

Working Class Audio
Working Class Audio
The Working Class Audio Podcast pulls back the curtain on the professional recording world. Host and audio engineer Matt Boudreau talks with guests from music, film, games, restoration, and beyond—diving into their real-world journeys. No fluff, just honest conversations about the wins, losses, money, collaboration, and survival strategies that define a career in audio. It's recording life from a working class perspective.
Episodes
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Jul 18, 2022 • 57min
WCA #396 with Nick Townsend - Punk Rock, Community College, Fishing, Mastering and Cutting Lacquers
My guest is Los Angeles-based mastering engineer Nick Townsend. Nick loves cutting Lacquers and has worked on releases by Cheap Trick, Weezer, Iron Maiden, Bad Religion, Garbage, Dr. Dre, 2Pac, Grimes, and more. Nick works at Infrasonic Sound.In this episode, we discuss:
Musical Household
Stoner Rock Uncle
Drums at Grandmas House
Punk Rock Bands
Catching the Recording Bug
Community College Recording Program
Pete Lyman
Mechanical Side of the Brain
Fishing
Clay Shooting
Outdoors Activities
Interning
Cutting Lacquers
Cutter Heads
Freelance Mastering
Infrasonic
Apollo Lacquers Fire
Matt's Rant: Audio DegreesLinks and Show Notes
Infrasonic Sound
WCA #306 with Dan Baccigalupi
WCA #261 with Dave Gardner
WCA #199 with Pete Lyman
WCA #251 with Piper Payne
Download 15 Tips to Help you Survive as an Audio Pro
Credits
Guest: Nick Townsend
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith
Jul 11, 2022 • 1h 5min
WCA #395 with Daniel Rowland - Rehab vs. College, MTSU, Adrian Belew, LANDR, and The ATMOS Gold Rush
My guest is Daniel Rowland, Head of Strategy and Partnerships at LANDR, Co-owner of Immersive Mixers, Professor at MTSU, and audio engineer. Daniel has worked with Nine Inch Nails, Adrian Belew, Disney, Pixar, David Foster, Star Wars, Marvel, DC Comics, Denzel Curry, Netflix, Fox, Flo Rida, Seal, and Phillip Glass. In this episode, we discuss:
Playing Guitar
Rehab vs. College
MTSU
Production Work
Adrian Belew
NOISE
LANDR
AI Mastering
Linkedin
Rejection of New Ideas
Time Management
The ATMOS Goldrush
Matt's Rant: Things to Consider When Building a StudioLinks and Show Notes
Daniel's Site
Daniel on Linkedin
Download 15 Tips to Help you Survive as an Audio Pro
Credits
Guest: Daniel Rowland
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith
Jul 4, 2022 • 58min
WCA #394 with Mike Tucci - Playing in Bands, Seeing the Value In Recording Studios, Working at Masterdisk, The Slow Magic Of LA, and Focusing on Results, Not Gear
My guest is Grammy-Nominated Mastering Engineer Mike Tucci, who has worked with Cory Henry, Living Colour, Doja Cat, Chris Brown, Young Thug, and Unstoppable Death Machines. In this episode, we discuss:
Queens
NYC
Music in Heard Growing Up
Playing in Bands
Seeing the Value In Recording Studios
Going to College
Understanding Recording
Masterdisk
Howie Weinberg
Moving o LA
Moving Into The Box
Not Depending on Other People's Gear
Slow Magic Of LA
Keeping a Simple Setup
Working From Home
Results Are The Only Thing That Matters
Matt's Rant: Who is Professional?Links and Show Notes
Mike on IG
Mike on Soundbetter
Download 15 Tips to Help you Survive as an Audio Pro
Credits
Guest: Mike Tucci
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith
Jun 27, 2022 • 60min
WCA #393 with Leff Lefferts - The World of Film Sound, Working with Randy Thom, Telling Stories, Planning Your Life, Financial Security, and ATMOS
My guest is Leff Lefferts making a return to WCA after his first appearance on WCA #101. Leff comes from a music recording background but has worked in film sound for the last 16 years at Skywalker Sound. He's worked as a Sound Effects Editor, Sound Editor, Supervising Sound Editor, Sound Designer, and Re-Recording Mixer on various movies, including, The Croods: A New Age, The Revenant, The Peanuts Movie, How to Train Your Dragon 2, and many more. In this episode, we discuss:
Randy Thom
Skywalker Sound
ATMOS
Telling Stories
Roles in Film Sound
Technology Changes
Content on Streaming Services
Planning Your Life
Music Industry vs Film Industry
Watching the Credits
Making Records for Enjoyment
Financial Security
UA Plugins
Early Days of Pro Tools
Bay Area Pro Audio Lore
Matt's Rant: Being ProactiveLinks and Show Notes
Leff on WCA #101
Leff's Email
Leff on IMDB
Download 15 Tips to Help you Survive as an Audio Pro
Credits
Guest: Leff Lefferts
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith
Jun 20, 2022 • 42min
WCA #392 with Rachael Moore - Meeting Your Heroes, Community of Success, Thinking Outside the Box, T Bone Burnett, and The Value of Being a Good Human Being
My guest is Grammy-Nominated engineer/mixer Rachael Moore. Rachael primarily works with T Bone Burnett and, as a result, has worked with Robert Plant, Alison Krauss, Elvis Costello, and Jessica Chastain. Rachael also has a hectic freelance schedule working around Nashville, where she is currently based. In this episode, we discuss:
Early Years in Texas
Getting Your Feet Wet at Full Sail
Internship with Jacquire King
Meeting Your Heroes
Community of Success
Dealing with Challenges
Sound Emporium
Financially Making it Work
Learning to Tune Pianos
Thinking Outside the Box
Working with T-Bone
T-Bone Burnett
How You Make People Feel In a Session
Do’s and Don’ts with T-Bone
Freelancing
Home Studio
The Traveling Rig
Dealing with Recalls
Advice for the Up and Comers
Financial Lessons As You Grow
Think of income as a triangle
The Value of Being a Good Human Being
Matt's Rant: Sonic SpaceLinks and Show Notes
Rachel Moore Instagram
Download 15 Tips to Help you Survive as an Audio Pro
Credits
Guest: Rachael Moore
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith
Jun 13, 2022 • 55min
WCA #391 with Steve Rosenthal Part 2 - Magic Shop History, NDA's, 9/11, Importance of Good Staff, and The Business of Restoration
My guest is Grammy-Winning producer, studio owner, and archivist Steve Rosenthal. The man behind the Magic Shop in New York. Steve has worked on projects for Woody Guthrie, Les Paul, Blondie, David Bowie, Foo Fighters, and Erroll Garner projects. Part two of a two-part interview. In this episode, we discuss:
Growing a Client Base
Magic Shop History
Roger Moutenot
Ed Stasium
The World Before Nirvana
Studio Ownership
Lessons Learned Running a Studio
Sonic Highways
Importance of Good Staff
Ownership Style
Getting Coffee for Rick Rubin
NDA's
The Dissolution of the Magic Shop
The Impact of 9/11
Shifting to Restoration
Ted Young
Working with Blondie
Lou Reed
Reinventing yourself
Nora Guthrie
DA-88s and ADATS
MARS
The Business of Restoration
Matt's Rant: BillingLinks and Show Notes
Steve's website.
Reto Peter on WCA
Jessica Thompson on WCA
Simple Invoices
Download 15 Tips to Help you Survive as an Audio Pro
Credits
Guest: Steve Rosenthal
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith
Jun 6, 2022 • 58min
WCA #390 with Steve Rosenthal Part 1 - Driving Cabs, Punching 16th Notes, Bathrobe Sessions, Living in Dreamland, and The Search for the Perfect Console
My guest is Grammy-Winning producer, studio owner, and archivist Steve Rosenthal. The man behind the Magic Shop in New York. Steve has worked on projects for Woody Guthrie, Les Paul, Blondie, David Bowie, Foo Fighters, and Erroll Garner projects. Part one of a two-part interview. In this episode, we discuss:
Growing up in NY
Getting Started on a Development Deal
The Recording Institute of America
Bad Cab Driver Turned Engineer
Early Days at Atlantic
Learning the "Atlantic Recording Way"
Punching 16th Notes
Skully 12 track
Learning Business and Engineering
Mentorship
Bathrobe Sessions
Buying the Fixtures
Otis Blackwell
Working in the Basement at A&R Records
Buying a Studio in Manhattan
Living in Dreamland
New Wave and Punk in the 80s
Technology Informing Art
Sonic Fashion Trends
Alan Lomax
Sonic Cues
The Plangent Process
The Magic Shop
Building a Studio for Making Rock Records
The Search for the Perfect Console
Matt's Rant: BillingLinks and Show Notes
Steve's website.
Reto Peter on WCA
Jessica Thompson on WCA
Simple Invoices
WCA on Instagram
Matt on Instagram
Connect with Matt on Linkedin
Current sponsors & promos
Credits
Guest: Steve Rosenthal
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith
May 30, 2022 • 51min
WCA #389 with Carlos Castro - Falling in Love with Recording, Dealing with Hypocrisy, Bruce Swedien, Bilingual Opportunities, and The Bigger Picture
My guest is a Grammy-Nominated Mixer, Engineer, and Producer, Carlos Castro. Carlos has worked with Shawn Colvin, Selena Gomez, Demi Lovato, Luis Miguel, Shaila Durcal, and many others. In this episode, we discuss:
Raised in Mexico City
Family History in Music
Falling in Love with Recording at 16
Full Sail Center
Dealing with Hypocrisy
Bruce Swedien
The Bigger Picture
Learning from Bruce
Understanding Sonic Personality
Avoiding Paralysis from Analysis
Terry Howard
Experience at Ocean Way
Learning on the Night Shift
Ocean Studios & Mama Joes
Jerry Finn
Checking Polarity with Galaxy Audio
Neve 5224 Compressors
Building WaterSound Studios
Built From the Ground Up
Maintaining Relevance in the Market
Bilingual Opportunities - Both language and cultural
Advice for Up and Comers
Matt's Rant: Well-built tools.Links and Show Notes
Carlos Castro website
Voyager 1 Documentary
WCA on Instagram
Matt on Instagram
Connect with Matt on Linkedin
Current sponsors & promos
Credits
Guest: Carlos Castro
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith
May 23, 2022 • 1h 19min
WCA #388 with Will Kennedy - Harvard AV, New York Struggles, LA Mentors, ATMOS, and the Rise of the Unintentional Tech
My guest is a Producer, Mixer, and Recording Engineer, Will Kennedy. Will has worked on projects for O.A.R., U2, Michael Franti and Spearhead, OneRepublic, The 88, B-52s, Jason Mraz, and many more. In this episode, we discuss:
Early Life in Farmland
Band Directors
Berklee College of Music
Behind the Scenes Person
Ocean Way Nashville
Allen Sides
Unintentional Tech
Life is Short Moment
Right Track Recording
Hard to Be Broke In New York
Want work? Plan a Vacation
Health Issues
Back to Boston
Harvard AV Department
Moving to LA at 30
Ray Charles Enterprises
Carl Beatty
Shady Work in Northridge
David Bianco
Dave's Room
Matt Wallace
The Back Room Guy
Working Well with Others Matters
The Future of ATMOS
Kali Audio
Affordable Atmos
JBL Intonato
The Love Shack Atmos Mix
Matt's Rant: Paying it ForwardLinks and Show Notes
Will's Site
Matt Wallace on WCA
Frank Fillipeti on WCA
WCA on Instagram
Matt on Instagram
Connect with Matt on Linkedin
Current sponsors & promos
Credits
Guest: Will Kennedy
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith
May 16, 2022 • 59min
WCA #387 with Bobby Owsinski - The Mix Engineers Handbook, Dolby Atmos, Collecting Ideas, Networking, and Clarity
My guest is a mixer, producer, author, and coach Bobby Owsinski. Bobby is the author of many books, including The Mixing Engineers Handbook; Bobby has also worked with many artists and companies, including Mick Taylor, Joe Houston, Rhino DVD, Forbes, Surround Pro Magazine, Adrianna Marie, and her Groovecutters. This is Bobby's second appearance on the show. In this episode, we discuss:
Dolby Atmos
5.1 Surround
Kludging Surround Tools Together
The Mix Engineers Handbook
Smart Plugins
Dynamics Timing
Self-Mastering
Saturation
Collecting Ideas
Networking
Clarity
Matt's Rant: Random ThoughtsLinks and Show Notes
Bobby's Books
Bobby's Podcast
WCA on Instagram
Matt on Instagram
Connect with Matt on Linkedin
Current sponsors & promos
Credits
Guest: Bobby Owsinski
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith


