
What in the Word?
"What in the world does that verse mean?" This show tackles the hardest Bible verses to understand.
Each episode, host Kirk E. Miller interviews an expert guest to discuss a text in the Bible that is known to be challenging to interpret. They do in-depth Bible study and survey scholars' interpretations. By investigating the strangest and hardest Bible verses, What in the Word? gets below the surface to learn their implications for understanding God and living the Christian life.
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Latest episodes

Mar 26, 2025 • 42min
Shouldn't Jesus Know the Future? | Brandon Crowe on Mark 13:32
Brandon Crowe, a New Testament scholar at Westminster Theological Seminary, dives deep into the intriguing question of Jesus' knowledge of his return as stated in Mark 13:32. He discusses the complexities of Jesus' divine and human nature, emphasizing the theological implications of his supposed ignorance. The conversation also explores various interpretations, from historical viewpoints to contemporary perspectives, shedding light on important themes in Christology and salvation. Crowe’s insights challenge listeners to rethink their understanding of Christ's dual nature.

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Mar 19, 2025 • 56min
What Does It Mean to Take God's Name in Vain? | Carmen Imes on Exodus 20:7
Carmen Joy Imes, an Associate Professor of Old Testament at Talbot School of Theology, dives into the rich layers of Exodus 20:7 and what it truly means to take God's name in vain. She explores historical and linguistic insights, emphasizing the command's significance beyond mere speech. Imes discusses the responsibilities of the Israelite nation as representatives of God and the profound implications for contemporary believers. This fascinating conversation challenges listeners to reflect on how their actions embody God's character in daily life.

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Mar 12, 2025 • 52min
What is the Olivet Discourse Predicting? | Mark Strauss on Mark 13, Matthew 24, and Luke 21
Dr. Mark Strauss, a New Testament professor and involved in the NIV Bible translation, takes a deep dive into the Olivet Discourse. He discusses the intriguing predictions of Jesus regarding Jerusalem's destruction and his future return. The conversation covers various interpretative lenses: preterist, futurist, and others. Strauss emphasizes how Jesus's apocalyptic language encourages us to stay vigilant amid current tribulations. Listeners gain insight into how these ancient texts remain relevant to modern faith and expectations.

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Mar 6, 2025 • 38min
What Does It Mean to “Render to Caesar”? | Michael Bird on Matthew 22:21
Michael Bird, an Anglican priest and deputy principal at Ridley College, dives into the complexities of Jesus’ statement about rendering to Caesar. The discussion unpacks its historical context, exploring whether Jesus endorsed government authority or challenged it. They highlight the nuanced balance between civic duties and spiritual allegiance, revealing the revolutionary implications behind the phrase. Bird emphasizes the need for discernment in navigating faith and authority, making the topic incredibly relevant for Christians today.

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Feb 26, 2025 • 41min
What Are the Keys of the Kingdom? | Jonathan Leeman on Matthew 16:19
Jonathan Leeman, Editorial director of Nine Marks and author, joins to discuss the rich theological passage of Matthew 16:19, focusing on the 'keys of the kingdom.' He unpacks the concepts of 'binding and loosing' and contrasts interpretations from different Christian traditions, particularly Roman Catholicism and Protestantism. They explore Peter's authority and the church's role in addressing sin and maintaining accountability. Leeman emphasizes the community's responsibility in exercising ecclesiastical authority to fulfill Christ's mission.

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Feb 20, 2025 • 50min
Must Christians Submit to Government? | Kaitlyn Schiess on Romans 13:1–7
Kaitlyn Schiess, author of "The Ballot and the Bible" and a theology student at Duke Divinity School, dives deep into Romans 13, exploring the nuanced command for Christians to submit to governing authorities. She discusses various interpretations of this passage, the historical context, and the implications of civil disobedience. Schiess highlights the balance between obedience to earthly powers and the ultimate authority of Christ while encouraging thoughtful engagement with politics informed by faith.

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Feb 12, 2025 • 53min
Did God Command Genocide? | Tremper Longman on the Canaanite Conquest
Tremper Longman, a Distinguished Scholar and Professor Emeritus of Biblical Studies, joins the discussion to tackle the controversial question: Did God command genocide in the Old Testament? He navigates complex themes like divine judgment, the ethical dilemmas of warfare, and differing interpretations of scriptural texts. Longman addresses how these narratives relate to modern faith and morality, emphasizing the need for contextual understanding and thoughtful teaching on spiritual warfare as highlighted in Jesus' teachings.

Feb 6, 2025 • 53min
What Does Paul Mean by “Baptism for the Dead”? | B. J. Oropeza on 1 Corinthians 15:29
Join B. J. Oropeza, a professor of biblical studies known for his expertise on Paul's writings, as he unpacks the intriguing verse 1 Corinthians 15:29 about "baptism for the dead." They dive into various interpretations, from traditional to modern views, and explore the historical context of this perplexing phrase. Oropeza emphasizes the theological implications related to resurrection and discusses how early Christian practices inform contemporary understanding. Expect insightful interpretations that could reshape your views on this controversial scripture!

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Jan 30, 2025 • 51min
Who Are the “Sons of God” and Nephilim? | James Hamilton on Genesis 6
In this engaging discussion, Dr. James M. Hamilton Jr., a biblical theology professor and pastor, delves into Genesis 6:1–4. He unpacks the identities of the 'sons of God' and the mysterious Nephilim, exploring interpretations ranging from angelic beings to the godly line of Seth. The conversation highlights the nuances of biblical language and its implications for understanding human sin. Hamilton also emphasizes the themes of judgment and mercy as vital elements of the narrative, offering rich insights for both teaching and personal reflection.

Jan 27, 2025 • 4min
Introducing: What in the Word?
Introducing: What in the Word?— a new show doing in-depth study of the hardest Bible verses.
Join host Kirk E. Miller for “What in the Word?” as he navigates some of the Bible's toughest texts with expert guests. Whether you're a pastor, Bible teacher, or just a curious Christian, this show aims to boost your biblical understanding.
Learn how to make sense of difficult sections of Scripture, such as passages about the Nephilim, baptism for the dead, and more. Tune in weekly for insights from biblical scholars and take advantage of special offers from Logos.
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00:00 Introduction to Difficult Bible Passages
00:37 Welcome to 'What in the Word?'
00:54 The Clarity of Scripture
01:46 Understanding Tough Texts with Expert Guests
02:38 About Kirk Miller
03:46 Subscribe and Stay Tuned
Hosted by Kirk E. Miller
Produced by Matt Barrios
Edited by Glenn Allyn