

Working Class Audio
Working Class Audio
The Working Class Audio Podcast pulls back the curtain on the professional recording world. Host and audio engineer Matt Boudreau talks with guests from music, film, games, restoration, and beyond—diving into their real-world journeys. No fluff, just honest conversations about the wins, losses, money, collaboration, and survival strategies that define a career in audio. It's recording life from a working class perspective.
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Dec 4, 2022 • 57min
WCA #416 with Jez riley French - Listening Below the Surface, Contact Mics and Hydrophones, Traces, Swapping Cassettes, and Music Shop Blokes
My guest is Sound Artist Jez riley French. Jez is widely regarded as having played a pivotal role in expanding the use of contact microphones, hydrophones, electromagnetic coils, ultrasonic detectors, geophones, and VLF receivers in the sound arts, sound design (for the screen, theatre, and radio), and music in a wide range of contexts. His work has included commissions and performances for
Tate Modern (UK)
The Whitworth (UK)
Paradise Air (Japan)
MoT - Museum of Contemporary Art Tokyo (Japan)
Spikersuppa Lydgalleri, Oslo (Norway)
Baltic (UK)
Steklenik (Slovenia)
Museo Reina Sofia (Spain)
Catalyst Arts (N. Ireland)
Artisphere (USA)
Harpa (Iceland)
Mengi (Iceland)
The Wired Lab (Australia)
Mullae Art Space (Korea)
q-02 (Belgium)
In this episode, we discuss
Open Space of Yorkshire
New Wave and Punk
Sharp Recorder
Fascination with Listening
Sexism in Music
Discovering Contact Mics and Hydrophones
Listening Below the Surface
Pre-Internet Research
Music Shop Blokes
Swapping Cassettes
Feeling Right to Press Record
Traces
Setting up a Distribution Company
Durational Listening
The Emotion of Listening
Audio Memory
Recording Mediums
Sound Art
Making a Living
Field Recording Approaches
There Are No Rules
Influences
Matt's Rant: Holiday ResetLinks and Show Notes
Jez's Website
Pheobe riley Law
Credits
Guest: Jex riley French
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith

Nov 28, 2022 • 1h 11min
WCA #415 with David Kalmusky - Acid Dropping Hippies, Drum Lessons with Levon Helm, Advocating For Yourself, Addiction Studios, and Swinging the Bat Everyday
My guest is Grammy Nominated producer, engineer, session guitarist, and mixer David Kalmusky who has worked with Shawn Mendes, Carrie Underwood, Mötley Crue, Keith Urban, and Journey. In this episode, we discuss
Stratford, Ontario
The Band
The Rebels/The Hawks
Acid Dropping Hippies
Drum Lessons with Levon Helm
Guitar Lessons with John Till
Family Friends
Addiction Studios
Career Growth in Canada
First Nashville Session
International Conduits
Swinging the Bat Everyday
Focus on the Body of Work
Overnetworking
Mistakes
Experimenting on Your Own Time
Underground Echo Chamber
Building a Workshop
Advocating For Yourself
Social Media Restraint
Division in the Studio
Education
Matt's Rant: Rewriting Our Code From The GroundupLinks and Show Notes
Dave's studio
Dave's Site
Dave on Instagram
Credits
Guest: David Kalmusky
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith

Nov 21, 2022 • 1h 1min
WCA #414 with Todd Burke - One-Stoplight Towns, Grandmaster Studios, Cocaine Trafficking, Sleeping on a Gobo, The Social Aspects of Recording, and All About Relationships
My guest is Grammy Nominated Recording Engineer Todd Burke, who has worked with Ben Harper, Jack Johnson, The Kooks, Belle and Sebastian, M83, and Fitz and the Tantrums.In this episode, we discuss
One-Stoplight Towns
Colorado
Arizona
California
Conservatory of Arts and Sciences
Grandmaster Studios
Cocaine Trafficking
Sylvia Massey
Sleeping on a Gobo
Ben Harper
The Right Questions at The Right Time
The Social Aspect of Recording
Practicing on Downtime
Figuring Out Your Rate
All About Relationships
Record Better
Tony Hoffer
Affordable Tracking Needs
Enhanced Zoom Calls
Human Interaction
Matt's Rant: Working RemotelyLinks and Show Notes
Todd's Site
Todd on Instagram
Todd on TikTok
Record Better
Record Better on Instagram
Credits
Guest: Todd Burke
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith

Nov 14, 2022 • 53min
WCA #413 with Katie Tavini and Stephen Kerrison - Running a Virtual Mastering Facility, Sharing Knowledge, The Right Reasons, Social Media Preferences, and Imposter Syndrome.
My guests today are mastering engineers Katie Tavini and Stephen Kerrison, 2/3rds of the virtual mastering facility/collective, Weird Jungle. In this episode, we discuss
Running a Virtual Mastering Facility
Social Media Preferences
Quitting Archiving Job
Imposter Syndrome
Handling Attended Sessions
Liverpool Music Scene
Juggling Calendars
Love of Music
Sharing Knowledge
The Right Reasons
Rates
Matt's Rant: EnvelopingLinks and Show Notes
Weird Jungle Site
Katie's Site
Stephen's Site
Katie on Instagram
Stephen on Instagram
Weird Jungle on Instagram
Matt's Biz Bank Suggestion
Credits
Guest: Katie Tavini & Stephen Kerrison
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith

Nov 7, 2022 • 1h 8min
WCA #412 with Nathan Ruyle - Growing Up on a Farm, The Wild West, Sound for Film, Bootstrapping and Staying Nimble
My guest today is a Sound Designer / Re-recording Mixer and founder of This Is Sound Design in Burbank, California. Nathan's credits include Joyland - Cannes Jury Prize, Academy Awards, I Love My Dad - SXSW Jury & Audience Award, The Voyeurs - Amazon Studios United Skates - HBO, Academy Awards Short List Searching - Sony, Sundance.In this episode, we discuss
Growing up on a Farm
Scouting
Theater
Singing in Bands
Technology Exposure
Sound Design for Theater
Saint Louis
Cal Arts
Survival
Walt Disney
The Wild West
Coming to California
Building Studios
Making Your Own Way
The Film Industry
Analog vs. Digital Production
Studio Consolidation
NPR and Marketplace
Mixing Efficiency
Bootstrapping
Leasing to Own Gear
Indie Film
Staying Nimble
Financial Track Record
Matt's Rant: DetoursLinks and Show Notes
Nathan's Site
Nathan on Instagram
Quickbooks Online
Small Biz Help
Credits
Guest: Nathan Ruyle
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith

Oct 31, 2022 • 1h 23min
WCA #411 with James "Fluff" Harley - The Origin of Fluff, Hockeytown USA, Fear of the Unknown, Operating at a Top Level, and Surviving the Prince Bootcamp
My guest today is Engineer/Mixer James "Fluff" Harley, who has worked with KoRn, Prince, and Yumi Matsutoya. In this episode, we discuss
The Origin of Fluff
Hockeytown USA
Car Accident
Recording School
Fear of the Unknown
Craving Knowledge
Crazy Synchronizing
Operating at a Top Level
Tough Skin
Being a Facilitator
Magic in The Booth
Taking a Year Off
Moving to LA
Audio Test Kitchen
Los Angeles
Surviving the Prince Bootcamp
Making a Living
The Stress of the Music Biz
Getting up at 5 AM
Figuring Out What to be Paid
Working with Korn
Matt's Rant: Making Lists!Links and Show Notes
James on Instagram
Bryan Cook Episode
Alex Oana Episode
Chuck Zwicky Episode #1
Chuck Zwicky Episode #2
Chris Collier Episode
Nick Raskulinecz Episode
Dan Korneff Plugins
Credits
Guest: James "Fluff" Harley
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith

Oct 24, 2022 • 53min
WCA #410 The Impact of WCA Guests - The Emotion of A Mix, Field Recording, Backing Up and Archiving, The Cup Test, and the Many Lessons Learned.
Engineer, theatrical sound designer, and editor of WCA Anne-Marie Pleau joins Matt to discuss the impact that particular WCA guests have had on each of them.In this episode, we discuss
Michael Brauer
Jessica Thompson
George Vlad
Field Recording
Backing Up and Archiving
The Emotion of A Mix
Brian Charles
Saving Masters from a Fire
Tchad Blake
Leslie Braithwaite
Staying Steps Ahead
The Cup Test
Sara Carter
Getting into audio as an adult
Bryan Matheson
Dan Johnson
Working Your Say Up The Ladder
Survival
Andrew Scheps
Steve Albini
Piper Payne
Leslie Braithwaite
Matt's Rant: Dealing with BurnoutLinks and Show Notes
Michael Brauer #319
George Vlad #289
Jessica Thompson #080
Jessica Thompson #338
Steve Albini #164
Piper Payne #045
Piper Payne #251
Brian Charles #376
Tchad Blake #200
Andrew Scheps #009
Andrew Scheps #300
Sara Carter #194
Sara Carter #382
Bryan Matheson #380
Dan Johnson #405
Credits
Guest: Anne-Marie Pleau & Matt Boudreau
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith

Oct 17, 2022 • 56min
WCA #409 with Roy Silverstein - Golden Handcuffs, Burning Out on the Corporate Life, Building a Studio, Taking a Paycut, and No Regrets
My guest is Engineer and studio owner Roy Silverstein who has worked with Stephen El Rey, The Verigolds, The Finches, Matelotage, and Blue Largo. Roy owns Rarefied Recording in San Diego.In this episode, we discuss
Evanston, Illinois
The House Piano
Playing Guitar
University of Miami
Working for Qualcomm
Moonlighting as a Recording Engineer
Burning Out on the Corporate Life
Working with Wes Lachot
Building a Studio
Golden Handcuffs
Taking a Paycut
No Regrets
Looking Ahead
Neve Genesys
Marketing His Studio
Working with Interns
Matt's Rant: Doing It YourselfLinks and Show Notes
Roy's site
Roy on Instagram
Mckay Garner on WCA
Bryan Matheson on WCA
Microphone Parts
Redco
DIY RE
Acoustimac
ATS Acoustics
Download 15 Tips to Help you Survive as an Audio Pro
Credits
Guest: Roy Silverstein
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith

Oct 10, 2022 • 1h 14min
WCA #408 with Justin Cortelyou - Working with the Greats, Chuck Ainlay, Mike Shipley, Bob Ezrin, Soultrain Sound Studios, Family Time, and Meditation
My guest is Grammy Nominated Mixer/Engineer/Producer Justin Cortelyou, who has worked with Paul McCartney, Hollywood Vampires, Taylor Swift, Andrea Bocelli, Phish, The Darkness, Carrie Underwood, and Luke Bryan. In this episode, we discuss
Greensburg, PA
Playing Trombone
Youth Orchestra
Ibanez Guitars
Shred Metal
MTSU
How to Be a Good Assistant
Mr. Miyagi
Chuck Ainlay
Radar
Soundstage
Mike Shipley
Moving to LA
The Mutt Lang Editing Style
Surviving 2007
The Wall
Bob Ezrin
Quitting Bob
Soultrain Sound Studios
Family Time
Meditation
Matt's Rant: Using a Financial AdvisorLinks and Show Notes
Justin's Site
Justin's Studio
Instagram for Justin
Download 15 Tips to Help you Survive as an Audio Pro
Credits
Guest: Justin Cortelyou
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith
Oct 3, 2022 • 1h 4min
WCA #407 with Maryam Qudus - Pursuing Music, Transitioning to Recording, Spacemoth, The Role of Recording in Marriage, and So Much Coffee
My guest is Producer / Engineer / Mixer Maryam Qudus who has worked with Spellling, Toro y Moi, Sad13, Tune-Yards, and Zelma Stone. Maryam also writes, records, and produces music for her solo project Spacemoth and composes music for film on top of all that! In this episode, we discuss:
Growing up in the Bay Area
Parents from Afghanistan
Days in the Family Restaurant
The Role of Language
Pursuing Music
Stacking The Cheese
Singing on The Countertop
Recording at Tiny Telephone
Teaching
Transitioning to Recording
So Much Coffee
Women's Audio Mission
Surviving
The Joy of Recording
The Role of Recording in Marriage
Spacemoth
Matt's Rant: The Complexities of Selling GearLinks and Show Notes
Maryam's Site
Beau Sorenson (Maryam's Husband) on WCA
Women's Audio Mission
John Vanderslice on WCA
The Pellici Brothers on WCA
Download 15 Tips to Help you Survive as an Audio Pro
Credits
Guest: Maryam Qudus
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith


