producer/Editing: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
The Voice: Chuck Smith

Feb 17, 2025 • 1h 10min
WCA #531 with Travis Ference– LA Fires, Rebuilding a Studio, Insurance Lessons, Backup Strategies & Community Support
In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes back producer, engineer, and mixer Travis Ference who has worked worked on projects for Imagine Dragons, John Mayer, Ariana Grande, and Bush, to name a few. Travis is also the host of the podcast Progressions: Success in the Music Industry.Travis recently lost his studio in the fires in Altadena and this episode is all about that. In This Episode, We Discuss:
The LA fire’s impact on Travis’s home and studio
The challenges of rebuilding after disaster
Community support in times of crisis
Key lessons on insurance and coverage gaps
Backup strategies for audio professionals
Using AI and cloud services for recovery
Planning a flexible studio rebuild
First responders and aid efforts
Protecting your gear, business, and home
Links and Show Notes:
Travis's site
Travis's podcast
https://musicares.org/
https://www.wearemovingtheneedle.org/
Matt’s Rant: Planning for The WorstCredits:
Guest: Travis Ference
Host/Engineer/Editing/Producer: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
The Voice: Chuck Smith

Feb 11, 2025 • 59min
WCA #530 with Justin Perkins – Mastering, Client Experience, Data Archival & Backup, Automation & Templates and Streamlined Communication
In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes Mastering Engineer Justin Perkins who has worked with The Replacements, Rufus Wainwright, En Vogue, Ol’ Dirty Bastard, Shania Twain, Jellyfish, Johnny Cash, The All-American Rejects, Rickie Lee Jones, Donna Summer, Busta Rhymes, Jason Mraz, Lucero, Hanson, New Kids on the Block , Sum 41, AsiaJustin Perkins' success as a mastering engineer is not solely based on his audio skills but also on his meticulous approach to business operations. His emphasis on automation, client communication, and data management provides valuable lessons for anyone in the audio industry seeking to optimize their workflow and deliver exceptional service.In This Episode, We Discuss:
Streamlined Project Intake & Communication
Automation & Templates
Client Experience
Mastering Workflow & Tools
Data Archival & Backup
Links and Show Notes:
Justin's Site
WaveLab: Mastering software.
iZotope RX: Audio repair and quality control.
Samply: Lossless audio delivery and approval platform. Use Code WCA20
OmniFocus: Task management software.
Backblaze: Cloud backup service.
NeoFinder: Hard drive cataloging software.
Thunder Bay 8 and Mini 4 (OWC): External hard drive enclosures.
Carbon Copy Cloner: Backup software.
Matt's Rant: Piggy Backing off of VictoryCredits:
Guest: Justin Perkins
Host/Engineer/Editing/Producer: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
The Voice: Chuck Smith

Feb 4, 2025 • 1h 11min
WCA #529 with David Stagl – Worship Sound, Broadcast, Bruce Springsteen, Live Sound Mistakes, and Feedback City
In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes Mixing Engineer David Stagl who has worked on projects for or with North Point Community Church, Christ Fellowship(West Palm Beach, FL), Eagle Brook Church (Minneapolis, MN), musical artists: Kristian Stanfill, Jesus Culture, Passion, Phil Keaggy, North Point Music and in broadcast: Discovery Channel, HGTV. Corporate: Home Depot, Wyndham Vacations, and Motorola.In This Episode, We Discuss:
Post Production
Broadcast
Audio Books
Worship Sound
Dolby ATMOS
Live Sound Mistakes
Audio Professionals in Religious Settings
Immersive Audio for Churches
Worship Audio Challenges and Solutions
North Point Church
Links and Show Notes:David's SiteMatt's Rant: Humility in AudioCredits:
Guest: David Stagl
Host/Engineer/Editor/Producer: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
The Voice: Chuck Smith