Working Class Audio

Working Class Audio
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Aug 5, 2025 • 59min

WCA #555 with Pierre de Reeder – Rilo Kiley, LA Survival, 64 Sound, and A New Studio Business Model

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes producer/engineer/musician Pierre de Reeder. Pierre owns and runs 64 Sound and is a member of the band Rilo Kiley. In This Episode, We Discuss:Rilo KileyLA Survival64 SoundDave TrumfioRecording on 8 Track CassetteNew Studio Business ModelBonding with the LandlordThe HuntLinks and Show Notes:64 SoundKing Size Sound LabsRob Schnapf on WCAProfit First BookRilo Kiley on Apple MusicYou Are a Bad Ass at Making Money BookThe Psychology of MoneyMatt's Rant: Money TalkCredits:Guest: Pierre de ReederHost/Engineer/Producer: Matt BoudreauWCA Theme Music: Cliff TruesdellThe Voice: Chuck Smith
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Jul 28, 2025 • 58min

WCA #554 with Mark Pistel – Sampler Revolution, Disposable Heroes, Consolidated, Union Work, and Adapting to Industry Changes

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes engineer and producer Mark Pistel. His extensive credits include influential work with Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy and Consolidated, as well as notable collaborations with artists such as Meat Beat Manifesto, Grace Jones, Hercules and Love Affair, Chuck Prophet, Rykarda Parasol, Machines of Loving Grace, Holly Herndon, Los Mocosos, and many others.In This Episode, We Discuss:Growing up in DuluthVibrant San Francisco SceneSampler RevolutionDisposable Heroes Album ProductionJack DangersAdapting to Industry ChangesUnion WorkLinks and Show Notes:https://www.markpistel.comMatt's Rant: DifferencesCredits:Guest: Mark PistelHost/Engineer/Producer: Matt BoudreauWCA Theme Music: Cliff TruesdellThe Voice: Chuck Smith
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Jul 22, 2025 • 1h 1min

WCA #553 with Stefan Bock – Being Too Early, Inventions, Immersive Audio, Pure Audio Streaming, and the Value of Good Acoustics Spaces.

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes Engineer & Producer Stefan Bock. His credits include productions for Peter Maffay, Herbert Grönemeyer, Sarah Brightman, Yello, 2L, Berliner Philharmoniker and Deutsche Grammophon.Due to his expertise in the field of immersive audio, Stefan Bock is a renown speaker at international congresses, including those of the Audio Engineering Society and the Association of German Sound Engineers. He is also a regular lecturer at the ARD.ZDF Medienakademie.In This Episode, We Discuss:Being Too EarlyInventionsImmersive AudioPure Audio StreamingMSM StudiosThe Beauty of NicheGood AcousticsLinks and Show Notes:Pure Audio StreamingMSM StudiosMatt's Rant: Nerd GroupsCredits:Guest: Stefan BockHost/Engineer/Producer: Matt BoudreauWCA Theme Music: Cliff TruesdellThe Voice: Chuck Smith
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Jul 15, 2025 • 1h 7min

WCA #552 with Daniel Holter – Studio Aesthetics, Hospitality, Presentation, Relationships, and Cashflow

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes back producer, mixer, composer and songwriter Daniel Holter. Daniel first appeared in 2018 on WCA Episode #179. Over the years, Daniel has mixed music by artists such as Nick Lowe, Field Report, Over The Rhine, Amos Lee, Blitzen Trapper, Collections of Colonies of Bees, Phil Keaggy, Crowded House, Dead Horses, WebsterX, and Ryan Higa. He’s also composed and/or produced thousands of cues currently being used by such varied clients as Apple, Nike, Google, Microsoft, GM & Gatorade, virtually all of the top shows on HBO, ESPN, CBS, ABC, NBC, Fox, and all across the globe in tv, radio, advertisements, video games and film.In This Episode, We Discuss:Studio AestheticsHospitalityMaking Artists Feel at HomeTHUD StudiosRelationshipsCashflowSeattleFamily BusinessCandlesLinks and Show Notes:Daniel on WCA #179The Candles! (discount Applied on Checkout)THUD StudioMatt's Rant: The CurseCredits:Guest: Daniel HolterHost/Engineer/Producer: Matt BoudreauWCA Theme Music: Cliff TruesdellThe Voice: Chuck Smith
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Jul 7, 2025 • 1h 19min

WCA #551 with Dane Giordano – Sun Studio, Steve Albini's Kindness, Financial Discipline, and Diversifying Services

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes Engineer and Composer Dane Giordano who has engineered artists for Warner, Sony and Universal Music Group. Dane has composed music for Film, Video Games, Television and more! He is also one of the House Engineers at Young Avenue Sound & Sun Studio.In This Episode, We Discuss:First Studio ExperienceTouring Survival MethodsBad Engineer ExperiencesPositive Studio ExperiencesFlat RatesEngineering Transition Sun Studio Electrical Audio InternshipSteve Albini's KindnessProfessional Studio HabitsEmbrace Beginner MindsetClients By Word-Of-MouthFinancial Discipline Diversifying ServicesLinks and Show Notes:Dane's SiteMatt's Rant: Session Documentation in the 21st CenturyCredits:Guest: Dane GiordanoHost/Engineer/Producer: Matt BoudreauWCA Theme Music: Cliff TruesdellThe Voice: Chuck Smith
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Jun 30, 2025 • 1h 1min

WCA #550 with Justin Francis – Remote Studio Benefits, Nashville Efficiency, Beyond Music Row, and Navigating Payment Ethics

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes Grammy WInning Producer/engineer/mixer, Justin Francis who has worked alongside artists like Sheryl Crow, Kacey Musgraves, Tyler Childers, Lake Street Dive, Justin Timberlake, Madison Cunningham, Gary Clark Jr, Sarah Jarosz and Lauren Daigle.In This Episode, We Discuss:Early Music PassionAudio Production PathStudio ImmersionFormal Audio TrainingNashville Career GrowthEfficient Studio CultureNavigating Payment EthicsCommunity Client InsightsNashville's "Clicky" NatureRemote Studio BenefitsBeyond Music RowLinks and Show Notes:Justin's SiteMatt's Rant: SimplificationCredits:Guest: Justin FrancisHost/Engineer/Producer: Matt BoudreauWCA Theme Music: Cliff TruesdellThe Voice: Chuck Smith
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Jun 24, 2025 • 1h 2min

WCA #549 with Ian Shepherd – Mastering Democratized, AI, Physical or Virtual Gear, and Empty Nests

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes back mastering engineer and host of The Mastering Show, Ian Shepherd. They dive into the current state of mastering, AI’s growing role, work/life balance, and in-the-box vs. out-of-the-box mastering.In This Episode, We Discuss:Companion podcast episodeAdvances in mastering technologyThe rise of AI masteringShift toward releasing singlesImpact of social mediaMastering now democratizedLower barrier to entryAI lacks human contextAI results often bland/genericHumans provide taste and nuanceNetworking challenges in rural areasTechnology removes many practical limitsCareer hasn’t suffered despite changesFacing an empty nest soonFocus on intentional, joyful workKnown as the "loudness guy"Links and Show Notes:Ian's 100th episodeIan on WCA #132Matt's Rant: Building ThingsCredits:Guest: Ian ShepherdHost/Engineer/Producer: Matt BoudreauWCA Theme Music: Cliff TruesdellThe Voice: Chuck Smith
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Jun 17, 2025 • 1h 11min

WCA #548 with Dan Malsch – Touring Guitarist to Full-Time Engineer, Building a Studio Career, Mixing Ghost, Working with Andy Wallace, and Running a Successful Studio Outside the Big Cities

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes producer and mixer Dan Malsch to discuss his journey from guitarist to studio owner, working with bands like Ghost and Avenged Sevenfold, building studios with his own hands, and maintaining a no-ego approach to recording at the highest level.In This Episode, We Discuss:Dan Malsch’s Journey From Guitarist to Music ProducerExplore how Dan transitioned from touring with his metal band Wicked Mariah to becoming a full-time producer and mix engineer.Building and Running a Professional Recording StudioLearn how Dan used his construction background to build a world-class recording studio in the Poconos from the ground up.Working With Major Artists Like Ghost and Avenged SevenfoldDan shares behind-the-scenes stories of working with chart-topping rock and metal bands including Ghost, Avenged Sevenfold, and Gojira.Mixing in Dolby AtmosGet insight into how Dan created an Atmos mix room in two weeks and how he mixed Ghost's Impera and Skeletor albums in Dolby Atmos.Collaborating With Legendary Mixer Andy WallaceHear how a chance meeting led to a close working relationship with Andy Wallace and how that partnership elevated Dan’s career.Running a Successful Studio in a Secondary MarketDiscover how Dan attracts big-name clients to his Pennsylvania studio without being based in LA, Nashville, or New York.How to Maintain Long-Term Clients as a Music ProducerDan discusses how professionalism, personal communication, and trust help him retain high-profile clients year after year.Balancing Studio Life and Family LifeHear how Dan prioritized being present for his family while running a busy studio and raising two kids.Links and Show Notes:Dan's StudioIMSRV Studio In StockholmAdvice from Robert Diniro videoMatt's Rant: PersistenceCredits:Guest: Dan MalschHost/Engineer/Producer: Matt BoudreauWCA Theme Music: Cliff TruesdellThe Voice: Chuck Smith
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Jun 10, 2025 • 1h

WCA #547 with Lij Shaw – Friendship, Communication, Collaboration, Mixing, and Time Management

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes back producer, engineer, songwriter and host of Recording Studio Rockstars Lij Shaw.In This Episode, We Discuss:Friendship & CommunicationStudio & WorkspaceCosta Rica TripMusic & ProductionCollaboration & MixingIdentity & RolesTime ManagementLinks and Show Notes:Recording Studio RockstarsChris Chamness (Matt & Lij colab)Matt's Rant: BarriersCredits:Guest: Lij ShawHost/Engineer/Producer: Matt BoudreauWCA Theme Music: Cliff TruesdellThe Voice: Chuck Smith
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Jun 2, 2025 • 1h 16min

WCA #546 with Elad Marish –Surf Culture, The Magic of KISS, Guitar Obsession, Post Production Powerhouse, and The Growth of Swell

In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes Elad Marish, co-founder and producer at Swell Music + Sound, a leading creative audio agency based in San Francisco. Elad and his team at Swell have brought music, sound design, and audio branding to high-profile clients including Apple, Nike, Google, and Uber, working on everything from global ad campaigns to immersive brand experiences.In This Episode, We Discuss:The Magic of KISSWearing Out Record NeedlesHating PianoSurf CultureGuitar ObsessionEarly ParenthoodPainful Band ExperiencesPost Production PowerhouseGrowing Swell SoundNavigating COVIDStaying LeanLinks and Show Notes:Swell Elad on LinkedinMatt's Rant: Getting Some SpaceCredits:Guest: Elas MarishHost/Engineer/Producer: Matt BoudreauWCA Theme Music: Cliff TruesdellThe Voice: Chuck Smith

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