

Working Class Audio
Working Class Audio
The Working Class Audio Podcast pulls back the curtain on the professional recording world. Host and audio engineer Matt Boudreau talks with guests from music, film, games, restoration, and beyond—diving into their real-world journeys. No fluff, just honest conversations about the wins, losses, money, collaboration, and survival strategies that define a career in audio. It's recording life from a working class perspective.
Episodes
Mentioned books

Aug 26, 2025 • 1h 19min
WCA #558 with Ady Parzentny – Barcelona, Artist Support, Studio Connections, and the Audio Nomad Book
In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes back Ady Parzentny. Adrian Parzentny is a German‒Polish music producer, audio engineer, and creative adventurer. With over 13 years of travel and music production experience, Adrian has recorded traditional musicians across Morocco, the Sahara Desert, and beyond — often in remote villages, mountain ranges, and DIY setups built inside vans and hotel rooms.
In This Episode, We Discuss:
Barcelona move
Audio Nomad book
Studio connections
Modeling
Freelance audio
Travel recording
Gear philosophy
Artist support
Music mediums
Authentic living
Intuition guides
Links and Show Notes:
Get the book!
Listen to Ady on WCA #468
Matt's Rant: More Discipline
Credits:
Guest: Ady Parzentny
Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
The Voice: Chuck Smith

Aug 18, 2025 • 1h 7min
WCA #557 with Assaad Lakkis– Bullfunk Studios, Financial Realities, Continuous Learning, Perseverance, and Mental Health
In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes producer, engineer, and musician Assaad Lakkis, the creative force behind Bull Funk Zoo and owner of Bull Funk Studios in Dubai. Assad’s career blends boundary-pushing rock, funk, and experimental sounds with his work producing and recording artists from around the world, making him a central figure in the Middle Eastern music scene.
In This Episode, We Discuss:
The Bullfunk Identity
Time in the US
Bullfunk Studios
Learning and Mentorship
First Studio Challenges
Job Market in Dubai
Current Home Studio
Financial Realities
Client Acquisition
Diversified Income
Continuous Learning
Perseverance
Mental Health
Matt's Rant: Self-employed discipline
Links and Show Notes:
Bull Funk Zoo: https://www.bullfunkzoo.com/
Bull Funk Studios: https://bullfunkstudios.com/
Bull Fuunk Zoo on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BullFunkZoo/videos
Credits:
Guest: Assaad Lakkis
Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
The Voice: Chuck Smith

Aug 12, 2025 • 1h 14min
WCA #556 with Toby Lloyd– Working in Film, Returning to Music, New Zealand Scene, Being a Good Dad, and The Morning Cold Plunge
In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes producer, engineer, mixer, Toby Lloyd who runs Tiny Triumph Recordings in Wellington, New Zealand. Toby's career spans working in film (The Hobbit Trilogy, Avatar, Mortal Engines) as well as music by playing a central role in the New Zealand Music world.
In This Episode, We Discuss:
Producing And Mixing Music
Rooftop Recording Studio
Meditation And Cold Plunge
Punk Rock Beginnings
110 Studio Rejections
Sound Recordist On The Hobbit
Learning In Collaboration
Eight Years In Film
University Studio Engineer
Full-Time Music Producer
Intimate Studio Design
New Studio Lease
Parenting Five Children
Artist Relationship Building
Financial Discipline Strategy
Wellington Music Challenges
Safe Space For Artists
Staying In New Zealand
Stories Of Perseverance
Links and Show Notes:
Toby's Studio
Matt's Rant: A Brainstorm
Credits:
Guest: Toby Lloyd
Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
The Voice: Chuck Smith

Aug 5, 2025 • 59min
WCA #555 with Pierre de Reeder – Rilo Kiley, LA Survival, 64 Sound, and A New Studio Business Model
In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes producer/engineer/musician Pierre de Reeder. Pierre owns and runs 64 Sound and is a member of the band Rilo Kiley.
In This Episode, We Discuss:
Rilo Kiley
LA Survival
64 Sound
Dave Trumfio
Recording on 8 Track Cassette
New Studio Business Model
Bonding with the Landlord
The Hunt
Links and Show Notes:
64 Sound
Rilo Kiley
King Size Sound Labs
Rob Schnapf on WCA
Profit First Book
You Are a Bad Ass at Making Money Book
The Psychology of Money
Matt's Rant: Money Talk
Credits:
Guest: Pierre de Reeder
Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
The Voice: Chuck Smith

Jul 28, 2025 • 57min
WCA #554 with Mark Pistel – Sampler Revolution, Disposable Heroes, Consolidated, Union Work, and Adapting to Industry Changes
In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes engineer and producer Mark Pistel. His extensive credits include influential work with Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy and Consolidated, as well as notable collaborations with artists such as Meat Beat Manifesto, Grace Jones, Hercules and Love Affair, Chuck Prophet, Rykarda Parasol, Machines of Loving Grace, Holly Herndon, Los Mocosos, and many others.
In This Episode, We Discuss:
Growing up in Duluth
Vibrant San Francisco Scene
Sampler Revolution
Disposable Heroes Album Production
Jack Dangers
Adapting to Industry Changes
Union Work
Links and Show Notes:
https://www.markpistel.com
Matt's Rant: Differences
Credits:
Guest: Mark Pistel
Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
The Voice: Chuck Smith

Jul 22, 2025 • 1h 1min
WCA #553 with Stefan Bock – Being Too Early, Inventions, Immersive Audio, Pure Audio Streaming, and the Value of Good Acoustics Spaces.
In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes Engineer & Producer Stefan Bock. His credits include productions for Peter Maffay, Herbert Grönemeyer, Sarah Brightman, Yello, 2L, Berliner Philharmoniker and Deutsche Grammophon.
Due to his expertise in the field of immersive audio, Stefan Bock is a renown speaker at international congresses, including those of the Audio Engineering Society and the Association of German Sound Engineers. He is also a regular lecturer at the ARD.ZDF Medienakademie.
In This Episode, We Discuss:
Being Too Early
Inventions
Immersive Audio
Pure Audio Streaming
MSM Studios
The Beauty of Niche
Good Acoustics
Links and Show Notes:
Pure Audio Streaming
MSM Studios
Matt's Rant: Nerd Groups
Credits:
Guest: Stefan Bock
Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
The Voice: Chuck Smith

Jul 15, 2025 • 1h 7min
WCA #552 with Daniel Holter – Studio Aesthetics, Hospitality, Presentation, Relationships, and Cashflow
In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes back producer, mixer, composer and songwriter Daniel Holter. Daniel first appeared in 2018 on WCA Episode #179. Over the years, Daniel has mixed music by artists such as Nick Lowe, Field Report, Over The Rhine, Amos Lee, Blitzen Trapper, Collections of Colonies of Bees, Phil Keaggy, Crowded House, Dead Horses, WebsterX, and Ryan Higa. He’s also composed and/or produced thousands of cues currently being used by such varied clients as Apple, Nike, Google, Microsoft, GM & Gatorade, virtually all of the top shows on HBO, ESPN, CBS, ABC, NBC, Fox, and all across the globe in tv, radio, advertisements, video games and film.
In This Episode, We Discuss:
Studio Aesthetics
Hospitality
Making Artists Feel at Home
THUD Studios
Relationships
Cashflow
Seattle
Family Business
Candles
Links and Show Notes:
Daniel on WCA #179
The Candles! (discount Applied on Checkout)
THUD Studio
Matt's Rant: The Curse
Credits:
Guest: Daniel Holter
Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
The Voice: Chuck Smith

Jul 7, 2025 • 1h 19min
WCA #551 with Dane Giordano – Sun Studio, Steve Albini's Kindness, Financial Discipline, and Diversifying Services
In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes Engineer and Composer Dane Giordano who has engineered artists for Warner, Sony and Universal Music Group. Dane has composed music for Film, Video Games, Television and more! He is also one of the House Engineers at Young Avenue Sound & Sun Studio.
In This Episode, We Discuss:
First Studio Experience
Touring Survival Methods
Bad Engineer Experiences
Positive Studio Experiences
Flat Rates
Engineering Transition
Sun Studio
Electrical Audio Internship
Steve Albini's Kindness
Professional Studio Habits
Embrace Beginner Mindset
Clients By Word-Of-Mouth
Financial Discipline
Diversifying Services
Links and Show Notes:
Dane's Site
Matt's Rant: Session Documentation in the 21st Century
Credits:
Guest: Dane Giordano
Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
The Voice: Chuck Smith

Jun 30, 2025 • 1h
WCA #550 with Justin Francis – Remote Studio Benefits, Nashville Efficiency, Beyond Music Row, and Navigating Payment Ethics
In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes Grammy Winning Producer/engineer/mixer, Justin Francis who has worked alongside artists like Sheryl Crow, Kacey Musgraves, Tyler Childers, Lake Street Dive, Justin Timberlake, Madison Cunningham, Gary Clark Jr, Sarah Jarosz and Lauren Daigle.
In This Episode, We Discuss:
Early Music Passion
Audio Production Path
Studio Immersion
Formal Audio Training
Nashville Career Growth
Efficient Studio Culture
Navigating Payment Ethics
Community Client Insights
Nashville's "Clicky" Nature
Remote Studio Benefits
Beyond Music Row
Links and Show Notes:
Justin's Site
Matt's Rant: Simplification
Credits:
Guest: Justin Francis
Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
The Voice: Chuck Smith

Jun 24, 2025 • 1h 1min
WCA #549 with Ian Shepherd – Mastering Democratized, AI, Physical or Virtual Gear, and Empty Nests
In this episode of Working Class Audio, Matt welcomes back mastering engineer and host of The Mastering Show, Ian Shepherd. They dive into the current state of mastering, AI’s growing role, work/life balance, and in-the-box vs. out-of-the-box mastering.
In This Episode, We Discuss:
Companion podcast episode
Advances in mastering technology
The rise of AI mastering
Shift toward releasing singles
Impact of social media
Mastering now democratized
Lower barrier to entry
AI lacks human context
AI results often bland/generic
Humans provide taste and nuance
Networking challenges in rural areas
Technology removes many practical limits
Career hasn’t suffered despite changes
Facing an empty nest soon
Focus on intentional, joyful work
Known as the "loudness guy"
Links and Show Notes:
Ian's 100th episode
Ian on WCA #132
Matt's Rant: Building Things
Credits:
Guest: Ian Shepherd
Host/Engineer/Producer: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
The Voice: Chuck Smith