The SaaS CFO

Ben Murray
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May 6, 2025 • 27min

€1.2M Pre-seed to Automate the Life Insurance Underwriting Process with AI

In this episode of The SaaS CFO Podcast, host Ben Murray welcomes Amira Nakouri, co-founder and CEO of Klaimy, to share her inspiring entrepreneurial journey. With a strong background in strategy consulting for major European insurers, Amira reveals how her drive for innovation—and a spark from the rise of generative AI—led her to launch Klaimy in Paris.  Klaimy is redefining the insurance industry by using AI to streamline the complex and time-consuming medical underwriting process. Amira explains how their technology helps insurance companies process medical records with incredible speed and accuracy, cutting decision times from days to just minutes. She also discusses the company’s go-to-market strategies, working with mid-sized MGAs, and their hybrid SaaS pricing model.  Tune in as Amira shares candid insights about building a startup team, navigating challenges with enterprise sales cycles, and raising pre-seed capital during uncertain times in Europe. Whether you’re interested in SaaS, AI, or the future of insurtech, this episode offers valuable lessons for founders and innovators alike.  Show Notes:  00:00 From Consultant to Entrepreneur in AI  05:12 Streamlining Complex Insurance Tasks  09:22 Expanding Insurance with AI-Powered Models  12:21 Startup Formation and Partnership Milestones  14:54 Small, Strategic Startup Team  17:49 "Insurance Industry Adoption Challenges"  22:46 Amsterdam Insurance Forum 2024  23:59 Targeted VC Strategy Yields Success  27:13 Explore KLAIMY.com Today  Links:  SaaS Fundraising Stories: https://www.thesaasnews.com/news/klaimy-raises-1-2m-in-pre-seed-round  Amira Nakouri’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amira-nakouri-1b729248/  Klaimy’s Website: https://www.getklaimy.com/  To learn more about Ben check out the links below:  Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe  Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page  SaaS Metrics courses here: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/  Join Ben’s SaaS community here: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/offers/ivNjwYDx/checkout  Follow Ben on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benrmurray 
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Apr 29, 2025 • 26min

$3.7M Seed Round to Bring AI Data Agents to Supply Chain Operations

In this episode of The SaaS CFO Podcast, host Ben Murray welcomes Ibrahim Ashqar, the co-founder and CEO of Lumi AI. Ibrahim shares his impressive background in data science and AI, including his time at Deloitte and the supply chain tech unicorn Stord, before diving into why he launched Lumi. The conversation highlights the challenges companies face with traditional business intelligence tools, and how Lumi is revolutionizing data access for brands, retailers, and supply chain operators through agentic workflows and conversational analytics.  Ben and Ibrahim discuss Lumi's focused go-to-market strategy, their partnerships with industry giants like Deloitte and BCG, and how they’re working with mid-market to Fortune 10 enterprises. Listeners will also hear about Lumi’s journey through fundraising, lessons learned in scaling an early-stage SaaS company, and the key product metrics that guide their growth.  Whether you’re interested in AI, enterprise analytics, or the inner workings of a fast-growing SaaS startup, this episode is packed with actionable insights and firsthand advice from the front lines of innovation.  Show Notes:   00:00 Supply Chain Analytics Software Focus  04:54 Strategic Supply Chain Planning Overview  09:13 Educational Analytics Approach Success  11:28 Consultant Challenges: Navigating Clearances  15:36 Complementary Tool, Not Replacement  18:36 Unexpected Visibility During Stealth Mode  21:34 Effective Investor Pitch Strategy  24:34 "Optimizing Intuitive AI Workflows"  Links:  SaaS Fundraising Stories: https://www.thesaasnews.com/news/lumi-ai-raises-3-7-million-in-seed-round  Ibrahim Ashqar’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ibrahimashqar/  Lumi AI’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/lumi-ai  Lumi Ai’s Website: https://www.lumi-ai.com/  To learn more about Ben check out the links below:  Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe  Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page  SaaS Metrics courses here: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/  Join Ben’s SaaS community here: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/offers/ivNjwYDx/checkout  Follow Ben on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benrmurray 
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Apr 22, 2025 • 20min

$1.7M Raised to Speed Up the In-house Legal Contract Review Process

On this episode of The SaaS CFO Podcast, host Ben Murray sits down with Gus Neate, the co-founder and CEO of Wilson AI. Gus shares his unique journey from engineering and law to entrepreneurship, explaining how his experience in top law firms and in-house legal teams inspired the creation of Wilson AI—the world’s first AI-powered paralegal. Together, they delve into how Wilson AI is helping in-house legal teams automate repetitive contract workflows, extract key terms from documents, and enable seamless legal Q&A within organizations.  Gus discusses the ideal customer profile, ROI for clients, and the tiered pricing model that powers their early traction. He also opens about their recent $1.7 million pre-seed raise, lessons learned through fundraising, and the importance of product adoption and user retention in these early stages. From data security concerns to global expansion ambitions, Gus offers insights for founders, legal ops leaders, and SaaS CFOs alike who are interested in leveraging AI to streamline their legal operations. Stay tuned for a behind-the-scenes look at scaling an early-stage SaaS company right at the intersection of law and technology.  Show  Notes:  00:00 AI Paralegal by Wilson for Contracts  06:22 Tiered Pricing Structure Insights  09:38 Targeted Content for Legal Teams  11:43 Accelerator-Driven Entrepreneurial Growth  15:01 Streamlining Customer Experience Setup  17:02 AI-Enhanced Document Analysis Tools  19:41 "Explore GetWilson AI"  Links:   SaaS Fundraising Stories: https://www.thesaasnews.com/news/wilsonai-raises-1-7-million-in-funding  Gus Neate’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gus-neate/  Wilson AI’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wilsonai-company/  Wilson AI’s Website: https://www.getwilson.ai/  To learn more about Ben check out the links below:  Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe  Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page  SaaS Metrics courses here: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/  Join Ben’s SaaS community here: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/offers/ivNjwYDx/checkout  Follow Ben on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benrmurray 
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Apr 15, 2025 • 22min

Vayu Raises $7M to Future-proof Revenue Management for B2B Companies

Welcome to another thrilling episode of The SaaS CFO Podcast on YouTube, where we unravel the latest innovations at the crossroads of finance and technology! This time, we've got Erez Agmon, the dynamic CEO and co-founder of Vayu, sharing his remarkable journey from venture capitalist to tech entrepreneur. With a decade in the startup ecosystem, Erez now turns his focus to revolutionizing the financial landscape through AI-driven solutions.  At Vayu, they're not just keeping pace with the change—they're leading it. Discover how Vayu acts as the "winds of change" for finance, as Erez puts it, automating the most complex billing and contract-to-cash processes with unprecedented ease. From AI-enhanced metering tools to real-time revenue insights, Vayu is empowering B2B companies to innovate pricing models and streamline operations without the engineering headache.  Join us as we delve into Erez's unique vision and the strategies propelling Vayu to the forefront of the fintech revolution. Whether you're a CFO looking for cutting-edge tools, a tech enthusiast, or someone fascinated by the mechanics of business finance, this episode has something for you. Stay tuned and get ready to be inspired by the future of financial technology!  Show Notes:  00:00 Vayu: Revolutionizing B2B Billing Solutions  03:39 Real-Time Contract Management Solution  06:27 B2B Pricing and Implementation Solutions  10:36 Flexible Pricing Solution Achieved  14:50 Strategic Growth Through Lessons Learned  18:52 Retention Strategies in CFO Space  20:40 Optimizing B2B Pricing with AI  Links:   SaaS Fundraising Stories: https://www.thesaasnews.com/news/vayu-raises-7-million-in-seed-round  Erez Agmon’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erez-agmon-66017012a/  Vayu’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/withvayu/  Vayu’s Website: https://www.withvayu.com/  To learn more about Ben check out the links below:  Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe  Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page  SaaS Metrics courses here: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/  Join Ben’s SaaS community here: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/offers/ivNjwYDx/checkout  Follow Ben on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benrmurray 
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Apr 8, 2025 • 23min

Zenskar Raises $7M to Simplify Billing and Rev Rec for Modern Businesses

Welcome to The SaaS CFO Podcast YouTube channel! In this episode, we're thrilled to present a conversation with Apurv Bansal, the co-founder and CEO of Zenskar. Apurv journeys us through his intriguing career path, starting from selling his first company to gaining insightful experiences at Google, which ultimately led to the inception of Zenskar. His story is a testament to how industry experience and recognizing universal pain points can catalyze groundbreaking business ideas.  Zenskar is revolutionizing the revenue automation landscape with its innovative order-to-cash platform. Apurv delves into the unique offerings of Zenskar, which handles everything from billing and collection to revenue recognition and SaaS metrics reporting. With the platform's ability to simplify complex pricing models and usage tracking, Zenskar is setting itself apart from legacy vendors, offering unparalleled value to businesses with intricate billing requirements. Apurv shares how Zenskar's solutions cater to both burgeoning startups and established companies looking to streamline their revenue operations.  Join us as we unpack Zenskar's journey of innovation and growth. We'll explore how this platform addresses the challenges of subscription management and the critical role of having an efficiently automated system in place. Apurv's insights provide actionable strategies for scaling a SaaS business, understanding the competitive landscape, and honing a successful go-to-market approach. Whether you're a SaaS enthusiast or a finance professional, this episode is sure to broaden your perspective on contemporary revenue management solutions.  Show Notes:   00:00 Second Startup Driven by Billing Gap  03:38 Pricing Complexity in B2B SaaS Models  09:51 Pricing Depends on Module and Complexity  10:53 Seamless Data Warehouse Integration  15:22 Believe and Communicate Your Advantage  18:57 Scaling and Evaluating Market Channels  20:50 Automation's Benefits Beyond Cost Savings  Links:  Apruv Bansal’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bansalapurv/  Zenskar’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/zenskar/  Zenskar’s Website: https://www.zenskar.com/  To learn more about Ben check out the links below:  Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe  Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page  SaaS Metrics courses here: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/  Join Ben’s SaaS community here: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/offers/ivNjwYDx/checkout  Follow Ben on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benrmurray 
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Mar 27, 2025 • 22min

TrueRev Helps SaaS Companies Automate Their Revenue Cycle

In this episode of The SaaS CFO Podcast, we are excited to have Ali Rizvi, the innovative CEO and founder of TrueRev, as our guest. Ali's journey from being a CPA with a solid background in finance and audit to becoming the driving force behind TrueRev, offers a wealth of insights. He draws on his extensive experience as a CFO for early-stage tech firms to highlight the persistent financial challenges SaaS companies face, ultimately leading him to develop TrueRev as a solution for subscription and revenue management issues.  TrueRev is dedicated to streamlining operations for small to medium-sized businesses dealing with recurring revenue complexities. Ali elaborates on how the platform addresses these challenges by focusing on revenue recognition, subscription management, and financial reporting, providing SaaS companies with a cohesive solution. With a mission to solve the financial chaos that arises in tech-driven companies, TrueRev aims to ensure accurate and seamless financial operations, especially for businesses lacking the resources to address these problems with existing systems or headcount.  In addition to sharing the vision behind TrueRev, Ali provides a glimpse into the strategic roadmap for growth and the essential role of clean data in financial operations. He offers valuable perspectives on the evolving landscape of subscription management and where the industry is headed. Whether you're an entrepreneur in the SaaS space or a finance professional seeking to optimize financial processes, Ali’s discussion is full of actionable insights and forward-thinking strategies. Tune in to explore how TrueRev is changing the game in SaaS financial management and what it means for your business.  Show Notes:   00:00 Revenue Recognition Challenges  05:34 Target Market: Growing Companies' Recurring Revenue  09:09 Side Project to Startup Launch  11:28 Inbound Strategy Focused on Conversion  13:32 Bootstrapping vs. VC Funding Pressure  18:49 Holistic Subscription Management Challenges  20:34 Complexity of Contract Management  23:08 "Explore TrueRev with Ali"  Links:  Ali Rizvi’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rizvial/  TrueRev’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/true-rev/  TrueRev’s Website: https://truerev.com/  To learn more about Ben check out the links below:  Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page  SaaS Metrics courses here: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/  Join Ben’s SaaS community here: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/offers/ivNjwYDx/checkout  Follow Ben on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benrmurray 
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Mar 18, 2025 • 16min

Quanscient Raises 9M to Convert Digital Designs to Digital Prototypes with Multiphysics Simulation Tech

Welcome to another thrilling episode of The SaaS CFO Podcast! Today, we have the pleasure of hosting Juha Riipi, the brilliant CEO of Quanscient. With a career that spans software development to consulting, Juha has now ventured into the realm of cutting-edge multiphysics simulations, and he’s here to share how Quanscient is changing the game. 🚀 From transforming digital designs into prototypes efficiently to offering groundbreaking solutions for industries like semiconductors and aerospace, Quanscient is truly redefining the product design workflow.  🌟 In this conversation, Juha takes us through his incredible journey, highlighting how his multifaceted background in engineering and business laid the foundation for Quanscient's success. We dive deep into the exciting world of niche markets such as nuclear fusion energy and medical ultrasound devices, where Quanscient’s innovative technology is making waves. Juha’s insights into the strategic growth of his SaaS model, his approach to deep tech investment, and his ambitions for enterprise-focused solutions make for a captivating discussion that is sure to inspire and inform. 💡  🔍 So, get ready to immerse yourself in the world of pioneering quantum computing applications and the future of industrial simulations on a global scale. This episode is packed with insights and inspiration, and it's one you won't want to miss. Hit play and join Ben Murray and Juha Riipi on this exhilarating journey of innovation and discovery. 🎧📈  Show Notes:  00:00 Advanced Multiphysics Simulation Platform  03:30 Co-Founding Quantum Computing Startup  07:45 Targeting Enterprises for Sales Growth  11:53 Expanding Investor Network Effectively  13:41 "Key SaaS Metrics and Strategies"  Links:  SaaS Fundraising Stories: https://www.thesaasnews.com/news/quanscient-secures-5-2-million-in-funding  Juha Riipi’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juhariippi/  Quanscient’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/quanscient/?originalSubdomain=fi  Quanscient’s Website: https://quanscient.com/  To learn more about Ben check out the links below:  Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe  Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page  SaaS Metrics courses here: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/  Join Ben’s SaaS community here: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/offers/ivNjwYDx/checkout  Follow Ben on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benrmurray 
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Mar 14, 2025 • 25min

Docket Raises $20M to Boost Your Growth with AI Sales Engineers

Welcome to another engaging episode of The SaaS CFO Podcast, where host Ben Murray sits down with Arjun Pillai, the visionary co-founder and CEO of Docket. Arjun takes us on a journey through his impressive 13-year career in the realms of sales tech, martech, and data tech. Having founded multiple companies and successfully exited them, Arjun offers a wealth of experience and insights that he's now channeling into his new venture, Docket. This episode is a treasure trove for anyone interested in the confluence of entrepreneurship and innovative technology.  In their conversation, Arjun and Ben delve into the nuts and bolts of Docket's pioneering product - an AI sales engineer designed to assist B2B sales teams. As Arjun highlights, this tool aims to elevate the capacity of salespeople by enabling them to efficiently handle intricate product inquiries and competitive challenges, all while drawing from the best practices within their company. The dialogue also touches on key aspects of startup funding, AI technology, and creating a robust go-to-market strategy, making it essential listening for aspiring entrepreneurs and industry leaders.  Join us as we explore Arjun's transition from a successful engineer to a seasoned entrepreneur, uncovering the lessons learned and the paths paved along the way. With Docket's promising trajectory in the AI sales landscape and Arjun's insightful perspectives, this episode promises to deliver invaluable knowledge and inspiration for listeners across the board. Tune in for a conversation that bridges innovation and strategy in the ever-evolving world of SaaS.  Show Notes:  00:00 "AI Solutions for Sales Challenges"  04:26 Streamlining Sales Through Real-Time Support  09:03 CFOs Exploring GTM AI Strategies  11:19 AI Startups: Balancing Cost and Efficiency  16:00 Early Success Driven by Strong Fundamentals  19:38 Scaling GTM: Key Sales Metrics  22:58 "Prioritize Feedback For New Features"  24:02 Connect via LinkedIn or DocketAI  Links:  SaaS Fundraising Stories: https://www.thesaasnews.com/news/docket-raises-3-million-in-funding  https://www.thesaasnews.com/news/docket-ai-raises-15-million-in-series-a  Arjun Pillai’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rarjunpillai/  Docket’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/docket-inc/  Docket’s Website: https://www.docketai.com/  To learn more about Ben check out the links below:  Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe  Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page  SaaS Metrics courses here: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/  Join Ben’s SaaS community here: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/offers/ivNjwYDx/checkout  Follow Ben on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benrmurray 
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Mar 11, 2025 • 26min

KnownWell Raises $6M to Help Service Businesses Retain and Grow Customers

In this episode of The SaaS CFO Podcast, host Ben Murray is joined once again by David DeWolf, the President and CEO of KnownWell. David, a seasoned entrepreneur and former software engineer, dives into his transition from building a successful consulting firm to founding KnownWell, a company that's making strides in the realm of commercial intelligence for professional service businesses. His passionate journey from zero to nearly $200 million in revenue, and his focus on digital product development, set the stage for this insightful conversation.  David shares updates on KnownWell's significant milestones, including their recent $4 million seed round, driven by unexpected commercial demand and market traction. With a mission to harness relationship data to empower service firms, KnownWell is making waves in the industry by offering innovative solutions that target operational challenges using AI. David's strategic approach to aligning with the right investors and the importance of cultural fit shines through as he discusses the company's ongoing growth.  Listeners will gain valuable insights into the evolving SaaS landscape as David highlights the company's roadmap toward product market fit and their focus on scaling effectively. He reveals how KnownWell is leveraging thought leadership and a dedicated podcast to generate inbound leads and strengthen customer relationships. Don't miss this episode for a deeper understanding of how David and his team are navigating the complex world of SaaS, exploring new opportunities, and striving to build a platform for the AI era.  Show Notes:   00:00 Journey from Engineer to Entrepreneur  04:47 Outsourcing Challenges in Finance  08:28 Strategic Growth and Efficiency Planning  10:57 Pioneering AI Business Solutions  13:57 Surging Commercial Demand Strains Capacity  16:35 "Cultural Fit Matters Most"  19:26 Ambitious AI Firm Launch Strategy  23:31 Strategic Roadmap for Business Success  25:50 Enjoyable Experience, Thank You  Links:   SaaS Fundraising Stories: https://www.thesaasnews.com/news/knownwell-raises-4-million-in-seed-round  David DeWolf’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ddewolf/  Knownwell’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/knownwell/  Knownwell’s Website: https://knownwell.com/  To learn more about Ben check out the links below:  Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe  Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page  SaaS Metrics courses here: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/  Join Ben’s SaaS community here: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/offers/ivNjwYDx/checkout  Follow Ben on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benrmurray 
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Mar 6, 2025 • 20min

Originality AI Helps Content Marketers Improve Content Through AI and Plagiarism Detection

In today's episode of The SaaS CFO Podcast, we sit down with Madeleine Lambert, a seasoned expert in content marketing and the innovative founder of Originality AI. With a rich history in creating SEO-driven content, Madeleine brings her expertise to the forefront by addressing the challenges and opportunities presented by the rapidly evolving world of AI in content creation. Her company, Originality AI, offers cutting-edge AI detection and content validation tools, designed specifically for content marketers and agencies looking to maintain high-quality and authenticated content.  As the content landscape continues to shift with advancements in AI, Madeleine shares valuable insights into navigating these changes, particularly in relation to SEO and Google's search algorithms. She delves into her personal journey, from founding Content Refined in 2016 to successfully exiting the business in 2022, all while staying ahead of the curve with AI-driven solutions. Listen in as she discusses the implications of AI-generated content and the strategies required to stand out in a crowded digital space.  Join us for an intriguing conversation that includes a sneak peek into Originality AI's upcoming predictive SEO feature. Discover how combining technology with human validation is key to achieving superior content marketing strategies. Whether you're exploring AI's impact on content marketing or are part of the SaaS industry, this episode promises a wealth of insights and inspiration.  Show Notes:   00:00 Content Refined: SEO to AI Transition  06:18 Google's Stance on AI Content  08:07 Google's AI-Generated Content Penalties  12:45 Detecting AI-Generated Google Reviews  14:22 Validating Platform Reviews' Challenge  17:52 Adopting Mixpanel for Department Metrics  Links:   Madeleine Lambert’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/madeleine-lambert-b6426aa9/  Originality AI’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/originality-ai/  Originality AI’s Website: https://originality.ai/  To learn more about Ben check out the links below:  Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe  Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page  SaaS Metrics courses here: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/  Join Ben’s SaaS community here: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/offers/ivNjwYDx/checkout  Follow Ben on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benrmurray 

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