
The Talk Show With John Gruber
The director’s commentary track for Daring Fireball. Long digressions on Apple, technology, design, movies, and more.
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Mar 12, 2023 • 3h 13min
370: ‘Fine Hypertext Products’, With Jason Kottke
Jason Kottke returns to the show to celebrate the 25th anniversary of Kottke.org.
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Kottke.org’s 10th anniversary, with a retrospective of site designs.
Stellar:
Jason’s introduction.
Miriam Krule’s profile for The Atlantic.
Archive.org’s archive of the home page.
Jason’s farewell post, upon shutting it down in 2016. (“I’m not good at quitting things.”)
The Suck.com origin story.
Jason’s “Ask Me Anything” solicitation for questions.
Neolithic weblogs:
Jorn Barger’s Robot Wisdom. He coined the term “weblog” and hosted a good FAQ.
Justin Hall’s Justin’s Links.
Dave Winer’s Davenet, which started in 1994.
Dean Allen:
Cardigan Industries (“At the corner of art and commerce.”)
Textism, perhaps the best written, best designed weblog ever. (“Make haste slowly.”)
Dean’s bio, one of my favorite pieces of writing ever.
Favrd.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Mar 1, 2023 • 3h 12min
369: ‘18-Hour Bombing Mission’, With Marco Arment
Marco Arment returns to the show to discuss some genuinely startling revelations regarding iPhone and Apple ID security; the new HomePod 2; and our favorite electric vehicle maker. Also: coffee.
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Joanna Stern and Nicole Nguyen for the WSJ: “A Basic iPhone Feature Helps Criminals Steal Your Entire Digital Life”.
Yours truly, back in 2020, missing the obvious: “Can Thieves Crack 6-Digit iPhone Passcodes?”.
Advanced Data Protection for iCloud — encrypts more stuff, but won’t protect you from someone with your iPhone and your passcode.
Marco’s review of the HomePod 2 on ATP.
Macworld: “This Photo of Lebron’s Record Should Be Apple’s Next ‘Shot on iPhone’ Ad”.
Marco’s broken (and my own current) coffee grinder: the Baratza Virtuosa, which, alas, has been discontinued.
Marco’s new coffee grinder: the Ode Brew Grinder Gen 2.
Kanye West revealing that his iPhone passcode is “000000” on camera, while in the Oval Office talking nonsense with then-President Trump.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Feb 1, 2023 • 1h 40min
368: ‘Tweeter and the Monkey Man’, With Dan Moren
Special guest Dan Moren joins the show to talk about the new M2 MacBook Pros and Mac Minis, the state of Mac gaming, and the triumphant return of the full-sized HomePod.
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New M2 Pro/Max MacBook Pros and Mac Minis
Techmeme’s review roundup
Dan, at Six Colors, on the M2 Mac Mini
Jason Snell on the M2 16-inch MBP
AppleInsider: “Entry Level M2 Mac Mini, 2023 MacBook Pro Have Slower SSD Than Predecessors”.
2nd-gen HomePod review roundup.
Dan’s “The Galactic Cold War” series of novels and short stories.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Jan 20, 2023 • 2h 51min
367: ‘Slow-Moving Hurricane’, With Craig Hockenberry
Craig Hockenberry returns to the show to talk about the demise of third-party Twitter clients, the overall Twitter shitshow, touchscreens on the Mac, and the perils of autocorrect when you have a clever username.
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From the Daring Fireball archive (2009): “Twitter Clients Are a UI Design Playground”.
Craig, this week: “The Shit Show”.
My take this week: “Twitterrific: End of an Era”.
The Iconfactory’s other apps:
Wallaroo — delightful iOS wallpapers
Tot — text scratchpad for Mac and iOS
xScope — screen inspector for Mac designers
Linea — excellent drawing app for iPad
Frenzic — fun game in Apple Arcade
Edovia’s Screens — amazing VNC app to use your Mac from iOS devices.
Lights Off — the first-ever game for iPhone, still available in the App Store.
EDGE “2G” cellular data networking.
Blaine Cook, early Twitter engineer and champion of third-party client APIs, now all-in on Mastodon.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Dec 31, 2022 • 2h 33min
366: ‘Measure Seven Times, Cut Once’, With Glenn Fleishman
Glenn Fleishman returns to the show to talk about reported setbacks in Apple's silicon division, the LastPass vault leak and password management, and the frontiers of social networking. Also, the joys of modern air travel during the holidays.
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Apple silicon woes:
Mark Gurman on the Mac Pro.
Wayne Ma at The Information on the graphics capabilities of the iPhone 14 Pro's A16 SoC.
Jeremi Gosney summarizing the situation with LastPass.
Seat 31B: "The Great Southwest Meltdown of 2022". Terrific explainer about how Southwest is different from other airlines.
Rubén Caballero -- formerly head of wireless technology engineering at Apple; now working for Microsoft.
Glenn's books on security.
Stochastic screening.
"Shift Happens" -- the keyboards book Glenn has been working on with Marcin Wichary since 2018.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Dec 22, 2022 • 2h 45min
365: ‘Permanent September’, With Rene Ritchie
Rene Ritchie returns to the show to talk about recent news (Twitter, Freeform, iCloud Advanced Data Protection, the EU’s new Digital Markets Act) and Apple’s 2022 year in review.
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Daring Fireball: “If a Third-Party App Store Falls in the Forest and No One Uses It, Does It Make a Sound?”
Rene’s YouTube channel.
Mark Gurman’s report for Bloomberg on Apple’s work complying with the sideloading and third-party app store mandates in the DMA.
Freeform, Apple’s new collaborative whiteboard app for Mac and iOS.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Dec 1, 2022 • 2h 22min
364: ‘Spooky Hole’, With John Moltz
Friend of the show John Moltz returns to talk about Elon Musk steering Twitter into a multi-issue spat with Apple, Mastodon, and some streaming TV recommendations.
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iPhone 14 production hit by Chinese protests.
Me, on Twitter-Apple drama and Musk baiting Tim Cook.
The Washington Post: Musk claims Apple threatens to remove Twitter from App Store.
WSJ: Elon Musk’s Boring Company Ghosts Cities Across America.
Macstodon: Mastodon Mac client for 68K Macs.
“Sleep Baseball” podcast.
Tim Cook’s gag tweet sent minutes before the start of the 2018 event introducing the iPhone XS and XR.
Fedifinder.
“The Peripheral” on Amazon Prime.
“1899” on Netflix.
“Dark” — from the creators of “1899”.
“Andor” on Disney+.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Nov 24, 2022 • 2h 15min
363: ‘Deliberately Churned’, With Christina Warren
Christina Warren returns to the show to talk about the drama at Disney, tumult at Twitter, and how the hell to score Taylor Swift tickets.
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Christina Warren on Twitter, a website that still exists at this writing.
Bob Iger returns to Disney as CEO.
Yours truly: “Twitter Tumult”.
Elon Musk asks engineers for weekly emails with code screenshots.
Vice: “Twitter Employees on Visas Can’t Just Quit”.
Disney books:
Disney War, by James B. Stewart — “The dramatic inside story of the downfall of Michael Eisner—Disney Chairman and CEO—and the scandals that drove America’s best-known entertainment company to civil war.”
Walt Disney, by Neal Gabler — “The definitive portrait of one of the most important cultural figures in American history.”
Speaking of James B. Stewart, his recent epic story on AT&T’s Time Warner acquisition for The New York Times: “Was This $100 Billion Deal the Worst Merger Ever?”.
Puck — excellent new subscription Hollywood/media/Silicon Valley news site.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Nov 19, 2022 • 2h 14min
362: ‘Grand Scale Foot-Shooting’, With Anil Dash
Special guest: Anil Dash. A little about last week’s U.S. midterm elections, and a lot about what’s going on at Twitter under Elon Musk.
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“Twitter Tumult” — me, on what’s going on at Twitter.
Twitter Is Going Great — A rundown of everything during Twitter’s saga under Elon Musk.
Fedifinder — “Search Twitter names, bios, locations, URLs, and pinned Tweets for fediverse handles and URLs.” Nifty tool for anyone moving from Twitter to Mastodon or just trying Mastodon out.
Fediverse of Madness — a collection of Glitch apps related to the fediverse.
Glitch.
The Obama Foundation Democracy Forum.
Anil’s prescient Twitter prediction from back in April.
Anil’s blog.
Dahlia Lithwick, SCOTUS columnist extraordinaire.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Nov 1, 2022 • 2h 30min
361: ‘A Fit of Pique’, With Federico Viticci
Federico Viticci returns to the show to talk about iPads, Stage Manager, and Apple’s ill-considered foray into expanding ads in the App Store.
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Tell us what you really think, Federico: “Stage Manager in iPadOS 16: At the Intersection of Bugs, Missing Features, and Flawed Design”.
Chris Lawley on Stage Manager.
Federico on the new iPads.
Yours truly on the same new iPads.
Federico on attending his first Apple media event in person, back in 2015.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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