
The Talk Show With John Gruber
The director’s commentary track for Daring Fireball. Long digressions on Apple, technology, design, movies, and more.
Latest episodes

Oct 25, 2022 • 2h 31min
360: ‘Neither Fish Nor Fowl’, With Jason Snell
Jason Snell returns to the show to talk about the new 10th-gen iPad and M2 iPads Pro.
Sponsored by:
Linode: Instantly deploy and manage an SSD server in the Linode Cloud. New accounts get $100 credit.
Trade Coffee: Incredible coffee delivered fresh from the best roasters in the nation.
Indochino: Made for you. Promo code: thetalkshow.
Backblaze: Backblaze makes backing up and accessing your data astonishingly easy.
Links:
Jason’s review of the new iPads.
Jason’s take on the iPad announcements: “The iPad’s Erratic Odyssey Continues”.
Yours truly’s take on the announcements last week: “The iPad Lineup Is, Like, Growing Out Its Bangs or Something and Looks a Little Weird Right Now, but Apple TV Has Been Going to the Gym and Looks Great”.
New $70 Logitech Crayon.
Apple’s $9 USB-C to Apple Pencil Adapter.
Apple’s growing array of iPad keyboards.
Apple’s eMac — an iMac-like Mac with a CRT display for education that was introduced in 2002.
Joe Rosensteel on the new Apple TV 4K hardware.
Good explainer on Matter from The Verge.
Steven Troughton-Smith’s ideas for improving Stage Manager on iPadOS.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Oct 13, 2022 • 1h 38min
359: ‘Big Booger Came After You’, With Merlin Mann
Merlin Mann returns to the show to talk about AI image generation (along with a few asides).
Sponsored by:
Alex Weinstein: Handmade music for picture.
Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order.
Hello Fresh: America’s #1 meal kit.
Memberful: Monetize your passion with membership. Start your free trial today.
Links:
Stable Diffusion.
Diffusion Bee: easily install and run on a Mac.
Midjourney.
Merlin’s Wisdom Project.
Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story on Netflix.
The Offer on Paramount+.
Do By Friday — Merlin’s weekly challenge podcast with Alex Cox.
Reconcilable Differences — Merlin’s podcast with John Siracusa.
Seki Edge Nail Clippers, made in Japan.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Oct 1, 2022 • 2h 31min
358: ‘Double-Digit Domains’, With Paul Kafasis
Paul Kafasis returns to the show to talk about the iPhone 14 Pro, Apple Watch Ultra, AirPods Pro, and Rogue Amoeba's 20th anniversary.
Sponsored by:
Linode: Instantly deploy and manage an SSD server in the Linode Cloud. New accounts get a $100 credit.
Retool: Build internal tools 10× faster.
Indochino: Made for you. Use promo code thetalkshow for $50 any purchase of $399 or more.
Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order.
ShipStation: Shipping software for wherever you sell, however you ship. Promo code: thetalkshow.
Links:
Celebrate Rogue Amoeba’s 20th Anniversary.
My link.
The Design of Audio Hijack 4.
My link.
Rogue Amoeba: “Our Upgrade Philosophy”.
Custom-engraved AirPods Pro cases show up with the engraving on-screen in iOS.
Yours truly’s Apple Watch Ultra review.
Remembering “SportsCenter’s Dick Trickle”
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Sep 21, 2022 • 3h 14min
357: ‘Fluent Cupertinoese’, With Nilay Patel
Nilay Patel returns to the show to talk about Apple’s “Far Out” event, the iPhones 14, and The Verge’s redesign.
Sponsored by:
Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order.
Hullo Pillow: Your favorite pillow, guaranteed.
Trade Coffee: Incredible coffee delivered fresh from the best roasters in the nation.
Backblaze: Backblaze makes backing up and accessing your data astonishingly easy.
Links:
Nilay's iPhone 14 Pro review for The Verge.
Yours truly's iPhone 14 Pro review.
Nilay: "Welcome to the New Verge".
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

12 snips
Sep 1, 2022 • 2h 11min
356: ‘An Unranted Rant’, With Rosemary Orchard
Special guest Rosemary Orchard joins the show to talk about her new book, Take Control of Shortcuts, and the state of automation on iOS and MacOS.
Sponsored by:
Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order.
Indochino: Made for you. Promo code: thetalkshow for $50 off any purchase of $399 or more.
Kolide: An endpoint security solution for teams that want to meet their compliance goals without sacrificing privacy.
Links:
Rosemary’s blog.
Automators — Rosemary’s podcast cohosted with David Sparks.
Nested Folders — Rosemary’s productivity podcast, cohosted with Scotty Jackson.
iOS Today at TWiT.
Author Danny Goodman, whose Complete HyperCard Handbook sold 650,000 copies in the late 1980s.
“The Right Way to Pop Your AirPods Out of the Case” — yours truly YouTubing back in 2017.
“Life finds a way” — Ian Malcom in Jurassic Park.
Pushcut — “Triggers, notifications, and widgets for Shortcuts, Home, and online automation”.
WidgetPack — “Create your own widgets with Shortcuts.”
Matthew Cassenelli, Shortcuts expert and author.
Chris Lawley’s YouTube productivity tips channel.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Aug 26, 2022 • 2h 30min
355: ‘The Creaturest of Habits’, With Daniel Jalkut
Daniel Jalkut returns to the show. Topics include a serious discussion about CSAM detection at major cloud storage providers and messaging services. Also, a deep dive regarding the new iOS-UI-style rewrite of System Settings on the still-in-beta MacOS 13 Ventura, and thoughts on SwiftUI in general.
Sponsored by:
Linode: Instantly deploy and manage an SSD server in the Linode Cloud. New accounts get a $100 credit.
Memberful: Monetize your passion with membership. Start your free trial today.
RevenueCat: In-app subscriptions made easy.
Links:
Kashmir Hill's report for the NYT: "A Dad Took Photos of His Naked Toddler for the Doctor. Google Flagged Him as a Criminal."
My take on the implications of that story.
System Settings in MacOS 13 Ventura:
Me, at DF: "The Fit and Finish of the All-New System Settings on MacOS 13 Ventura".
Jalkut, at his Bitsplitting blog: "Disciplined Innovation".
MarsEdit 5 will support Markdown syntax coloring. Finally.
Red Sweater Software.
Core Intuition, the podcast Jalkut cohosts with Manton Reece.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Aug 18, 2022 • 2h 31min
354: ‘Get Me to the Fainting Couch’, With John Moltz
Very special guest John Moltz returns to the show to talk about Center Stage, Stage Manager, and all the other stages.
Sponsored by:
Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order.
Trade Coffee: Incredible coffee delivered fresh from the best roasters in the nation
ShipStation: Shipping software for wherever you sell, however you ship.
Links:
Niki Tonsky on Twitter on MacOS 13 Settings.
Craig Federighi on Stage Manager at this year's The Talk Show Live From WWDC.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Aug 1, 2022 • 2h 4min
353: ‘Shop Different’, With Michael Steeber
Special guest Michael Steeber joins the show to discuss his new project, The Apple Store Time Machine — an intricately-detailed explorable walkthrough of four of Apple’s original retail stores.
Sponsored by:
Retool: Build internal tools 10× faster.
Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order.
Memberful: Monetize your passion with membership. Start your free trial today.
Hello Fresh: America’s #1 meal kit.
Links:
Michael Steeber’s homepage.
The App Store Time Machine.
Steeber’s first crack at the idea of recreating original Apple Stores virtually, this one using ARKit last year.
Tabletops, Steeber’s newsletter.
Steeber’s Apple Store Glossary.
A 4-minute video from the grand opening of the Glendale Galleria Apple Store on 19 May 2001. Apple opened its first two stores that day — in Glendale, California and Tysons, Virginia. Customers waited for three hours to enter the store and were happy to do so.
Signage outside the Lincoln Park Apple Store in Chicago, with “Apple Store” anachronistically set in Apple Garamond.
Apple Marina Bay Sands, in Singapore. Just gorgeous.
Apple Carnegie Library, in Washington, DC.
Apple Tower Theatre, in Los Angeles.
Apple Walnut Street, in always-sunny Philadelphia.
Walnut Street ransacked and burned during the George Floyd riots on 30 May 2020.
My Instagram photo of the employee-painted mural coming to life on the boarded-up Walnut Street Apple Store, 13 June 2020. (Original JPEG, for posterity after Facebook collapses.)
The finished mural.
Bill Gates’s apparently apocryphal quote that “640K ought to be enough for anybody.”
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

7 snips
Jul 26, 2022 • 3h 9min
352: ‘I’ve Kissed That Mouse’, With Marco Arment
Marco Arment returns to the show to talk about the new M2 MacBook Air and stuff.
Sponsored by:
Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order.
Linode: Instantly deploy and manage an SSD server in the Linode Cloud. New accounts get a $100 credit.
Trade Coffee: Incredible coffee delivered fresh from the best roasters in the nation.
ShipStation: Shipping software for wherever you sell, however you ship. 60-day free trial with code thetalkshow.
Hover: Find a domain name for your passion. Get 10% off your first purchase.
Links:
Hop Wtr.
Hoplark.
My review of the new M2 MacBook Air.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Jul 1, 2022 • 2h 2min
351: ‘Here You Go, Cheapskate’, With Rene Ritchie
Rene Ritchie returns to the show for more on Apple’s announcements from WWDC 2022, locking devices out of Face ID and Touch ID, passkeys, and more.
Sponsored by:
Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order.
Memberful: Monetize your passion with membership. Start your free trial today.
Kolide: Endpoint security for teams that Slack. Try Kolide for free today; no credit card required.
Links:
Rene’s review of the new M2 13-inch MacBook Pro.
The M2 MacBook Pro with 256 GB SSD has slower read and write performance than any M1 Mac, but only the 256 GB config.
Daring Fireball: “How to Temporarily Disable Face ID or Touch ID, and Require a Passcode to Unlock Your iPhone or iPad”.
Rene’s deep dive on Passkeys.
Glenn Fleishman’s comprehensive piece on Passkeys for TidBITS.
Atul Gawande’s The Checklist Manifesto.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
Remember Everything You Learn from Podcasts
Save insights instantly, chat with episodes, and build lasting knowledge - all powered by AI.