

Truth, Lies and Work
HubSpot Podcast Network
Truth, Lies & Work is the UK's #1 Management Podcast.Brought to you by the HubSpot Podcast Network, this award-winning podcast is where behavioural science meets workplace culture. Hosted by Chartered Occupational Psychologist Leanne Elliott and business owner Al Elliott, the show has reached #2 in the UK Business Podcast Charts and consistently ranks as a Top 10 trending business podcast globally.With a unique blend of evidence-based insight and lived experience, Leanne and Al simplify the science of people and culture to help leaders attract, engage, and retain great talent.Episodes drop twice a week. Tuesdays feature a global people and culture news round-up, a hot take from an emerging or established voice, and the world-famous Workplace Surgery—where Leanne answers real listener questions with practical advice. Thursdays dive deeper with expert guests from across the business and psychology worlds, sharing fresh perspectives and actionable strategies.Whether you're scaling a startup or leading a large team, Truth, Lies & Work delivers the tools, thinking, and inspiration to build thriving, toxic-free workplaces that prioritise well-being and drive sustainable growth.Also, the hosts are married—so expect unfiltered honesty, occasional banter, and a real-life lens on work and life.
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Feb 3, 2026 • 59min
272. What if work was about purpose, not survival? With Louise Hill, Founder of GoHenry, and Ruth Handcock OBE, CEO of Octopus Money
A LinkedIn Live conversation on money confidence, risk and the future of careers
Over the last few years, work has quietly shifted from ambition to survival.
Rising living costs, economic uncertainty, layoffs and AI have changed how people make career decisions. Instead of taking risks or pursuing meaningful work, many are staying put not because they want to, but because it feels safer to stay. The media has called this the Big Stay or job-hugging.
Why these two perspectives together
Louise and Ruth operate at different, but deeply connected, points in the system.
Louise works at the earliest stage, where money beliefs, habits and confidence are formed in childhood and adolescence.
Ruth works at the adult decision-making stage, where financial confidence shapes career risk-taking, leadership progression, entrepreneurship and long-term wellbeing.
Together, they offer an end-to-end view of how money confidence shapes working lives.
Why money confidence often matters more than income when it comes to career choices
How financial insecurity quietly shapes promotions, leadership ambition and risk-taking
Why people from less affluent backgrounds are less likely to take career risks, even when highly capable
How early money beliefs follow people into adulthood and the workplace
Why financial wellbeing is the most neglected pillar of workplace wellbeing
What leaders and organisations can do to reduce fear-driven decision-making without being intrusive
What you’ll learn in this episode
This conversation reframes financial literacy not as budgeting or products, but as freedom, confidence and optionality.
Money confidence influences:
Who feels able to negotiate, speak up or take risks
Who progresses into leadership roles
Who starts businesses or new ventures
Who opts out, plays safe or stays stuck
Why this matters for leaders and organisations
For leaders concerned about engagement, retention, wellbeing, DEI and social mobility, this episode highlights a hidden but powerful driver of workplace behaviour.
About our guests
Louise Hill
Co-founder of GoHenry, a financial education platform helping children and young people build money confidence from an early age.
🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louise-hill-5197614/
🔗 GoHenry: https://www.gohenry.com
Ruth Handcock
CEO of Octopus Money, supporting adults and employees to make confident financial decisions about work, life and the future.
🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ruth-handcock-obe-71b3656/
🔗 Octopus Money: https://octopusmoney.com
🎧 Who this episode is for
Leaders and managers worried about engagement, retention and risk-aversion
HR and People teams focused on wellbeing, DEI and social mobility
Parents thinking about the long-term impact of money conversations at home
Employees feeling cautious, stuck or unable to take career risks
Founders and policymakers interested in innovation and economic participation
💬 Connect with Truth, Lies & Work
Website: https://truthliesandwork.com
Email: hello@truthliesandwork.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/truth-lies-and-work
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truthlieswork
Connect with the hosts
Al Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alelliott/
Leanne Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leanneelliott/
🧠 Mental health support
If this conversation brings anything up for you:
UK & ROI: Samaritans — 116 123 | https://www.samaritans.org
US: Suicide & Crisis Lifeline — 988 | https://988lifeline.org
Australia: Lifeline — 13 11 14 | https://www.lifeline.org.au
Elsewhere: https://findahelpline.com

Jan 29, 2026 • 1h 1min
271: "This Is and Will Always Be the Best Place I've Ever Worked", with Gemma & Xav from Studio XAG
Xavier Shariff, co-founder and managing director who steers operations and delivery, and Gemma Ruse, co-founder and creative director who leads visionary studio work. They tell the story of starting from freelancing, building a 60-person experiential studio, and choosing sustainable growth. Conversations cover crafting culture through great work, balancing creative and practical roles, and their rule: disagree in the room, commit outside the room.

Jan 27, 2026 • 55min
270. Is flexible work actually fair? PLUS! Corporate politics, motivating Gen X and the truth about learning styles
Welcome back to Truth, Lies & Work — the podcast where behavioural science meets real working life.
This week, we’re asking a simple question with uncomfortable answers: who really gets flexibility, who’s trusted around AI, and what psychology myths are still shaping work decisions?
🔥 Stories covered
1. Who actually gets flexible work — and why
Leanne introduces a new term this week: i-deals — short for idiosyncratic deals. These are personalised, one-to-one flexibility arrangements negotiated privately between employees and managers.
📄 Research source:https://bpspsychub.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/joop.70084
2. When corporate politics becomes the real job
Al brings a thread from X this week by an account called IT_Unprofessional, written by an IT Director earning around $280k a year. He describes what he calls a “corporate survival guide” — not about technical excellence, but about navigating power, perception and incentives.
3. Why banks are hiring behavioural scientists for AI roles
After one of the toughest recruitment years since 2008, UK financial services firms are hiring again — and not just technologists.
The concern isn’t AI failure. It’s human behaviour around AI — over-trust, automation bias, and quiet deference to systems that sound confident but may be wrong.
🔗 Reporting:https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/banks-ai-experts-worried-misuse-5HjdRJS_2/
🔥 Truth or Lie💬
People learn better when teaching matches their learning style
Visual learner. Auditory learner. Kinaesthetic learner. The idea is everywhere.
Leanne breaks down decades of evidence and explains:
Preferences exist
Enjoyment increases when preferences are met
Learning outcomes do not reliably improve
The verdict: Lie.
What matters is the material, not the learner label. And learning that feels harder is often more effective.
Workplace Surgery
This week we tackle:
How to motivate a team nearing retirement without patronising them
What to do when a career coach crosses ethical lines
Whether employee NPS is a meaningful measure of engagement
We explore motivation, power, boundaries and what good evidence actually supports.
🎧 Coming up Thursday
We’re joined by Gemma Ruse and Xavier Sheriff, co-founders of Studio XAG, to talk about building a people-first agency, becoming a B Corp, and what it’s really like running a business with the person you’re married to.
💬 Connect with Truth, Lies & Work
Website: https://truthliesandwork.com
Email: hello@truthliesandwork.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/truth-lies-and-work
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truthlieswork
Connect with the hosts
Al Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alelliott/
Leanne Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leanneelliott/
🧠 Mental health support
UK & ROI: Samaritans — 116 123 | https://www.samaritans.org
US: Suicide & Crisis Lifeline — 988 | https://988lifeline.org
Australia: Lifeline — 13 11 14 | https://www.lifeline.org.au
Elsewhere: https://findahelpline.com

Jan 22, 2026 • 47min
269. Why Truth is Funny: 7x Emmy Winner Beth Sherman on Building Trust at Work
Beth Sherman, a seven-time Emmy-winning comedy writer turned leadership trainer, shares how observational humor builds rapid rapport. She explains why truth creates connection. Short, practical ideas on using humor safely, spotting audience cues, and bringing humanity to leadership and sales.

Jan 20, 2026 • 54min
268. Does complaining at work rewire your brain? PLUS! Gen Z growth hunting, wellbeing perks and how to manifest success
Welcome back to Truth, Lies & Work, the podcast where behavioural science meets workplace culture.
This week we’re exploring what employees and leaders are really looking for at work right now — and how it’s shaping leadership behaviour, burnout, employee wellbeing, and workplace culture.
🔥 Stories covered
Why are Gen Z leaving jobs so quickly?
According to a Fast Company article by Jeff LeBlanc, Gen Z workers aren’t job-hopping out of disloyalty. They’re growth hunting.
The research shows:
Nearly half of Gen Z plan to leave roles for better growth, not higher pay
86% won’t upskill without employer funding
43% feel too burnt out to learn outside work hours
Cost, not motivation, is the biggest barrier to development
This reflects a wider shift in workplace expectations. When organisations talk about growth but don’t support it structurally, people move on. Gen Z isn’t rejecting work — they’re rejecting stagnation.
🔗 https://www.fastcompany.com/91452297/the-rise-of-growth-hunting-why-gen-z-changes-jobs-so-oftengenz-job-hopping
Jeff previously joined Truth, Lies & Work to discuss Gen Z, burnout, and leadership psychology: https://truthliesandwork.com/episodes/207-what-happens-when-leaders-start-being-kind-with-jeff-leblanc
You can also explore his book Engaged Empathy Leadership for practical, science-backed management advice: https://www.amazon.com/Engaged-Empathy-Leadership-Redefining-Action-ebook/dp/B0FCGSC48C
Does complaining at work make teams less resilient?
Research highlighted by Stanford suggests that repeated complaining rewires the brain.
Over time:
Neural pathways linked to stress and threat detection strengthen
Baseline stress levels rise
Small irritations feel bigger
Negativity becomes automatic
For leaders, this matters. Teams that normalise constant complaining may unintentionally reduce resilience, decision-making quality, and psychological safety.
🔗 https://x.com/shiningscience/status/2013113758386987099
What employee wellbeing benefits actually reduce burnout?
After a LinkedIn post went viral, Slate introduced a $200 monthly cleaning stipend for employees.
Why this matters for employee wellbeing:
It removes friction instead of adding effort
It gives people time and mental space back
It supports carers and those under chronic time pressure
Research consistently links cluttered environments to higher stress
This reframes wellbeing away from “one more thing to do” and towards burnout prevention.
🔗 https://fortune.com/2026/01/15/company-adds-cleaning-services-as-employee-benefit-what-hr-leaders-can-learn/
🔥 Truth or Lie
Can you manifest success just by visualising it?
Lie — if it’s about imagining outcomes alone.Truth — when visualisation is used to plan actions and effort.
Psychology shows visualising the process increases follow-through. Imagining success without action often reduces motivation.
💬 Workplace Surgery — practical management advice
This week we answer:
What’s the earliest sign of burnout before someone admits it?
Is it genuinely hard to find a good manager?
If you hate your job and feel stuck, what’s the first practical step?
🎧 Coming up Thursday
We’re joined by Beth Sherman to explore how humour builds trust, rapport, and confident decision-making at work.
💬 Connect with Truth, Lies & Work
Website: https://truthliesandwork.com
Email: hello@truthliesandwork.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/truth-lies-and-work
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truthlieswork
Al Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alelliott/
Leanne Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leanneelliott/
🧠 Mental health support
UK & ROI: Samaritans — 116 123 | https://www.samaritans.org
US: Suicide & Crisis Lifeline — 988 | https://988lifeline.org
Australia: Lifeline — 13 11 14 | https://www.lifeline.org.au
Elsewhere: https://findahelpline.com

Jan 15, 2026 • 46min
267. How to build a business bigger than you, with Dustin Hillis
Most founders pride themselves on being “high-capacity”.
The person who can sell, operate, strategise, and firefight all at once.
But there’s a point where that strength quietly becomes the problem.
In this episode, Al and Leanne are joined by Dustin Hillis, a serial entrepreneur and executive coach who has led businesses from early-stage chaos through to $100m-plus scale, and is now building again at a much bigger level.
Dustin’s core message is simple, but uncomfortable:what gets you to your first milestone will not get you to the next one.
Unless leaders change how they work, think, and let go, they become the bottleneck that holds everything back.
This is a long-form, honest conversation about growth, power, systems, and the emotional reality of leadership that rarely gets talked about.
🔍 What you’ll learn in this episode
Why working harder eventually stops working, and what replaces it
How leaders unintentionally burn out their best people by turning them into “catch-alls”
Why systems don’t kill creativity, but reduce fear and create capacity
What actually changes at £1m, £10m, £100m and beyond
The power dynamics that quietly derail teams as money and authority increase
Why “pruning” underperformance is painful but essential for healthy cultures
How to stop being the centre of everything without losing control
Dustin acts as a guide through the messy middle of growth, grounded in lived experience rather than theory.
📘 About the book
Dustin is the author of Capacity: Building Your Business Bigger Than You, a practical exploration of how leaders build organisations that no longer depend on them to function.
🔗 Connect with Dustin
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dustinhillis/
Website: https://dustinhillis.com
💬 Connect with the hosts
Al Elliotthttps://www.linkedin.com/in/alelliott/
Leanne Elliotthttps://www.linkedin.com/in/leanneelliott/
🎧 Connect with Truth, Lies & Work
Website: https://truthliesandwork.com
Email: hello@truthliesandwork.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/truth-lies-and-work
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truthlieswork
Have a workplace dilemma or question? Get in touch — it may feature in a future episode.
🧠 Mental health support
If this episode brings up difficult feelings, support is available:
UK: Samaritans — call 116 123 or visit https://www.samaritans.org
US: Suicide & Crisis Lifeline — call or text 988 or visit https://988lifeline.org
Australia: Lifeline — call 13 11 14 or visit https://www.lifeline.org.au
Elsewhere: https://findahelpline.com

Jan 13, 2026 • 55min
266. Is Blue Monday actually real? PLUS! Autistic Barbie, career pivots and the science of 'wintering' - This Week in Work, 13th January 2026
January blues are back — but is Blue Monday actually real?
In this episode of Truth, Lies & Work, we explore wintering, career pivots, and what behavioural science really says about mood, motivation and burnout at work during January.
If the start of the year feels heavy, flat or strangely exhausting, you’re not alone. Instead of pushing harder, this week we ask a different question: what if slowing down is the smarter response?
🔥 Stories Covered
Word of the Week: Wintering
We unpack the idea of wintering, coined by author Katherine May, which reframes winter as a period of restoration rather than something to “power through”. Drawing on coverage in The Times and insights from clinical psychologist Dr Stephanie Fitzgerald, we explore why January might not be the time for big life changes — and how seasonal rhythms, cold exposure, warm food rituals and gentler movement can help regulate mood and energy.
Links:https://www.thetimes.com/life-style/health-fitness/article/january-blues-cure-wintering-tkxhxwkskhttps://katherine-may.co.uk/winteringhttps://www.penguin.co.uk/books/472162/the-gifts-of-winter-by-fitzgerald-dr-stephanie/9780241779576
When is it really time for a career pivot?
We look at new thinking on how to tell the difference between genuine readiness for change and endless rumination. With careers becoming less predictable and many people stuck in the “Big Stay”, we explore why job-hugging is rising — and how understanding your real strengths can help you spot when fit has genuinely broken down.
Link:https://www.fastcompany.com/91462109/how-tell-time-career-pivot
Mattel launches its first autistic Barbie
Mattel has introduced its first autistic Barbie, developed with the Autistic Self Advocacy Network. Thoughtful design choices around sensory comfort, communication and representation open up a bigger conversation about inclusion, neurodiversity and what people grow up seeing as “normal” — and how that shapes expectations at work.
Links:https://corporate.mattel.com/news/barbie-introduces-the-first-autistic-barbie-doll-championing-representation-for-children-through-playhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/jamie-cygielman-7a912412/
🧠 Truth or Lie: Is Blue Monday real?
Every January, we’re told there’s a single Monday that’s the most depressing day of the year. It sounds scientific. It feels believable. But does it stand up to evidence?
We break down where Blue Monday came from, what research actually says about winter mood, money stress, Mondays and post-holiday crashes — and where the idea falls apart.
Verdict:
Blue Monday as a specific date is a lie.
January strain and winter pressure are very real.
💬 Workplace Surgery
This week we answer:
What actually works in a company culture diagnostic beyond satisfaction surveys?
How do you build a genuinely high-performance team without burning people out?
If your policies support work-life balance but staff say otherwise, what’s missing?
🎧 Coming up Thursday
A brand-new expert interview with Beth Sherman, comedian and seven-time Emmy Award-winning writer, on how humour builds trust, rapport and confident decision-making at work.
📬 Get in touch with the show
Have a question for Workplace Surgery or feedback on the episode?
LinkedIn (Show): https://www.linkedin.com/company/truthlieswork
Al Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thisisalelliott
Leanne Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meetleanne
Email: hello@truthliesandwork.com
Website: https://truthliesandwork.com/
💚 Mental wellbeing support
If you or someone you know is struggling, confidential help is available:
Samaritans (UK & Ireland): 116 123
Mind (England & Wales): 0300 102 1234
988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline (US): Call or text 988
Find A Helpline (Global): https://findahelpline.com/

Jan 8, 2026 • 51min
265. Are We in a Hope Crisis at Work? With Matt Poepsel, PhD
Matt Poepsel, a Marine veteran and organizational psychologist at The Predictive Index, dives into the 'hope crisis' affecting workplaces today. He emphasizes hope as a measurable skill, linked to performance and resilience. Discussing Snyder’s Hope Theory, he reveals how agency and pathways are vital for engagement. Leaders play a crucial role in fostering hope by setting clear, ambitious goals and practicing 'enlightened leadership', blending technology with human connection. Poepsel's insights can transform how teams navigate challenges in our modern, AI-driven world.

Jan 6, 2026 • 36min
264. How to Measure Culture Like a Business Metric - Great Mondays Radio X Truth, Lies and Work
This week, we're sharing a special feed drop from Great Mondays Radio! Our very own Chartered Occupational Psychologist, Leanne Elliott, takes the guest chair as host Josh Levine (Work Futurist, author, and culture consultant) interviews her on creating amazing workplaces.
In this candid conversation, Leanne and Josh dismantle the myths around company culture and redefine it as a strategic, business-critical system rooted in behavioral science. If you're tired of treating culture as a "nice-to-have" or a collection of perks, this episode is a must-listen for business leaders, managers, and HR professionals.
🧠 What We Cover:
A Clear Definition of Culture: Leanne shares her preferred definition of culture by John Amaechi: "The worst behaviors tolerated." This makes culture behavior-based and is a living, breathing thing that everyone can be responsible for.
The Biggest Misunderstanding: Why do business leaders mistakenly think culture is something physical (like a cool office, ping-pong table, or the general vibe around the place) rather than something psychological and scientific?
Moving Beyond Fluff: All the data and science show that building an awesome workplace is fundamentally good for business. It's great for the bottom line, customers, and growth trajectory.
The Right Data: Leanne advocates for collecting data on psychosocial risk factors (relationships, control over work, trust, resources, change management) because they are transactional elements that directly impact how people think, feel, and behave.
Innovation vs. Efficiency: An organization's strategy (e.g., chasing efficiency vs. relying on innovation) dictates which psychosocial factors to prioritize. For example, innovation requires nurturing psychological safety to allow people to make mistakes safely.
Building Internal Capability: Building internal capability for people and culture is critical for survival in the next decade due to increasing complexity and the rate of change. A C-level leader must own this responsibility.
🛠️ Practical Resources
Oblong Consultancy (Leanne Elliott's Company)
Website: https://oblonghq.com/
HSE Management Standards (UK Health and Safety Executive)
Leanne recommends this completely free resource for understanding and measuring key psychosocial risk factors at work.
Website: https://www.hse.gov.uk/stress/standards/
📬 Connect with Al & Leanne (Truth, Lies & Work)
LinkedIn (Show): https://www.linkedin.com/company/truthlieswork
Al Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thisisalelliott
Leanne Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meetleanne
Email: hello@truthliesandwork.com
Book a call: https://savvycal.com/meetleanne/chat
Podcast Website: https://truthliesandwork.com/
Connect with Josh Levine (Guest Host):
Connect with Josh Levine on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/akajoshlevine
Follow Josh on Instagram: @greatmondays_culturedesign
Great Mondays website: https://greatmondays.com
Great Mondays Radio: https://radio.greatmondays.com
Great Mondays YouTube: https://youtube.com/@GreatMondays
Get the book "Great Mondays" at greatmondays.com
💚 Mental Health Support Resources
If you or someone you know is struggling, help is available. Please reach out to one of the following confidential services:
Samaritans (UK & Ireland) - Emotional support for anyone struggling to cope, available 24/7.
Call: 116 123 (Free, 24/7)
Mind (England & Wales) - Advice and support for mental health problems.
Phone: 0300 102 1234 (Mon-Fri, 9am-6pm)
988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline (US-based) - Confidential, free, 24/7/365 support for those in crisis.
Call or Text: 988 (24/7)
Find A Helpline (Global) - Connects users to over 1,600 free and confidential support resources worldwide.
Website: https://findahelpline.com/

Jan 1, 2026 • 48min
263. The Expert Predictions for 2026 (Part 2): Hybrid work, unionisation and more of the same?
Joining the discussion are Ina Purvanova, a researcher specializing in hybrid work dynamics, and Danny Wareham, a contrarian leadership thinker. They explore the complexities of hybrid work, detailing how relationships may suffer as employees work from various locations. Ina emphasizes the need for technology to foster genuine connections, while Danny predicts that economic pressures will drive a more scientific approach to HR practices. Together, they forecast a surge in unionization as workers seek collective empowerment in an evolving job landscape.


