

Truth, Lies and Work
HubSpot Podcast Network
Truth, Lies & Work is the UK's #1 Management Podcast.Brought to you by the HubSpot Podcast Network, this award-winning podcast is where behavioural science meets workplace culture. Hosted by Chartered Occupational Psychologist Leanne Elliott and business owner Al Elliott, the show has reached #2 in the UK Business Podcast Charts and consistently ranks as a Top 10 trending business podcast globally.With a unique blend of evidence-based insight and lived experience, Leanne and Al simplify the science of people and culture to help leaders attract, engage, and retain great talent.Episodes drop twice a week. Tuesdays feature a global people and culture news round-up, a hot take from an emerging or established voice, and the world-famous Workplace Surgery—where Leanne answers real listener questions with practical advice. Thursdays dive deeper with expert guests from across the business and psychology worlds, sharing fresh perspectives and actionable strategies.Whether you're scaling a startup or leading a large team, Truth, Lies & Work delivers the tools, thinking, and inspiration to build thriving, toxic-free workplaces that prioritise well-being and drive sustainable growth.Also, the hosts are married—so expect unfiltered honesty, occasional banter, and a real-life lens on work and life.
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Jan 13, 2023 • 1h 7min
21. How to Prevent Burnout: Recognising the Pandemic You Didn’t See Coming (Part 2 of 2)
Is burnout the next global pandemic? In Part 1 of this 2-part series, we learned that we could be on track to lose more than half of our workforce due to absenteeism and turnover as a result of burnout. For businesses to survive, and thrive, well-being and burnout prevention need to be at the top of the agenda.In Part 2, we welcome back our panel of expert guests, including
Cait Donovan, Burnout Coach & Host of Fried: The Burnout Podcast
William Hasek, PhD, Board Certified Clinical Psychologist
Sally Clarke - Burnout and Well-being Researcher, Expert and Best-Selling Author
Taking a practical view of burnout in a workplace setting, we discuss:
How to know if your team is burnt out and what signs to look out for
Why burnout happens
The commercial impact of burnout
How to prevent burnout
5 Recommendations to improve well-being and prevent burnout
Resources to help you and your business thrive
Links:Read The State of Burnout 2023 Report:https://infinite-potential.com.au/the-state-of-burnout-2023Cait Donovan
Website: https://caitdonovan.com/speaking
Request a conversation: https://caitdonovan.as.me/inquiry
Listen to Fried: The Burnout Podcast: https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com
Join the Fried Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/friedtheburnoutpodcast
Watch Cait’s Speaker Reel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPTLgV7FU-I
Follow Cait on Instagram: @friedtheburnoutpodcast
William Hasek LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/williamhasek/
Sally Clarke
Website: https://www.salcla.com/
Twitter: @salcla
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sallyclarkeevolve/
Instagram: @salcla.
For more on psychological safety, check out 'The Secret to Building Great Teams with Stephan Wiedner:https://chrt.fm/track/28555/traffic.megaphone.fm/HS6779121311.mp3?updated=1670331446For more on the RX7, go to Oblonghq.com and book your free consultationhttps://oblonghq.com/book/For bonus content, full interviews and sneak peeks of future episodes, follow us on LinkedIn, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok and YouTube @TruthLiesWork

Jan 10, 2023 • 56min
20. What is Burnout?: Recognising the Pandemic You Didn’t See Coming (Part 1 of 2)
Is burnout the next global pandemic? Rates of burnout are on the rise. The State of Workplace Burnout 2023 Report found an increase in burnout rates from 29.6% in 2020 to 38.1% in 2022. We could be on track to lose more than half of our workforce due to absenteeism and turnover as a result of burnout. How do we stop it?In this episode, we speak to a panel of expert guests, including:
Cait Donovan, Burnout Coach & Host of Fried: The Burnout Podcast
William Hasek, PhD, Board Certified Clinical Psychologist
Sally Clarke, Burnout and Well-being Researcher, Expert and Best-Selling Author
Facing bravely into a complex and emotional topic, we cover:
What is burnout, really?
The difference between burnout and a bad day
If some people/roles are more susceptible than others
Burnout and the ‘snowflake’ generation
How to tell if you’re burnt out, with real-life examples.
Stay tuned for Part 2 and more from our expert guests about how burnout will affect our businesses if we don’t act now.Links:Read The State of Burnout 2023 Report:https://infinite-potential.com.au/the-state-of-burnout-2023Cait Donovan
Website: https://caitdonovan.com/speaking
Request a conversation: https://caitdonovan.as.me/inquiry
Listen to Fried: The Burnout Podcast: https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com
Join the Fried Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/friedtheburnoutpodcast
Watch Cait’s Speaker Reel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPTLgV7FU-I
Follow Cait on Instagram: @friedtheburnoutpodcast
William Hasek LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/williamhasek/
Sally Clarke
Website: https://www.salcla.com/
Twitter: @salcla
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sallyclarkeevolve/
Instagram: @salcla/
Keywords: burnout, people, burnt out, stress, clinical definition, workplace, research, pandemic, world health organisation, careers, emotional exhaustion

Jan 4, 2023 • 49min
19. 2023 Predictions in People & Culture (Part 2 of 2)
In the second part of our predictions series, Al & Leanne make their predictions about what will happen in the world of People & Culture in 2023.In this episode, we cover:
Why transparency is going to be vital in 2023
How we can use technology to manager burnout
What role wearables might have in well-being
How a culture of well-being could reduce salary expectations
How hybrid and remote working will change in 2023
What we should do in terms of diversity & inclusion
The single best investment you can make in your team
Search your favourite podcast player for episode 1.Links:You can find Leanne on LinkedIn and Twitter.The book Al was trying to recall and couldn't is Nobody Wants to Read your Sh*t by Steven Pressfield.For bonus content, full interviews and sneak peeks of future episodes, follow us on LinkedIn, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok and YouTube

Dec 29, 2022 • 46min
18. 2023 People & Culture Predictions: Key Trends for Leaders (Part 1 of 2)
In part 1 of 2, Al & Leanne make their predictions about what will happen in the world of People & Culture in 2023.Part 2 will be out in the first week of January.Links:You can find Leanne on LinkedIn and TwitterFor bonus content, full interviews and sneak peeks of future episodes, follow us on LinkedIn, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok and YouTube

Dec 20, 2022 • 51min
17. Who Is Leanne Elliott?: The Truth Behind the Psychologist - Our Co-Host’s Story
Leanne's been a Business Psychologist for almost 15 years, but unlike a lot of her peers, she's spent 8+ years in the field as a leader and manager, actually implementing the theory she learnt in her Master's degree.This is the untold story of your co-host of the Truth, Lies & Workplace Culture Podcast. We’re a few episodes in and realised we’ve never taken the time to introduce ourselves. In the second of a 2-part series, we dive deep into the life and career of Leanne Elliott, Co-Founder of Oblong and your co-host (and expert) for the Truth, Lies and Workplace Culture Podcast.Join us as we discuss:
Leanne's best and worst day as a manager
The difference between a manager and a leader
The path to being a successful leader
The 7 mistakes most managers make (and how to avoid them)
Her hero (John) who she learnt so much from
Why the science of people is not 'fluff'
The only 7 things you need to think about when developing a culture of well-being and engagement
Why the vision of the organisation is the most important first step
Links:You can find Leanne on LinkedIn and TwitterFor bonus content, full interviews and sneak peeks of future episodes, follow us on LinkedIn, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok and YouTube

Dec 13, 2022 • 1h 3min
16. Who is Al Elliott?: Award-Winning Business Owner To Bankruptcy And Back - Our Co-Host’s Story
In 2005, Al Elliott was named in the Top 42 entrepreneurs Under 42 in the UK. By 2007 he was bankrupt for £103,000. By 2008 he’d built an ethically-driven multimillion-pound property business, a portfolio that he still holds today. This is the untold story of your co-host of the Truth, Lies & Workplace Culture Podcast. We’re a few episodes in and realised we’ve never taken the time to introduce ourselves. In the first of a 2-part series, we dive deep into the life and career of Al Elliott, Co-Founder of Oblong, Gladstone Property Group and the Truth, Lies and Workplace Culture Podcast.Join us as we discuss:
The DNA of an entrepreneur
The path to rapid success and media fame
How being right led to bankruptcy
Fighting back with business #2…during a recession
Why the mantra ‘Be rich, not right’ changed everything…
Links:You can find Al on LinkedIn and TwitterFor bonus content, full interviews and sneak peeks of future episodes, follow us on LinkedIn, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok and YouTube

Dec 6, 2022 • 58min
15. What is Psychological Safety? (And Why Should You Care?), with Stephan Wiedner from Zarango.com
Creative, innovative, high-performing teams with positive well-being that are engaged and committed to your business - every leader's dream, right?How to engage and motivate teams can seem complicated, but research shows us there is one factor more important than any other: Psychological Safety.Join us as we explore how to build teams that contribute positively to your workplace culture and performance, every day, with our guest expert Stephan Wiedner.Stephan is CEO of Zarango.com and Noomii.com, which are consultancy firms that train and coach business people on how to create and sustain a high-performance work environment through psychological safety. With a vision to help build a world in which everyone has the courage to speak up and be heard, Stephan explains how employee voice is the driving force of competitive advantage and sustainable success.Links:
You can find Stephan on LinkedIn and Twitter
Claim Your Free Psychological Safety Assessment at zarango.com
Hear more from Harvard Professor Amy Edmondson including her book The Fearless Organization, TedX Talk and latest academic research
Learn more about Google’s Project Aristotle
For bonus content, full interviews and sneak peeks of future episodes, follow us on LinkedIn, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok and YouTube

Nov 29, 2022 • 1h 1min
14. How Not to Be a Psychopath with Expert Sandy Mckenzie
Let's just get this out of the way - although our last 3 episodes have been about Elon Musk and Twitter, we're not singling him out!However, at the time of release, he is arguably the most famous leader in the world, so any psychological lessons on behaviour and personality are easily demonstrated by using him as an example.In this jam-packed episode, we are joined by expert guest Sandy McKenzie.Sandy is the managing partner of Amrop UK, an Executive Search & Human Capital Advisory firm, and he also is a fully qualified practitioner for Hogan Development Surveys, which measure the behaviours and personalities of leaders.Links
You can find Sandy on the Amrop website or on LinkedIn.
The Hogan Development Survey for Elon is here

Nov 22, 2022 • 27min
13. How to Support Your Team Through Redundancy: Lessons from the Twitter Layoffs (Part 2 of 2)
In the previous episode, we left things on a bit of a bombshell - the Global Head of Wellness at Twitter was unsure if Twitter would survive!Following Elon's acquisition of Twitter on the 27th of October 2022, he promptly fired almost 50% of the staff. However, it's how he did it that has angered people.In this episode, we continue our conversations with our experts and look more into the impact of these layoffs.
We get the expert opinion on how the brand and PR were handled from Stephen Waddington, a PR guru, the visiting professor of PR for Newcastle University and a former head of CIPR.
We get the Twitter inside story from Dr Candice Schaefer, a Licensed Clinical Psychologist & Mental Health and Wellness Strategist, and until earlier this year the Global Head of Employee Wellness at Twitter.
We learn best the practice for managing crisis from Arun Krishnakumar, Graduate of the University of Oxford & London School of Economics, and author of 'Restaup: A Founders Guide to Crisis Navigation'.
Leanne tells her story of how she was made redundant and outlines some great ways to deal with it.
Let's get stuck in!Links:You can find Steven Waddington on Twitter, on LinkedIn or subscribe to his newsletter here.You can follow Dr Candice Schaefer on Twitter or LinkedIn.You can see Arun Krishnakumar's articles on LinkedIn or follow him on Twitter. His book is available on Amazon here.

Nov 15, 2022 • 59min
12. What Led to Twitter's Layoffs? Uncovering the Truth (Part 1 of 2)
Well... it's been quite the month for the tech industry.Following Elon's acquisition of Twitter on the 27th of October 2022, he promptly fired almost 50% of the staff. However, it's how he did it that has angered people.In this episode we have exclusive interviews with 3 industry insiders:
We get the expert opinion on how the brand and PR were handled from Stephen Waddington, a PR guru, the visiting professor of PR for Newcastle University and a former head of CIPR.
We get the Twitter inside story from Dr Candice Schaefer, a Licensed Clinical Psychologist & Mental Health and Wellness Strategist, and until earlier this year the Global Head of Employee Wellness at Twitter.
We learn best the practice for managing crisis from Arun Krishnakumar, Graduate of the University of Oxford & London School of Economics, and author of 'Restaup: A Founders Guide to Crisis Navigation'.
Let's get stuck in!UPDATE: Part 2 out now!Links:You can find Steven Waddington on Twitter, on LinkedIn or subscribe to his newsletter here.You can follow Dr Candice Schaefer on Twitter or LinkedIn.You can see Arun Krishnakumar's articles on LinkedIn or follow him on Twitter. His book is available on Amazon here.


