
Working Class Audio
Peel back the glamour of the professional recording world. Guests from the world of audio for music, film, games, restoration, and more share their insights on how they made their journey, how they survive, their advice on the real things including wins, losses, working with other people, money, and career advice. Hosted by audio engineer Matt Boudreau.The Working Class Audio Podcast - Navigating the World of Recording with a working class perspective.
Latest episodes

Feb 11, 2025 • 1h 1min
WCA #530 with Justin Perkins – Mastering, Client Experience, Data Archival & Backup, Automation & Templates and Streamlined Communication
In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes Mastering Engineer Justin Perkins who has worked with The Replacements, Rufus Wainwright, En Vogue, Ol’ Dirty Bastard, Shania Twain, Jellyfish, Johnny Cash, The All-American Rejects, Rickie Lee Jones, Donna Summer, Busta Rhymes, Jason Mraz, Lucero, Hanson, New Kids on the Block , Sum 41, AsiaJustin Perkins' success as a mastering engineer is not solely based on his audio skills but also on his meticulous approach to business operations. His emphasis on automation, client communication, and data management provides valuable lessons for anyone in the audio industry seeking to optimize their workflow and deliver exceptional service.In This Episode, We Discuss:
Streamlined Project Intake & Communication
Automation & Templates
Client Experience
Mastering Workflow & Tools
Data Archival & Backup
Links and Show Notes:
Justin's Site
WaveLab: Mastering software.
iZotope RX: Audio repair and quality control.
Samply: Lossless audio delivery and approval platform. Use Code WCA20
OmniFocus: Task management software.
Backblaze: Cloud backup service.
NeoFinder: Hard drive cataloging software.
Thunder Bay 8 and Mini 4 (OWC): External hard drive enclosures.
Carbon Copy Cloner: Backup software.
Matt's Rant: Piggy Backing off of VictoryCredits:
Guest: Justin Perkins
Host/Engineer/Editing/Producer: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
The Voice: Chuck Smith

Feb 4, 2025 • 1h 13min
WCA #529 with David Stagl – Worship Sound, Broadcast, Bruce Springsteen, Live Sound Mistakes, and Feedback City
In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes Mixing Engineer David Stagl who has worked on projects for or with North Point Community Church, Christ Fellowship(West Palm Beach, FL), Eagle Brook Church (Minneapolis, MN), musical artists: Kristian Stanfill, Jesus Culture, Passion, Phil Keaggy, North Point Music and in broadcast: Discovery Channel, HGTV. Corporate: Home Depot, Wyndham Vacations, and Motorola.In This Episode, We Discuss:
Post Production
Broadcast
Audio Books
Worship Sound
Dolby ATMOS
Live Sound Mistakes
Audio Professionals in Religious Settings
Immersive Audio for Churches
Worship Audio Challenges and Solutions
North Point Church
Links and Show Notes:David's SiteMatt's Rant: Humility in AudioCredits:
Guest: David Stagl
Host/Engineer/Editor/Producer: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
The Voice: Chuck Smith

Jan 28, 2025 • 54min
WCA #528 with NAMM 2025 – Community, Gear We Saw, Companies We Like, Seminars, Good Shoes, and Drinking Water
In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt is joined by Chris Selim from Mixdown Online and Lij Shaw from Recording Studio Rockstars to discuss our NAMM 2025 experience.In This Episode, We Discuss:
Wearing Good Shoes
Drinking Water
Community
Gear We Saw
Companies We Like
Seminars at NAMM
Podcaster and YouTuber Things
Links and Show Notes:
https://gracedesign.com/
https://gracedesign.com/product/m900-...
https://www.audio-scape.com/
https://korneffaudio.com/plugins/
https://www.soundtoys.com/
https://microkits.net/
https://www.musikhack.com/
https://blinq.me/
Matt's Rant: Connecting With People At NAMMCredits:
Guest: NAMM 2025
Host/Engineer/Editor/Producer: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
The Voice: Chuck Smith

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Jan 20, 2025 • 1h 5min
WCA #527 with Owen Davies – Studio Design, Recording Everything, Tap Dancing, and Building THE Home Studio
Owen Davies, an engineer and producer based in Staffordshire, UK, shares insights from his journey building a home studio. He discusses the creative and logistical challenges of studio design, emphasizing the need for expert guidance. Owen also touches on the importance of valuing audio work and charging clients appropriately. In a lighter moment, he recounts his unique experiences with tap dancing and navigating legal battles. The conversation highlights the interplay between passion projects and freelance work in the evolving music scene.

Jan 14, 2025 • 1h 19min
WCA #526 with Adam Haggar – Los Angeles Life, New Jersey Living, The Importance Of Networking, Maintaining High Standards, and a Passion For Music
In this engaging chat, mastering engineer Adam Haggar, who has collaborated with artists like Migos and Belinda Carlisle, shares his inspiring journey from New Jersey to Los Angeles. He emphasizes the importance of networking and maintaining high standards in a competitive industry. Adam discusses the challenges of fair pricing in mastering and how staying connected to one’s musical passion fuels creativity. His personal anecdotes about transitioning between East Coast and West Coast music scenes provide valuable insights for aspiring audio professionals.

Jan 6, 2025 • 54min
WCA #525 with The Pellicci Brothers – Shared Commitment, Creative Collaboration, Cultural Influence, Literal Creativity, and Burlap
In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes back the Pellicci Brothers, Jay and Ian, who appeared originally on WCA #054. They have worked with Deerhoof, John Vanderslice, Sleater-Kinney, and the Magnetic Fields.They currently run Brothers (Chinese) Recording in the Bay Area.In This Episode, We Discuss:
Challenges in Naming
Unintentional Uniformity
Studio History
Literal Creativity
Creative Decision Making
Not Planning
Studio Projects
Burlap
Links and Show Notes:
Brothers (Chinese) Recording
WCA #057 with The Pellicci Brothers
Matt's Rant: IdentityCredits:
Guest: The Pellicci Brothers
Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
The Voice: Chuck Smith

Dec 29, 2024 • 1h 23min
WCA #524 with Michael Romanowski – Immersive Audio, Critical Listening, Value Of Community, and The Dangers of Comparison
In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes back Grammy Winning mastering engineer, Michael Romanowski. Michael’s extensive credits include Alicia Keys, Bonnie Raitt, Lyle, Lovett, Earth Wind & Fire, Kane Brown, and the Grateful Dead.In This Episode, We Discuss:
Studio Acoustics
Immersive Audio Advocacy
Future Of Immersive Audio
Value Of Community Collaboration
Critical Listening Skills
Balancing Artistic Vision With Label Demands
Bass Management Challenges In Immersive Audio
Consumer Perceptions Of Immersive Audio
Role Of VR And AR In Audio Localization
The Dangers of Comparison
Links and Show Notes:
Michael's Studio
Michael on WCA #309
Matt's Rant: Year End ReviewCredits:
Guest: Michael Romanowski
Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
The Voice: Chuck Smith

Dec 22, 2024 • 1h 2min
WCA #523 with Lizzie Westsmith – Role of a Monitor Engineer, Touring Life Balance, Community, and 924 Gilman Influence
In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes monitor engineer Lizzie Westsmith who has worked for numerous bands and sound companies including Rancid, Ice Spice, Rat Sound and Coachella. Lizzie shares her journey from discovering her love for audio at Berkeley's iconic Gilman Street to navigating the challenges of the live production industry.In This Episode, We Discuss:
Role of a Monitor Engineer
Maintaining Personal Balance
924 Gilman Influence
Addiction and Recovery
Rate Transparency
Touring Life Balance
Systems Engineering Goals
Financial Management Strategies
Community and Respect
Links and Show Notes:Lizzie on InstagramMatt's Rant: Parlay, Pivot and Change CourseCredits:
Guest: Lizzie Westsmith
Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
The Voice: Chuck Smith

Dec 17, 2024 • 1h 10min
WCA #522 with Ed Donnelly – Independent Mindset, Live Recording, Indie Bands, Immersive Audio and Inspiration
In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes Producer/Engineer Ed Donnelly, who has worked with Willie Nelson, Zac Brown, Old 97s, Son Volt, Del McCoury, Nathan Jacques, Lorin Hart, Cole Gallagher, The Lonesome Captain, Trent Summar & The New Row MobIn This Episode, We Discuss:
Musical Journey and Career
Live Event Recording Journey
Journey From Performer to Producer
Independent Artist Budget Challenges
Managing Budgets in Independent Bands
Music Industry Evolution and Strategy
Inspiration and Approaches in Work
Independent Artists and Audio Professionals
Immersive Audio Formats and Music
Links and Show Notes:Ed's StudioMatt's Rant: Revisiting Community
Credits:
Guest: Ed Donnelly
Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
The Voice: Chuck Smith

Dec 9, 2024 • 1h 13min
WCA #521 with Maor Appelbaum – Genre-Specific Mastering, Creating Analog Hardware, Building Client Relationships, and Being Part of the Team
In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes back mastering engineer Maor Appelbaum (originally on WCA #062)to discuss his career, his approach to mastering across genres, and how he adapts to new technology. Maor has worked on projects for artists such as Faith No More, Yes, and Meat Loaf.In This Episode, We Discuss:
Genre-specific mastering approaches
Creating and collaborating on new analog hardware
Strategies for effective client communication
Building and maintaining long-term professional relationships
The value of being part of a collaborative team in the audio process
Links and Show Notes:
Maor Appelbaum Mastering
WCA #062 with Maor Appelbaum
Matt's Rant: The Value of Independent Clients
Credits:
Guest: Maor Appelbaum
Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
The Voice: Chuck Smith
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