

Working Class Audio
Working Class Audio
The Working Class Audio Podcast pulls back the curtain on the professional recording world. Host and audio engineer Matt Boudreau talks with guests from music, film, games, restoration, and beyond—diving into their real-world journeys. No fluff, just honest conversations about the wins, losses, money, collaboration, and survival strategies that define a career in audio. It's recording life from a working class perspective.
Episodes
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Sep 26, 2022 • 1h 8min
WCA #406 with Joe Carrell - Owen & Bobby Bradley, Being Allowed to Fail, In The Hot Seat, Being on the Cusp of Change, and Helping People Have a Good Time
My guest is Grammy Nominated mixer, engineer, and producer Joe Carrell who has worked with Walt Disney, Chase Goehring, Jane Monheit, Birdland Jazz Club, Linda Lavin, and George Jones. Joe has had 11 Grammy Nominations and mixed/recorded 33 number ones in multiple genres. In this episode, we discuss:
Branson, Missouri
Treasure Ilse Studios
Southern Illinois
Early Music Lessons
Cheap Trick
School Band
Pursuing Studio Drumming
Jeff Porcaro
Recording Drums
The Other Side of The Glass
Owen & Bobby Bradly
Being Allowed to Fail
In The Hot Seat
Leaving the Nest
Moving to Nashville
Family of Four
Being on the Cusp of Change
Wayne Hahn
Relationships
Never Discuss Questionable Things
Being Professional & Neutral
Keeping Your Mouth Shut
Being Team Player
Being The Bright Spot
Attention to Detail
Helping People Have a Good Time
Financial Strategy
Saying No To Work
Matt's Rant: One Mic RecordingLinks and Show Notes
OneMic Series
Joe's Site
Download 15 Tips to Help you Survive as an Audio Pro
Credits
Guest: Joe Carrell
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith
Sep 19, 2022 • 1h 11min
WCA #405 with Dan Johnson - Solving Archiving Puzzles, Burning Out, Rogue Tape Machines, Going Independent, and Not Cutting Corners
My guest is Audio Archivist Dan Johnson, who owns and runs Audio Archiving Services. Dan has worked with several well-known artists, including KISS, Jackson Browne, Jimi Hendrix Estate, WAR, TOOL, Duff McKagan, Aimee Man, Tommy Boy Records, Trust Records, Ansonia Records, Now-Again Records, Light In The Attic Records, ORG Records, Warner Bros, Universal, and Sony. In this episode, we discuss:
Rural Upbringing
Foreigner's "Hot Blooded"
Recording the Radio
Playing in Bands
Medical Records Work
Failed A&M Internship
Poor Brad
Working at Ocean Way
Friends with the Tech Staff
Surviving as a Runner
Thomas Maps and Pagers
No Guns at Capital
Burning Out
Cleaning Rat Traps
Working for Ikea
Living in a Closet
The Benefits of Capital
Going Independent
Audio Archiving
It's All About Friendships
Tape Triage
70 Hours a Week
Tape Machine Scarcity
Noahs Ark of Tape Machines
United Archiving
Not Cutting Corners
Solving Archiving Puzzles
Rogue Tape Machines
Rod Stewart Farting
Knocking Michael Jackson Down
Matt's Rant: Appreciating Our ToolsLinks and Show Notes
Dan's Site
Download 15 Tips to Help you Survive as an Audio Pro
Credits
Guest: Dan Johnson
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith
Sep 12, 2022 • 1h 1min
WCA #404 with Chris Clark - Playing Trombone, The Draw of Classical Music, The President's Own Marine Band, Classical Recording, Planning for Second Career, and the Perfect Guilt Trip.
My guest is Recording Engineer, Producer, and Trombonist, Chris Clark. Chris works with artists such as Jack Sutte, Thomas Circle Singers, Jonathan Bisesi, and The Lantana Trio on the recording side of things, but he also plays Trombone in The President's Own Marine Band. In this episode, we discuss:
Growing Up in Commerce, Texas
Playing Trombone
Listening to Dad's Vinyl Collection
Family Listening to Orchestral Music
Hiring an Outside Teacher
The Draw of Classical Music
Dad's Return to Music
The Perfect Guilt Trip
Curtis Institute of Music
Blind Auditions
Active Duty Marine
The President's Own Marine Band
Jumping Into Recording
Creating a Production Company
Classical Recording
Gear Used on Remotes
Planning for Second Career
Accepting Video
Working With Great Musicians
Source to Destination Editing
Insurance
Time Management
Matt's Rant: Whatever WorksLinks and Show Notes
Chris's Site
Insurance We Talked About CNA
Valor Brass album on Apple of Spotify:
Rachel Alina (teaches at Berklee)
Curtis Institute of Music
Download 15 Tips to Help you Survive as an Audio Pro
Credits
Guest: Chris Clark
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith
Sep 5, 2022 • 1h 15min
WCA #403 with Catherine Vericolli- Changing Audio Careers, Shifting Mindset, Learning on The Fly, 90's Digital Formats, and Archivists Anonymous
My guest is Catherine Vericolli, the Chief Transfer Engineer & Archive manager for Infrasonic Mastering. Catherine works on projects for Third Man, ORG Music, Oh Boy! Records, and Sun Records. This is Catherine's second appearance on the show. She originally appeared on WCA #035 in 2015.In this episode, we discuss:
Changing Audio Careers
Moving to Nashville
Moving Two Studios
Selling Her House
Getting Into Archiving
The Economics of Archiving
Nashville Recording Practices
Academia
Shifting Mindset
Getting Settled
Learning on The Fly
Comparing Stress in Audio Jobs
Play and Pray
90's Digital Formats
World War 2 and Tape
Archivists Anonymous
Prosumer Audio
ATMOS
MONO
Will The Transfer Work Runout?
The Dixie Cups
Matt's Rant: Let's Read a Letter Links and Show Notes
Transfers and Archival at Infrasonic
JRF Magnetics
The Dixie Cups "Chapel of Love"
Download 15 Tips to Help you Survive as an Audio Pro
Credits
Guest: Catherine Vericolli
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith
Aug 29, 2022 • 1h 28min
WCA #402 with Arne Frager - The Plant Studios, Finding a Path to Recording, Studio on the Beach, Lessons for Aspiring Studio Owners, and the Best Gig He Never Did
My guest is Grammy-Winning producer and engineer Arne Frager. Arne is known for his run as owner/operator of The Plant Studios in Sausalito and his work with Paul McCartney, Prince, Beyonce, Michael Jackson, Santana, Dolly Parton, and Clare Fischer. In this episode, we discuss:
Growing up in Cleveland
Lifetime musician
Selling computer systems
Finding a path to recording
Recording in the 70s
Spectrum on the beach
Having no fallback, so you have to succeed
Ray Brown
Sony Digital 2 Track
George Winston
Eric Prestidge
Learning to survive
Mars Studios
Almost arrested for picking up gear
The best gig I never did
Al Schmitt
The story of The Plant
The Plant in the 90s
The dark times
Seeing mistakes from the past
Lawsuits against home studios
Lessons for aspiring studio owners
Matt's Rant: Book RecommendationsLinks and Show Notes
The Plant Studios
Franki Jupiter - Piece of Me
Download 15 Tips to Help you Survive as an Audio Pro
Credits
Guest: Arne Frager
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith
Aug 22, 2022 • 1h 21min
WCA #401 with Matt Wallace - Staying Visible in the Business, Crushing it with ATMOS, Keeping a Low Overhead, and the Importance of Alternative Income
My guest is Grammy-Winning producer, engineer, and mixer Matt Wallace. This is Matt's second appearance on the show, originally appearing on WCA #046. He has worked with Faith No More, Maroon 5, O.A.R., Dio, Tank and The Bangas, Replacements, Eric Gales, 3 Doors Down, Andy Grammer, Blackberry Smoke, Ludo, Train, Blues Traveler, Satchel, Mushroomhead, and I Prevail.In this episode, we discuss:
Status since the last episode
Difficulties in the industry
Challenges with ATMOS Legacy Mix
ATMOS and Apple, WTF?
Crushing it with ATMOS
Smart Speakers
Moving Towards the Future
What kept you in the business?
If you build it, they will come
Keeping low overhead
Musician first, construction second
Importance of Alternative Income
Staying Visible in the business
"Prodixing"
Band performance quality
ProTools - No need for those pesky chops
Studio Deluxe
Vibe is more important than gear
Studio space influences performance
Leaving the Bay Area
LA is the best place to make a record
Matt's Rant: Managing Your MoneyLinks and Show Notes
Matt's site
Matt on instagram
Download 15 Tips to Help you Survive as an Audio Pro
Credits
Guest: Matt Wallace
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith
Aug 15, 2022 • 59min
WCA #400 with David Hewitt - Car Racing, Recording Trucks, Dallas Summer Heat, and Recording the Stars in a Golden Era of Live Music
My guest is Grammy-Winning Remote Recording Engineer David Hewitt. David has worked with many artists, including, The Rolling Stones, Frank Zappa, U2, Bruce Springsteen, Miles Davis, Neil Young, The Who, Pavarotti, Simon and Garfunkel, Live Aid, Allman Brothers, Newport Jazz Festival, Aretha Franklin, Hall & Oates Bob Seger, Jackson Browne, and George Benson.David is also the father of former WCA guest and friend of the show, Ryann Hewitt. In this episode, we discuss:
Upbringing in Montana
Early Music Exposure as a Military Brat
Travel As a Way of Life
First Career in Car Racing
Struggling guitarist to punching the record button
First Recording Job at Regent Sound Studios
Adventure with Record Plant NY
Mahavishnu Orchestra
King Biscuit Flower Hour
Just Making Shit Work
Recording Aerosmith in the Dallas summer heat
Remote Recording Rates
Making a Living
Concert for NY after 9/11
David Bowie America
Remote recording vs. Studio recording
On the Road Book
Keeping the truck secure during a show
Financial Advice
Matt's Rant: Reflecting on 400 EpisodesLinks and Show Notes
David's Site and Book
Download 15 Tips to Help you Survive as an Audio Pro
Credits
Guest: David Hewitt
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith
Aug 8, 2022 • 1h 1min
WCA #399 with Dave Schiffman Part 2 - Mix Note Etiquette, The Journey of Creating a Studio, Deciding on ATMOS, Communication with Bands, and Evolving the Craft
Part 2 of my interview with Grammy Winning Producer/mixer and Engineer who has worked on projects for System of a Down, Audioslave, The Mars Volta, PUP, Johnny Cash, Tom Petty, Adele, Vampire Weekend, Cass Mccombs, Thrice, and Haim. In this episode, we discuss:
Parting Ways with Rick Rubin
Stellastarr
Role with Rick vs. Engineers
Dry vs. Wet
Mix Shootouts
Importance of Artist Feedback
Evolving the Craft
Keeping a Good Vibe
Dealing with Varying Personalities
Communication with Bands
Mix Note Etiquette
Mix Adjectives
The Journey of Creating a Studio
Deciding on ATMOS
Doing ATMOS That Makes Sense
Money and Engineering
Priorities on What You Really Need
Gear Should Be used, Not Just Displayed
Work-Life Balance
Only as Good as Your Last Credit
Matt's Rant: Inspiration from Outside the Audio WorldLinks and Show Notes
Dave's Site
Download 15 Tips to Help you Survive as an Audio Pro
ILM Documentary
Masterclass
How I Built This Podcast
Credits
Guest: Dave Schiffman
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith
Aug 1, 2022 • 53min
WCA #398 with Dave Schiffman Part 1 - Tape Copies, Chicken and Egg Issues, Lessons from Rick Rubin, The Land of Yes, and Not Being Tall Enough To Record
My guest is Grammy Winning Producer/mixer and Engineer who has worked on projects for System of a Down, Audioslave, The Mars Volta, PUP Johnny Cash, Tom Petty, Adele, Vampire Weekend, Cass Mccombs, Thrice, and Haim.In this episode, we discuss:
Giving Up Piano
Dad's Love of Big Band/Yacht Rock
Playing Trumpet
Marching Band
Not Being Tall Enough To Record
Following Credits on Albums
Making Tape Copies
Chicken and Egg Issues
Moving Up the Studio Ladder
Surviving on Tuna Fish Sandwiches
"Smoking Section" of Planes
Working at Ocean Way
Moving to LA from NY
Working with Rick Rubin
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Lessons from Rick Rubin
East Coast Honesty
The Land of Yes
Matt's Rant: Who are We Spending Time With?Links and Show Notes
Dave's Site
Dave on Instagram
Download 15 Tips to Help you Survive as an Audio Pro
Credits
Guest: Dave Schiffman
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith
Jul 25, 2022 • 53min
WCA #397 with Bryan Cook - Recording as An Exit Strategy, Chillin with Tom Dowd, Landing at A&M Studios, and Doing Non-Music Things
My guest is Grammy Nominated Mixing engineer Bryan Cook who has worked with U2, One Republic, Jeff Goldblum, and Switchfoot. In this episode, we discuss:
Early life in Philly
Studios - A thing that people did
Love for Jazz
Saxophone
Recording as an exit strategy
Bluejay Internship
Chillin with Tom Dowd
Ryan Hewitt
Deciding on a move to LA
Landing at A&M Studios
Moving up in the industry
Professionalism - Egos working together
Moving up the engineering ladder
Sensing upcoming burnout
Michael Andrews
Nobody likes the bad vibe guy
Walk Hard
Transitioning to flying solo
One Republic
How artists find an engineer
U2 project
Push them into the pool
Mixing from home
How to do pricing?
Handling disappointment
Ease with setup
Bounce Factory
Doing non-music things
Matt's Rant: Audio File ManagementLinks and Show Notes
Bryan's Site
Download 15 Tips to Help you Survive as an Audio Pro
Credits
Guest: Bryan Cook
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith


