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Panelists Venia Logan | Matt Snell | Saleh Abdel Motaal Guests Aastha Bist Tola Ore-Aruwaji Shownotes [00:03:04] Aastha and Tola introduce themselves and talk about their projects. [00:05:21] Aastha and Tola tells us about their coding backgrounds and what interested them in their specific projects. [00:07:35] Aastha talks about the initial idea of her project and how it affects the CHAOSS metrics in the end. Tola tells us the idea of his project since it went in a different direction and how it came back around to metrics. [00:13:58] Saleh brings up how important it is to bring in the idea diversity and inclusion and how CHAOSS has managed to make a more inclusive open source body. [00:15:22] Aastha tells us how the idea for her project evolved from the start of Google Summer of Code, to the project end, and beyond. [00:21:03] Tola tells us about how his project got started. [00:26:59] Saleh touches on some of the common pains of developers. [00:29:34] Tola explains to us about the success with the translation process. [00:30:32] Venia asks Aastha and Tola what they enjoyed most about working on their projects and what the highlights were, and they explain. [00:34:51] Aastha and Tola tells us where the projects stand, how people can get involved, and what’s next. [00:39:38] Matt wants to know what Aastha and Tola’s next steps from here on out, with their projects and professional lives. Value Adds (Picks) of the week [00:43:16] Venia’s pick is ‘People Powered’ Book Club by Jono Bacon or any virtual book clubs around your local area. [00:43:57] Matt’s pick is a used amp for an old guitar-VOX Night Train. [00:44:28] Saleh’s pick is “Reflecting on My Autistic Self,” (Unlisted Medium Draft} [00:46:26] Aastha’s pick is conversations with my granddad. [00:47:52] Tola’s pick is protests in Nigeria- #EndSARS. Sponsor SustainOSS Links CHAOSS Project CHAOSS Project Twitter CHAOSScast Podcast CHAOSS Community Project Launch: CHAOSS Diversity & Inclusion Badging Program By Matt Snell CHAOSS Overview of the D&I Badging Aastha Bist Blog Aastha Bist Twitter Aastha Bist Linkedin Tola Ore-Aruwaji Twitter Tola Ore-Aruwaji Blog Tola Ore-Aruwaji Linkedin Aastha Bist GSoC 2020 final work report-CHAOSS Badging Project Tola Ore-Aruwaji-My Outreachy Project-Crowdsourcing Translation for CHAOSS Diversity & Inclusion Badging Jono Bacon People Powered Book Club VOX Night Train “Reflecting on My Autistic Self,” by Saleh Abdel Motaal BBC News-“SARS ban: Nigeria abolishes loathed federal special police unit” Google Summer of Code CHAOSS Mentorship Alumi (list of Mentees and their projects)Special Guests: Aastha Bist, Matt Snell, Saleh Abdel Motaal, and Tola Ore-Aruwaji.Support CHAOSScast

Panelists Georg Link | Brian Proffitt | Matt Germonprez Guest Stephen Jacobs Show Notes [00:03:18] Stephen tells us his background and how he got his start. [00:08:00] From his early experiences with One Laptop per Child, Stephen tells us some things that are still relevant today with the work he’s doing around open source and the connection between where he started and where he’s at today. [00:10:23] Brian asks Stephen if he has some immediate goals for the open source academic program that he’s continuing at RIT. [00:16:02] Matt wants to know if Stephen counsels people through the process of picking the right candidate for open source. Stephen also talks about modifying the IP policy or creating an IP policy dedicated to open source. [00:23:40] Talking about metrics now, there is a discussion about some challenges to overcome in metrics and the impact that the work in the open in software and other types of open has. [00:26:04] On the idea of a healthy community, Brian asks Stephen how he is addressing the challenges with working in an academic environment with students who are rotating every four to six years and accepting student contributions. [00:32:50] Stephen shares a story about his students working on an open project on a video chat program for One Laptop per Child, focusing on the needs of a deaf user. [00:34:52] Georg is curious if Stephen has thoughts on how we can show impact in what kind of metrics we might be able to develop to show that we are doing good things in the maintenance of work that is not originally our own. Stephen mentions a community of professors called, Teaching Open Source. [00:39:43] Stephen tells us where to find him online. Value Adds (Picks) of the week [00:37:00] Georg’s pick is a Crockpot. [00:37:16] Brian’s pick is being cognizant of your time since it’s the most valuable resource that you have. [00:38:07] Stephen’s pick is to be able to walk on his treadmill for sanity and physical health. [00:38:56] Matt’s pick is a shout out to the Omaha Humane Society who helped him find his lost puppy. Sponsor SustainOSS Links CHAOSS Project CHAOSS Project Twitter Rochester Institute of Technology-Open@RIT Stephen Jacobs One Laptop per Child TeachingOpenSource Crockpot Nebraska Humane SocietySpecial Guest: Stephen Jacobs.Support CHAOSScast

Panelists Venia Logan | Dylan Marcy Guests Ria Gupta | Venu Vardhan Reddy Tekula Show Notes [00:02:35] Ria and Venu introduce themselves and tell us how they got into CHAOSS. [00:04:34] Ria and Venu share with us how they found their projects and what is was like applying for Google Summer of Code. [00:07:27] Venu tells us all about what his project was in the Google Summer of Code. [00:08:50] Ria tells us all about what her project was in the Google Summer of Code. [00:10:05] Venu and Ria share with us how their projects started and what their experiences were in the Google Summer of Code. [00:12:24] Since Venu and Ria were working with similar systems, Dylan asks if at one point their two projects overlapped and they ended up working in the same area or with each other more directly. [00:14:14] Venia wants to know the most difficult parts of Ria and Venu’s projects and they tell us. [00:17:40] We find out how Ria and Venu feel about their end results and where they are in their projects right now. [00:23:35] Ria and Venu tells us what’s next for them since Google Summer of Code is over. [00:27:08] Venu shares one last thought about his project. Value Adds (Picks) of the week [00:29:42] Venia’s pick is a book called, Building Brand Communities by Carrie Melissa Jones and Charles Vogl. [00:30:39] Dylan’s pick is puppies. [00:32:23] Venu’s pick is amFOSS. [00:33:08] Ria’s pick is staying connected with friends and family. Links CHAOSS Project CHAOSS Project Twitter Implementing Social Currency Metric System in GrimoireLab-Ria Gupta Creating Quality models with GrimoireLab and CHAOSS metrics-Venu Vardhan Reddy Tekula Ria Gupta Twitter Ria Gupta-Blog Ria Gupta Linkedin Venu Vardhan Reddy Tekula Twitter Venu Vardhan Reddy Tekula Website Venu Vardhan Reddy Tekula Linkedin Venu Vardhan Reddy Tekula YouTube GrimoireLab Building Brand Communities: How Organizations Succeed by Creating Belonging-Carrie Melissa Jones and Charles Vogl amFOSSSpecial Guests: Dylan Marcy, Ria Gupta, and Venu Tekula.Support CHAOSScast

Panelists Venia Logan Guest Rob Underwood Show Notes [00:01:10] Rob tells us about himself, his career, and what he does at FINOS. [00:03:34] Rob talks about the culture and the environment that he built this tool in FINOS. [00:12:38] Rob tells us about being blessed in his career with some great mentors, and he shares a story about one. [00:16:34] We learn from Rob about the “tool” which is their board reporting and program health check. It is a rubric in order to present a set of criteria. [00:21:44] Venia summarizes the rubric. [00:23:21] Rob explains the philosophy behind selecting the metrics they did. [00:28:18] We find out what some of the metrics are which Rob calls “dimensions” and he explains each of these dimensions in detail. [00:34:58] Venia tells us to go to podcast.chaoss.community-Episode 11, if you’re looking to get involved in diversity and inclusion, which is a really great place to start. [00:37:38] Rob tells us about some big highlight metrics that he’s excited about. [00:46:35] We learn what the first step is toward community leaders implementing and adopting this tool in their own community [00:50:32] QIA process is mentioned by Venia. Value Adds (Picks) of the week [00:51:48] Rob’s pick is VOTE and wear a mask. [00:52:12] Venia’s pick is donate and contribute, especially to the people who are working on the front lines. Links: CHAOSS Project CHAOSS Project Twitter Rob Underwood Twitter FINOS AVC-FINOS (interesting last paragraph about diversity) FINOS Board Reporting and Program Health Checks (this is the tool for the projects) CSforAll Girls who code Black girls code FINOS Incubating FINOS Activation CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 11: Diversity & Inclusion with Emma IrwinSpecial Guest: Rob Underwood.Support CHAOSScast

Panelists Georg Link | Sean Goggins Guests Pratik Mishra Akshara P Sarit Adhikari Tianyi Show Notes [00:04:02] Sean tells us how he was a mentor to all these students and what they all did. [00:05:39] Each student will discuss their project, the machine learning they used, and the outcome they were able to generate. Pratik shares his project first, and Georg asks if he can just plug in any metrics, even as new ones are developed, and start seeing behavior. [00:10:09] Pratik tells us about clustering or label of activity and what this means. [00:12:16] Akshara talks about her project, what she implemented, and what she is able to do now that her work is complete. [00:19:43] Akshara talked about building a prediction model and Georg wonders if she tried out how accurate her prediction was and did she go out and actually predict probabilities and then observed over a week or two how likely those were to be merged. [00:20:55] Sarit talks about his project, what he worked on, and what he is able to do now that his project is complete. [00:25:11] Georg asks Sarit what he learned about open source projects and is there a way of interacting that is better than another. Also, what is the insight you can gain from this kind of analysis. Sarit also tells us how the conversation mechanism could be different. [00:28:26] Tianyi tells us about his project, what he worked on, which is different than the others, and what he is able to do now that his project is complete. [00:34:36] Georg asks Tianyi if he looked at the strength of connections between projects. He also wonders if there are any other insights that Tianyi got from looking at the most active GitHub repositories. [00:38:46] Tianyi interprets the clustering coefficient of 0.5 for us. [00:40:21] The students share their experiences from their projects, and they tell us if Google Summer of Code lived up to their expectations going into it. Picks [00:45:37] Georg’s pick is his new bike and going biking. [00:46:00] Sean’s pick is what is in scarce supply which is “silence.” (his kids are home all day doing virtual school ☺). [00:46:20] Sarit’s pick is a camping trip he took last week. [00:46:40] Akshara’s pick is finding time to have a virtual meet with her gang of friends form college. [00:47:34] Pratik’s pick is having a virtual meeting with his friends from college. [00:48:03] Tianyi’s pick is he took a vacation and went back home to spend time with his parents and grandma. Links CHAOSS Project CHAOSS Project Twitter Google Summer of Code Augur softwareSpecial Guests: Akshara P, Pratik Mishra, Sarit Adhikari, and Tianyi.Support CHAOSScast

Panelists Matt Broberg | Nicole Huesman | Foundjem Armstrong Guests Mary Thengvall Show Notes [00:01:48] Mary tells us all about herself and her job. [00:03:05] We find out from Mary what DevRel is. [00:05:20] Nicole asks Mary to talk the DevRel position being such a unique position and often people may want to apply traditional marketing metrics to the role and sometimes that doesn’t really work, so she explains why. [00:11:17] Matt wants to know how Mary handles the organization that is so used to trying to build these metaphorical engines everywhere and how do you try to explain DevRel from a data perspective if you don’t have the same easy metaphor available to you. She brings up the “Orbit Model.” [00:17:53] Armstrong asks Mary if this is a different kind of MetaMetrics that captures different forms of metrics and tries to present it to a different audience. [00:22:17] Mary tells us her thoughts on the whole notion of the unintended consequences of metrics or measurement, which is always a hot topic. [00:29:06] We learn how management measures Mary’s success and how does she evaluate her performance. [00:32:10] Mary tells us what she would like to see from the CHAOSS Project and how does she see the CHAOSS Project being helpful from a DevRel perspective. Picks [00:35:08] Mary has two picks: a book called, Working in Public, _by Nadia Eghbal and a video game, _Horizon Zero Dawn. [00:36:53 Armstrong’s pick is Ordy cartoon. [00:37:38] Nicole has two picks: I AM C-3PO and A Famous Dog’s Life (Audiobooks). [00:38:48] Matt’s pick is the research of George Lakoff and his book, _Metaphors We Live By. _ Sponsor Honeybadger Links CHAOSS Project CHAOSS Project Twitter Mary Thengvall Website/Blog Mary Thengvall Twitter Mary Thengvall Instagram Camunda The Business Value of Developer Relations by Mary Thengvall The Orbit Model-GitHub “DevRel Qualified Leads: Repurposing A Common Business Metric To Prove Value,” by Mary Thengvall Working in Public: The Making and Maintenance of Open Source Software by Nadia Eghbal Horizon Zero Dawn-Steam Ordy Cartoon I AM C-3PO (Audiobook) A Famous Dog’s Life (Audiobook) Metaphors We Live By- George Lakoff George Lakoff WebsiteSpecial Guest: Mary Thengvall.Support CHAOSScast

Show Notes [00:02:42] Antonio tells us how he got to IOTA and what his journey was like. [00:04:54] We learn about a contest Antonio won and how important it was getting the job as Community Manager at IOTA. He also tells us what skills you need to make money. [00:10:47] Sean asks Antonio how he approaches his role as a Community Manager in that context since it’s so diverse. [00:13:17] Daniel wants to know if Antonio is using other types of metrics that are more related to serving the community or interviewing specific people. He also tells where he heard about GrimoreLab. [00:17:45] With 300,000 community members as a Community Manager, Sean asks Antonio how many projects, communities, and repositories he is trying to keep track of. [00:20:07] Antonio talks about his approach to identifying who is in his community. [00:23:51] We learn about the metrics Antonio is using. [00:27:00] Sean asks Antonio when he looks at the metrics, are there things that block him from getting certain information and are there questions that you want to answer but can’t. [00:29:10] Antonio mentions needing to be out in the community and do some social listening, and Georg has a suggestion on how the CHAOSS project handles this with their social currency metrics system. [00:32:16] Daniel has some advice to share about how he was looking at different projects on how to make open source self-sustainable. [00:36:56] Antonio shares with us what it means to him when he talks about a healthy community. [00:40:19] Antonio tells us where we can find him on the internet. Picks [00:41:24] Georg’s pick is his husband and if you have someone that brings joy to your life just cherish that. [00:42:13] Sean’s pick is Routine. [00:42:50] Daniel’s pick is Seneca (ancient Roman philosopher). [00:43:46] Antonio’s pick is Rejection and Living the dream. Picks Honeybadger Hosts Georg Link | Sean Goggins | Daniel Izquierdo Guist Antonio Nardella Links Antonio Nardella Twitter IOTA Discord IOTA CHAOSScast Podcast- Episode 2 “Social Currency Metric System.” Seneca the Younger Special Guest: Antonio Nardella.Support CHAOSScast

Panelists Georg Link | Armstrong Foundjem Guest Silona Bonewald Show Notes [00:01:52] Silona tells us about herself and her background. [00:03:21] Silona discusses being a big believer of “Gang of Four Patterns.” [00:05:38] Georg asks Silona how she thinks about measuring all these different parts of the community. She tells us one of the biggest compliments she got from someone at PayPal. [00:10:18] We learn how the metrics were collected and she tells us they started open planning. She also tells us if there was a consequence of separating the group into two different groups to measure the metrics and how the evaluation was. [00:15:09] Silona has “confessional” time and talks about Drupal. [00:19:45] We hear about Silona not having active disagreement, but passive disagreement. She shares a funny story. [00:24:18] Georg wants to know how is that feedback group when you’re looking at a metric community within your community, how do you show that you’re being effective and then secure more resources to continue growing. [00:27:05] How can CHAOSS help, what do you see CHAOSS’s role in open source ecosystem, and how would you like CHAOSS to evolve to get the most out of it. [00:31:04] Georg brings up InnerSource Commons and how Silona is doing some amazing work to document the best practices and patterns to help organizations adopt. She lets us know how she works in the open in a collaborative way. [00:34:28] Silona talks about standards and wanting to raise the maturity level of open source and standards has some really awesome processes for a lot of that. [00:37:08] Silona tells us where we can find her and her work on the internet. Value Adds (Picks) of the week [00:38:59] Georg’s pick is buying a piece of land. [00:39:48] Armstrong’s pick is All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy: Take time off work and enjoy the quietness of nature. [00:40:21] Silona’s pick is having to grow my team this week by hiring six new people. Sponsor Honeybadger Links CHAOSS Project CHAOSS Project Twitter Silona Bonewald Twitter Dries Buytaert blog post on Makers and Takers in Open Source Hyperledger’s “Community Groups” InnerSource Patterns-GitHub IEEE SA Open GitLabSpecial Guest: Silona Bonewald.Support CHAOSScast

Panelists Matt Broberg | Daniel Izquierdo | Armstrong Foundjem Guest Stormy Peters Show Notes [00:02:46] Stormy tells us what is an OSPO providing a company. She also tells us what kind of skills you need to be in an OSPO. [00:05:43] Matt asks Stormy if there are certain organizations that she’s noticed or has there been a pattern of adoption of OSPO’s as a part of the org chart. She also talks about Microsoft. [00:08:22] Since Stormy has been at Microsoft a year now, she tells us her journey at Microsoft and what she’s bringing to the organization that’s going down this line of an open source evolution. [00:09:28] Daniel asks Stormy if OSPO is an effect of a company becoming more open source friendly, so a good open source citizen, or is this procreated by companies willing to be open source citizens. Stormy goes into the inner source functionality as well. [00:13:56] Armstrong wants to know Stormy has any concern about what you can measure, and do you measure any metrics? He also asks if she knows about obsolete assumptions and if she’s ever encountered any. [00:21:00] Daniel talks about how metrics are like colors, talking to people like different metrics, different colors, and probably one of the main reasons OSPO exists because we need the strategy. He also gives some recommendations. [00:25:03] Armstrong brings up a good point about some people in life are color blind and giving organizations or any ecosystem at this certain metrics, we tend to be color blind to avoid measuring or we don’t want to measure, and Daniel said he has seen this behavior. [00:28:22] Stormy tells us the OSPO’s role. [00:30:45] Matt is curious as to what Stormy’s day to day is like when it comes to balancing all these different demands internally for open source expertise. He also wonders how she differentiates value as you’re looking at projects and how do you determine whether this is a valuable open source project for a business. The guys also share some advice of their own on how they perceive value. [00:33:02] Armstrong shares some great advice here about having more diversity in projects. [00:38:32] Daniel tells us what he looks out for as he’s evaluating valuable projects. [00:41:23] Thinking about value, Matt wants to know something Stormy appreciates when she comes across an open source project. Picks [00:42:47] Stormy’s value add is how our work is changing and how we’re making it better and more efficient. [00:44:29] Armstrong’s value add is walk and drink water. [00:45:39] Daniel’s value add is asking how he can organize himself. Stormy and Matt have some ideas for him (linked below). [00:47:36] Matt’s value add is fiddling with dotfiles and a project called, “Chez Moi” that helps. Sponsor Honeybadger Links CHAOSS Project CHAOSS Project Twitter Stormy Peters Twitter Chezmoi-GitHub “Microsoft Analyzed Data On It’s Newly Remote Workforce”-Harvard Business Review Habitica App Atomic Habits: An Easy & Proven Way to Build Good Habits & Break Bad Ones by James Clear Credits Produced by: Rebase.fm Edited by: Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound Show notes by DeAnn Bahr at Peachtree Sound Ad Sales by Eric Berry at Rebase.fm Support CHAOSSSpecial Guest: Stormy Peters.Support CHAOSScast

Panelists Venia | Don | Matt Germonprez Guest Chris Mercer Show Notes [00:02:25] Mercer tells us what exactly MeasurementMarketing is. [00:04:47] Matt asks Mercer how he filters through all of the digital data that’s available to us to make sure that this is somehow meaningful as a great tool. [00:08:09] Don brings up Facebook’s instructions on digital marketing 101 and wants to know if that’s a thing that can be done. He also wants to know from a competitive point of view if Mercer is concerned about data going over to other companies that be better positioned to use it. [00:14:21] Matt asks Mercer, in this highly dynamic landscape that he’s working in what are the ways that he goes about learning in this space. [00:20:18] Looking at next generations of technology, Don asks Mercer if he’s looked at any of the proposed replacements for the third-party cookie at all, like Google’s Flock and TURTLEDOVE. Also, he wonders if there’s a metric for how measurable your audience is, kind of like a meta metric of how well the metrics work. [00:28:32] Mercer goes through a few things that he thinks are most important for people who are trying to measure their communities and what should they know. [00:37:04] Mercer explains one of his “ism’s” called “Results on How.” [00:42:52] Venia wants to discuss how these theories and how the future of measurement Mercer has outlined it, is really going to impact CHAOSS. CHAOSS is providing so many metrics of giant toolbox and all of these communities that we’re looking to measure have to find that journey, have to use those pillars, so how do you think this will impact what CHAOSS looks like? Picks [00:49:33] Matt’s value add is he’s been running with his new dog to keep the brain clear. [00:50:22] Don’s value add is spring cleaning and using a new tool called Earthly. [00:51:05] Venia’s value add is the importance of building out an information diet. [00:52:02] Mercer’s value add’s are walking on a treadmill and a start-up called “Knowhere.” Quotes [00:31:18] “So, that’s the kind of journey that you go through and your job is not to create this massive gigantic implementation of just because you can, you should. That’s not how it is. You deal with the questions that you are trying to answer, and you build your implementation to answer those questions. Then you will start asking bigger questions naturally and then your implementation will improve to answer those, and then you keep doing that and the journey.” [00:34:15] “Truth is in the trend; power is in the pattern.” Sponsor Honeybadger Links CHAOSS Project CHAOSS Project Twitter MeasurementMarketing-Chris Mercer Earthly Knowhere News Credits Produced by: Rebase.fm Edited by: Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound Show notes by DeAnn Bahr at Peachtree Sound Ad Sales by Eric Berry at Rebase.fm Support CHAOSSSpecial Guest: Chris Mercer.Support CHAOSScast