The B2B Playbook

Most teams blame Predictable Revenue for broken outbound. The truth? The model wasn’t wrong — the market’s interpretation was.In this 5-minute Mid-Week Musing, we unpack why Predictable Revenue went off track and show how small B2B teams can fix outbound in 2026 through market validation — not meetings.You’ll learn: + Why Predictable Revenue got misused as a meeting-engine, not a validation system+ How to catalogue your market to uncover real buying signals+ A simple way to align sales and marketing around timing and handoffsPerfect for small-team marketers and sales leaders ready to modernise outbound and build predictable revenue the right way.-----------------------------------------------------🔗 Links + CTAs-----------------------------------------------------🧠 Learn how to drive revenue across your organisation with CRO School: https://theb2bplaybook.com/cro-school🎓 Join our Demand Generation Program: https://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-course💼 Need help running your own LinkedIn Thought Leadership Ads? https://theb2bplaybook.com/linkedin-ads-agency-----------------------------------------------------🧑‍🎓ACCESS our B2B COURSES: https://theb2bplaybook.com/courses📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theb2bplaybook📩 Newsletter: https://theb2bplaybook.com/newsletter/📚 Latest content: https://theb2bplaybook.com/-----------------------------------------------------00:00 Why Predictable Revenue Wasn’t Wrong01:14 Market Validation: The Fix for Outbound in 202603:12 How to Catalogue Accounts (Instead of Chasing Meetings)05:08 Why Timing Beats Pressure in Modern Outbound08:45 Systemising the Handoff: Turning Validation into Revenue-----------------------------------------------------👥 Are you a B2B marketer in a small team??💰 Need to bring in more revenue for your company (so sales and your boss love you??)Get the:🔹 strategy🔹 templates🔹 toolsSo you have everything you need to drive more revenue for your brand.See why other B2B marketers like you love The B2B Incubatorhttps://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-courseS07 E207 - The B2B Playbook#b2b #predictablerevenue #b2bmarketing #demandgeneration #outboundsales #theb2bplaybook #revenuearchitecture #croschool #collinstewart

Collin Stewart, CEO of Predictable Revenue, and Adem Manderovic from Closed Circuit Selling dive into the evolving landscape of outbound sales. They discuss how outbound strategies are shifting from brute-force approaches to more intelligent, signal-led methods. Collin shares insights on the critical importance of market validation as a success metric. Adem highlights the need for effective communication in sales, while introducing their innovative four-funnel system to better align sales and marketing efforts. This conversation is essential for anyone looking to future-proof their sales strategy.

Too many marketers treat intent data like X-ray vision – but it can’t actually tell you who’s ready to buy.In this 5-minute Mid-Week Musing, we show how to replace guesswork with a practical signals framework that builds real sales timing intel through cataloguing.You’ll learn: + Why intent scores create false positives (and how to spot them)+ How sales cataloguing captures true buyer signals+ The Signals → Catalogue → Feedback loop that aligns marketing and salesPerfect for teams who want reliable signals – not synthetic data.-----------------------------------------------------🔗 Links + CTAs-----------------------------------------------------🎓 Join our Demand Generation Program: https://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-course🧠 Learn how to drive revenue across your organisation with CRO School: https://theb2bplaybook.com/cro-school💼 Need help running your own LinkedIn Thought Leadership Ads? https://theb2bplaybook.com/linkedin-ads-agency-----------------------------------------------------🧑‍🎓ACCESS our B2B COURSES: https://theb2bplaybook.com/courses📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theb2bplaybook📩 Newsletter: https://theb2bplaybook.com/newsletter/📚 Latest content: https://theb2bplaybook.com/-----------------------------------------------------00:00 Intent Data Lies: Why You’re Chasing Ghost Signals00:40 The CRM “Hot Lead” That Wasn’t – False Positives Explained01:20 Real Buyer Signals Start with Sales Cataloguing02:15 Map Tools, Contracts & Decision Makers – Your Signal Checklist03:20 Turn Intent into Insight: Signals → Catalogue → Feedback-----------------------------------------------------👥 Are you a B2B marketer in a small team??💰 Need to bring in more revenue for your company (so sales and your boss love you??)Get the:🔹 strategy🔹 templates🔹 toolsSo you have everything you need to drive more revenue for your brand.See why other B2B marketers like you love The B2B Incubatorhttps://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-courseS07 E205 - The B2B Playbook#b2b #b2bmarketing #intentdata #buyersignals #demandgeneration #marketingtips #theb2bplaybook #midweekmusings

Originally aired on the Predictable Revenue Podcast, this conversation flips the old sales playbook on its head.Adem Manderovic (Closed Circuit Selling) and George Coudounaris (The B2B Playbook) join Collin Stewart to unpack a new sales paradigm built around one principle — catalog the market, not “book more meetings.”They explain how the Closed Circuit Selling framework replaces outdated outbound with validated, permission-based outreach that unites Sales, Marketing, and Customer Success under one rhythm.Tune in and learn:+ Why cataloging the market gives you timing signals that drive predictable growth+ The exact questions to validate fit, timing, and permission to follow up+ How to align Sales & Marketing around validated accounts instead of vanity metricsIf you’re a B2B marketer or sales leader stuck in “meetings-booked” chaos, this is your blueprint for a smarter, more efficient GTM motion.-----------------------------------------------------🔗 Links + CTAs-----------------------------------------------------🧠 Learn how to drive revenue across your organisation with CRO School: https://theb2bplaybook.com/cro-school🎓 Join our Demand Generation Program: https://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-course💼 Need help running your own LinkedIn Thought Leadership Ads? https://theb2bplaybook.com/linkedin-ads-agency-----------------------------------------------------🧑‍🎓ACCESS our B2B COURSES: https://theb2bplaybook.com/courses📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theb2bplaybook📩 Newsletter: https://theb2bplaybook.com/newsletter/📚 Latest content: https://theb2bplaybook.com/-----------------------------------------------------00:00 Why “Catalog the Market” Beats Chasing Meetings01:00 What CRO School Fixes That Sales Methods Miss02:10 Small Markets Force Better GTM (Sydney -- Texas)03:20 The Origin Story: From Little Black Book to System04:40 Closed-Door Events: Selling Before Stock Hits the Floor06:00 Cross-Industry Proof: Finance, Leasing, FMCG, VC07:10 Relationship-First Outbound - Spray-and-Pray08:10 Marketing’s Lead-Gen Trap and Why Dashboards Lie09:30 Email Once Worked. It Doesn’t Now. Back to Fundamentals11:10 Using Outbound as Research, Not Pressure Sales12:40 The Two Dispositions: “Nurture” vs “Leave Us Alone” (FOAD)13:50 CCS Pillars: 1) Catalog the Market 2) Segment by Timing15:30 Aligning Sales, Marketing, CS Under One Rhythm16:50 Better Forecasts When You Know “Who, When, Why”18:10 Case Study: $10k Wasted Chasing the Wrong Account19:30 Marketing Can Catalog 1-to-Few (Not Just Sales)21:00 What to Measure Instead of “Meetings Booked”22:20 The Exact Catalog Questions to Ask Prospects24:00 Where Outbound Happens Next: DM, Video, TikTok, IG25:20 Fax Machines to Folders: How We Tracked Timing (Throwback)26:40 The Big Shift You’ll See in Clients Post-CCS27:40 Where to Learn More + 5-Part Mini-Series-----------------------------------------------------👥 Are you a B2B marketer in a small team??💰 Need to bring in more revenue for your company (so sales and your boss love you??)Get the:🔹 strategy🔹 templates🔹 toolsSo you have everything you need to drive more revenue for your brand.See why other B2B marketers like you love The B2B Incubatorhttps://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-courseS07 E204 - The B2B Playbook#b2b #b2bmarketing #demandgeneration #marketingtips #theb2bplaybook

We’re showing how to unlock free clicks on LinkedIn Ads by editing boosted thought-leadership posts a few days later and adding the next logical link. No extra budget, more content consumption.In this Midweek Musings mini-episode, we break down why boosting SME posts builds trust, how to avoid throttling reach, and where to find those “free” landing-page clicks inside Ads Manager. Perfect for small B2B teams who need smarter results from the same spend.We also show how to map your link choice to the 5 Stages of Awareness—and why sending people to another LinkedIn post often outperforms a website link early in the journey.Tune in and learn:How to avoid reach penalties and still add links that convert laterWhat to link to next (and why another LinkedIn post can win)Where to measure “free clicks” inside LinkedIn AdsIf you run thought-leadership ads, this is a must-watch—simple, fast, and proven for B2B marketers who need more outcomes from limited budget.SUBSCRIBE to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/@theb2bplaybookSUBSCRIBE to our newsletter: https://theb2bplaybook.com/newsletter/GET the latest CONTENT: https://theb2bplaybook.com/Chapters00:00 The 2-Minute Hack for Free Clicks on LinkedIn Ads00:15 Why You Shouldn’t Add Links on Day One00:45 What to Link to Instead (Next Logical Step)01:15 Measure Your “Free Clicks” in Ads Manager👥 Are you a B2B marketer in a small team?💰 Need to bring in more revenue for your company (so sales and your boss love you)?Get the:🔹 strategy🔹 templates🔹 toolsSo you have everything you need to drive more revenue for your brand.See why other B2B marketers like you love The B2B Incubator👉 https://theb2bincubator.com/Midweek Musings 01 – The B2B Playbook#b2b #b2bmarketing #digitalmarketing #demandgeneration #linkedinads

Good Friction vs Bad Friction in B2B Marketing: Stop Wasting Buyer EffortToo many teams removed every barrier and called it “buyer-first.” The result? Leaky funnels, vanity MQLs, and zero commercial insight. In this episode, we show how to use good friction to earn trust, capture context, and actually help buyers make better decisions (without annoying them).We (George Coudounaris & Kevin Chen) break down where friction belongs in your buyer journey, when gating makes sense, and how to turn forms, events, and content into useful market intel. We also dig into progressive profiling and cataloguing so Sales get timing, permission, and real-world context they can act on.We’ll show standout moments like: why you should stop gating case studies, how to design “good friction” for community signups and workshops, and a simple green-yellow-red scoring method to fix bad friction fast.Tune in and learn:+ The difference between good vs bad friction (and how to spot each)+ When to gate (community, events, newsletters) and when not to (case studies)+ How to use progressive profiling to “catalogue” vendors, renewal dates, and permission to follow upIf you’re a small B2B team, this episode is a must-watch. You’ll walk away with a friction map you can fix this week, a scoring system to prioritise changes, and a smarter way to feed Sales with timing-based insights.-----------------------------------------------------🔗 Links + CTAs-----------------------------------------------------🧠 Learn how to drive revenue across your organisation with CRO School: https://theb2bplaybook.com/cro-school💼 Need help running your own LinkedIn Thought Leadership Ads? https://theb2bplaybook.com/linkedin-ads-agency🎓 Join our Demand Generation Program: https://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-course-----------------------------------------------------🧑‍🎓ACCESS our B2B COURSES: https://theb2bplaybook.com/courses📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theb2bplaybook📩 Newsletter: https://theb2bplaybook.com/newsletter/📚 Latest content: https://theb2bplaybook.com/-----------------------------------------------------00:00 Good vs Bad Friction: Why “Less friction” isn’t always better00:31 Welcome back + Season 7 context01:10 The 5 Bs (quick refresher for new viewers)02:10 What is “friction” in B2B? A simple definition that matters03:00 Good friction vs bad friction – who does it actually help?03:46 Bad friction example: Long forms for generic PDFs04:52 More “bad”: CRM-first flows and vanity MQLs06:10 Content gating gone wrong (case studies… don’t gate them)07:20 When gating is OK: communities, events, and newsletters08:18 Using friction to “catalogue” the market (timing + permission)09:40 Why cataloguing beats ebook MQLs10:41 Buyers don’t fear effort—they fear wasted effort11:34 Our CRO School example: progressive profiling that helps12:45 Turn events into commercial insights (what to ask)13:50 Start with FAQs to find friction that actually matters15:10 Map the journey: value exchange at each interaction16:05 Score friction: green / yellow / red17:00 Simplify or redesign: make effort earn trust18:10 Key takeaways + springboard into the new year19:00 One ask: share this with a marketer who’ll benefit-----------------------------------------------------👥 Are you a B2B marketer in a small team??💰 Need to bring in more revenue for your company (so sales and your boss love you??)Get the:🔹 strategy🔹 templates🔹 toolsSo you have everything you need to drive more revenue for your brand.See why other B2B marketers like you love The B2B Incubatorhttps://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-courseS07 E202 - The B2B Playbook#b2b #b2bmarketing #digitalmarketing #demandgeneration #contentmarketing

Outbound is breaking — and most teams don’t even realise it yet.In this episode, Scott Leese joins George Coudounaris and Adem Manderovic to unpack why the Predictable Revenue model is collapsing — and how to rebuild outbound around networks, trust, and real timing.We break down how the SDR→AE split eroded skills and alignment, how “meetings booked” became the wrong KPI, and what today’s best sellers are doing differently: validating markets, leveraging relationships, and comping on actual revenue.Scott shares what he’s seeing across 160 + companies and 12 unicorns, from collapsing cold-call pickup rates to the rebirth of in-person plays. We tie it back to CRO School’s Closed Circuit Selling™ — a system that gets sales, marketing, and product working in sync again.Tune in and learn:+ Why outbound is breaking — and what replaces it+ How to comp on held meetings or revenue, not vanity KPIs+ How to validate and catalogue your market for smarter timing+ The new edge: AI + network + unscalable playsIf you’re a small-team B2B marketer or sales leader sick of empty pipelines and spam tactics, this episode gives you the modern framework to fix it.-----------------------------------------------------🔗 Links + CTAs-----------------------------------------------------🧠 Learn how to drive revenue across your organisation with CRO School: https://theb2bplaybook.com/cro-school💼 Need help running your own LinkedIn Thought Leadership Ads? https://theb2bplaybook.com/linkedin-ads-agency🎓 Join our Demand Generation Program: https://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-course-----------------------------------------------------🧑‍🎓ACCESS our B2B COURSES: https://theb2bplaybook.com/courses📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theb2bplaybook📩 Newsletter: https://theb2bplaybook.com/newsletter/📚 Latest content: https://theb2bplaybook.com/-----------------------------------------------------00:00 The Volume Game Is Dead01:00 Why Scott Leese Ditched Outdated Playbooks02:20 “Hobbyists with Pitch Decks”04:40 Funding ≠ Success07:18 Founders Must Sell First10:50 What Great Sellers Do Differently13:40 Validate the Market Before You Sell16:04 How Predictable Revenue Broke Sales19:40 Lost Coaching & Skill Decay23:58 AI + Network + Unscalable Grit26:50 Fix Your Sales Technical Debt29:21 Stop Paying for Meetings Booked32:00 The MQL Hamster Wheel35:00 Rebuilding Sales–Marketing Handoffs41:10 Cold Calls Are Dying45:10 Referral Math That Opens Doors46:20 In-Person Plays That Win49:20 Deepfakes & IRL Trust55:10 Scott’s 3 Bets for the Future-----------------------------------------------------👥 Are you a B2B marketer in a small team??💰 Need to bring in more revenue for your company (so sales and your boss love you??)Get the:🔹 strategy🔹 templates🔹 toolsSo you have everything you need to drive more revenue for your brand.See why other B2B marketers like you love The B2B Incubatorhttps://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-courseS07 E201 - The B2B Playbook#b2b #b2bmarketing #digitalmarketing #demandgeneration #outboundsales

How do you go from a scrappy B2B SaaS with early traction… to a repeatable, scalable growth machine?In this episode, we sit down with EVP’s Allen Zhu — founder-turned-PM-turned-investor — to unpack the go-to-market playbook for scaling from 1 to 10. We dive into how top SaaS companies segment their market, fund sales and marketing early, and build moats that compound.Allen shares real examples from EVP’s portfolio (including Nexl) and explains how segmentation, workflow-driven expansion, and smart early investment helped them scale fast without burning cash.Tune in and learn:+ How segmentation drives efficiency — and the Nexl case that proves it+ The “self-funding” model for early sales & marketing investment+ Product expansion frameworks: follow the workflow, then follow the money+ How to build switching-cost moats and pre-board ROI for enterprise dealsThis is a must-watch for any B2B marketer or founder navigating the jump from early traction to scalable growth.-----------------------------------------------------🔗 Links + CTAs-----------------------------------------------------🧠 Learn how to drive revenue across your organisation with CRO School: https://theb2bplaybook.com/cro-school💼 Need help running your own LinkedIn Thought Leadership Ads? https://theb2bplaybook.com/linkedin-ads-agency🎓 Join our Demand Generation Program: https://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-course-----------------------------------------------------🧑‍🎓ACCESS our B2B COURSES: https://theb2bplaybook.com/courses📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theb2bplaybook📩 Newsletter: https://theb2bplaybook.com/newsletter/📚 Latest content: https://theb2bplaybook.com/-----------------------------------------------------00:00 The counter-intuitive truth: Sales & marketing can be self-funding01:00 Meet Allen Zhu (EVP): founder → PM → investor03:00 Early ventures, lessons from agency → apps → D2C06:30 From Citi to Freelancer to EVP: why B2B SaaS09:30 What EVP does at Series A (and how they partner)12:00 The #1 scaling mistake: skipping segmentation15:10 Case study: Nexl’s segmentation unlock (who, where, and why)19:40 Why SDR “spray & pray” fails in small total addressable lists22:10 Invest in S&M early: the “self-funding” window explained24:30 Measuring what matters when attribution gets messy29:30 Product expansion playbook: follow the workflow, follow the money33:30 Moats 101 for SaaS: switching costs, data, and process power37:30 Selling enterprise: pre-boarding ROI to win the room42:30 Timing outreach with public contract intel (governments)46:30 Customer advocacy flywheel: advisory boards & reference power53:00 Leading vs lagging: how EVP reads GTM progress56:30 What “active partner” really means at Series A58:30 Final takeaway: segmentation first, everything else follows59:30 Where to find Allen & EVP-----------------------------------------------------👥 Are you a B2B marketer in a small team??💰 Need to bring in more revenue for your company (so sales and your boss love you??)Get the:🔹 strategy🔹 templates🔹 toolsSo you have everything you need to drive more revenue for your brand.See why other B2B marketers like you love The B2B Incubatorhttps://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-courseS07 E200 - The B2B Playbook#b2b #b2bmarketing #b2bsaas #gotomarket #seriesA #evpventures #demandgeneration

How do you go from 70 to 1000+ registrants for your webinar? How do you convert this to revenue? In this game-changing episode of The B2B Playbook, we dive deep into the world of webinar marketing with expert Justin Zimmerman. Justin reveals his innovative approach to webinars that's driving unprecedented results for B2B companies.We explore a complete paradigm shift in webinar strategy, moving away from the traditional focus on attendance and content creation to a data-driven, partner-centric approach. Justin shares his secrets for consistently achieving 1000+ registrants, turning webinars into powerful lead generation and sales conversion tools.Tune in and learn:+ How to leverage partners and influencers to exponentially grow your webinar audience+ The 6-step registration process that captures crucial lead data and drives conversions+ Post-webinar strategies that turn no-shows into demo bookings and sales opportunitiesThis episode is a must-watch for any B2B marketer looking to revolutionize their webinar strategy, drive more leads, and achieve better ROI from their marketing efforts. Justin's insights will change the way you think about webinars forever!-----------------------------------------------------SUBSCRIBE to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/@theb2bplaybookSUBSCRIBE to our newsletter: https://theb2bplaybook.com/newsletter/GET the latest CONTENT: https://theb2bplaybook.com/-----------------------------------------------------00:00 The Game-Changing Webinar Strategy You've Been Missing02:19 Common Webinar Pitfalls: Why Most B2B Marketers Struggle04:30 Revolutionizing Webinars: Focus on Data Collection, Not Attendance07:09 Leveraging Partners and Influencers for Massive Webinar Growth11:37 The 6-Step Registration Process That Drives Results16:40 Curating Content vs. Creating: A Stress-Free Approach to Webinars21:20 Structuring Your Webinar for Maximum Impact and Sales Conversion26:29 Post-Webinar Strategies That Turn Attendees into Customers31:30 The Power of Problem Awareness in Demand Capture37:10 Automating Follow-Ups: Balancing Efficiency and Personalization41:40 Ask More, Get More: Introducing a Revolutionary Webinar Tool-----------------------------------------------------👥 Are you a B2B marketer in a small team??💰 Need to bring in more revenue for your company (so sales and your boss love you??)Get the:🔹 strategy🔹 templates🔹 toolsSo you have everything you need to drive more revenue for your brand.See why other B2B marketers like you love The B2B IncubatorCheck out: https://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-courseS06 E151 - The B2B Playbook#b2b #b2bmarketing #demandgeneration #demandgen #webinar #b2bsaas #revenuemarketing #MarketingStrategy #leadgeneration #b2bcontentmarketing #salesandmarketing

If your outbound is optimised for meetings, not conversations, you’re burning cash and trust.We sit down with Joey Gilkey (CEO, Titan X) and Adem Manderovic (Closed Circuit Selling, CRO School) to rebuild B2B outbound so it actually drives revenue. We unpack why the SDR-AE factory failed, how to get 25% connect rates, and how to use first-party signals to guide timing, ads, and follow up.Joey shows why he pays SDRs to create completed conversations and rigorous disposition buckets. Adem explains cataloguing and channel validation so marketing stops guessing and starts planning around real timing. We dig into audience activation using opt-in texts and VSLs, and why “buyer intent” data isn’t the shortcut you think it is.Tune in and learn:+ A practical B2B outbound strategy built on conversations and 6 disposition buckets+ Why the SDR-AE model and Predictable Revenue broke outbound (and what replaces it)+ Why pipeline coverage and meeting quotas mislead teams, and what to measure insteadThis is a must-watch if you’re a B2B revenue leader. Stop chasing low-value meetings and start engineering high-value conversations that inform ads, timing, and deals.-----------------------------------------------------🔗 Links + CTAs-----------------------------------------------------🧠 Learn how to drive revenue across your organisation with CRO School: https://theb2bplaybook.com/cro-school💼 Need help running your own LinkedIn Thought Leadership Ads? https://theb2bplaybook.com/linkedin-ads-agency🎓 Join our Demand Generation Program: https://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-course-----------------------------------------------------🧑‍🎓ACCESS our B2B COURSES: https://theb2bplaybook.com/courses📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theb2bplaybook📩 Newsletter: https://theb2bplaybook.com/newsletter/📚 Latest content: https://theb2bplaybook.com/-----------------------------------------------------00:00 Why today’s outbound is breaking trust01:34 Joey Gilkey on Titan X and the “phone intent” wedge02:58 The 25% connect-rate play and why conversations matter04:30 How the SDR-AE split eroded buyer trust06:05 Cheap headcount, costly model: the real flaw08:36 What APAC got right: senior sellers and CS roots10:28 Market validation beats MQLs every time12:44 VC incentives and the sales industrial complex13:58 Joey’s reversal: paying SDRs to have conversations15:42 Long-cycle selling lessons that fix short-term thinking18:32 Buckets, not bookings: 6 dispositions that run your follow up21:05 Full-cycle AEs vs modern roles – what actually works27:10 Audience activation: VSL + phone + SMS that scales trust32:33 Opt-in texting, pixeling, and smarter retargeting34:52 Make marketing useful: capture commercial intel, not contacts36:55 Pipeline coverage is a vanity metric without context38:28 Phone intel powering LinkedIn ads and account timing40:28 Why “buyer intent” data misses the mark45:35 PE firms are cutting SDRs – what to run toward instead52:57 Retraining SDRs is easy. Leaders are the bottleneck55:40 Final take: value conversations, not meetings-----------------------------------------------------👥 Are you a B2B marketer in a small team??💰 Need to bring in more revenue for your company (so sales and your boss love you??)Get the:🔹 strategy🔹 templates🔹 toolsSo you have everything you need to drive more revenue for your brand.See why other B2B marketers like you love The B2B Incubatorhttps://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-courseS07 E199 - The B2B Playbook#b2b #b2bmarketing #digitalmarketing #demandgeneration #outboundsales